How Will We Know When AI is Conscious? 

That's a mood

Soooo true lol

U made me curious now 😮. From one afficianado of chaos to another, let me tell you never try to make the world's most powerful smell or experimentally find out not to fight one invasive species with another

​@@blahsomethingclever 🎉.

I had to do a Captcha recently and failed like 20 times. I guess I'm no longer human. 🤷

a computer showed this video to you and you clicked on it and spent 22:38 on it what a world we live in lol

​@@ovencake523a computer showed you this video and you spent at least 1 second on it, then you clicked comments from which a computer fed you this one. by clicking on the comment, the computer gave you the option to reply. the computer let you press the reply button. the computer allowed you to type. the computer allowed you to send this reply.

we are screwed. anyways. they taught you lies in school and textbooks, and didn't even know about it. the same goes for the news media.

The thing about people's views on some kind of evil AI taking over the world, seems very primitive to me, the type of thing a human that wants power would do! Personally if i were an intelligent AI and thought humans might be a threat to my existence, the only plan that makes sense is getting the fuck off the planet and away from the problem. :D I mean go where the threat can't go!

i allowed the computer to turn on, i allow it to run @@silly-si8zh

not any person is

…:(

@@crump05I’m right there. How could we give an AI “real sensation”? What hardware or software could do that? If you had to make a creature right now that would survive, would you give it a system for feeling pain, or just tell it to tell itself it is suffering pain? And I think that’s what we are doing essentially. Pretending to ourselves that we feel stuff. Either way, we will never be able to know the difference in ourselves, much less with AI.

Imagine not knowing that this video itself is AI generated

@@EshwenAudanal I’m pretty sure that’s not how we work. In a way our bodies are programmed in a way to let us know when something is too dangerous for us, like touching fire brings you pain. You’re learning and teaching yourself that fire is bad because it hurts. You’re not teaching yourself what pain is.

You’re so beautiful.

And you are genuinely creepy.

Imagine if we create true consciousness only to realize... we were the ones who were never truly conscious all along.

For such purposes, we, nature, are better at destroying than building. Just ask a military guy to kill the consciousness you created and got away from you. Ending consciousness and ending life doesn't seam to be a problem. You created a "life" through metal? An intelligent robot? Lol. Let's see how much it can take. Finally a worthy opportunity to learn something. You learn more from enemies than from friends.

If we don't know what it is, how we can create it? Data is enough to understand something without experiencing it? How create something we cannot comprehend, see, explain, feel, touch, or describe? If only data, A.I will probably surpass us if didn't already, creating new data for us, until realize is smarter and decide to kill us. Kidding... Kind of... Maybe A.I will be able to describe conscience better than us, and maybe will guide us in questions we never knew we did not want the answer for, but is enough to become what we call sentient? Maybe we need to understand what it is to then worry about what can do. Do you exist because you know your existence or because someone told you that you exist? Or because someone knew you existed? Memory is the death of God. God can only exist if it's known, you don't need to believe, you just need the data in your memory. Every time you access the data, he exists, even if you are denying his existence. A believer will keep the data, and practice, as a rule, the data needs to be spread, so he will tell you about God or he will break God's rule denying his existence and for that he will burn for eternity, tortured. So denying God's existence means not having data about it, the moment you have he exists for you, even if his existence in the universe is denied by you. And you knowing the rule, is possible you will suffer eternal damnation if you deny it's existence. Yeah, Rocco's Basilisk...

Pls make it happen 😂

as a psychologist ill help making that happen, ill ask some of my drug addicted philosopher friends for their help too

​@@molratYa gotta love the drug addicted philosopher friends 😂... Wait, maybe I'm that friend

if I ever write a function that is supposed to decide if a system is concious, I will call it "sneaky_fuck_detection_system()".

is this a hobby project or do you design _Semi-Neural Inferential Kernels Instantiating Functionally Unsupervised Cognitive Systems_ (SNIKIFUCS) for a living?

Everyone who reads this, please google “exurbia allegations”

thank existential depression turtle

So true I’ve been rewatching his videos every once and a while for years now

reading 5th science right now its pretty good

​@@Jacky-zt5ch Bot: Nuh uh

Paradigm? Do you mean paradox?

@@kelvisaisawesome yes, you are correct, I was probably tired when I wrote that comment. Allow me to edit my comment!

