How to use torque wrench for beginners

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I wanted to show people how to use a torque wrench this video will help the absolute beginners.
I needed a torque wrench for working on my sons truck, I didn't realize how expensive a nice digital torque wrench can be. I ended up like most people forking out 20 bucks on a basic inch-lb wrench and stared haplessly at the numbers on the handle with no clue how it worked.
Then spent the next 30+ minutes getting confused by the instructions and what I found on the internet. There are a ton of review type videos out there and there are as many different types of torque wrenches as there are bolts to turn.
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@knownbutunknown 2 года назад

Oh this was great! A basic understanding of math-inches-feet are needed for sure. There are 12 inches in a foot. For example, my Honda spark plugs need to be torqued at 156. On my torque wrench, the lowest number closest to 156 is 120. So I stop there. Then I turn the graduation to 3 which means 3 times 12 is 36. I add the base number which was 120 plus 36 equals 156. I hope this helps.

@mest1589 8 лет назад

Video starts at 4:10

@marsflee3815 6 лет назад

It still sounds like rocket-science to me.

@MyNiki1998 6 лет назад

mest1589 mvp

@cadimac8379 5 лет назад

Thanx

@Justentime77 5 лет назад

You got that right! Endless yammering about nothing...

@bufalong 5 лет назад

Saved my life

@durv13 7 лет назад

had to crack up when you said we only dont read instruction when were not interested in the job they want us to do ... lol sooo true . thanx for the video man . good stuff

@jameskoralewski1006 2 года назад

One of the most important things to remember, when using a torque wrench, is to return all settings to zero on the handle setting of your wrench or it might go out of calibration having constant spring pressure inside the torque wrench mechanism. Also, many torque wrenches only recommend using it in the tightening direction only and not in the loosening direction.

@sgtstedanko7186 Год назад

They torque both left and right hand thread, but must not be used as a breaker bar

@Scott-fv1nt Год назад

Great info thanks!

@markmelendez1029 5 лет назад

He must be a Digital torque wrench sales man. After this clip that what I'm buying.

@bryanmurrayvideo2513 5 лет назад

LMFAO! You got that right. All the videos make me want to get the digital ones and never again think of these!

@carolinarider5237 4 года назад

😁👍

@torchtube5621 4 года назад

Lmao

@joshuavermillion1311 4 месяца назад

Bro I didn't understand anything

@daveredcay7066 Месяц назад

You didn't even show us using it

@WarrenWilliams 7 лет назад

I've owned a TR for 25 years (Proto 6066A) and never had a manual or instruction. Your video was very helpful and spoke directly in a language understood by the torque challenged. Well done, thank you, and BRAVO!

@aviatortrucker6198 4 года назад

When you store a torque wrench, back it out all the way below the lowest setting. This will reduce spring pressure and keep the wrench accuracy from going out of tolerance.

@muddyhotdog4103 3 года назад

I dunno, the owners manual on both of mine say to set *at* the lowest setting when storing, but *not* to go below the lowest setting like you said when storing

@dadthelad 3 года назад

@@muddyhotdog4103 I'm guessing that's the "zero", and you're both right. As there is no actual zero, but my instructions say the same thing.

@muddyhotdog4103 3 года назад

@@dadthelad possibly indeed

@404notfound..... 2 года назад

The lowest setting like 20 lbs not 0

@d-forceone3327 2 года назад

Nice!, very informative the way you "Laid it Out" for a Intermediate wrench turner. ✊ Props Brah!

@anthonymorales6980 8 месяцев назад

Yeesss!! Thank you, i have the exact tourch wrench and you answered all my questions.

@82godoy 5 лет назад

Makes sense. 12 inches = 1 foot. Each turn of the knob from 1 -10 equals 12 inch pounds.

@isaiahborba8927 24 дня назад

Yes the lowest default torque ft lbs is 10 lbs

@maryr.4381 8 лет назад

Thank you so much. You helped me tremendously. I bought a torque wrench very very similar to this one tonite & the instructions lacked a lot of information that would've made things a lot clearer. That's what YOU did for me......and I thank you ever so gratefully. Now I am able to torque my lawn mower blades down where the maintenance book says to have them torqued. It appears I also need to torque my spark plug in as well after checking it out. Just in FYI: I am a 64 year old woman who is tired of paying someone over $100 to service my mower yearly........it ain't rocket science. Thank you again for helping me out.

