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How to use Thrawn's REAL strategies and tactics (in Empire at War)! 

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Grand Admiral Thrawn was the greatest mind in the Star Wars Universe! We look at how you can employ Thrawn's REAL strategies and tactics in Star Wars Empire at War!
Video Sections and techniques:
0:00 - Intro
0:58 - Thrawn Pincer
3:42 - Lightning Strikes
10:09 - Fleet Basics
16:03 - Ship Capturing
20:30 - Fighters and Final Thoughts
The game featured is called Empire at War: Thrawn's Revenge, and is one of the Empire at War Expanded series. It is one of the most popular Star Wars Empire at War real time strategy mod currently. Created by CoreyLoses, Thrawns Revenge is completely FREE and can easily be downloaded via the Steam Workshop. Got something to say about Thrawn's Revenge? Or Star Wars Empire at War in general? Be sure to let us know in the comments below!
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@EckhartsLadder
@EckhartsLadder 4 года назад
Hey guys, sorry for the re-upload from the second channel, I’ve had a lot going on today but I still wanted to get you guys some content that you may not have seen before. I know this isn’t what a lot of you subscribed for, so I do mean my apology, and I won’t be making a habit of this. I’ve also turned off all ads for this video, so I won’t be making any money, but you guys will have the content if you’re interested. If you want more videos like this, make sure to check out my second channel
@TheOrangeDiamond06
@TheOrangeDiamond06 4 года назад
It's cool bro
@perrytheplatypus1662
@perrytheplatypus1662 4 года назад
EckhartsLadder that’s ok😄
@zealousdoggo
@zealousdoggo 4 года назад
We cool. By the way lots of support for ekt toe
@nicholashill6314
@nicholashill6314 4 года назад
Hope you get well
@walkermorales337
@walkermorales337 4 года назад
Quick question, what were you doing with a cement block? Home improvement related stuff, or something else? Hopefully your toe gets better soon!
@IrishPhoenix7
@IrishPhoenix7 4 года назад
The attempt on his life left him scared and deformed, rip your toe man hope it heals quick
@Lexie_Tyler05
@Lexie_Tyler05 4 года назад
This is a surprise to be sure, but a very welcome one Edit: just tested this against a full power rebel fleet over Coruscant, with these tactics I lost only an Interdictor and 5 Carracks, without them I barely escaped with 2 of my 8 ISDs and everything else lost
@ckr3167
@ckr3167 4 года назад
When will this meme die lol
@kanyewest3733
@kanyewest3733 4 года назад
GENERAL KENOBI!!!
@kanyewest3733
@kanyewest3733 4 года назад
@@ckr3167 never
@ckr3167
@ckr3167 4 года назад
GENERAL GRIEVOUS lol
@euclidcasadastraphobia1640
@euclidcasadastraphobia1640 4 года назад
@@kanyewest3733 omggggg the tag team
@biscrenson7080
@biscrenson7080 4 года назад
Does this mean the person who created Thrawn is actually a military genius?
@teslo8020
@teslo8020 4 года назад
hold up...
@RukhWhitefang
@RukhWhitefang 4 года назад
Timothy Zahn.
@marrqi7wini54
@marrqi7wini54 4 года назад
I don't know if Timothy Zahn has a military background.
@stupidmonkey8057
@stupidmonkey8057 4 года назад
He wrote more then the thrawn series and all are good. He definitely knows his stuff
@squadie1
@squadie1 4 года назад
I dunno but met him in person, quite smart.
@darthrevanthedestroyer9003
@darthrevanthedestroyer9003 4 года назад
I don’t even play this game, but thank you for the help if I do
@BeregondFirstCaptain
@BeregondFirstCaptain 3 года назад
It's really fun. Time goes so fast when you play it though lol Cory loses mods and awakening of the rebellion are my favorites
@micah5918
@micah5918 3 года назад
@@BeregondFirstCaptain although Awakening of the rebellion is more for pro players.
@BeregondFirstCaptain
@BeregondFirstCaptain 3 года назад
@@micah5918 yeah I came to learn that but it's still fun and doable, I like how more realistic it is when playing the rebellion.
@G31M1
@G31M1 2 года назад
Same
@jamesp7987
@jamesp7987 4 года назад
8:42 If Thrawn is such a good tactician why did he lightspeed his entire fleet into the planet of Kuat?