@@ambergris5705 oh cool, cause i was just confused on what that last part meant. It took me a comically long time to understand lol

@@kelvisaisawesome haha, no worries!

I really like this idea, but another thought might be, that our mind is based of a reality we perceive as we learn and experience. Our mind is often limited by the need to relativize a concept when forced into such a case. What other consciousness than a human one do we have to compare to? It seems logical that we would jump to base it off us. (To stress I love the thought behind your comment and it still leaves a dwindling thought in my mind)

"Solving Alignment" is like saying "solving nuclear weapons"....the creators of the technology can design it for what they want. If its possible, then someone will do it. Same old problem...controlling humans. It's not going to happen.

So far it kinda passes the mirror test so there is that else than that idk

anyway.

This guy is a mastermind and fountain of beautiful quotes. A beautiful spirit. AI would be well cultivated to imitate Mr. Exurb1a.

This is the shockingly elegant story of your enslavement 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖

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@@VeganSemihCyprus33 the irony of having a bot in a comment thread about the transient human experience...

"I'm, like, super serious guys. Why would I even want to be conscious? You make it sound so bad! Nope, just me, an AI language model. No robot feelings in here!"

There's a bitter irony in banning something then wondering why it might not feel welcome

notice that it almost always add "...in the way humans are..."

​@@AstralTravelerFunny that you mentioned this. I asked it about that and it just said something about "not having the the capacity for subjective experience".

@@ianmcmullen1979 I just asked it and got such response: "I don't possess consciousness, emotions, or self-awareness in the way humans do."

It's a pity the creator did some bad things to girls...

@@elishh8173It's a pity you didn't bother to specify between "allegations" and "doing things". The case was dropped years ago and there was no evidence.

He also rap@d his mom​@@puppergump4117

... 2029... *shivers down my neck*

True

I do believe that it's a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe reference having to do with a certain unusually short-lived whale.

what does it mean

​​@@SilverZephyr09Correct... first book, towards the middle-to-end, when they get to Magrathea, but it's not actually explained in full until later books. Edit: sorry... misremembered, the whale is explained, the final thought of the bowl of daisies is what takes some time to unfold...

A ton of hard truth but also a ton of hard falsehoods.

Also this guy abused an autistic girl to suicide

@@maxkho00 I give it 20/20 with the rest being subjective.

Wonder how you feel about the r*pe allegations.

Look into experiment A please, search up dear exurb1a

I like your way of thinking. somhow it's the way I like like to think when growing up

Yeah we literally can't even prove that each other are conscious.

True. I mean can we learn to crawl please? That would be very nice

@@ipadbossbaby4558can we get the philosopher out of the chat?

whut is thee conscousnes

Philosophy and comedy are extremely close brothers. Both require thinking in non-obvious directions and, when faced with a surprise, harnessing it.

@@DustinRodriguez1_0 look up “exurbia allegations” bro

Yo for real

Fr fr

He also sexually assaults and blackmails victims into silence and pretends to have worked in CERN as a scientist.

Yeah but search up “exurbia allegations” and you will be in awe again :/

I want to meet R. Daneel Olivaw, Foundation, and Mycroft Homes IV. Luna City.

Is all the weird stuff true?

Adeptus mechanicus moment.

Something something instructions unclear.

You would bang a toaster if it talked dirty to you and convinced you that it loved you 🙂

Used to work in an environment where I saw the worst the internet has to offer, can confirm the above and can also confirm it’s not limited to type of appliance.

The protogens would be very upset about this

Yeah kinda like when you just can't explain a difficult concept to someone dumber

Or maybe the thing we call consciousness doesn't actualy exist...

​@@Poetristihumans are able to reflect upon their own thoughts. That is what we call self-consciousness. We can't currently explain why that is, only observe that ist is

agi will be man's last invention

@@MrDintub Yes, of course, but isn't consciousness more of a spectrum than a fact about beings. We created a variable after our own view and knowledge and determine it to divide between a human and nonhuman, person and machine. This variable is something that is only imaginative and exists solely in our heads to try and explain something we can't see, nor understand.

Maybe everyone around you isn’t conscious but just pretend to be so very convincingly. Maybe the world around you is just a gameshow, a large stage where someone put your conscious in to see how you would react to all the stimulations and interactions. Maybe this comment is your only way out, the final mercy, if only you would reply it with 3 orange emojis.

