How Tunable is the New Fiesta ST Mk8? (Stage 1 MaxD Remap Review)

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As much as I hate to, I do quite like the Ford Fiesta ST, even the new downsized 3-pot. But, in the quest for improved economy, have Ford reduced the car's tuning potential?
Apparently, no.
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@alex98uk 4 года назад

I do love my modified mk7 I use for track stuff, but I can't help but be a bit jealous about the racket that 3 pot exhaust makes!

@greathey1234 4 года назад

James reminds me of Jason of series 1 of top gear. Extremely knowledgeable guy with real passion for cars.

@bst857 4 года назад

And he sounds sort of like Chris Goffey from early top gear :D ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3Y-Gdz6N-dU.html

@Tanuki974 3 года назад

He reminds me the guy from Man vs Food.

@juhojalonen3046 3 года назад

@@Tanuki974 Food had no chance.

@bensmithkent22 3 года назад

Jason dawe and rik wallers love child. Jokes aside im a subscriber.

@koulisole5903 4 года назад

20 years old from greece here. i have mine mapped in revo and putted an airflter as well.i believe that i cant be more happier with my car !!

@purplefabian 4 года назад

Lucky you

@mixaliskirkiotis3254 3 года назад

Kostos sto peripou gia to stage 1 tis revo comple?

@koulisole5903 3 года назад

@@mixaliskirkiotis3254 450 ειχα δωσει αν δεν κανω λαθος

@ciaranburke3243 3 года назад

What a fabulous all rounder, that little 3 cylinder makes a fantastic noise, sounds like a v6, nice looking also 👌

@archiebarber9802 4 года назад

Just found your channel, great review Very articulate

@JayEmmOnCars 4 года назад

Thankyou very much

@beaulunawolf1198 4 года назад

I've owned the previous gen Fiesta ST and now I have an 18 Focus ST. Both are extremely fun cars to drive. If you happen to see a Ford rep over in the UK tell them they really are stupid for denying the new versions of these cars to their US enthusiasts.

@bmwman1981 4 года назад

Beau LunaWolf Americans get all the good fords ie f150 Petrol and v6 edge all we get is poxy diesels edge and not even offered any of the real American ford range

@doddsalfa 11 месяцев назад

@@bmwman1981focus st and rs is German

@OBELISK3210 6 дней назад

There’s no market in America for hot hatches. Pointless

@andrewmaple9863 4 года назад

Great video I'm getting a St mk8 soon great cars I think your falling in love too 😉 I'm going to get a 5 door as it suits me more for the dog etc

@brianiswrong 4 года назад

At 1:38 Jay shows the exhausts tips playing hide and seek✌️

@ItsDanLatham 4 года назад

Loving the outtro! Never looked into these because of the 'boy racer' effect of the mk7, but the mk8 is certainly pretty smart. Great motoring on a budget.

@JeanV1986 4 года назад

The price/pleasure ratio on this car is crazy! :D

@buckleyjteams 4 года назад

I have one and love it

@leonpalmer2429 4 года назад

Stage 1 revo remap with rev limiter off and exhaust system. Its pretty much perfect

@EENUFFF 2 года назад

Excellent interesting stuff indeed.I've had my 2018 ST3 (with performance pack and all the options I think) for nearly 3 weeks only but am really enjoying it so far..Living on the west coast of Norway I have absolutely no gripes about the heated windscreen (or steering wheel). Regarding the much touted huge increases in torque available from remapping I am sure it is very grin inducing out on the road but I would wonder about the long term survivability of the drivetrain ..a serious question on my part would be 'are people just gleeful to get those figures up or do they also do research into the design limitations of the components which have to get all of that onto the road?' Or indeed the same question for the engine itself? I suppose my advanced years and and some negative experiences with tuned engines without considering this stuff in my younger years force me to look a little farther than big figures. Anyhow I will reassess the situation only when my warranty is finished.

