How to win with the Dora in DCS 

I remember playing European Air War and the radio call would come over saying "Long--nosed 190s" when a Dora was spotted. Good times.

Greg hitting us with a double whammy of DCS is unexpected, but not unwelcome

My dad had this old game called European Air War from Microprose and it was probably my favorite video game to play as a kid. You could fly a lot of different airplanes on the German side or the British/American side. I didn't speak English at the time but I generally understood the German part so I'd always play the German side. The Fw190D was my favorite plane to use.

Outstanding video as always. I have trialed the Dora twice the second time was after watching your previous DCS Dora vids, and I have to give you credit because it made a sizable difference. The Dora is the only WWII Warbird I want but do not own, currently available in the DCS sim. I have great respect for that airframe and the sim pilots that are deadly when flying the D9. I made a comment about it was a cabbage crate but that was in good fun to help my wounded ego after once again falling prey to yet another D9. Also thank you for the shout out to myself and my RU-vid channel but more importantly thank you for mentioning the Wolf Pack U.S. Dynamic Base Capture Normandy server. Our visitors and soon to follow regulars come by the droves every time you mention it. And if I may add a big ole Texas thank you to GR00VYJERRY for creating the mission and Palerider37 and his team for hosting and maintaining the server. I hope to see you there again soon.

Fantastic showcase of of the Dora, almost certainly historically accurate. Was a pleasure to watch fully in its entirety.

The candy cane bottom paint on the dora is savage looking

And again I agree with all statements, especially about high speed climb - Dora has more drag compared to Mustang, but they have close max speeds, meanwhile Dora has better power/weight ratio and it accelerates much faster above 400-450km/h, where P-51 starts slowly approach it's maximum speed. Just a few people mentioned this useful detail.

I have read and watched endlessly on how to dog fight and even had a few very good sim fighter pilot try to teach me directly , but suspect I am missing the part of the brain that is for aerial combat. The Dora is probably my favorite plane to get shot down in though. It has the balance of characteristics that appeal to my sense of what makes a good late war fighter.

I'm not one for dogfight sims however with Greg in the cockpit, I'm boarding this flight!

Id love to see you do more of these gameplay videos. you can breakdown your movements and thought processes so well.

I have a huge crush on this aircraft when flying PvP in either IL2 or DCS. This thing is a monster when flown right, with the high speed climb being the jewel in her crown - most people don't realize how tactically significant being able to gain separation AND altitude from almost anything really is. It resets fights, allows her to solo if your SA is good, and gives you plenty of downhill in a pinch to use her incredible high speed roll and pitch advantages if the bandit really wants to party.

Greg, appreciate your work . Over seas and, destitute and unable to contribute now. I wanted to just throw this out there. The D9 was always called the "downstairs Dora by it's pilots, for exactly the reasons you explained.I mentioned that decades ago in a flight sim and was shut down . But the thing I know I read in my first edition of " le Grande Circque " (?) By Pierre Clostermann in his Tempest, was getting shot down late in the war by what who was post war later ID'd as a German Ace named " Dortmund", in a D 9, In the un abridged non US version. TheTempest, like the D 9 was designated a "tactical fighter. " The Tempests had the perfomance at medium and low level to be given those tasks. Many of CLostermann's late war andecotes are a direct mirror of that tactical fighter role and the D9's were his bane. But 9 out of ten a D 9 was in the hands of a flegdeling, D 9's lost more pilots to landings and take offs than to enemy action . The story as translated from French in CLostermann's unabridged "Le Grande Cirque" as I can remember reading my copy, Dortmund and another D 9 had blown thru them and took out two, of the flight, CLostermann went vertical up after him, His fellow pilots gave him the works after he got home ,for after his radio calls. "I've got him,.......I've got him,"..... then Clostermann ran out of airspeed and ideas.The D9 did at the same time, biding his time, and fell down upon him, lined up and fired ,and Clostermann took to his chute :) The D( then took the time to "buzz" his chute . Allegedly Hans_Dortenmann, If I have the language spelling right, had about 33 kills on the Western Front and lived to the end of the war. But then my favorite was CLostermann in a his Tempest, beset by abou 6 F190 D9 with glowing exhausts, and Clostermann," For the first time I put the throttle thru the breaking wire,and left them panting . It's a great book, but try to get the unabridged version, not the US pirinted one. The man had anti war, anti US feelings. Mainly becuase he saw a coastal Normandy French city get ravaged and carpet bombed in the prelude to D Day. Later in our time he voiced his admiration for the Argentinian pilot's courage during the 1982 Falklands War. The kicker about WW2 I like to understand is the Tempests were tasked with low - med level Tactical missions in the NW . Yeager for example in a P51D shot down a number of D'9's flown by kids at 20'000 feet. It's never so much the airplane as the tactical situation and the training of that fellow we put there. Apologize in advance for typing errors, having a few brown outs here and with the typhoon passing didn't help