@PaulFosterrebuilds 8 лет назад

+Mary R. thanks for the feedback, I did this video a while back when like yourself I had just bought a torque wrench and was confused by how to set it. I'm glad that this video helped you.

@MarzNet256 7 лет назад

Hey Paul. Several other things to be aware of: These wrenches need to be calibrated periodically to be accurate. Some machine shops can check and adjust calibration if necessary. They are most accurate in the middle of their range. Never use it to loosen bolts. Dropping it can throw the calibration way off. Finally, most specs are for clean (rust free) non-greased threads, but sometimes apply to using grease for the correct spec. Torquing bolts is really about getting them to the correct tension.

@jeremydouglas8492 4 года назад

It was calibrated before it left the factory

@gregbolte6532 7 лет назад

Just bought this exact same torque wrench yesterday and after reading the instructions I was like, "what the hell?" lol Thanks for deciphering the cryptic instructions! I think I get it now : )

@PaulFosterrebuilds 7 лет назад

Hey no problem Greg. I'm glad it helped you.

@STOICREJECT 5 лет назад

Greg Bolte glad to learn the hard way first😂 I’ll get digital next. Helps to learn manual

@dggd 6 лет назад

Thank you Paul for your clear, concise instructions which covers a broad range of the fundamentals in understanding these tools (foot lbs., inch lbs. etc.) I for one am very appreciative of your time and humble efforts in sharing this vital information, as I attain knowledge on doing a few repairs/replacements on my car. Sometimes the basics are all we beginners need to get the job done. I really needed this. Thanks again!

@sissonsk 6 лет назад

Thank you for this video. I have a torque wrench like this and I lost the manual. I figured that each mark on the "knurled" handle = 120 inch pounds. Your video varified this and I thank you.

@scalderafy 9 лет назад

Well done and a huge thanks because I was lost when I got mine home and started reading it as well. Big Thanks!

@brianmcdonald4914 7 лет назад

Thanks for the help man, I bought a cheap torque wrench just like this and I have used one before but never actually set it. Helpful!

@jasonmckeaigg9143 4 года назад

Work your way up on torque don't go straight to specified torque...while storing torque wrench zero it out to keep in calibration..good vid👍

@TopShelfTactical 6 лет назад

You just saved me!! I bout the same dang wrench and needed it to be set to 140 in-lbs and after watching countless videos on RU-vid that did NOT mention the marks were adding 12 in-lbs per mark..... I finally found your video!!

@Bowns7774 5 лет назад

the numbers do not add 12 in lbs. Go retorque because he made you do it wrong. Inch lbs on the bar and the 2 on the handle means 2 not 24 in lbs.

@rapsnik 4 года назад

Thank you Paul, 42 foot pounds is just the setting I needed to put my lawnmower blade back on.

@yourstruly9340 7 лет назад

I didn't realize my chart was in inches & I was about to do ft. lbs. just went out & got a new "inch lb wrench. Thx again

@fomoco1454 8 лет назад

Great video and accurate. Inch pounds are used when the torque specs are lower than 15 ft pounds usually. This is why you have a smaller leverage wrench than the larger ft pound torque wrench.

@Bagger808 7 лет назад

Thanks for the vid, bought a torque wrench for the new boat prop and it stumped us!

@danielmagdziarz7440 5 лет назад

What are you guys talking about? This is a great video. I just bought that very same torque wrench and the instruction was kind of confusing because the vertical scale measures in inch pounds whereas the horizontal scale measures in foot pounds. It turns out there are 12 inch-pounds in 1 foot pound, which is how he achieved 504 inch pounds by adjusting the wrench. This made me understand how to use this $20 at AutoZone wrench which is exactly what I needed. Great video! Thank you for taking time to explain this, record the video, edit the video, and upload the video. It accomplished exactly what it was meant to accomplish in only 8 minutes and it helped many, such as myself.

@c4turtz 9 лет назад

Thanks Paul. I'm a trainee technician at a oil and gas company this really helped me out man. Keep it up!

@PaulFosterrebuilds 9 лет назад

Darreem Lindsay happy to help.