@jameslove888 4 года назад

Fwiw the ST3 doesn’t come with the performance pack, it’s also an option like on the ST2.

@spanky3101 4 года назад

It does now! They're in the process of redoing the spec sheets for both ST2 and ST3

@Holdeenio 4 года назад

Hey James, How did you find the seat? I haven't driven one of these as when I sat in it in the showroom I couldn't get comfortable in the seat. I'm not a big guy but my shoulders wouldn't fit in properly between the upper bolsters. I was pretty disappointed as I was really hoping this would be a contender for my wife and my occasional enjoyment.

@kickbuttowskii 4 года назад

Man I still don't understand why you're not in some big motoring RU-vid media.

@JayEmmOnCars 4 года назад

A great mystery indeed

@1970boggy 4 года назад

Keep telling my Son Luis-Stewart to upgrade from a ST Line to one of these 👍 Fabulous little car

@danchaplin134 4 года назад

Mr Boggy how is the st line ? Any problem s??

@1970boggy 4 года назад

Dan Chaplin Hi Dan Other than my Son Luis driving like a complete moron it’s been fantastic! It’s Red, factory specification. Really fabulous little car He leased over 3 years 10,000 miles a year He’s already done 28000 in 2 years 😂

@richlee509 4 года назад

@@1970boggy probably best to stick to the less powerful car if hes driving like a tit.

@1970boggy 4 года назад

Rich Lee Absolutely, he wants a Polo GTI however I’d prefer him to have something with only marginally more power.

@richlee509 4 года назад

@@1970boggy that's the idea these cars are getting too quick if you want a reason not to get a faster car have to look at that terrible accident caused by ian barton killed some poor women in dec last year.

@parkylol 4 года назад

as a former s2000 owner, that makes me sad to hear that it would be that much faster, haha. Although as good as that exhaust sounds, not quite as good as 9000rpm though ( in my opinion )

@PUNKF001 2 года назад

ex s2000 owner here too, nothing quite beats the 9000rpm scream, turbo stuff never comes close, much like with EV, id rather be slower but have a glorious soundtrack lol

@Unknown24182 3 года назад

I prefer my MK8 Fiesta ST than the focus, Mine also has been re mapped, Cracking little car 😋

@atomickoala62 4 года назад

Who else would like to see a properly bonkers fiesta RS? AWD, a. 2.3L? That would be something else

@amonGustavo07 4 года назад

Bc that’s way too cool

@Chema7657 Год назад

I love the Fiesta ST

@LawrenceTimme 4 года назад

Heated windscreens are epic

@IcheVonB 4 года назад

meh, in the previous fiesta which I had 2 years I used this option once in my life ... in the new mk8, if it wasn't for the fact that it was included in the package, I wouldn't choose this option :D. although I think that if you leave the car outside, this option is more useful

@Mr.Marbles 3 года назад

im jealous because i like the concept and hat how my window fogs up in the winter but i always see the wires so i could never get it.

@johnlightfoot1677 3 года назад

Tried a mk8 shortly after they were released , nice car , seat i couldn’t get on with ( back injury from motorcycle accident ) , too many buttons and distractions. Due to previous video by jayemm I bought a Toyota GRMN, mucho love 👍

@phileasfogg3536 4 года назад

How did you find the seats - they seem a bit on the snug side?

@KannX 4 года назад

I wonder what power output will be with remap, bigger intercooler and custom exhaust. About 280hp?

@keirbourne5323 3 года назад

250bhp

@chrismlarge1 4 года назад

I wonder how the standard clutch will cope those extra torques...

@tris7 4 года назад

Whats that Ford?? You won't honour my warranty- because I modified the car...

@MrSlubbo 4 года назад

Actually, the mk 8 does have a gpf filter :)

@jonpeach5851 10 месяцев назад

The car I’m looking at ford fiesta st-2 2018. has engine performance level high launch control does that mean it has the performance pack and the quaife diff?. Unsure about the amber ST light that came up next to the 1k rev as of yet thanks people

@FeedmycuriosityYT 3 года назад

Love my mk8 best car I’ve ever had.