Love Greg teaching us about planes through DCS!

I'm glad you've made this. The Fw-190 is a big favorite of mine but I get demoralized about it.

Great job Greg, a pleasure to watch your business like approach to fighting the Dora. It’s always been my favorite German fighter especially after watching your series on the 190. I for one would like to see more of this. You and the “valued presenters” at Grim Reaper are my favorite aviation channel but they don’t have any Alfa/Fiat content.

Awesome stuff Greg! .... the quality of your content is second to none! .... respect and many thanks!

Sir Archibald McIndoe was the plastic surgeon who improved the treatment and rehabilitation of badly burned aircrew. He was a New Zealander.

I dont even have DCS but i still enjoy these videos.

I’ve never wanted to watch a simulated dogfight video. The only way I’ll watch one again is if Greg is the author…

The dora is my absolute favorite axis plane in il2.

The Eiffel superintendant called. Said someone just buzzed his tower at over 400 klicks per hour, and he spilled his coffee. He was rather livid about it. Also French.

Watched the whole thing. I really enjoyed this. It would be cool to see the same thing with other aircraft in DCS, but I understand the time requirements would be extensive.

To Gregg: I dearly love your videos. It was eye opening about the P47 range "issue". The p51 mustang was not needed was not the savior of the skies. The p47 was a whale of an airplane. The nuclear Lancaster video was also eye opening.

Got to see a Dora-9 for the first time at the USAF Museum today! Figured I'd fact check your alleged lack of P-39 memorial and sure enough, while they have an Airacobra in the museum I didn't see anything outside.

Good Morning! What a great surprise! One of the rare channels on this platform that can make a video over one hour long, and completely hold my attention. Educational and entertaining. Thanks again Greg!

I get some of my best DCS training from your vids.

Really good guidance, speed is life and especially so for the FW190D9

The Guinea pig club as they called them selves, we're the badly burnt patients of pioneering New Zealand surgeon working in the UK . Archives McIndoe he was invited by older cousin who had also pioneered burn treatment but during the Great War after the naval battle of Jutland.

Greg would not last long in a real dogfight (he thinks way too much. that is what Boffins do)...however I am sure he is a terror in computer games. Love all his great videos.

Hi Greg, will have an eye on the Doras on this server, maybe I will see you there. I also fly there sometimes. Guess your name in DCS is also Greg? Personally I had most success with the Bf109. Also recently in one sortie I shot down two low flying Mosquitos and a Spitfire with the Fw190A8 and made it home. Was a bit surprised I survived that. Doing Blitz-Attacks really helped. Best regards, Paddy

I haven't played a flight sim in over a year, always felt a bit overwhelmed by them, and never did multiplayer except in non-sims like War Thunder. And yet I just killed an hour watching this video before I knew what had happened. Great presentation and narration job!

Oh I think I aquired some new knowledge that I might be able to use when playing War Thunder planes :3

Thanks for insight! Great kills!