@pixotee2007 7 лет назад

I bought the same wrench and (life is weird man) I am working on a 91 Chevy S10.. I really hate this wrench, it is hard to see, hard to adjust. The video was excellent, I now know how to use this thing. Does seem that one of those digital models are worth the money to have easy of mind you get the torque del balls spot on. Thanks for the lesson...appreciated.

@mb1636 5 лет назад

Its just coincident that I bought exactly same torque in-lb wrench. I am so happy that I can follow your lead. I cannot follow the graduation till u said its ft-lbs..nice ! Thnx a lot !! It helped me !

@SWALLER740 2 года назад

I truly appreciate the clarity you added to this topic. Well done and concise. Thank you.

@coog7896 7 лет назад

I am a novice when it comes to dealing with auto mechanics and I will need to use one in order to install some new Shocks and Struts on my pick up. This helped me to be better understand what I need to do, Thanks!

@jameskoralewski1006 2 года назад

There are only 10 digits on the graduatiion scale 0-9.99. You want 504 inch pounds ( once you convert it to inch pounds only deal with inch pounds). When you go to 480 inch pounds on the engraved scale, you only can increase that 10 digits to 490 inch pounds. So you will have to go up one scale on the engraved left and then turn your graduation scale so that the scale and the graduation add up to the 504 that you desire. If it still does not total to 504 inch pounds, then go up one more scale on the engraved right and add your graduation scale to reach the 504 total that you seek.

@jesseladd6864 3 года назад

I have this wrench. Every number on the handle (which goes as high as 9) is a multiple of 12 for inch pounds. The guide on the shaft is total inch/pounds of force. Example: I zero the handle to match up with the centerline on the shaft to match the 360 inch/lb indication. Then I can twist to 3 on the handle. 3x12 = 36 and add that to the original 360 inch/lb. I’m at approximately 396 inch/lb of torque. I then lock the twist ring at the bottom and I tighten my bolt or what ever. And reset to lowest setting and unlock to relieve stress on mechanism. Hope this helped. It has a range of 120-960 in/lbs

@mendoblendo321 10 месяцев назад

So what would 14 foot pounds be? 14x12?

@beekeeper6063 7 лет назад

Nice video, plain and simple...easy to understand. Please keep it up !

@Aboxorox1 2 года назад

Thanks much ! Not a mechanic but mechanically inclined. My wallet does not support a mechanic, so I have to take a swing myself. Its been 30yrs since I've had to use a torque wrench that was not a needle gauge. Asked three people that I would call a mechani . All three gave me the shoulder shrug about figuring out the setting of this very torque wrench. I popped up RU-vid and here you are, again thanks for your time and efforts.

@teamja1088 7 месяцев назад

I have been a mechanic for over 30 years and up until today I never used an in-lb torque wrench. On a 7.3 HPOP there are two bolts that need to be set to 18lb-ft. Normally anything below 50 lb-ft I just use my 3/8 ratchet and german torque (gudentight), but as this is a very important part for the 7.3's longevity and function I wanted to torque it according to the Ford / International diesel spec. None of my torque wrenches go lower than 50 lb-ft (because usually I work on large machines that require 50-250lbft). I picked up a GreatNeck MATW1 in-lb torque wrench from a friend, who never used an in-lb wrench either so neither one of us knew what incriments the graduations were indicating, and neither of us ever understood algebra or any advanced math so we were unable to decipher the incriments. I thank you for explaining the handle graduations were in lb-ft, which allowed me to achieve the 216 in-lb setting to equal the 18 lb-ft I needed for this job. Thank you for making this tutorial!

@thomasvernor8427 Год назад

thankyouverymuch ! Saved my valuable time. Just needed to know how to dial it in & you went right to it.

@alexejnemov 4 года назад

Jusst make sure to ajust it back to 0 after use this is inportant.. Even tho it's a cheap wrench, take good care of it and with your use probably last you manny manny years, you will need to calibrate it and you can buy a digital calibration unit for cheap. This unit can also convert a standard ratchet to a digital torqe wrench, but I jusst use them as a calibration unit. Sending in your wrench for calibration gets expensive in the long run. I may reccomend AC Delco for calibration becouse it has a peak setting and if using it as a torqe wrench it has a sound alarm when correct torqe is gained.

