How was the Quran Organized by Chapter & Verse? | Questions about the Quran Part 6 | Dr. Shabir Ally 

I ggrew up a Muslim, good Muslimin will NEVER ask for money, this asking For money is not Islam's custom @Let the Quran Speak. You should be ashamed.

I would give to the poor before i ask The People for money and i am poor, that is Islam. @ let the Quran Speak.

I think it's ok to ask some support from muslim brother to make better dawah

@@darmawan88 in Islam we give Zakat automaticly, at least i do, we give so we dont have to ask. You understand Zakat Right?

@@darmawan88 also you do remember your Mother saying you better not be begging or asking people for money, because it is embarrassing.

OK answer but not clear right? Who organized the chapters and verse in the present Quran? God or Man?

Did you even watch the video? 🤦‍♀️

That's not correct. The last chapter is not the smallest in the Quran....

That's wrong. The order we have today is not the chronological order of how the verses have been revealed.

Alhamdulilla, you got it right ✅️

Alhamdulilla, you got it right ✅️

Agreed

If it's not, it's error in chapter arrangement

@@cotesia7931 Arrangement of verses and Rakus (Paragraphs) is also a complicated matter. It will always remain a mystery. SriRam.

Perhaps the Prophets was not illiterate. But he was not a scholar either. SriRam.

@@chandermohan1134 idk man... many evidences suggest that hes illiterate

NO problem in that

No problem, because different topic

No problem at all. But order of verses and chapters is a highly controversial topic. So, it is better to study it in the present available form. Anyway, the tough classical is quite serious and charishmatic and has stood the test of time. It may take decades of hardwork to recite it properly and to sufficiently understand it. SriRam.

That is Dr Shabir's daughter dude

The end of one verse goes to the first of the second surah

I pray that Allah guides us all

Correct. Confusing and highly controversial topic. Perhaps there was an oral tradition in which the revelations were scattered here and there. The Abbasis compiled these scattered verses in a book form. It was natural that this compilation resulted in the amorphous and unsystematic structure and arrangement of verses and chapters available now. Anyway, this very tough classical is quite serious and charishmatic and has stood the test of time. SriRam.

You know you can verify this yourself and see that this is not true right? If you just take a look at the first 10 chapters you can tell that its not highest to lowest 1. 7 verses 2. 286 verses 3. 200 verses 4. 176 verses 5. 120 verses 6. 165 verses 7. 206 verses 8. 75 verses 9. 129 verses 10. 109 verses is this highest to lowest? did u fail math?

@@wrongin8992 Oh really? Let me verify: Firstly, this is what this guy said and I was just concluding based on his opinion. However, the first chapter is just the opening which can not be even God’s words because in it , someone , asks for guidance by Allah. Secondly, the bigger number of verses doesn’t necessarily mean that the surah is also bigger but anyway Quran is just terribly arranged because it’s not arranged chronologically. There are Madani verses which are added to Makki verses and have totally changed the meaning, like verse 6 of Al-Alaqh which comes after the very first verses probably had revealed to Muhammad. They are also verses which denounce previous verses etc. In conclusion, Quran has lots of editorial issues besides all of other conceptual problems.

@@bahmankargosha4946 Qu'ran has no issues because it has numerical miracles in it that no human could of guessed, the temperature of the sun's surface is 5778K, there are 5778 verses between the first and last mention of the word sun, no human being knew the kelvin scale nor the number, and no one could of guessed this, therefore if it has been changed the numerical miracles would of fallen do the floor, and we have old qu'rans that match the same quran we have today, therefore your whole argument is demolished.

its not 100 years after the prophet's death, the compilation is completed 10 years after the prophet's death they were already compiling it at the time of the prophet and continued until finally managed to complete it at the time of uthman

Because of this u r not believer Jesus did not recieve bible nor he compose it

Very well said! It is a horribly disorganized book. The part that fascinates me is that abrogated verses are not labeled by Allah as abrogated. We know from Hadith and other sources which verses were abrogated. Some people still don’t know if certain verses are abrogated or still valid. An example is the verse that was used in this video “there is no compulsion in religion”. It is abrogated by the verses encouraging Jihad, according to some.

