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How to wire the Honeywell fan and limit switch for the gas or oil furnace 

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@PBS-nm1uu
@PBS-nm1uu Год назад
please do more like this, thanks this is what new techs need
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman Год назад
I have several videos on this switch. You can start here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jg0nK4QLpZo.html You can also put in the search engine on my channel: "Honeywell fan and limit" GFM
@simongarfunkel4040
@simongarfunkel4040 3 года назад
thank you for posting this. your switch schematic was a helpful starting point to troubleshoot my furnace. My problem was an open stranded conductor connecting the line side, and a blown 25v transformer.
@thrux900ful
@thrux900ful 3 года назад
I know a lot of people probably have no exposure to old furnaces, but I can’t help but be amazed that there’s people that would have questions on one of these fan limits
@boby115
@boby115 3 года назад
Great video and I also would like to give you a little history on this fan limit control. This fan limit control is the reason why engineers in the HVAC manufacturing industry designed the secondary ECO one time use limit. We found this fan limit control to have devastating failures throughout the United States. At times the heat sensing spring would lockup ( caused by rust and A coil drain pan leaks) causing the fan to never come on or limit to open. So as you can imagine many houses burnt down and people lost their lives. So my suggestion is if you ever replace one of these fan limit controls an a ECO limit is not in place, add one . Also note this fan limit control comes in two sizes short and long ( make sure you know the one that is required). Also I wanted to correct you I believe you misspoke,you said this mounts inside the heat exchanger , it does not ( it mounts to the furnace cabinet sensing heat from the outside of the heat exchanger). Great video and keep them coming. Y'all stay safe out there.
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 3 года назад
I have not heard of the rust problem. Good to know. I never argue with someone that wants to add an additional safety device. GFM
@boby115
@boby115 3 года назад
@@grayfurnaceman , I am sure you have seen the ECO thermal link safeties they added on in the 80s . I was a first responder / service technician for the gas utility in St Louis, Missouri & got that emergency call quite a few times ( luckily 99% of the time we would catch it early before anything happened). Hopefully by now most of those furnaces have been replaced.
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 3 года назад
@@boby115 I have. By now, it should be a non issue, as you have said, all these furnaces are 30+ years old. GFM
@shellyblanchard5788
@shellyblanchard5788 Год назад
It was probably no one knew they were in there and they weren't told about it. 😒
@spudth
@spudth Год назад
Very helpful. I'm replacing mine on my 1965 model furnace. As usual, the new one is a little different....
@ralphbrewster3241
@ralphbrewster3241 3 года назад
My burners would come on and run for 1.5min then shut off, then after cooling for 30 sec it would run again. Turned out the coil in this limit was worn and the system would think it was hotter than it was. Replaced and fixed issue . Only realized I had this issue after installing a WiFi nest thermostat.
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 3 года назад
Glad you got it going. GFM
@Jon-hx7pe
@Jon-hx7pe 4 года назад
the jumper helps let the magic smoke out of the 24v system - that smoke, all bottled up in there somehow.
@watermanone7567
@watermanone7567 4 года назад
Very good commentary, could you please show people what they use on today's models.
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 4 года назад
In newer furnaces, the fan is controlled by timers that are part of the control board. GFM
@manjindersihota142
@manjindersihota142 3 года назад
well explained, thanks
@philiprizek6384
@philiprizek6384 3 года назад
I never knew those came with a pre-hear and I absolutely think I know the application for which it would require one but I only have a sample size of one I had to replace fan limit switch just like that on a 90% furnace I did have to make some adjustments with the fan on and off temperature so the blower would stay running
@luisman007
@luisman007 3 года назад
Thanks, my system uses the yellow wire for the pre heater. I bought a new limiter, but it does not have the connector for this wire, and I couldn't find any videos on what to do in this situation. Thanks.