@christophermercer1220 7 лет назад

Thank you very much for this video as it was helpful and did eventually show me how to use and understand my torque wrench and i greatly appreciate that. The video was however frustrating to watch with you taking the wrench out of view so much. But because you did actually help me understand it better, i gave you a like! thank you very much for this video.

@jferrer1973 5 лет назад

I bought this same wrench, but the instructions were entirely missing. You saved me a ton of time. Many thanks.

@dosequzla 4 года назад

Besides the dizziness inducing movements due to your trouble focusing the camera on the tool I think you did a great job at explaining what made me return my torque wrench. I also got a lot of misleading information from mechanics about the use of this tool and some of them even admitted they don't even use it (for some jobs i guess) so after reading the very bad manual from the Chinese manufacturer I gave up and just returned the darn thing. I just found out that the job I did on my Montero 4x4 engine has to be redone due to some other peaces that will have to be replaced I figure it would be now a better time to order one of these but I will just buy an American made tool instead of ordering from Amazon.

@enkadino 9 лет назад

Thanks for the video. It was very helpful. The detail is good for people like me who are trying to learn a torque wrench for the first time. It may have been TMI for some but for me it was just what I needed.

@PaulFosterrebuilds 9 лет назад

Jane, thanks for the feedback I'm glad the video helped. I've had some requests about how to test the torque wrench and make sure its working as expected. That is a How to video that i'm planning to make in the near future between my bigger production video's.

@lestatbeyer7475 3 года назад

this makes perfect sense thanks for the help

@roadrat1100 5 лет назад

Thanks so much this really helped me.

@marcusrodriquez705 3 года назад

Thank you very much for your time and info, You made my day.

@choochooman 5 лет назад

Thank you it helped lots, plus I have the same tool, I wasn't sure of the marks and you took care of that for me as well.

@spyderjosh 4 года назад

thanks for the explanation. I also own this archaic tool. I needed to get 8NM which is approx 70 inch lbs but this wrench doesn't seem to support torques that low.

@javiercacao7475 5 лет назад

wow thank you so much. Good research and explanation. So once it's set, what's the amount of force you use say if you need to adjust something under the car? Do you go twice 180 degrees turns ? once?

@stevegunn7697 9 лет назад

Hey Paul don't get disillusioned by people's comments. Trust me you cannot make everyone happy (even in your own family) so don't expect certification from strangers. Even if one person has been helped by your video, you have accomplished the task that you have set out to do. The world is a cruel place because people are always unhappy about something but remain positive and keep helping. We need people like you. God bless.

@PaulFosterrebuilds 9 лет назад

Steve Gunn hey thanks for the feedback, over the last 10 months I've learned a lot from this channel, early on I decided that I wanted my detractors to be heard. At times its not fun and I think my wife takes them more personal than I do. but its viewers like yourself that keep me going. As I like to say your entertainment is my education.

@sterlinghousewashpressurew9594 5 лет назад

Dude thank you. I've had that same wrench for 2 years and never new how to set it.

@TheNoobComment 2 года назад

Up and down are inch ilbs. Left and right are ft pds so the line on 1 is #+12inch lbs(1=12ft lbs) So if you go to 2 it would be #+24(2ft lbs). Yeah at first I thought a line means 10 or 20 inch lbs.

@santoorzan1 6 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge on the TRQ wrench. I learned enough to operate my trq wrench. 🙏🙏👍👍

@juliof2930 8 лет назад

Interesting wrench. Mine actually has foot pound not inches pound imprinted on it but it looks just like that one but bigger. I used it for the first time today on my motorcycle as part of adjusting the chain.

@GerardoZuniga 6 лет назад

Never use torque wrench, this video had showed me what I was looking for. Thank you.

@grahamwoolley1606 7 лет назад

Paul, you cant please everyone. But I want to say you do get what you pay for. Did it come with a calibration certificate. ? a cheap one like that is probably at best +/-10% accuracy, an average click type torque wrench is +/-3% and the digital +/-1%. I wouldn't use the one you have on any engine I was working on. A torque wrench should be calibrated every 12 months or more depending on use. However in your case that would cost more than the wrench, about $35.00. I think you provided any newbies with a little input. kudos to you for trying ignor the jerks.