Great video, as always :)

52:21 He brought a dog to a dog fight! :)

Great and informative video. Thanks Greg Your videos are very exceptional. You are a TopGun course in Dogfighting. Please keep up the great work.

I used to fly the Bf109 in a simulator. It was a great energy fighter and had a good turn rate. Climbing faster meant that you could engage and disengage at will: 1. Find target. 2. Boom and zoom. 3. Success.

There are a lot of great youtubers doing DCS content, but Greg's videos are a level above... great work!

Wow ! Very enjoyable to watch

Imma just an old gumshoe who brings his broom to the streets of the Big Boss Basin (L.A.) so I'll share: When Greg introduced me to the crimes of Bomber Command I felt a deep rage welling up. My dad learned to drink surreptitiously over a Norden bombsight so I've got that "we're all gonna die" thing going for 70 years. Can Do! The deeper I fell into the egos and mustauches the madder I got and I let it go except for YT comments to stupid WWII mythology. Someone write that book, please. So I let the Bomber Command case go and I did not realize that I had inadvertently amassed enormous research strategies. I felt like frikkin Ike. Pre-dawn in the dark morning I'm applying Bomber Command strategies to songwriting. Ya never know. I learned to respectfully poke a bunch of little fuzzy ol' bears which really brings on an interesting lot. My mind is utilizing WWII imagery to interpret strategic theoreoms. WWII Warbirds, yet another infinity. After the Sabre'n'MiGs I stopped caring.

Hi Greg. Excellent video! I'm flying the Dora for quite a while now in DCS, but only now I'm able to exploid the aircraft to it's full extend. I usually fly on the 4YA WW2 server, where some of the best WW2 Sim pilots out there come together. You really have to master an airframe to utilize its full strength to get the edge there. Maybe you'll have a look around, would be a pleasure. 👍 Just in addition: as I can remember, one of the Devs stated in a Forum that the Dora has the best energy retention of all WW2 aircrafts in DCS which makes it the ultimate BnZ aircraft.

very informative, superb video

Really enjoy your video's!!!! Rock on!!!!

Actually a great presentation.

Great stuff Greg....👌

"You're a hunter, not looking for a fair fight" This is exactly how I fly the P-47 in IL-2.

Muy bueno! Lo tengo en la lista de deseados esperando la rebaja!😂😂😂 gracias por todo!!! 💪🏻😃

Excellent flying, and an excellent explanation of how we can do likewise. Thanks for the video, and hope you make similar videos for other aircraft!

Great video, thanks. There is a solution to the “low 6 “ attack. It’s called a wingman! Don’t fly solo and you will be fine. Either your wingman will protect you or he will be shot down giving you time to get out. Win-win 👍🏻

Another superb video, thanks Greg. As to the red and pinstripe underside - I dimly remember reading that some Dora squadrons were stationed on or near 262 bases, specifically to provide top cover for 262s on their terribly long and vulnerable approaches and finals. Since the 262's flew their approaches between lines of flak emplacements, any German escorts were at risk, and the 190 was supposed to look a bit like a P51 - hence the red and stripe ventral paintjob.

I greatly appreciate your DCS videos. Well I greatly appreciate all your videos but the DCS videos are information that I can apply and enjoy whereas most of your technical breakdowns of aircraft go way over my head. Which is not to say I don't watch every one of them. I did a trial for the Dora and was about ready to say it's not worth my money because I I could not get the performance out of it that I expected. I just recently got into the warbirds after mainly flying f-16s and I find that I'm spending most of my time in World War II servers now because while it does take a very long time there's something very satisfying about all that you need to account for. I realize that I'm mainly operating weapon systems in the modern jets versus flying the aircraft and managing its engine. Plus having to find your targets both in the air and the ground by eyeball has made me a better pilot in the jets as well. Thank you for all that efforts you put into this channel

Air Attack, Fighter Ace, Aces High, DCS 😎

The plastic surgeon is Archie Mcindoe the father of modern burns treatment .