@virgiljianu7166
@virgiljianu7166 2 года назад
Thrawn : My goals are beyond your understanding.
@BossMan-qi6nb
@BossMan-qi6nb 2 года назад
*hyperspace jump
@absolutezerochill2700
@absolutezerochill2700 Год назад
he was doing the Holdo maneuver before it was cool According to Disney, this makes him an even better tactician
@Name1person
@Name1person Год назад
Tom foolery
@volkan202
@volkan202 4 года назад
using interdictors to pull star destroyers out of hyperspace at a precise location is actually incredibly genius and im surprised i never thought if that after being a star wars fan for so many years, i love it
@tomastorterola7510
@tomastorterola7510 4 года назад
Sucks to hear about the toe. I’ve been there, but I’m glad to see the vids are still cool af
@julienvalley28
@julienvalley28 4 года назад
?
@KuDastardly
@KuDastardly 3 года назад
Thrawn is basically the Sun Tzu of Star Wars. >:3 _"Avoid what is strong, attack what is weak"_ _"Attack where you are unexpected"_
@batboy555
@batboy555 2 года назад
All war is deception.
@corporategunner5972
@corporategunner5972 4 года назад
#AskEck Could the Empire win the Galactic Civil War if they never had the Tarkin Doctrine?
@noda2322
@noda2322 4 года назад
Probably
@Julian-pw5mv
@Julian-pw5mv 3 года назад
Well probably, but the empire would have been far less stable. There would be small rebellions everywhere which the empire would probably defeat. But do you really want to fight your population 24/7.
@toby1061
@toby1061 3 года назад
Julian But the Rebellion would be less likely to appear since the Tarkin Doctrine is based on fear and that caused people to rise up, before the tar king doctrine the Empire was more like a Dictator running the republic and most people liked it , but without things like the Death Star, slavery would not be used to planets like Kashyyk and other slave planets would also be less likely to rebel. The empire would probably end up suing Victory IIs, Dreadnaught cruisers and Arquitens so they would definitely have a better fleet to combat rebel tactics.
@Julian-pw5mv
@Julian-pw5mv 3 года назад
@@toby1061 slavery wasnt part of the tarkin doctrine, the empire wouldnt suddenly be nice. What you are describing is what would happen if thrawn was emperor. He isn't. Slavery would still be a thing, palpatine felt slavery was an essential part of a sith empire and would be used to construct ships. Secondly people would still be oppressed by a large millitary, that wasnt part of the tarkib doctrine either, that was also palpatines idea. So I see no reason why people wouldn't rise up, just because the ships and vehicles look less scary doesnt mean people think the empire is nice. Also there was no before the tsrkin doctrine, the tarkin doctrine was adopted immediately. And most people didn't like it, most people in the core liked it, because they didnt get exploited for resources, butbwere being made richer instead.
@toby1061
@toby1061 3 года назад
Julian The Tarkin Doctrine started things like the Death Star which are the projects the Empire used slavery on. This means without the Tarkin doctrine, the Empires military doctrine wouldn’t be based around fear, before the Tarkin Doctrine, the Empire was a lot better than it was in the original trilogies, the worst they did was conquer planets, but the ones that lived under the Empire were a lot better off before the Tarkin Doctrine.
@Proiteus
@Proiteus 4 года назад
#askeck If you were a ruler of a (non-core) star system during the clone wars who would you ally yourself with? I’m Interested to hear your answer as you’ve covered both the noble aspects of the separatists and the dark side of the Republic on your channel.
@SonicArrow451
@SonicArrow451 4 года назад
Eck you should maybe consider doing a Star Wars TTRPG on the gaming channel with some of the other Star Wars RU-vidrs.
@paulsteinhauser434
@paulsteinhauser434 4 года назад
They do say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but Thrawn is more calculated than any of us.
@BierBart12
@BierBart12 Год назад
I love the fighter flying in circles at hyperspeed around 13:00(Look at the minimap, but it also ZOOPS over Eck's fleet a few times) Always love that glitch
@UGNAvalon
@UGNAvalon 4 года назад
19:24 - missed opportunity to say “hippity hoppity, that ship is now your property.”