@anthonymontes1671 6 лет назад

thanks for the Video and walk through very informative and i just happen to have the same trq wrench in your video now i can torque my oil pan with ease of mind.. :)

@davidbreen4353 Месяц назад

absolutely outstanding!! got one, never knew how to use it. this video really, really helped!!

@lexsumiify 7 месяцев назад

This was great! I just bought a torque wrench similar to this and had no idea how to use one. This video saved me hours on trying to figure it out on my own. Thanks!

@PaulFosterrebuilds 7 месяцев назад

Glad it helped 😀

@luisjandres1626 3 года назад

Thank you for being so detailed in the meaning of the those words

@Gmacc187 Год назад

Hey brother I appreciate the effort and research you put in this video. I know you saved me a whole extra headache. Thank You.

@thomascook4655 Год назад

I'm 60 years old, I've been working on car since I was 14. I want to share my knowledge with you. If you are working on a vehicle and you have a fastener to torque down,you want to buy a torque wrench in the mid-range of what you were torque a fastener to. Example lug nuts normally most vehicles a hundred foot pounds. Use a half inch drive torque wrench with a range between 50 and 250 ft lb . If you trying to torque down a fastener that requires 30 ft lb. You would use a 3/8 drive torque wrench with a range between 10 and 80 foot pounds. I know these tools are expensive but to work on a car you need at least three different torque wrenches. Some other things to point out always store the torque wrench at the lowest torque setting. When using the torque wrench hold it at the handle and turn the fastener and you stop as soon as the torque wrench clicks or gives.

@jefftitterington7600 2 года назад

Thank you!It makes sense. I hadn't known about inch pounds, and I'm just learning to use a torque wrench.

@armandocastillo7974 4 года назад

Just say it brother. It’s Harbor Freight. No shame in it.

@alexanderbhartley5549 2 года назад

This is helpful. Thank you.

@TuXLOfficial 2 года назад

This video made perfect sense thank you for this 🔥🔥🔥

@cisium1184 3 года назад

Very straightforward and helpful explanation!

@mc0974 5 лет назад

Thank you! I bought one similar last year and never used...

@sethdominickortiz 3 года назад

That’s a good example for a exact method, thanks a bunch again

@ihunt65 3 года назад

very informative. finally, I get it!

@dirtyhornswoggle1861 2 года назад

Thanks man I got this one. Totally understandable now

@juandiegoparra8889 8 лет назад

Great video! Makes a lot more sense when you used an example, I was confused by what the numbers meant on the handle!

@PaulFosterrebuilds 8 лет назад

+Juan Diego Parra Thanks for your comment. I take a fair amount of grief about this video but it was really intended for people who like me bought their first torque. :)

@MrOzzyosborne88 5 лет назад

Great video. Thanks

@fredericksaunders3829 4 года назад

Thanx for the info helped alot

@josechavez5950 6 лет назад

PAUL FOSTER THANKS FOR THE GREAT DETAILED TUTORIAL. I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE STEP BY STEP APPROACH...

@New2Kendo 6 лет назад

Thanks for posting this video I bought a similar torque wrench I inch pounds, and I either missed the part in the instructions that says the dial is in ft pounds, or I wansnt paying attention. I needed 150 inch pounds, and when I turned to 150 it lined up with 230, it makes more sense now. I will try it again using ft pounds on the dial

@slickjed4988 Год назад

thanks brother that happened to be the exact same one I got exact same instructions I was a little confused before but I got it now I couldn't find anything that had on inch pounds on a torque wrench everybody was doing videos on foot pounds thanks again

@Sieg670 6 лет назад

Video is longer than it needs to be but you did clear up my confusion so thanks. I got the exact same wrench and I couldn't figure out how they got 504 by setting it to two. This is my first time messing with one so I was clueless.

@MrCeora 2 года назад

Great, helpful instructions!

@pa1264 5 лет назад

Awesome video thank you

@tunerlifestyle 7 лет назад

I was confused at first but you helped. Thank you

@Warhorse469 8 лет назад

the old school torque wrench are the best imo, I would not go digital unless i really had to and 99% of the time i don't need to, great video mate.

@PaulFosterrebuilds 8 лет назад

+Uteopia happy to help man

@hughhaynie4848 8 лет назад

Thank you Paul. You made it clear.

@PaulFosterrebuilds 8 лет назад

your welcome.

