How Ursaluna Makes Full Trick Room Viable For the First Time 

Imagine hitting so hard that you make a previously unviable strategy suspect to being banned.

The big boy bear destroy all with the fury paws with the power of the angry. XD

​@@asterlofts1565 ?

Oh, me? I just like hurting people.

Honestly in Ubers last gen trick room was fun to play with melmetal, glastrier and kyogre

Really? I saw an lot of people say it was gonna be an BL or UU Mon

@@rontheauraknight9606 Ursaluna hype went through two distinct phases "Ursaluna's 100% going to be ubers look at this thing" > "Ursaluna would have been ubers in gen 8 but gen 9's way too powercreeped for it to be scary" > You are here.

@@kond7664 all I said is what I saw not what I personally thought. Me personally I thought it was going to be BL but with an solid OU niche. I underestimated both its bulk and it actually making Trick room Viable lol.

Yeah I saw a lot of clowns say at best ursaluna was going to be uu and how iron hands and great tusk invalidate it. Lol they were wrong

I saw that PLA catching race tournament Wolfy did with like. RTgame, Smant, Xray but not Vav and so on. It's performance in that was unbelievable

I remember looking at Bronzong in Diamond as a kid and just wishing it got Curse. Imagine what that could do!

Alolan marowak could be good in past gens but was more of a rogue strategy than high tier.

Trick Room Reuniclus has been dabbled in as a late game cleaner from my understanding, functioning essentially like an agility sweeper. Not sure how much it actually got used in OU, but it makes sense on paper.

@@MacZephyrZ some usage but cm magic gaurd and regenerator usuaply were used more

​@@MacZephyrZ tr reni was great in bw ou. Just shit on faster teams trying to dink on cm reuni. U change the speed matchup.

And ruin the format and worlds in the process. Yeeeeeeey.

Well not in VCG because if someone sees Ursaluna they will almost always double into the trickroom setter I have yet to lose to Ursaluna truck room team in VGC. Shadowrider Calyrex is by far the most effective at killing trick rooms setters for me.

​@@_RogueRage bro thats an unrestricted meta you won't be using that rider in ranked while luna gets to run free

So hyped to see Ursaluna get added to the game just before worlds alongside a slew of other broken shit that are added alongside it to throw the meta into complete disarray Yay fun time, I love Gamefreak and how they handle things 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

@@Azusashusband oh that’s true then I would just run imprison trickroom gengar

Stall has been trying to incorporate Drifblim. But according to an unofficial Stall tierlist it's ranked as C-.

I thought of using Drifblim with Rocky Helmet and Aftermath. It works now but once Ursaluna starts to run Crunch, it's of no use.

Imagine forgetting that a bear can bite u lol

@@herhhetj5372 lol

Early Gen normal type = infinite coverage, remember?

Can it win versus skarm?

@@tobias9790 i mean its pretty widely agreed upon that corv is better than skarm so probably

​@@tobias9790 Freezai has another video talking about the Corvikinght vs Skarmory dilemma. In short, Corvi has higher HP and lower defense than Skarm but that makes it tank hits better.

@@jonathanchen1834 na skarm is better then corv in every way, including design

@@MrMonkey2150 Objectively wrong, not on the design part.

Ursaluna's eyes turn red to signify it's been burned by its Flame Orb

Would you be able to clarify the Gen 8 speed changes?

​@@roku144in gen 8 onwards, speed changes are dynamic - they apply immediately on the turn they were used, unlike earlier gens where turn order is calculated at the beginning of the turn, so speed changes don't take effect till NEXT turn basically unimportant for singles cause theres only two pokemon who move but has an impact on doubles where theres up to 4.

​@@LilyTengokuThank you for explaining that! I didn't know about it since i've been away from pokémon for awhile! That's a small change that make such a big difference, also didn't know how it worked in earlier gens, like the details!

@@raphaelkhoury218That one change made Whimsicott consistently a top 5 mon in Gen 8 Vgc because the combination of Prankster and Tailwind was absolutely broken. The same combination made Murkrow the single best mon in series 1 of Gen 9 Vgc

Same. I love Ursaring and was mad it was being slept on all this time. No one’s sleeping now

@@TheNadroj10 except in the graaaaave!!!!

Furthermore, it’s not even Normal/Rock. This also means that Rock is proven a horrible type once again.