@casbot71
@casbot71 4 года назад
With the Thrawn's pincer strategy, there should be a game mod that makes it so you have to use interdiction to be that accurate in jumps. So that players aren't getting the advantages of that tactic without putting in the effort. Basically unless interdicted, all ships come in on random vectors even if they have spotter ships
@sturmgeschutz1139
@sturmgeschutz1139 4 года назад
Damn this is awesome! I'd love to see more videos like this. I play a lot of EAW and Armada, and this will come in very useful.
@morriganlefay5438
@morriganlefay5438 Год назад
I've been trying for years to get into this game and I just kept bouncing off, I'd get overwhelmed, I'd feel like I had no idea what I was doing in ship to ship combat, and now it's finally clicked. I started using the tactics from this video in an Empire of the Hand campaign and it feels great. I sent my fleet to basically raid every world in the Eriadu system, blocked off all hyperspace routes out of the system and started building up ground forces with the production facilities I'd been building on the planet's I'd conquered from them earlier. There was nowhere they could run that I couldn't chase them down and destroy them, Thrawn just had them by the throat in this whole sector and was slowly squeezing tighter and tighter. I finally felt like an Imperial admiral executing their master plan and it's all thanks to this vid starting me down that road.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 4 года назад
#AskEck What is more usefull in Star Wars: 1)refine tactical jump technology and practices and continue using classical SW plasma "lasers" with their crazy power output; 2)switch to less developed in SW lore weapon types such as magnetic accelerators and proper beam weaponry; 3)go for highest cost in terms of both production and logistics options that combines power and damage output, but will drown your econome - dedicated proper carriers instead of battlecarriers and higher focus on ordnance like missiles and bombs? Assuming you have resources(and somehow also capability) to make any of the 3 work. But only one.
@philipchurch8772
@philipchurch8772 4 года назад
This is really cool. No one else does content like this. 🙏🥳🙏
@khattiseitap3367
@khattiseitap3367 4 года назад
You are always on the lookout for ideas for videos, or so I understand. I have a Versus idea that might be hard for you to use because there really is little art for the one side, but I thought I'd throw it out anyway. Yuuzhan Vong vs Fred Saberhagen's Berserkers.
@prizmiccc6003
@prizmiccc6003 4 года назад
The content we truly needed!!
@joshburns6101
@joshburns6101 4 года назад
Resonance is my fave song bc of you. You’re a blessing.
@cfrazier6497
@cfrazier6497 4 года назад
The way you very casually brought up shattering your toe was a bit startling
@michaelbowman2241
@michaelbowman2241 4 года назад
I’ve been liking your videos like this
@NoobNoobNews
@NoobNoobNews 4 года назад
Eckhart, be careful when handling SCPs like that cinder block. Get well soon!
@corporaliron6820
@corporaliron6820 2 месяца назад
Lightning strikes is an excellent tactic, thanks for the tip man
@HistorysRaven
@HistorysRaven Год назад
I just started playing EaW, I know I'm decades late, and am testing out different tactics. Will definitely have to try some of these. Currently enjoying building full fleets, jumping into a system, sitting at the edge of the system with my Interdictor on, and letting them come to me. I'll admit that I'm a better naval RTS player than I am army RTS.
@arandomgamer5722
@arandomgamer5722 4 года назад
Not first but I still watched the vid like everyone else
@CarlosGomez-tt4jh
@CarlosGomez-tt4jh 4 года назад
Get better, Eck! Sorry to hear about the toe! Post whatever you want, it's your channel! Gameplay is also really cool, especially since it's woven with lore
@Danspy501st
@Danspy501st 4 года назад
Didnt Thrawn make some tactics that is like what General Grievous did at the end of Clone Wars? Like jumping with a small fleet at Kuat and taking out the shipyard there and jumping on to the next system that is poorly defended
@chrisinstasis7986
@chrisinstasis7986 3 года назад
"hit and fade". Classic Star Wars, in my head. Been carrying out those missions since jumping into my first Y wing back in the 90s. Briefing "Y wings from red squadron will pop up out of hyperspace, destroy any containers and freighters. You will escape should any enemy warships arrive"
@atlas4676
@atlas4676 4 года назад
Oh im definitely gonna use this for my play through.
@SonicArrow451
@SonicArrow451 4 года назад
I love this!