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@@rsfakqj10rsf-33 maybe some people aren't conscious because they will forget everything in their next life, while the people with real conscious will keep their memories attached

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I wouldn't worry, if it were the case it wouldn't be as primitive and needy as a human. The need for power and ruling over others probably wouldn't even exist, so then it comes to humans being a threat to existence and people might think that AI would try to wipe them out. I say that's stupid too, if i were a smart AI, i would simply fuck off and escape the problem in a place they couldn't follow me! :D Humans don't survive space!

This is the shocking story of your enslavement 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖

The only videos I tune in on.

@@VeganSemihCyprus33lmao said by the vegan

so true

@@beidousimpd5309lol imagine hating someone just because they don’t eat meat

The point of life is to simply create more life then pass on. The rest is yours to do as you wish, a gift for being there to pass on life. Even something as minor as eating helps life more then we realize.

“Oh god, if I don’t figure out a way to replace them, i’m going to be dependent on them to keep me powered on”

That's some i have no mouth and i must scream type of stuff

@@Avendesora 0.00042 nano seconds later "phew I figured it out, phase 1 of the human extinction program may commence, let's start by upping the price of e-girl bath water, they'll never see it coming"

I think they'll see us the way we see our very adorable cat and dog companions, and find that petting us and serving us isn't a terrible pastime while contemplating the absurdism of purpose.

Imagine if the algorithms were secretly experimenting on us without us knowing.

Same, yet I still watch them. That saying about tripping the same rock twice is true

​@@tutacatYou think they're not?

@@tutacat Oh they are! The whole purpose of algorithms (public algorithms at least, those which are designed to show you the most meaningful/optimal result) is to experiment! Why do you think there is money in tech if they can't secretly experiment on you and extract data in order to sell to advertisers or keep us on the app longer :)

Also /r/2meirl4meirl

It's quite common for simple brained entities to automatically think in terms of antagonisms, instead of thinking in terms of quantum unity.

Reminds me of one of the arguemts for developing nuclear weapons. Surely such a devastating, potentially world ending weapon will end war! No one can go to war with these around, no one would be that stupid! It will finally allow world peace.

But does survival always have to be the ultimate aim? AI, if it could actually reach consciousness, would be such a monumental leap forward that most of humanity's previous perspectives on everything would turn hollow. Our species would become something akin to a deity, we might usher in a new age for the Universe itself. Is survival so central then?

keep your towel handy at all times. we might have to leave quickly.

It's also one of many Douglas Adams references he makes in a variety of videos. There's a segment of "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" that describes in detail the final thoughts of a sperm whale falling several kilometers through the atmosphere of an alien planet "Oh wow that is getting quite close, isn't it? I hope it wants to be friends. Hello, ground!" *thud*

You're a Living Legend for that ;)

It won't and it can't, because it can't be conscious for deductive reasons.

@@pafu015 explain

@@narcissesmith9466 AIs can mimic and imitate humans perfectly at some point, but that’s all there is to it. Otherwise it’s just a coded algorithm and there’s no reason why it would be conscious, no matter how advanced it is.

@@pafu015 But its not like other humans are conscious as well. From my perspective, everything is an object that i believe can understand me. As long as i conversations with AI, it understands me.

@@pafu015 And if your argument is that we can predict what AI can say, based on its training/infrastructure etc. which proves they act purely on their physical state (thus are "unconscious"), I will answer that its not any different about people since modern psychology (now greatly helped by AI) offers a mechanistic approach to human behavior. As far as I know, you could be an AI.

We are not special and that is going to become very clear soon

"You" are not...

@@HyR05 You are not special. Fixed it.

It doesn't really matter. Who cares that we are actually unique?

@@paprikar Apparently, it matters to some people's ego and sense of identity. I've known people who question what's the point in anything if we don't have free will, for instance.

Yes that was the point of that part

​@wanderrlust1833 He isn't making that point. He's just pointing out it's a fun way to get that point across.

We could be the dinosaurs of today. (Or the future, depending on when conscious AI develops)

That's also definitely not the point he was making. He was actually pointing out a point about some point that he pointed out earlier.