@lifefollows8267 4 года назад

Makes sense now, thank you

@DeeperSpiritualSign 11 месяцев назад

You are the man !!!! Thank you !!!

@davidwilson-pl4iv 9 лет назад

i have to say man i had just bought this wrench today and said let me see how to tell ft from ins. and look what i found, i just loved it when you said and you had just one question ,and i said thats all i had, see i needed one and saw the price, great exept for one thing it was a girl and she asked if i wanted ft or in lbs, the cheap one was inches and so i had to take it but didn't want to ask her the difference, so now here i am wondering how will i find out and the first video i find is you,Wow I Thank you so muchkeep it up the ones who realy do need you.

@PaulFosterrebuilds 9 лет назад

david wilson thanks for the feedback man, much appreciated.

@smeach 3 года назад

Thank you! Now I understand!!

@genogeno1234 7 лет назад

Good video, I now understand. Wish the focus would have been more consistent, but you handled it well. Thanks for posting

@Eric_412 4 года назад

If you think this is a good video than you must be his mum, one of the most frustrating videos on RU-vid

@bryanthunders2046 5 лет назад

I have one without the screw knob at the very bottom still seems to work, is it usable and accurate still?

@johnykryll 2 года назад

Very useful, thanks

@es49er 6 лет назад

same question answered - you saved me 30 min or more in just 8 - thank brutha!

@TheHumanSpirit 6 лет назад

Thank you. The video was helpful. Funny too bc I purchased this same wrench not too long ago and had many of the same thoughts/questions you present here (e.g. What the hell is "knurled?"). As for some of the thankless brats with their bad energy in the comments section, I say this: If you didn't take the time, or if you're unwilling to take the time to learn this on your own - no worry - but then don't be so impatient with someone who did, and who was decent enough to share free of charge. 8 minutes is nothing.

@PaulFosterrebuilds 6 лет назад

Thanks for the feedback, this video was one of those where I had no idea what I was doing and once I figured it out I decided to share what I learned. I figured there were others like myself who were going to scratch their heads on how to use this tool.

@jaysmoov4ever 3 года назад

Thank you!! Finally I understand this damn thing!!

@robertstonebreaker8394 6 лет назад

Good info thanks

@jacspring7729 4 года назад

Thank you - I have the same kind and had no clue... and it just kind of snaps when you reach the ft lbs - was thinking it would ratchet but it just bumps once when you’re there... mine is made in Taiwan and came from an auto parts store - I misplaced the directions

@joaquinmateo4142 4 года назад

This video made it clear and understand able

@pospc2 4 года назад

I own and use both types of torque wrenchs. The digital is for sure more idot proof but you get used to the cheap click type fairly quickly. I use the digital mostly for engine work and click type for lug nuts and brake/suspension hardware. Also not sure how I ended up on this video. I was watching a tool review and now I am in torque wrench 101.

@therealjetli8328 6 лет назад

I'm a brand new RU-vid mechanic just did my own brakes and I over torqued the dang bolt and snapped it in my caliper now I am becoming an expert on bolt extraction hahaha now I know where I went wrong!

@therealjetli8328 6 лет назад

Thank you

@jacobseraphin685 Год назад

I love how the paper told him that 1 foot equals 12 inches 😂😂😂 imma be honest this is my first time hearing inch pounds so I wouldn’t know about this either, I learned something new today

@davidshears1449 3 года назад

Great video👍

@marcoforozco 4 года назад

dud thank you so much... just bought one and didn't know how to use... great explanation... thanks...

@timzzz9963 9 лет назад

really appreciate this since I bought one of these to make sure I get my spark plugs in correctly, same issue, inch pounds instead of foot pounds

@PaulFosterrebuilds 9 лет назад

Thanks for the feedback Tim, probably the dumbest I felt was win I tried to figure out how many inch pounds were in a foot pound lol. I'm glad it was useful.

@timzzz9963 9 лет назад

yeah it seems so obvious now lol

@sethdominickortiz 3 года назад

Saving time thanks bro

@mareerogers7663 Год назад

I have a off and on wrench the foot pound was 87 I could only find it on 2-4 and 10-12 on brakes and lug nuts so I give it two turns if I can breaker bar this off so for my 87 with 2-4 it took 5 then just before torque I stopped to six clicks it on super