@rh6777 4 года назад

Never thought about the LSD in track mode....you can turn ESC on in track mode - anybody know if torque vectoring would still be off?

@Mr.Marbles 3 года назад

Actually trackmode does not turn off esc completely. it puts it in sports mode. You can hold the esc button and then it turns off completely, which works in every drivemode. So drivemode and esc can be set seperately. When i turned it off i noticed the car has the tendency to understeer a bit more on corner entry tho, so the torque vectoring actually makes handling sharper even with the lsd. Havent had it on track yet but this is what it felt like to me.

@tobywalton7704 4 года назад

You make some good points James, but I believe you're missing something of you think these appear mainly to young petrolheads. I'm knocking on for 40 and but the mk7 ST I've had for 3 years still ticks all my boxes as an everyday driver. Sure, the fast Ford image isn't for everyone, but a "petrolhead" who overlooks the ST purely based on that needs a credibility check.

@JayEmmOnCars 4 года назад

The car's owner is of a similar age - it's why I make my prejudices about the Fiesta clear. They're great cars I just couldn't get over the image myself.

@fz555 4 года назад

Hi Toby, my wife has one of these, an ST3, and I just love driving it on country roads. It really is just so much fun, and the quaife diff really lets you get the power down very nicely indeed. I am going to be 60 in ten weeks or so and I drive a Focus ST3 in Tangerine Scream myself, but always look forward to getting in the Fiesta.

@spanky3101 4 года назад

The cars owner is 52 in a couple of months! 😀

@djmandrick 3 года назад

Wise words from the Tobes Meister General.

@ProjectFairmont 4 года назад

The 7th Gen FiST dominates H-stock AutoX in the US, and beloved. Too bad the Gen 8 FiST is not available here, sad...

@benh8944 4 года назад

Ford refused to have Mountune's stage 1 warranty friendly on this. Despite only going to 225bhp. With the success the warranty friendly tune had on the mk7, that sets the alarm bells ringing for the 3 pot. I loved the mk8 on a test drive, but with the ford dealer unable to tell me why they wont warranty the mountune 225 kit, I walked away and kept my mk7 ST.

@turbocharged9906 4 года назад

Why is it ringing alarm bells? Ford just dont want Mountune getting cash for performance mods when Ford Performance are planning their own kits.

@benh8944 4 года назад

@@turbocharged9906 The fact the dealer told me he wasn't allowed to tell me why got my bells ringing. Also more and more mk8's on the owners forum are getting oil leaks before 10k, cylinder head seems to be the main cause. Especially mapped cars.

@benh8944 4 года назад

Most ST's have issues early in production. I would always wait for the facelift or until Ford iron out any problems, like they did with the later mk7 ST's with the coolant tank issue.

@buckleyjteams 4 года назад

Ben H89 no problem with mine yet(touch wood) but its not mapped and at 12,000 miles

@davothegreat9990 4 года назад

@@benh8944 I still have my 2014 fiesta st. Coolant issue fixed under recall and to date no real issue. Only thing expensive that I needed to replace was the duel mass flywheel and clutch. Otherwise car runs well. But still has noisy injectors under idle which is annoying!!😒😒

@kd2833 2 года назад

What gearbox it hase ? Lot have 390 nm

@cassis1018 3 года назад

Yaris GR might pull fxxxxxg well at stage 1. Yes ? Sorry, but as far as pulling goes, it is the Toyota. Hope for long straights...

@takenbystorm 3 года назад

To anyone this may help; If you are looking to understand why/how a 3 cylinder is so successful, i'd start my reading on the 5 cylinder.

@chrismc1977 4 года назад

It needs some uprated engine mounts. It’s comical how much the exhaust changes length!!

@spanky3101 4 года назад

Just waiting to find one that doesn't fail! Hopefully the redesigned Powerflex ones wont fall to bits like the old ones did!