Genius

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Yeah... It kind off just looks like GameFreak wanted it to be busted, or they did it accidentally dunno...

Surely Conkeldurr is not that forgettable of a mon

also immune to sleep, cause you're already going to be burning yourself with flame orb regardless. :P

Both Tailwind and Trick Room have been important strategy staples for years now in VGC, if you want to see a metagame where they're active. You always have to plan for when the opposing team tries either move. It's really clear these moves were designed for doubles with the low turn limits.

I feel this is a great exaggeration of its power, Taunt is naturally everywhere because it's so good even without tr matchup, they also can carry fake out and the dark types often pressure the setters too much. The catch with psychic terrain is you have to actually run InDD, so now it's InDD + Cress, who struggle to do any meaningful damage themselves, Ursa can not win a 1v2 most of the time. Chien Pao can just click Ice Spinner, and now no more terrain, Rillaboom is also a super common pokemon that can override the terrain on switch in as well as access to fake out to stall a crucial trick room turn. Ursa may be super hard to slow down, but we still have intimidate, which neutralises the guts boost. Idk if I have any specific checks for Ursaluna in my team and the matchup is favourable (Eleki/Heatran/Chien Pao/Urshifu/Rillaboom/Lando-T, standard balance). I agree it's a monster of a pokemon but just wanted to expand my thoughts because I feel needing specific checks is exaggerating it

@@lovelyluna733 mental herb, psychic terrain, and many other things which are common as hell on a standard indeedee cress lead.

@Lux yh already talked about the flaw of indeedee, most Cress teams don't want to run it and if they do they kind of lose way too many turns to make it efficient, they might have to hard switch into Ursa if neither die, since they can't do any damage, and that's a risky play considering they could hit it on switch in. In a perfect world where indeedee dies on the first turn of TR, and Ursa comes, it can only kill 1 Mon because you can protect on the other 2, and now it's a very vulnerable pokemon. Hell, even if Ursa entered the moment tr was set up, it has 2 turns to do things because of protects. Normally, if you survive the tr turns, you can overwhelm them with stronger offence.

Imprison Gardevoir works wonders at denying that team from having a chance to get started.

I’ve run crunch from the very beginning tbh. It’s not because of these hyper-specific options like drifblim or mismagius, moreso the mindgame of someone switching in their corviknight and ghost type back and forth to stall out TR turns. I just say fuck it, SD up and run crunch on top of facade and hlong rush, and either of those switch ins is taking a beating regardless and no mindgames have to be played. Honestly don’t know how people haven’t run it from the very beginning either tbh fire punch on this thing is trash honestly it hits 1-2 relevant targets tops lmao

@@BromanderInChief that's what fire fang is for, it chunks everything stimm So it ends up being the best middle ground, you effectively don't need to choose if you click fire fang because it chunks em both

I don't know if that's worth dropping a free choice band and 140 BP STAB move though

@@lovelyluna733 If its a doubles team like I assumed it to be then maybe

​@@edsbegaming507 you'd rather have flame orb in doubles, no? To protect from sleep?

@EDSBeGaming even in doubles, it's still more valuable. At least in VGC where you have only 4 pokemon, Ursaluna's Tera Normal Facade can 2 shot boosted Dozo, the rest of the meta is kind of dropping dead, it gets earthquake for spread damage and is often paired with helping hand Cress to annihilate the other side

Yall. It isn’t my team I don’t have all the answers lmfao, all I was saying was I can see it being a set for doubles

big bear goes rawr :33

It would make Ursaluna, like, unstoppable, but others could come in and reverse trick room

Sadly, this would be one of the most broken things to ever exist in Vgc, which is the official format, so Gamefreak wont want to buff Trick Room that much

Never, never create a trick room on switch unless is a box legendary, you'd make VGC the worst format, at least Smogon can ban pokemon

That would make the value of Knock Off extremely high.

Why on earth would you want to heal the burn BEFORE Ursa attacks?

@@Rarest26 wait did i say that? I meant Ursaluna attacks first then Cresselia heals it, and it dosent get hurt by Burn but also still fires off 1 shot kills since it went first before the heal

@@drxavier1870 You said to make cress faster than ursa IN trick room. That’s the important part. She’d have to be faster outside so that inside she goes after ursa destroys something.

@@Rarest26 Apologies for the mistake, do you at least see where im going with the strategy?

Not to mention regular Ursaluna dropped to UU💀