Superb video.

Exciting video, enjoyed it immensely. But you take your dog for a flight in the Dora? 😛(LOL)

Fantastic video with tons of useful information. Personally I can't understand those people who criticise use of zoom and padlock functions in sims... for me these capabilities are there to compensate for the limitations that are unavoidable with a sim. Similarly I don't understand people who don't appreciate realistic and effective tactics!

Cabbage crate is probably a reference to the Monty Python 'RAF Banter' sketch. What ho, Squiffy...

Thank-You!

Greg I don't even play in DCS, but if I did I would seek you out over Normandy in my Hawker Tempest, fly over your base and cast a gauntlet down, challenging you a one on one combat. No quarter would be asked, and no quarter would be given! 😀

Cabbage Crates? I thought from that Monty Python ep, it mean German Aircraft (Cabbage = sauerkraut so Krauts; Crate was common slang for your 'mount')--but of course I MIGHT be totally wrong. .

Thank you

I just got it. On sale for 25$ lol. I actually had to do the startup training. I couldn't find the switches that are hiding up in the corners of your Instrument panel

"cabbage crates" is a monty python reference from the "woody and tinny words sketch," part of which poked fun at wwii RAF slang. so it just means german aircraft. with some imagination the pythons maybe were referring to sauerkraut. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--gwXJsWHupg.html ah that in itself was a reference to a sketch earlier that episode, the RAF banter sketch. horrible quality here (theres better off youtube.) they also mention "sausage squad up the blue end" so the sauerkraut thing might be the right angle. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kv1fRrD-68M.html

I really need to get into WW2 DCS I am mostly learning modules for cold war atm such as the A4 and Mirage F1, big fan of the Anton and Dora I simply must find the time...

1 hour long video and I'm here for it

That first P-51 was clearly a kill steal.

Can you add an inset of the basic controls to show your speed, etc? Great video!!

Just bought Fw-190D9 on last sale. Like this bird so much for its speed, cockpit visibility and climb rate as well as armament. My DCS Warbird fleet is quite big: Spit IX, P-51D, Bf-109k4 and now Fw-190D9 too. I skipped P-47 as I am going to skip F6f too. Waiting for Corsair. I love fast warbirds and Boom and Zoom tactics.

Ive always had issues flying the dora. Hopefully this helps me fly the wonderful plane.

That was very interesting and a lot of fun. Looks like I'm going to have to get back into sims. Thanks a lot. No...I"m serious...thanks.

Very nice and informative video Greg!! Thanks for posting, it'll be quite interesting to point at this video every time somebody says it's impossible to combat in the Dora 🤣. A detail I'd like to comment about. I see, besides other management you perform like Revi and so, don't you manage fuel also? I mean, apparently it's historical pilots emptied the rear fuel tank first in order to get a better AoA and add some nimbleness to the aircraft. In DCS it can definitely be felt how once your rear fuel tank is empty the aircraft is quite more responsive and sneaky (not sure that's the word I'm looking for but). Have you tried it? Maybe you don't like how handling becomes that way? I'd like to know your opinion about that, if you've tried and all of course.

the whole family of FW190 was very dangerous... they did call them the "butcher bird" for a good reason...

This situation @55:45 with ASI could be due to blocked pitot line due to damage or ice. ASI measures difference between total (dynamic + static) and static pressure and at altitude static pressure is lesser than at ground level. If you have blocked pitot tube, with rising static pressure from static port you are getting lesser and lesser difference between these two and therefore smaller ASI indication i.e. your ASI becomes altimeter.

Love your vid I’m just exploring axis aircraft, particularly the 109. Will give the Dora a go, what I’ve learned about your videos is to have patience over the target area. P.S, it’s pronounced ‘The Sane River’ not ‘Sign’.

