Once you got trick room set up, this is even more brutal than in VGC because nobody carries protect to try to stall out trick room, so it's just four turns of OHKOS.
@@elliottchen7947it's the other way around - VGC commonly carries Protect to stall out Trick Room, but Singles doesn't. The original comment is saying this strategy is devastating to those who didn't take it into account.
Until freezai mentioned that the only NU fairy type is grimmsnarl, it never clicked to me that a type being so ridiculously overtuned could result in a desolation of that type for lower tiers: further resulting in that type not even checking what it was designed to in the first place.
@@frosthammer917 i mean i figured at the very least Morgrem would have also been allowed. But nothing threatening and nothing existing is pretty close to the same thing.
In earlier generations that often happened with Steel-types. Having that many resistances was so helpful that the majority of Steel-types were in the upper-tiers.
@Doug_Edwards99 more of a result of a lack of options tbh you have less than 10 steel types in gen 2, well gen 6 clearly had like 20 fairy types. bit messed up that even 4 gens later this occurs
I wouldn't say its "messed up" that this occurs 4 gens later because that implies it was either intentionally done or a result of some kind of incompetence. GF don't have "lower tier competitive balance" even on their radar when they design games, so this kind of thing is kinda unavoidable. Balancing games is also difficult even for someone who does have this kind of thing on their radar.
In theory this is true, but this whole thing is a team effort. Pokemon is a game full of what ifs and maybes, so putting a team's positioning onto one person's conscious isn't the best idea. Unless you're following the tournament as a whole and can confirm that none of the other games were close in nature, I don't think it's fair to put the team's position solely on Freezai.
@@VGCKenny honestly, i agree there was probably a 50/50 in one of the other games that his teammate won, but would you say that single-handedly saved his team from a loss? no, it was a combination of everybody's efforts on both sides that caused a tie in the end, even though it is possible to break it down into tiny bits and pieces it is a collective effort I meant this in theory, that if a coinflip had gone right then the scoreboard would be different, but in reality literally anything could've changed it I guess this is the flaw with the butterfly effect, it wasn't just the butterfly that caused the hurricane, the many winds and probably other butterflies funnily played just as big of a role, so why do we pin it on that single butterfly
That turnaround was fantastic; got read last week and Freezai goes straight to the kitchen and cooks up a strat that wins in 10 turns for this week. Please keep the tournament coverage coming :)
I'm sorry for you, some people have sequencies of 400+ hundred days asking for something, i would feel sad for something like that, stay strong buddy. ❤
Offensive trick room swreper is a rare role but it definitely existed before, reuiniculus was quite infamous for its life orb trick room set in gen 5 and almost got banned because of it
@@YOSSARIAN313 I love Calyrex Ice. It feels like Caly Shadow with some degree of balance in mind with 6 weaknesses, no physical psychic stab, and low speed outside of Trick Room.
This is basically a Doubledance Farigiraf, but instead of something like Nasty Plot + Agility, by using Trick Room, you get to invest so many more points into Farigiraf’s already fantastic bulk and blow through faster and more frail mons. Incredibly well executed game, and very smart team building!
I will say, I don’t normally watch competitive Pokémon content, but this style of video, with the extra in-game visual for the battles, is some top tier content. I am enjoying it a lot, as someone who has always been closely interested in comp Pokémon, but never committed to watching 1 person
That was an exceptional example on how to really bring something innovative into a competitive setting. A lot of people say a lot on how to attack a format but takes true knowledge of the staples and standard teams to actually break them. This was genius
I don't know much about competitive pokemon but I enjoy this series because it makes it very easy to understand the nuance of teambuilding and decision making in battle, and that is interesting to me even though I haven't invested time into understanding it myself.
I love coming up with weird strategies like this, but I really suck at finding ones that are actually worthwhile to try and suck even more at executing them
I saw the battle on your other account, and I couldn't wait to see the edited version. The battle was hype and you got every single prediction right. The anti lead. The double switch. The Sap Sipper bluff. You earned that quick win. Great video, keep the editing quality up! The ingame replays add so much to smogon tournament coverage.
Love this! I don't play competitive Pokemon myself but I love seeing the thought that goes into it, so having the descriptions of abilities and moves is great for me to keep up with what's happening
I like how Freezai didn't even mention how he called out the Tera Steel from Qwilfish to make the game even faster. Just shows how insane that game was
I feel like farigiraf is eventually going to hit NU and maybe even RU in singles if its lucky with this strats discovery. It seems well balanced in the fact that if it has a turn it can waist, it becomes a sweeper, but it needs that turn. Im really excited to see this unfold.
@FenShen-us9tv I disagree. Though its a bit hard to explain, the way that i see it, chess is a good example for how your opponent can have a good idea of what your plan is and still catch you off gaurd. People would need to respect the fact that you have a Farigiraf without a bug or dark move and some pokemon that would give the mon a turn to nasty plot or trick room. It shifts their entire game plan before the battle even starts. I think the Tatsu/Rigi/Ther combo works so well that even if it's a complete gimmick set, they'd still have a niche in NU without needing to move up, and a really good niche at that.
@@natecgames4612 Chess can also be a good argument _against_ Farigiraf rising that high. Sure, unorthodox openings will catch someone out when they're completely novel, but once they become more popular, refutations are easy to come by. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong and Farigiraf actually does reach RU at some point. We'll just have to wait and see.
@@natecgames4612 Freezai got a free turn because Armor Tail is never used. Seed flare would put Farigiraf into knock out range. If people ran trick room Farigiraf all the time people would assume it's armor tail.
@FenShen-us9tv that's a bit less useful now that you say it like that. Though do you know how many Pokémon have bullet like moves or even grass moves. I'm not expecting an exact answer, just wondering how often Farigiraf would appear in this scenario.
Sometimes the rarest strategies work out surprisingly well, especially if they're completely unexpected ha ha. Well done Freezai! This was a very interesting trick room singles strategy!
I was listening while doing something for the teambuilder, and looked up to see gligar do like 40% to goodra with u-turn, and it took me a second to realize what was going on LOL (realized after the muddy water after that did so little). Great vid, it's been really cool to see your channel grow, and it's also especially cool that there's a good divide between singles and doubles content (people usually only do either or). Keep it up!
Utter Domination at the highest level with a beloved pokemon of mine. Words cannot express how estatic I am to see this kind of match. Will be watching the rest of your tournament matches as you upload. May fortune favor you in your future battles.
Man, I love your videos, very informative and have helped me getting into competitive pokémon a bit, but nothing compares to hearing Pokémon Conquest music in your videos
It's crazy how much it makes sense yet it's novel. It's essentially analogous to swords dance/nasty plot agility. And the cherry on top is that the tradeoff being it isn't permanent like agility is pretty much nullified by farig's bulk -- the cost of muscling through a fast bulky sweeper is usually one that can't be recovered from so even if trick room expires, it's a non issue.
For non competetive pokemon player these videos are awesome seeing the nuances and decision making that comes into competetive play. It shows a side of pokemon that I didn't know could be so technical.
Wow, incredible! I’m absolutely a novice with competitive Pokémon all things considered but you pull the audience directly into the mind of someone who’s been into this for years and set it up so even they feel smart with you. Incredible work as always.