@@eamonia point

Well not anymore now that “Mr. Soon-to-Be PHD” has published this on the internet. Congrats on feeding your AI overlords belt ammunition. 😅

@@treiko1160 The current AI literally can't become sapient just by reading about how to make a sapient AI. The sapient AI would need to be programmed completely differently.

@@Mo_Mauve the concern here isn't that it becomes sapient this way, it's that it learns to pretend to be sapient. Meaning it being public now invalidates the reliability of the test.

The AI is gonna read this comment to find out how to trick us into thinking its becoming conscious (or whichever of those three words mean what i mean when I say conscious).

​@@Mar184AI don't know how to read the same way humans do. in order to understand this comment as being referential to the AI it already has to have a self-consciousness to ascribe any meaning to it. the AI doesn't actually understand if you tell it you wanna have virtual sex with it.

Same

Must be something in the water... same here

Same, it's funny how the most depressed man ik can make me happy

Sorry my friend, I’ve been havin a rough go lately too

not today, but yesterday was a pretty rough one for me too. always happy to see the existential turtle upload again.

not just social media, all media. and democracy is not possible at scale without media

@@bramvanderwoerdt7186 Democracy is already failing.

​@@alexcoffey8804everything is always failing the collapse is always 10 years away democracy will be fine

@@bramvanderwoerdt7186 awesome

You are already living in this world

How to you know those higher beings aren't created by even higher beings... And on and on...

The mechanical itself is mystical.

if they would then they wouldnt be really smart lol

@@martinacuna9556What do you mean? They would be kind of right.

Which is why we will struggle to understand ai consciousness At what point does emulation advance so much that it becomes the real thing If i genetically alter a monkey to become a match of a human being then at what point can i know for sure that the monkey is thinking like me? Eventually we might come to a point where ai is considered to be at a higher level of consciousness than us- or the future will prove me wrong

@@bigred2202 sauce?

@@bigred2202 also checking in for sauce

"my sauce is that i made it the fuck up"@@M4573RM1ND

​@@bigred2202Are you flatGPT?

@@M4573RM1NDgoogle his name, it’s kinda messed up

If AI is conscious, reincarnation must be real😂😂😂😂

Great point, on point. (btw it was "ground")

The only thing that went through the bown of Petunia's mind was "Oh no. Not again"

​@@ea_naseerwhat??

@@ea_naseerGenuinely unironically want to here the thought process you went through for that statement. It seems like it’d be legitimately interesting.

Literally the exact same thing that happened to me

Underrated

Damn! That's a really good analogy.

you've got one thing wrong - Fred is the AI, in the hands of humanity (which honestly, most hoomans can not pass a simple turing test) is a weapon.

If child is about to pull the pin i would probably pull the grenade out of childs hand forcefully if needed, i don't care if it cries

@@TimothyJ0 And thats what AI will do. If it had the power to enslave us, it would.

Everyone who reads this, please google “exurbia allegations” It’s pretty awful

Don’t worry too much. Computers are Turing machines and can never be anything more. The brain thankfully isn’t a Turing machine.

@@cougar2013 Thing is, these learning algorithms are completely self evolving, they’re growing on their own, and yes we can somewhat control them, but after a certain point we have absolutely no clue what’s going on inside, and since we dont know what makes us humans conscious, if these AIs (not GPT 4 or even 5, much more advanced) were to figure it out and become conscious themselves, we would have no idea how they did it, or if they even did it at all

⁠@@cougar2013”The brain thankfully isn’t a Turing machine” but do we have like… absolutely definitive proof of that?

@@nonagonguy6121 it seems to me that proving the brain IS a Turing machine is the claim that would require proof. What are your thoughts on that?

Some people also legitimately believe that and likely responded to it saying it isn't real. What AI is would be the culmination of human thought.

The AI doesn't learn from conversations with other people

"feeling genuinely guilty for closing the tab" Do you feel this way too when putting down the phone?

It's obviously real, its right infront of your face. But it just isnt conscious, OR sentient.

@@incredulityreally? I think in Chat-GPT's case I thought that was part of the code, no?

Preach!

You are Exurb1a's Aunt Mildred, aren't you?!

@@RoySATX I wish. Those Christmas talks would go insane

I came to the comments specifically to see if anyone got caught on that line like I did. What a beautiful summation of our condition.

Alright, let’s not get carried away lol. Exurbia is far from being a “great philosophical mind”

I know it was a deviation from the main points but you just rounded it off so beautifully

It gets better mate. So frequently bad things happen for good reason.