@markstuut4024
@markstuut4024 2 года назад
Thanks
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 4 года назад
only seen a few with the preheater over the years, seems to me it was mainly on the oldest "high efficiency" units. which nobody around here went for :)
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 4 года назад
It was one of the first things furnaces did to increase efficiency. Did not help much. GFM
@seek3n
@seek3n 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for the video. Just wanna clarify, based on what you shown. The left side would be 120v hot, and the right is 120v hot to the transformer if there is a jumper. If there's no jumper, then the left side is 120v hot, and the right side is a 24v. And each side has 3 connection points. Correct? Thank you
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 11 месяцев назад
You got it. GFM
@seek3n
@seek3n 11 месяцев назад
@grayfurnaceman thank you Sir! Your the man! I appreciate all your contents long time subscriber. 😁
@philiprizek6384
@philiprizek6384 3 года назад
The fan limit switches that I was told never go bad as long as they get a little lube on them look like a Glass ball with mercury in I seriously hope my carpenter friend never puts 120 on the 24 volt side of a furnace ever again
@qussayali3401
@qussayali3401 3 года назад
The same limit switch i have melted down 3 times ...the second time we even replaced the blower motor..any ideas please
@driving-riding-wrenching1278
@driving-riding-wrenching1278 2 года назад
I have an old gas furnace (from the 70s I believe) that just has a combination gas valve with a non adjustable fan switch attached. The fan seems to take a long time to turn on after the burners are lit and I feel like I'm wasting heat. Is it possible to update to an adjustable fan switch?
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 2 года назад
If the original fan switch probe length equals 5, 8, or 11 inch, you can replace it with the switch in this video, just using the one that equals your probe length. GFM
@RC-Heli835
@RC-Heli835 8 месяцев назад
Do you power 24V from the W terminal?
@stevel.1554
@stevel.1554 3 года назад
So when you say to isolate the two wires that go under the dial, do you mean to leave them disconnected and tape the ends? The furnace will still work this way? Thanks for any help.
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 3 года назад
Yes, tape the ends so they do not touch. GFM
@Venezia1110
@Venezia1110 2 года назад
Thanks for your awesome vids! So grateful, you already saved my life, but wonder if you can also tell me if I can simply replace my F&L that has no manual button with one that does have that? I just want to obtain ability to very occasionally turn the fan on when pilot is off and without running heat. Mine is Honeywell, jumper pulled off, four wires in the fat holes, no preheater. If I change it out for one with the manual button, is it safe to assume I just use the same four wires and don't need an extra relay? I believe this gas furnace is a 1973 Whirlpool. (Model FXB47-150ER, serial H33721358). I've seen some say you can simply add a standard light switch or a toggle switch between R and G terminals, which would be even better for me (though I think I want to replace the F&L anyway, it functions correctly, but the face is too corroded to read). I didn't try the switch between R and G, though, because I saw some saying you must add a relay to do that, and I don't know how to find the right relay or exactly where it goes in a switch set up like that. In my furnace, the bar of terminals is along side the "fan center" and has two-screws each at G, C, R, W, Y, X. Wiring diagram shows G could have been wired to T-Stat, but I've only got a double wire to R & W, and too tricky a route for me to pull a new wire. Wiring diagram also shows a "spot relay" on that missing G-to-T-Stat wire, though. I'm not clear whether that is already handled inside the relay box of the fan center. I see only one wire on one of the G terminals, and that goes directly into that relay box area. Thanks a million!!
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 2 года назад
I would try jumping R to G on the terminal strip. If the fan comes on, you may place the light switch in the circuit. If not, the Honeywell fan and limit with the manual switch is available. GFM
@jareddeaver4058
@jareddeaver4058 2 года назад
Hey man, some of the guys at work are shown your videos to help with their training. I still watch them from time to time. I’m out of the Shenandoah valley in Virginia. Anyways, I’m somewhat decent with control wiring. If you don’t mind could you look up this model#-bc-44a8-fa-nlc. It is a fan timer control used on an oil furnace. It gives the user the ability to let the fan control both the oil heat and an air conditioner. In my setup, there is no ac. My fan is not cutting on once the burner fires therefore locking it out. Due to not having ac, and the replacement part being around $400 dollars, im wondering if I could wire this style you have in video in place of that control box style?