@Mr.Marbles 3 года назад

They did that because the engine vibrates more because its a 3 pot. You can get many aftermarket ones, but this will probably turn the fiesta into a driving vibrator. So you also have to install seat covers when you take a lady with u. Now thats getting expensive!

@lastdimestudios 4 года назад

The focus rs’ destructibility has dented the brand imo. I couldn’t bring myself to tune an eco boost.

@turbocharged9906 4 года назад

But tuning the RS wasnt the issue, it was some fuck up by a parts supplier with the headgaskets. 2.0 ecoboosts were the worst, blew up due to LSPI easily.

@keirbourne5323 3 года назад

The 2.3 ecoboost in the RS and the 1.6 / 1.5 in the Fiesta STs are different. The Fiesta engines have never suffered similar issues to the RS ones. The ST180 1.6 ecoboost in particular is one of the best engines Ford have ever made. Serious serious reliability. People are doing all sorts of things with these engines - track use, race use, drag racing, daily driving on huge 400bhp power - and the engines just don't go wrong. A lot of other parts go wrong but the engines are rock solid.

@peedeegt 3 года назад

I’d say the fact that they sold so many dented the RS brand tbh.

@dylanh1978 4 года назад

This fiesta still looks like a big MPV from the back , it's so off putting.

@xIcarus227 4 года назад

Exactly, it looks like the rear was inspired from the 2012 C-Max.

@dylanh1978 4 года назад

@@xIcarus227 Yes very similar, it's as a result of all of the features on the rear such a crease lines, rear lights, spoiler, bumper of the car are designed upwards in motion, it makes the car look alot higher and less aggressive.

@Mr.Marbles 4 года назад

yeah i also think they kind of messed up there. it isnt ugly or anything, but the "long-upwards" teillights were kind of the signature look of the fiesta. i mean they kept the front and updated it slightly, why not also the back?

@dom3827 4 года назад

no matter what you think. But it looks way way better than the old version which had female lights all around. The MK7 was a girly car. And the rear lights did not fit in any way shape or form to the car. They were just shited on there in the last second because the designer forgot them.

@dylanh1978 4 года назад

@@dom3827 Yes I'd agree, I think the Focus St- line looks better than the actual Focus St aswell which is weird.

@TheHayabusa09 3 года назад

Torque is not doubled..just shy of an extra 100NM..

@Andrew-el8xi 4 года назад

Shame the rear now looks like everthing else I like the old backside

@tizben 4 года назад

Ford still makes fiesta's in other countries? They completely discontinued them in the US

@JayEmmOnCars 4 года назад

The US was never a good market for the Fiesta

@brianiswrong 4 года назад

The fiesta has always been the corner stone of ford UK's range of cars. It suits our smaller roads .

@fatwalletboy2 4 года назад

Did you say "double the torque" from the standard cars 214 lbft? What so about 420-430 lbft? Amazing from a 3 pot 1.5

@JayEmmOnCars 4 года назад

No, double at 1500 not double headline

@spanky3101 4 года назад

Look at the dyno printouts in the video, the yellow line is the torque. You can see at about 2.3k revs (I think) its double or thereabouts. Its hugely noticeable and pulls from really low down. Even at 70 mph on the motorway in 6th you're right in the fat part of the torque and you can just put your foot down and it's off!

@Sierra747 4 года назад

I’ve warmed to the mk8’s looks a bit but I don’t like the interior with that stupid screen stuck on the dash 😡😡 plus I don’t really want a 3 cylinder even if it sounds ok.

@KXP70 4 года назад

Why would you not want a 3 cylinder?

@Sierra747 4 года назад

Kurt Phillips I don’t like the idea of higher powered engines with less cylinders. Ford 1.0 eco boost has has it fair share of problems. It also sounds a bit rubbish to say you own a 3 cylinder engine too!! I don’t like 4 cylinders much either. I’m going 6 cylinder next. Still a 3 pot is still better than electric lol.

