How we developed the Cessna SkyCourier 

Hi Greg, I'm a cfi, with the goal to one day get to fly for fedex. Do you have any advice how i can reach my goals?

How is the market now for "just got their ATP ticket" looking for work as short to medium haul freight? I am retired and do this to entertain myself yet this category of "Weight & Balance" are my minimum training platform due to reasons too extensive to post ○ Sufficient to say Commercial IFR / ATP rated is the minimum that I feel safe at ~ I see many questions and respond with "best I can" directions

@@theo.c.2165 "The O.C." Yeo!!! You have this walk-in named Don Anderson → Walks in wearing Silk Aviator scarf Men's pure silk neck scarf , Silk neckerchief for men 100% Italian natural Silk Scarf and a leather Attaché from Cutthamm Burnam and Runn ○ Extracts an ID from one of 20 claiming he is Bloody Red Baron hit-man and needs to fly in to San Diego SVFR and pronto so get a move on Lacky !!!! ◘ Cool under fire you respond let me pull the Flight Plan and de holster at 9mm Officer's side arm → Don't drip blood on my floor you fool! Then he exits screaming Catch Me If You Can !!! *{ **g.co/kgs/Be7EqS** }* Let's say the you are Op's Manager Anderson ○ My Don Anderson is decedent about 5 Decades which is about ½-century ~ if you are in Greg's position what do you put on your daily report as the event????

@@theo.c.2165 I worked for a FedEx feeder, look for feeders for job postings and requirements. Many were working on first officer programs to help feed pilots into their programs, with the idea to flow upwards from 208 to 408 to 757. Of course covid took care of the pilot shortage, and it's really going to depend upon how steep of a recovery happens. Until you reach the 757 level you will just be a feeder pilot, with whatever benefits they offer, it does pay better than a normal feeder job like flying for ameriflight or similar

Yup. The LM200 Loadmaster replacement did take some time :)

Except for the big door in the side. Beats the TO hands down.

Somewhere between a twin otter and a shorts skybox. Lets see what the flight characteristics are. Dehavilland had a great product, Cessna, not so much. Maybe they finally have an appropriate wing.

@@dmack1827, the recipe is the same: build a box, attach airfoils, control surfaces and avionics as needed. Put some wheels under it. (Don't forget seating for the crew.) Add two PT6As. Voila!

It looks like a twin otter..

@@v1_rotate638 and that is a very good recommendation; the Twin Otter is legendary.

It looks so dated, we are in 1950? 🤔 😕

@@tristanjacques form follows function. What works looks like it does *because* it works. This is a no-bullshit cargo/utility aircraft, and frankly, the engineers *did* figure those airframes out in the 40s and 50s. What's changed are the things you cannot see: avionics, alloys, structural integrity, power plants, materials efficiency, etc.

Looks a lot like Short Brothers aircraft I flew short haul in SoCal in the 80’s.

@@gerrysmith5462 we called those 330s and 360's "the box the airplane came in" or "Flying Winnebago" I pumped a lot of jet fuel, loaded plenty of luggage on those winged boxes.

Interesting observation David and I concur having flown the SD330 in another life.

100%

I agree completely. Its kind of like we could do some flight testing of our own. And when you consider the number of Cessna/Textron aircraft in the sim already, it almost seems like a logical next step. I realize that Cessna has more important things to focus on, but what if?

This please! ☝

The twin otter is in production right now for msfs, I would love to see this on there

Me too

We used a Summit Air Skyvan in the Arctic for moving freight and personnel. Great aircraft. Two things that stood out on the negative side: Square fuselage in a cross wind was shall we say challenging. And the second, (specific to this particular aircraft,) the Garrett turbines would set up a harmonic that would drive you mad, LOL. Everything else about the plane was stellar.

Short Bros. was a great firm.

I’ve been in both the Beaver and Otter many times. The Otter is slow.

@@Chris_at_Home I take it you mean the single piston engine version. If you think the Otter is slow the Beaver is far worse. We've had to turn back in a severe headwind because our ground speed was next to negligible. Put a derated turbine in a Beaver and that's a whole different story. Having said that, both these planes were and are great aircraft.

@@lotahitchanova I know. I spent a summer where I chartered a Beaver on floats many times doing communications work. The Twin Otters were used as a daily shuttle between Anchorage and Kenai for many people doing work on the oil platforms down there. Then once there helicopter out do a few hours work and do it in reverse. We also use Beavers on fly out raft trips.

It’s an megaottervan lol

@@leefithian3704 , figure there is a little Skyvan in the mix?

Looks similar except for the tail. Cessna did great on this one. I'm curious to see if it has the same or better short field performance as the venerable Twin Otter.

twin otter series 400 still produced !!

Does it do anything better than the Twin Otter?

Viking in Victoria BC Ca. has upgraded the Twin Otter and is now repopping them and they can't keep up. Cessna is obviously taking advantage of this situation. It's no wonder it looks like the plane they copied. Nice build tho. Viking is also talking Otter....

It looks like a Twin Otter, but isn’t a Twin Otter. Its sole purpose is to haul packages and cargo economically from airports. It is not a STOL airplane, though it could likely be modified for STOL. It will handily beat the Twin Otter in almost every category including speed, range, payload, maintenance costs, dispatch reliability... with the sole exception of STOL which most operators don’t need anyways. Borek doesn’t need STOL running off ice runways they can make as long as they want. Harbour Air doesn’t need STOL taking off and landing on the ocean. Etc etc.

Exactly

It was designed with fedex after all

Hopefully people won’t be able to hear the bad muffler coming down the street.

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Yea , but that door will launch 8 way pieces for sixteen way comp pretty easy

Thought the same thing

I think skydiving is probably one of the target markets for this plane.

That will last for a few weeks then you will want to fly a bigger, faster plane preferably without propellers. Once you have that job you then want to fly something bigger. Eventually you get to the stage of never wanting to sit in an airplane ever again. Trust me it happens.

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Mind you, that's not entirely derisive. They say that the only replacement for a DC-3 is another DC-3. I'm sure that, eventually, someone will come up with something that can haul 5 tons a thousand miles at 200 mph and land in 2500 feet fully loaded. Should be a piece of cake, right?

Luxury-pickup, for the discerning hillbilly. Im surprised you just didn't ask for one with giant "back the blue" and "trump" flags already attached and equipped with comically huge wheels lol

@@scottmattern482 that would work, along with the "God Bless the USA and long live the Republic" sticker.

Its not gonna be available with floats per cessna

@@anewrnn Well then, DeHavilland remains the champion.

Wipline put em on the caravan, and Cessna didn’t plan on that either. I can promise you some billionaire will have floats on it from Wipline in less than ten years. The Kaplan brothers from Minnesota bought one of the first privately sold caravans and had floats installed. I took care of that plane in the 80s.

@@SupermanJH68 I hope so... I was thinking floats right away....lol

That is exactly what I was thinking lol

Not really. It has a very different wing and is a lot bigger inside.

@@josephhann8844 u missed the joke 😒

My thoughts exactly 🤣

That was my first thought as well. Looks like an option for a low altitude ground support aircraft. Mini-spooky kind of thing.

Keeping the exhaust soot off the wings, just like the 1900D stacks do

Probably not certified yet, and that would have required a delay in the launch.

This was designed with FedEx as the launching customer, high tail is to keep it away from truck damage.