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 2 года назад
You can certainly wire it in. It would have to be mounted in place of the limit switch and would be used as both a limit and fan control. The probe length would have to be checked before installation to eliminate interference with the heat exchanger. The lengths are 5", 8" and 11". GFM
@CommonSenseFishing209
@CommonSenseFishing209 3 года назад
They removed the old 5 wire. Only make 4 wire. American standard package units are next to impossible to replace because you get back voltage that turns on a.c and also if you use the wrong one Robert shaw vs Honeywell it won't work. Also requires peanut relays to change them out.
@evandegray6688
@evandegray6688 10 месяцев назад
Seems as you’re replying, have a buddy’s whose furnace I just swapped, has a newer Honeywell limit switch, the blower motor runs constantly even with thermostat disconnected, any suggestions
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 10 месяцев назад
If the switch has a white button on its face, it may be in the on position. If the button is ok, the switch is stuck on and should be replaced. GFM
@performancerdllc2585
@performancerdllc2585 3 года назад
I want to run 2 fans from this thermal control. Can i just jump a second wire in? will it take the extra amps/load?
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 3 года назад
It will work ok, as long as you do not exceed the rated amp draw printed on the switch. GFM
@edwinmays8480
@edwinmays8480 2 года назад
I've replaced mine set temperature settings as you suggested still getting short cycles. Any suggestions where or what to check next ?
@Geo-vg3xu
@Geo-vg3xu 3 года назад
Is there an upgrade to the old style limit switch?.
@I88-4-88I
@I88-4-88I 4 года назад
Interesting.... I know this is off topic but could you give your opinion on hvac damper motor adjustment or replacement , problems or any other info
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 4 года назад
A bit more complicated than a response in the comments section. GFM
@I88-4-88I
@I88-4-88I 4 года назад
@@grayfurnaceman and remember..... Honey well is always better than honey pot....😥
@taimeinstone1955
@taimeinstone1955 11 месяцев назад
I just want to know how to change it
@brandonbrowning3155
@brandonbrowning3155 3 года назад
Thanks for this video! I have questions on gas fireplaces if you can answer them. I’ve been servicing gas fireplaces and finding dang near every the thermopile on opening circuit only generating 130-150mv and close circuit drop down 50-80mv. Most of the pilot assembly’s are 3ways with pilot, spark rod, thermopile and thermocouple. How is the fireplaces still operating on such low mv? Is this normal or does the thermopiles need to be replace. I’ve tested new thermopile right out of the box and only generate 250mv. Please educate me, I’d really appreciate it, and do right for the customers.
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 3 года назад
I can't say I have seen that. The 500 mv number is seldom true as the instructions say but not that low. GFM
@ronaldfilion
@ronaldfilion 3 года назад
I think I've broken my furnace. I did not remove the jumper wire and when I pushed in the knob to manual, something somewhere clicked and now I have no blower. I see now that the one I replaced had the jumper wire broken off. Is there anything I can do?
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 3 года назад
If you heard a click, check for a breaker. It will be a button that has popped out. Could be on the transformer or near or on control board. GFM
@ronaldfilion
@ronaldfilion 3 года назад
@@grayfurnaceman Wow thanks for the quick reply. It's what I thought but I can't see one anywhere. I'll take a closer look.
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 3 года назад
@@ronaldfilion If you give me a make and model or send a pic to Grayfurnaceman@gmail.com I may be able to help. GFM
@davidmaynard4167
@davidmaynard4167 3 года назад
Hey can you tell me how to properly wire an A19 low temp cut off thermostat so my heat pump doesn't run all winter?
@justinmoore1194
@justinmoore1194 Год назад
What the replacement for this?
@esourteric412
@esourteric412 Год назад
Well how do I get the wires out of the thing?
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman Год назад
Its a secret. Only qualified service techs can know that. lol The rectangular slot above the wire connector is for a small screw driver to be pushed into to release the wire. When reinstalling, again insert the screwdriver in the slot and then push in the wire. GFM
@pleappleappleap
@pleappleappleap Год назад
What is the modern setup, if these aren't used anymore?
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman Год назад
They are available as a repair part. GFM
@pleappleappleap
@pleappleappleap Год назад
@@grayfurnaceman That's not what I'm asking. How do more modern furnaces accomplish this? What kind of device do they use?