@nikolasspade2700
@nikolasspade2700 4 года назад
Did like seeing the different star wars ship tactics on screen
@robindowse7893
@robindowse7893 4 года назад
I like it when you use the game to explain Canon strategies and manoeuvres and legends as I grew up with it all
@kyr_taap
@kyr_taap 4 года назад
Hey it's Star Wars related and is about one of the best strategists of the empire And I eventually started my campaign about a week ago soo.. great timing!
@noda2322
@noda2322 4 года назад
Very nice thrawn pincer
@Sasuke81a
@Sasuke81a 4 года назад
Thrawn is one of my favorite characters.
@princeofpokemon2934
@princeofpokemon2934 Год назад
I'll be sure to put all this to good use.
@Marinealver
@Marinealver 4 года назад
Sort of reminds me of the decipher CCG. Since the Deploy phase came before the battle phase and move phase happened after the battle phase it was quicker to deploy to a battle than it is to move to a battle.
@waterbottlecap5770
@waterbottlecap5770 4 года назад
i love your videos
@zebjensen4251
@zebjensen4251 Год назад
A favorite strategy of mine is getting a small fleet of ships with fighters and bombers then sending them in tqke out a few ships them retreat and rinse repeat till victory
@razortheonethelight7303
@razortheonethelight7303 4 года назад
have a good day eck! that is all.
@andhikasoehalim3170
@andhikasoehalim3170 4 года назад
@Eckharts, this is why you wear steel toed boots when you are carry something heavy or at least rotate your toes to your sides so that whatever you are holding, drops between your toes.
@beserkdonkey
@beserkdonkey 4 года назад
This is actually very helpful, I usually just drop in my heaviest ship with all my fighters and get behind my enemy then drop the rest of my fleet around them (written before the intro finished)
@diablotry5154
@diablotry5154 2 года назад
So you said the vid was helpful before you even watched it lmao
@beserkdonkey
@beserkdonkey 2 года назад
@@diablotry5154 you cannot possibly comprehend my goals
@SazParts
@SazParts 4 года назад
Can you do a video just showcasing a ton of different strategies, what fleets to use with them, when to use them, and how to use them.
@bryanm9403
@bryanm9403 4 года назад
Strategy, intellectual experience, & improvisation are the secrets to success in any aspect of your life.
@chocolad4221
@chocolad4221 4 года назад
HAPPY FATHERS DAY ECK!!
@spidermangaming6782
@spidermangaming6782 4 года назад
Saw the toe in the tweet, that sucks man. Hope you recover fast.
@gigagalabriel
@gigagalabriel 4 года назад
That's what we all have been looking for
@mcchad7722
@mcchad7722 3 года назад
Hey Eck could you cover a video on broadsides and other common sense techniques
@TheOrangeDiamond06
@TheOrangeDiamond06 4 года назад
Nice
@TheOrangeDiamond06
@TheOrangeDiamond06 4 года назад
RU-vid: No views Me: but yet I am here, and so is everyone else.
@jpq0721
@jpq0721 3 года назад
My favorite mod is EAW remake and my favorite tactic I use for that is essentially blitzkrieg, I would have massive fleets protect key planets while I take smaller fleets to lure enemy fleets away from the planets Im intending to attack. Those tactics are good with offense but I suck at defense because I leave the planets that aren’t on the frontline completely underdefended. When that happens I send 3 other fleets to 3 other planets to trick the ai into going back and defending them than I’ll send a fleet back to the planet I lost and retake it while in turn taking 2 or 3 other planets behind it
@paulnavarrete9491
@paulnavarrete9491 8 месяцев назад
new sub
@CalmLich
@CalmLich 4 года назад
satisfyed by the eaw background
@sfhgaming2814
@sfhgaming2814 4 года назад
I would like to see a video like this on ground based tactics even though star wars has a bad reputation for their ground wars.
@eater_of_garbage_
@eater_of_garbage_ Год назад
Its crazy how little land battles matter in revenge of thrawn.
@michaeljordansgrandchild8976
@michaeljordansgrandchild8976 4 года назад
Funny enough, my brother did that too, even though it was a few years ago, it was around this time. Hope you feel netter
@johngancarcik5682
@johngancarcik5682 Год назад
Thrawn was smart and used what ever he could and had to deadly effect
@user-ol9wv1fm4u
@user-ol9wv1fm4u 4 года назад
Distract, lure out, surround, destroy - thats my favorite tactic for Thrawn. It's even work with humans some times. Too bad that all ships already in battle during defences.