Thanks

Greg, Sir: Everytime you bust a horrible dusty stupid WWII myth I go all over YT shooting my comments back. You get me into a lot of trouble and I can only imagine the feedback you get, I'm sure it takes 1.3 seconds to spot the discards. I report the crimes of Bomber Command in an articulate and respectful way (for example I don't use certain words like "crimes") and hoo-boy does the fur fly. I talk about the dissing of the P-47 (going with the positive stats) and pow-pow-pow the 20 mils open up. I type about the "Mossie load same as B-17" and why it's not true and fuel load and yadda...and you'd think I had assassinated the King. You, Sir, have my respect.

Terrific. I see now how my retirement is shaping up....

That's really interesting. I'm just getting into DCS and 4th gen fighters are more my thing, but this is super cool.

Any of you guys remember playing Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe as a kid?

Great stuff! An hour well spent. Although the French needs a little work. So, in the spirit of 'One good turn deserves another': 'Seine'. Sign? Nah! More like 'Senn'. You're welcome and thanks.

Flying through the tower saved your reputation after not going through the arch.😌 No forked tail devil?🧐 I bet you could fly it to great effect Greg.

Hi Greg, Somehow, lonewolf style is not so inaccurate for D9. I beleive you read the Big Show and there, P.Clostermann is very specific on how he met a lone D9 and lost his two wingmens to it and then failed to chase him.

Came here from Growling Sidewinder.

56:30 I’ve gotten icing on the pitot tube icing on the 109 before. Could be that??? Would make sense for how it was acting, but doesn’t look like you were near any clouds and it should have been plenty warm down low

Cabage crate LOL Greg that's probably more a reference to it being German> sauerkraut> cabbage than it is about a produce crate.

It's my understanding only four Dora's got this red paint/white stripes, a local variation.

The problem is in most servers German planes have no MW50 and it makes them not very competitive against allies.

The only reason i don't like the dora as much as the others is because of the sound, it really needs an update on it's sound

Hi Greg, I really like your videos, they bring a lot of information. However, DCS is not 100% faithful, I believe that the D-9 is very weakened by the data available on the internet. In DCS, the P-51 is faster than the D-9 at any altitude without needing to use WEP. The P-51 climbs more than the D-9 at any altitude too. The D-9 only wins in descent. Another thing I noticed was that the WEP of the P-51 lasts much longer than 5min. I would like you to do these tests too and confirm if I am correct.

global illumination? no shadows at end! good advice!!

I think the reason why they always detect you when you come from low six is that both P51 and P47 has a tail warning radar. So it probably goes off and they break.

I am not a flyer on simulators, but have flown RC planes lol. What about flying inverted to take a look back to your low 6 if you know you are being stalked? Like the guy that called your plane a cabbage crate, what if he would have flown inverted to check his low 6 from time to time, is that a valid maneuver?

49:50 How do you even get information like that? Did you figure it out yourself playing or it is on some kind of manual for given aircraft? Very informative and fun to watch, videos of yours :) Your analytical commentary makes me think of real pilots flying for their lives in real planes.

Hey Greg, I never heard of detailed g limits on aircraft armaments. Do you have sources for that, I am highly interested. Of course I heard that cannons could jam under excessive Gs, but were there limits listed in the pilots manuals? Best regards

hi Greg! may I pose a technical question? why ever is lead used in engines, even we know that methanol and ethanol also prevent knocking. I ask, because the downwind regionns of airports still have messurable amount of lead in the enviroment. so there should be a technical reason.

How are you able to look at a speck on the horizon and tell what model of fighter it is? Very impressive

When you say "the Dora is not a high altitude fighter" I'm assuming this is specific to the D-9? I am under the impression that the D-11 and D-12 variants are specifically designed to upgrade high altitude intercept performance (even if this was not practical given the late war circumstances).

Just got my pc setup and have been playing with dora for a long time now it's one of my favourite aircraft, so where are u playing DCS multi player? finding it hard to find any ww2 arena's

Does the gyro gunsight altitude adjustment actually work now ? it never used to

If this is the cautious, careful hunter - what airplane is the straight-in lunatic brawler?