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman Год назад
@@pleappleappleap They use timers. Fixed on delay, adjustable off delay. All controlled by the control board. GFM
@jeredmattson9
@jeredmattson9 3 года назад
so my round dial sticks sometimes. if you bump it after a while it will often kick on because it gets stuck. is there something i can do or does it need to be replaced? any maintenance to it?
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 3 года назад
Replace it. GFM
@jeredmattson9
@jeredmattson9 3 года назад
grayfurnaceman i did and now it works great. thank you!
@mateorivera433
@mateorivera433 4 года назад
Hello, I looked at the video you made in 2013 ... I want to ask you where I can buy a gas valve for this heater ... this is the mo heater model. make ArcoAIR model GDI075A012CIN MODEL L943259605
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 4 года назад
The valve is a White Rodgers 36E97201. GFM
@mateorivera433
@mateorivera433 4 года назад
@@grayfurnaceman Thank you for the info...Do you know where I can buy it
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 4 года назад
@@mateorivera433 I don't have any trusted sources, but there are many websites and also a local HVAC dealer can get it. GFM
@jlimg5215
@jlimg5215 Год назад
can this switch be adjustable?
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman Год назад
These videos may help: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QpHfFdk04u0.html GFM
@marksayre1358
@marksayre1358 10 месяцев назад
😅😊😊hi , I'm wondering how the bearing functions . Is bronze stationary in bearing it's self and shaft rotates in bronze piece or is bronze tight on shaft and turns in eating . Maybe you can explain it better . Thank you
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 10 месяцев назад
The bronze bearing is pressed into the end bell of the motor and the shaft rotates against the bronze. GFM
@marksayre1358
@marksayre1358 10 месяцев назад
@@grayfurnaceman Hi , I got some new bearings . They seem very dry , no lube . Do they have oil or grease inside or do you oil them or soak them . Your opinion will be appreciated , thank you .
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman 10 месяцев назад
If they are sintered bronze, oil is provided in the package. GFM@@marksayre1358
@marksayre1358
@marksayre1358 10 месяцев назад
@@grayfurnaceman All there was were the rubber sleeves and sintered bearings. If you could explain what needs to be done , I could dig it . Thanks
@marksayre1358
@marksayre1358 10 месяцев назад
Hi , I've looked all over for a blower wheel , 11"d x 8"w x 3/4" bore , convex doubleinlet . You have any idea who might carry such a beast ?
@DaveWS
@DaveWS 3 года назад
Mr. Grayfurnaceman, I need some information if your able to help. I have an issue that just started with my furance with the limit switch. My burners come on and after about 3-5 seconds later, I get a bang/pop that comes from limit switch. Could the bi-metal spring have a sticking point right when heat hits it and it starts to turn? Even though it makes the sound, it still works correctly. Thanks for any help you can provide.
@jn2898
@jn2898 Год назад
cant find any videos that actually show how to do it
@bradcranley7059
@bradcranley7059 Год назад
Can I wire a switch to make the fan run on manual if needed I gave a psg wood and oil combo ?
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman Год назад
Some of the fan switches have a white button that will turn on the fan manually. GFM
@bradcranley7059
@bradcranley7059 Год назад
@@grayfurnaceman yes mine has that but it broke off and wondering if it's possible to just put a manual switch on
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman Год назад
@@bradcranley7059 You can place across the fan terminals that are marked on the switch. GFM
@bradcranley7059
@bradcranley7059 Год назад
@@grayfurnaceman and hook that to a switch for manual ?
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman Год назад
You got it. GFM
@Slicer1475
@Slicer1475 Год назад
not a very helpful video at all. didn't even show any physical wiring of the switch. just pointing and saying how to hook it up doesn't really help anyone who needs help or anyone who is new to doing this kind of stuff.
@grayfurnaceman
@grayfurnaceman Год назад
There is a playlist on fan switches that may help: ru-vid.com/group/PLItXrh64d2JOatkfw8W6WLm5jUw_tdp6D GFM
@Slicer1475
@Slicer1475 Год назад
@@grayfurnaceman thank you. I just guessed because the new control was different from the old one. I lost both heat sources last night in my wood and oil furnace. So I was frustrated and trying to get the easier or the two running. But I got it; the wood furnace, going. Working on the oil furnace fan motor replacement now. Thank you again for replying.
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