@monday24seven61
@monday24seven61 4 года назад
👌
@lightspeedvictory
@lightspeedvictory 4 года назад
#askeck which type of deflector shielding is a more effective form of protection: a bubble-like field that’s constantly active or when the hull is struck, sensors in the armor trigger nearby generators that trigger a transient energy field localized in the area? Video suggestion/request: X-83 Twintail vs. Tie Defender (Legends)
@thegoodfaithflowy
@thegoodfaithflowy 4 года назад
Jesus Eck stay safe!!
@thorshammer7883
@thorshammer7883 4 года назад
#AskEck *Faction Versus War* The Goa'Uld (Stargate) vs the Cylons (Battlestar Galactica).
@angelspike
@angelspike 4 года назад
Get well soon!
@marcinkonkol6184
@marcinkonkol6184 4 года назад
How did you do that at the beginning of the battle only the ships you wanted came out of hyperspace? Is there any option to choose which ships should be at the beginning of the battle and which ones to wait as reinforcements?
@matthewcartwright1345
@matthewcartwright1345 4 года назад
Hey sorry to be a pain but how do you make your battle breakdown video and the ships as well
@jackp2620
@jackp2620 4 года назад
Will you do more vids like this
@gnarlydog2304
@gnarlydog2304 4 года назад
got to wear those steel cap boots
@i.n.s.ggaming4484
@i.n.s.ggaming4484 4 года назад
Could you show what Strategies that the clones use to kill Jedi
@Tyberzan
@Tyberzan 4 года назад
Lol we got the notification squad that's here
@LegatusLucius1994
@LegatusLucius1994 4 года назад
Yes a week full of Eckhart videos uninterrupted by everyday life now his next big hurdle the trip from the computer chair to the bathroom God have mercy on him
@Tracer_Krieg
@Tracer_Krieg 4 года назад
Out of curiosity, how would one defeat Thrawn in both a battle and a campaign, both in the position of the Rebel Alliance (limited resources, but high mobility) and the New Republic (lots of resources, but low mobility)?
@charlesjohnson7458
@charlesjohnson7458 День назад
Question: If you capture an Allegiance Battlecruiser, what is the daily upkeep?
@saltykrug
@saltykrug Год назад
I always ran Lancers since they did a decent job of negating enemy fighters. Without knowing Thrawn's strat on them, I ran 1 per ISD just because it made common sense to have 1 fighter screening vessel per large ship. I'd probably put 4 on a really large SSD. They're cheap and do their job really well. Just have to make sure to have them covered from being killed by cruisers and destroyer sized vessels.
@bdculli
@bdculli 4 года назад
Beginning of the video I was about to be all like, "Hey, wait a minute! What are those Klingon birds of prey doing, lurking back there?!" They're Hapes Nova Battlecruisers. Alas for my briefly envisioned franchise crossover...
@a-man5195
@a-man5195 4 года назад
#AskEck Have you noticed that there is an active countdown for something on the Star Wars app that has no title? As of today there are a little over 780 days on the countdown. What do you think it might be?
@prodemolitionman
@prodemolitionman 4 года назад
do more empire at war vids
@ApyloSheit69
@ApyloSheit69 Год назад
See now if i could customise hardpoints i would make an anti starfighter isd to just hold an area around my and within my fleet. I took a few pages from napoleon and i make my fleet into a bunch of smaller fleets to devide and conquer. I am big on 3 pronged attacks but when i need to break through the lines i do something unorthodox i basicly make a reverse wedge with my frigates to combine and intersect my firing archs to just melt things that get too close and ill put a cruiser or 2 in that reverse wedge for asf capabilitys. I split my fighters and bombers
@jamestanner4381
@jamestanner4381 3 года назад
You are the empire of lore
@benjaminshrader2112
@benjaminshrader2112 8 месяцев назад
Long live the empire
@TomMcD71
@TomMcD71 4 года назад
OUCH hope your toe heals quickly and great video even though I haven't played Empire at War
@TheWingland
@TheWingland 4 года назад
Halo video videa What if the UNSC had never researched the spartan 2 or mjolnir programs. However one month after first contact with the covenant the UNSC INFINITY and her escort fleet of Autumn class cruisers appear at earth through a wormhole. The ships are fully operational and have manuals detailing how all ship systems, such as shielding and more advanced slipsace, operate and also how to build them for other ships. However it does not have the spartan 4s. How does this affect the human covenant war? Does humanity win or lose? #askeck
@LibertyandFreedom4
@LibertyandFreedom4 8 месяцев назад
The only faction that I have played that has boarding shuttles is when Thrawn takes over the empire. I normally play Greater Malrood but they do not have these, am I missing something???