@Sierra747 4 года назад

Dean M the st are supposed to be a small hot hatch aren’t they?? The bog standard ones are cheap runabouts with small engines.

@graemew7001 4 года назад

I'm a man who likes 4/5 doors but I'd be willing to forego the 2 extra doors to have this in that colour with those wheels on it.....and go looking for S2000's 😂

@matthewjackson4899 4 года назад

They are available in 5 doors in all ST models

@graemew7001 4 года назад

@@matthewjackson4899 Are they? Cheers for that, I'll be honest I'm not up on the new cars that are coming out.....I'm an old fart stuck back in the past 😂

@Andy-2022 4 года назад

It’s not as quick as an s2000, I’ve had both

@graemew7001 4 года назад

@@Andy-2022 Neither am I Andy.....I'm 50 and long past all that driving fast as I can shit....most of the time lol

@bmwman1981 4 года назад

Matthew Jackson why would you want a 5 door fiesta st you might as well buy a focus st Instead

@timbersflooringserviceswar4989 4 года назад

😂Awaiting the S2K fan club to chirp up 😂

@stuartmansfield9k 4 года назад

So much burn :)

@MarcusTDM 4 года назад

These new fiestas look great. A much better car than the old one.

@sassythesasquatch8006 4 года назад

from the front yes can't say I'm a fan of the back... am still an owner of one tho lol

@dom3827 4 года назад

its better in any way.

@thecommentator6694 3 года назад

@@sassythesasquatch8006 Same here, if only the back looked as good as the front, it would be one even-sexier car. Still planning on getting one soon though, I figured if I'm in the driving seat having fun, I'm not going to be looking at or caring about the rear of it!

@bristolbullterrier.1434 2 года назад

Mk7 in blue still the best looking in my opinion.

@bobbieluij Год назад

@@bristolbullterrier.1434 Thats what I own ;)

@DrKampfpudding 3 года назад

Did you say double the torque ?? So 580NM ?????

@JayEmmOnCars 3 года назад

Not double peak torque but double further down rev range

@xr2fan655 4 года назад

If you drive everywhere in track mode and you end up off the road, bet the insurance company would wriggle out of paying.

@thecommentator6694 3 года назад

How? If they know what car you drive then they know it has driving modes, how could that possibly void your waranty? It's very common these days...

@TRIVIUMDAVEX 4 года назад

I was going to pick one up until I found that the ST3 was a ridiculous price (7k more than my Mk7...), didn't have adaptive cruise as an option when the ST line can... Oh, and I picked up a Golf R for 5k less. Sorry, but this Fiesta is way too expensive for a small hatch, I'd rather go the class above for that kind of price.

@chrismullin1 4 года назад

You can come and drive my revo mk8 if you like to compare.. Although I'm in surrey

@painauchocolate2395 4 года назад

Hey, how does the revo map feel mate? Tempted

@chrismullin1 4 года назад

@@painauchocolate2395 it is very good, biggest change is in second and third gear. Get a bit of wheelspin in second if you floor it but the pull in third is much better than stock.

@buckleyjteams 4 года назад

Chris Mullin how much was it pal? Cant wait to get mine done and did you get the obd 2 port lock out thing incase someone nicks it?

@chrismullin1 4 года назад

Just under £500. Didn't bother with the port thing.

@kd2833 3 года назад

0-60 after remap ?

@jimmyfarley5581 2 года назад

0-60 is irrelevant. How it drives and handles its power is what matters. Achieving the "quoted 0-60" time is based on so many factors! Road surface, tyres, tyre pressure, road temperature, air temperature, weight, fuel quality, oil quality and driver ability. 9 times out of 10 you won't achieve the quoted 0-60 time.

