Yes when we first started experimenting with synthetic ropes and recovery rings it was a constant problem for us. Having the customer lunge forward Line would come off the ring and be cutting into the soft shackle Then we have to back off and go reset it Was a giant pain
You make me miss my days of running a sling wrecker in Lakeland, FL. You can do a lot of cool things with an F-550 and a twin winch Century wrecker body.
Yeah if you are only going to use it once a month you can deal with a re-setup and be fine Wen you do it every day it starts getting annoying We started out with the cheaper ones they do work
Great vid. Just a point though a lot of tubers don't mention. If possible, try and have your anchoring point higher than the front of the winch. This gives a slight lift on the pull. If you notice the location of the ring in this example, imo it could be a little higher up the trunk.
There is a lot that goes into that. If you go higher on a tree for example to lift the stuck vehicle you are also increasing the leverage length on the tree and increasing the chance of it pulling over which we see a lot on the trail Always hook the lowest point of the tree as possible to prevent this and to prevent damage to the tree root system Secondly Hooking lower on the stuck vehicles will also create a uplift Third hooking higher on the pulling vehicle will also create uplift on stuck vehicle also while applying down pressure on pulling vehicle Making it weigh more which increases its anchor ability
@@matt.mckinzie Well yes but one would hope common sense would prevail. If your anchoring point allows, go higher than the winch. If in doubt, play safe.
When attaching the line back to the bridal (to spread she load attaching to 2 recovery points on the bull-bar), does that have to be a static bridal, or can it be stretchy? as in, a shorter 5 meter snatch rope with some stretch in it?
Short answer yes Long answer no Stretchy recovery gear are made from nylon and are a great tool in many things Like absorbing shock loads during a kinetic recovery But not recommended for static loads Like over head lifting Winch extensions Tree savers Ect The nylon will stretch And if held for a period of time it will start getting weaker and stretch more Polyester is a better options for winching applications The sling we used is a polyester round sling Also know as an endless loop And will be dramatically cheaper then a snatch rope A 6’ round sling will run $20 Where a braided kinetic bridal are $100-$250 Depending on brands Hope this helps
Fixed pulley: a pulley/carabiner that’s attached to the anchor. This pulley does not move, and serves only to change the direction of pull. It does not create MA. Moveable pulley: aka travelling or “tractor” pulley/carabiner. This is attached in some way to the load or the load strand. This pulley moves as you pull the rope. It changes the direction of pull AND creates MA.
The reason I don't have a Factor 55 Recovery ring is... I can buy 2 Badland Apex Snatch Blocks for the price of 1 Factor55 Recovery ring with F55 soft shackle.
We use many apex pulley blocks Any pulley block is going to be superior to any ring Rings have a huge performance loss due to friction But saves weight We do not care about saving weight we want what works the best over and over So where we stand is pulley block over ring everyday every time But if you prefer a ring F55 is the only one we recommend The number one issue with rings is line falling of during moments of slack F55 is the only ring that keeps the line on But we still recommend a pulley block over their ring due to friction loss Hope this helps
@@matt.mckinzie I concur fully. Weight is of no concern to me, I'm not going backpacking with snatch blocks. As far as rings or blocks flying through the air, both can kill. It's like arguing 9mm vs. 45acp. Both will put you in the hospital if you're hit by them.
@@drobs7279 from our experience Rings will have a higher chance of failure Due to friction will damage lines or shackles Also with the friction soaking up 20-50% of the power will require more winching power So increasing the probability of a winch line failure as well
Wrong. You have not tripled your pulling power. All you have done is distributed the weight over 3 lines. The same amount of pulling power is required as all of the snatch blocks are stationary redirects and offer no mechanical advantage.
@@matt.mckinzieAndy is correct. You would need 2 pulleys to double your pulling power. You only have one in your setup, so the same force from the winch is required. Maybe you need to go back to school...