@promnightdumpsterbaby9553
@promnightdumpsterbaby9553 9 месяцев назад
I generally win by pumping out hordes of tie defenders to support a small fleet of maybe one Imperial class,and 1 or 2 smaller SD.
@MotivatedVergil111
@MotivatedVergil111 7 месяцев назад
I made my own Thrawn strat: Use a victory class as a distraction When the enemy is distracted, have him and 4 ISD's (Or even an SSD and a few escort ISDs) spawn in behind them, and waste em. After that, work on the base
@razortheonethelight7303
@razortheonethelight7303 4 года назад
Do the stratigys work on all the mods for empire at war or just thrawns revenge mod?
@silverrain530
@silverrain530 2 года назад
All should work with minimal differences.
@averageduck2903
@averageduck2903 2 года назад
Ik I’m a year late but can u do this but for the board game Star Wars armada
@lordatom905
@lordatom905 4 года назад
#AskEck May I ask a question do you think this may maybe this is how new canon work The Empire continues for a year til the battle of Jakku were sprinted into sub factions some of them form the Imperial remanent others became warlords and other became the first order
@HelixVeritas
@HelixVeritas 4 года назад
They had us in the first half
@max-and1
@max-and1 4 года назад
Will u play eaw remake mod in the future?
@jaxkommish
@jaxkommish 7 месяцев назад
According to Ashoka, one of his best tactics is sending two TIE fighters against his primary threat
@gargillaape5292
@gargillaape5292 4 года назад
Lol I use the helpful ones when playing new republic cause it’s really hard to use them early game
@DigiPen92
@DigiPen92 4 года назад
#AskEck I was wondering about the topic about "The Force Dictates whoever wins or loses". What do you think if one of the new Directors for a Star Wars movie introduced a new Force Power that Reprograms "Force Dictates the Balance Who Wins or Loses" that was been discovered by a new character who isn't from the Jedi Order, the Darkside Villain managed to crack it open and used it on a protagonist or someone like Rey for example? (Like have the villain used that force power and reprogramming the factors into dictating Rey is going to lose every battle she fought when she's a Jedi Master after the fall of the First Order happened) By the way, I hope your toe gets better soon.
@philipchurch8772
@philipchurch8772 4 года назад
I think that’s what Palpatine did in the late Republic era. The Jedi felt that the dark side was in ascendancy and their powers were diminishing. I think a big part of how effective that was had to do with tricking the Jedi into being complicit in their own fall, like the immoral use of slave clones for the war.
@DigiPen92
@DigiPen92 4 года назад
Philip Church I don't think Palpatine used that similar force powers that reprogramming dictating the Jedi to lose. Palpatine was manipulating the entire Republic so that the time has come to use the mind chips on the clones to activate Order 66 to kill the Jedi Order since that was his plan to gain an Empire.
@Earthstar_Review
@Earthstar_Review Год назад
This seems like a really fun game, but I've been severely spoiled for good battle chatter.
@adrianaslund8605
@adrianaslund8605 2 года назад
The space combat was the coolest part of this game.
@MonkeiKing
@MonkeiKing 3 года назад
Oh that's nice a very nice idea indeed. Been watching the breakdowns for playing games like stellaris and the such.
@OverlordZephyros
@OverlordZephyros 4 года назад
By any chance you play star wars ARMADA?? Those tactics also apply 👍
@Marinealver
@Marinealver 4 года назад
Never pick your oponenants hyperspace assault.
@elisekehle8520
@elisekehle8520 4 года назад
where do you get your EaW mods, and are they compatible with GoG?
@diablotry5154
@diablotry5154 2 года назад
Steam workshop
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