@kd2833 2 года назад

@@jimmyfarley5581 i do better then quote 0-60 in al my cars so i care lol

@williambuxton8223 4 года назад

Interesting why the manufacturer didn't extract all that power out of the car in the first place....mmmm

@JayEmmOnCars 4 года назад

There will be a lot of reasons for it, mostly them wanting to keep distance between it and their higher end modele

@kristianspencer1978 4 года назад

£25000 for a fiesta. That’s crazy money. U could get a supercharged vxr8 for that kind of money. I know what I would rather have....❤️

@pgr3290 4 года назад

The stage 1 Fiesta, because it's brand new rather than nearly 15 years old. It's a better car suited for the UK's roads and cities. It would run rings around an old Holden. That typical B road he's driving down right now, a 500 horsepower Monaro wouldn't be as fast as that Fiesta. It would be lying upside down in the ditch after the second corner.

@Slideslikebutter 4 года назад

@@pgr3290 maybe with you driving

@pgr3290 4 года назад

@@Slideslikebutter I think I made it clear I would be in the Fiesta, and the Monaro would be watching the little hatch drive away because it has 600kg less mass to move around a corner....A monaro has absolutely no hope of getting near the fiesta on Britain's B roads

@HillJamie17 3 года назад

Cheaper running costs, newer car, a lot more features… I wouldn’t drive a VXR8 everyday 😂😂

@tris7 4 года назад

Sounds great but personally, I really don't get the obsession with torque and hot hatches. More torque equals fewer revs and wheres the run in that? A hot hatch should be a pleasure to rev, you should want to rev it until the valves bounce on the bonnet and then change gear.

@Benzknees 4 года назад

How thievable is perhaps a better question!

@Andy-2022 4 года назад

No more than any keyless car, however you can turn off keyless entry

@davidkay3443 4 года назад

They now come with keyless that deactivates.so if u put your key down on table after 40secs stops emitting any signal..so no Faraday pouch needed.. all new models come with this. Put disklok on also and little safe for obd port just to be extra safe and u will be fine

@1970boggy 4 года назад

Holy Shi@ did he say 25k !!!!! I’m out of touch & by a long way. Luis buy something else

@kevinparr4823 4 года назад

I've had a st2 in magnetic.. £ 21.500 still a lot for a fiesta.. but amazing car

@masondavies1621 4 года назад

Ikr 😂 I'd rather buy a 2017 bmw 240i

@1970boggy 4 года назад

Mason Davies Had One great car

@masondavies1621 4 года назад

@@1970boggy what ?

@1970boggy 4 года назад

Mason Davies I have owned a M240i

@MrBreakingBud 4 года назад

RIP warranty

@tonyb1223 4 года назад

@Ross Bourne your disadvantage is that modern ecu's show you how many times they have been flashed, thats your warranty gone.

@chirpywiggins5796 3 года назад

Most folk who do this don’t care !! I’d never mod a car a didn’t own ie on PCP or HP and that had a decent manufacturer warranty ! Way too risky and actually in breach of your finance agreement!

@greggsmith5391 3 года назад

Mate these are not as tunable. I have a mark 7 with 370bhp and these new 1.5 engines are yet to crack the 300bhp mark. They are great with a stage 1 and stage 2 map. But they have limitations that the tuning company's at the moment can't get past. But there are great for about 280 290 bhp. Did yo prefer the m8 over the mk7 ?

@x58evo2puma7 3 года назад

Yes they have past the 300 mark on the mk8 st on standard engine I’ve seen one with just over 300hp

@HillJamie17 3 года назад

Pumaspeed have a 300bhp MK8…

@greggsmith5391 3 года назад

@@HillJamie17 there still not as tunable as the mk7s mate. Why would the lads at puma speed remove the 3 cylinder and pop in the 4 cylinder from the mk7. Spoke to the lads at puma speed yes u still get great gains from that engine but its not as tunable as the mk7. Hopefully further down the line with more development it is but at the moment it is not