@@jmdawlat the verse that forbids compulsion in religion was never abrogated you muppet.

You can order the chapters in some relative ways. For example, mild chapters, where it talks about peace, and addresses people of other faiths, were the pre war chapters. Chapters that were addressed to the Jews, and where it said as long the people of the book believe, they have no reason to fear, those were from the Prophet's stay in Medinah. Some violent chapters were from the war times. The Chapter Al Imran, most of it addresses the wars, could be during that time. Some minority parts of it are indirectly addressed towards the Christians, would make sense to be meant for the Christian King of Aksum, when some companions of the prophet had to move to Ethiopia for safety and convince the King that Islam is a continuation of Judaism and Christianity. Or perhaps meant for the Najran Christians. And finally, the verse where decrees come upon and invalidate everything else aside from Islam, are after or around the time of the victory against Mecca.

@@jamieammar6131 The name of your Book is called Al Quran which means the Recitation yet its not read in that way. You have to invent your own order with made up concepts like Medinan and Meccan Verses, which is just a man made attempt to organize the book. If this was truly divinely inspired there would be no need to number or arrange it from Surah 1 - 114. Because the fact of the matter is Surah 1 could be Surah 50 and it wouldn’t make a bit of difference because One chapter has nothing to do with the other. Its All just confusion. For example The first revelation is supposedly Surah Al Alaq and How do Muslims know this? From sources outside the Quran in other words Man Made. Matter of fact there are some Muslims that don’t believe that Surah Al Alaq is the first revelation, and I actually agree with them because the Chapter gives no context in to suggest this was the first verse. Also I don’t know if you noticed but the Hadiths say The Angel said “Iqra” 3x but the Chapter only has it there twice. Its All manmade and the narrative is falling apart. Dr. Ally even says that 5 verses were revealed and then the rest “at some other time” which is that “some other time”… Nobody Knows.

The Quran has no order but in order to find and easily reference certain topics there was a need to create verses and chapters. There is no wrongdoing in that.

@@TheTruth-hc7ww Yes a great mystery. Still the tough classical is quite serious and prophetic in its outlook and charismatic and has stood the test of time. SriRam.

@@TheTruth-hc7ww Gabriel said '"Iqra" three times before the rest of the first verse of Surah Alaq was revealed. The first two times he said this, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said "I am unable to read." After the third "iqra," Gabriel followed it with the rest of the verse. "Iqra" "I am unable to read" "Iqra" "I am unable to read" "Iqra bismi rabika alazhi khalaq" That last line is 96:1. You're probably mistaking the lost third "iqra" in the Quran for the first three times Gabriel's said it. Nothing was lost, three consecutive "iqra" just weren't put in the beginning of Surah Alaq because Gabriel was preparing the Prophet (pbuh) for the first revelation.

@AB Nr There is a better way too dear which exists in this very world and just you are not aware of it

@@DK-sm7cb you mean the Bible that no one knows the actual confirmed authors of? That was written hundreds of years after Jesus (peace be upon him). That has no original Aramaic version and was edited by a King named James and has various versions other than that? That’s the “better” you’re talking about, I see.

How sure are you of your claim? I need references of your claim. Hint: Your claim has already been discussed and settled 1400 years ago by Muslim scholars and non-Muslims. Take your time.

You sound as silly as your surname. I suggest you study scholars and not missionaries like jay smith

This is the only generation that has no knowledge, but has opinion about everything. You don't even know how to spell Qur'an (which shows you have never even read it), and still visit Islamic channels and comment about the religion which you have no idea about... Good job!

Quoran does not addresses the people who don't believe in it ones mind should be lighted up to understand quoran those who indulge in eating pig wine r not in a position to understand it