@HillJamie17 3 года назад

@@greggsmith5391 oh don’t worry I know the MK7’s are more tuneable. I was just saying that Pumaspeed have a 300BHP MK8 with the 3 cylinder engine. Not sure if they still have that or like you said put the 4 pot in for more power. If it were me pushing for power I would choose the MK7 engine. I wouldn’t want the MK8 at 300bhp I think that’s too much for a 3 cylinder in the long run

@topcentral3390 5 месяцев назад

Yeh I’ll be honest that is true to and extent but the mk7 is more likely to blow up compared to a remapped mk8. Correct me if I’m wrong tho I’m still learning

@JoolzThePirate 4 года назад

Easiest way fr your to tune your fiesta is to lose some weight

@richlee509 4 года назад

Quite a large guy wouldnt want him atop of you

@chrisogrady28 4 года назад

Not sure I could enjoy a car with a 6k redline tbh

@wefwefwef. 4 года назад

Want one of these, the only downside to em is the number of owners that are complete tossers lol. That 'colour' is trash too

@darronian4951 4 года назад

I actually like the colour, doesn't make it stand out so much, more under the radar.

@wefwefwef. 4 года назад

@@darronian4951 hard to spot on dingy rainy uk days, road camo is not a good idea in the long run

@zc31s56 5 месяцев назад

Definitely not standard in the st2

@kiriakosnikolaou1756 Год назад

👌👌👌👌🙋

@roberttaylor465 4 года назад

Give it a few months and it will end up parked outside a Ford service department with engine in bits like the rest of the ecobooms.

@Andy-2022 4 года назад

This car has been out well over a year and there are no problems to date with the engines

@largeChongus97 4 года назад

13k miles on mine, had the Revo map since April and no issues so far

@booriesb 4 года назад

@@largeChongus97 how much was the revo map pal .... and how long did it take ..... cheers

@largeChongus97 4 года назад

@@booriesb it was £470 and I took it to CEUK. It took about 30 mins as Adam who works their uploaded the map and then took the car out to see if everything was running smoothly whilst his laptop was plugged in to the car

@booriesb 4 года назад

@@largeChongus97 cheers for the reply pal ...

@crocoman776 4 года назад

That clutch isn’t going to last long......insane, and somewhat unnecessary increase in torque. Imo.

@KXP70 4 года назад

More torque is never unnecessary if the car can cope with it.

@spanky3101 4 года назад

There are several maps out for the Mk8 ST and have been out for several months, I've not heard of any clutch issues with any Mk8 yet. Saying that I've not heard of any issues attributed to any maps for the Mk8ST.......

@chirpywiggins5796 3 года назад

@@spanky3101 except for when you get a warranty claim on something else engine related and then Ford refuse to cover it when they find out(and most will) that it’s been tinkered with. Crazy to do a remap within your warranty or on a car that’s on PCP or HP which the vast majority of these are ! (You don’t own the vehicle!).

@HillJamie17 3 года назад

@@chirpywiggins5796 the car’s torque i think is enough, I just wish they had some more top end power especially in the PE’s and the ST Edition. The Mountune map looks the best option for mapping, the torque isn’t crazy and the power delivery is linear.

@spanky3101 2 года назад

@@chirpywiggins5796 this particular car is now almost 3 years old and a touch over 20k miles has had an updated version of the map and has been dynoed at 253hp/394 N/m and it's been faultless. Of course theres a risk modifying a car in warranty but that's a choice people make. In the 3 years the Mk8ST has been out I've not heard of any catastrophic engine failures and certainly no issues with any of the many maps available for the car.

@amonGustavo07 4 года назад

Am I the only one that thinks it looks like a turd? I still think they’re awesome though

@JamieR1988 4 года назад

Can people please stop using the phrases 'Stage 1' 'Stage 2' etc etc etc. They literally have no meaning at all because each car is unique and has to be set up differently to any other car. Also, the people whom do the tuning also differ greatly from one and other so a 'stage 1' at one garage could be the equivalent of a 'stage 2' at another garage. Using these terms makes you sound like a twat and makes you sound like you have absolutely no idea what's actually been done to your car lol.