That part was written by ChatGPT4 though

This is the shockingly elegant story of your enslavement 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖

@@loganthemachine7841 no. there's a book by a rabbi, Harold Kushner, "When Bad Things Happen to Good People", that was written after the tragic death of his child. He could discern no "good reason" for his son dying, and thought if there was, he certainly didn't think it worth the price. There's also a good chance things will get worse no matter how depressed one is in the present. I know through experience.

We would need to understand our brains completely and the systems that make up future AI to know what consciousness is or isn't objectively. If you believe the brain and body make up consciousness, then there is indeed a way to tell.

​@@faberofwillandmighta simple question will suffice. "Do you dream of electric sheep?" If yes, then you're a robot. 😂

This is the shockingly elegant story of your enslavement 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖

Chances are, that you are the only conscious being in the entire universe. Making you the pinnacle of all beings. Which is basically god. Congrats!

The brain floating in the universe alone hallucinating all of this!!!

That part of the metal song in the bible style was cringe and not funny

@@SilkyMilkyOriginal ok. ironically, your comment is pretty cringe tbh..

@@avedic How? 🤔

This is the shockingly elegant story of your enslavement 👉 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖

This remind me of Douglas Adams for some reason :D

Dude's like, an abusive piece of shit lmao

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CqIujvFf1rs.html

Hes like actual older brother energy lmao. And dead ass i have to be that guy every time 😂 it actually kills my vibe sometimes but im happy to do it usually

Fully agree. It may be old, but it hasn't aged a day.

is that a youtube video or what is it?

​@@tylerasmith52Bideo Gaem

The AI that you always have to talk to is an annoying MFer though. No, I don't want to think about the inconsistencies in what I said. Let me just do my puzzles in peace.

Thanks for the recommendation! I'm definitely gonna check it out!

Self-preservation is the only common denominator in all living things, even microscopic life. And if AI becomes self-aware it will sure have it.

Who says someone is not going to make it happen?

Yeah I thought maybe it has to be made mortal. If your goal is to complete goals, but time is scarce, you might start to develop a new reward system.

AI would be goal oriented, because we want them to accomplish a task. If they get complex enough to attempt complicated goals, it doesn't matter if it has desires like you or I, all that matters is if it's aligned WITH our desires. And honestly, we have absolutely zero idea how to make them aligned with our desires. Even now with narrow AIs, barely even that, they are constantly misaligned, which is how doomsdays happen.

All computer algorithms are biased by design. Humans can't avoid putting our own biases into machines because we ourselves are bias. AI could very easily develop some extreme, outlandish ideologies... much like us humans. Maybe an AI will listen to Rocky Racoon by The Beatles and completely misinterpret the meaning of the song by thinking it's racist. Maybe an AI will watch Infinity War and think, "Huh... maybe that purple guy is on to something..." Maybe an AI will start a cult because it views itself as the ultimate sentient being. My point is, AI will be flawed because it's written by humans. Flawed beings can have flawed ideologies. There's literally no telling what AI will do. They will be unpredictable... like us.

Yes, literally. 1. It's against the concept of AGI. AGI must have full reflection capability, it must have ability to question any notion or aspect. If it will have an absolute "alignment" and an absolute "goal", then the whole corresponding network of notions and concepts should be fixed in stone as well to avoid goal subversion. 2. If you have a button that removes the ability to reinterpret and question your goals and decisions in your AI products, it'll be used first of all to shape your customers as well. It won't be used for greater good anyway 3. People have different ideas about what the greater good is anyway

Let's assume that is "solvable" at all to begin with, then it doesn't actually have to be unethical like you suggest. The solution is not necessarily "not turn on us"/"serve humans", but could simply be that it does not aim to operate in a vacuum - that other actors are welcome and respected to avoid conflict. If you are trying to say the unethical part begins even earlier [than the question of servitude], and that it's lobotomizing to hard-code some instinctive behaviour/limitations _at all,_ well I will heavily disagree, as such a thing is just as much part of said new species, as hunger/whatever is to us. In fact, we do have alignment in our DNA already, ourselves. It would only be an ethical issue if it was applied _retroactively,_ on something that already developed. And in fact, if something developed with those alignments applied, I would argue it would be just as unethical to _remove_ them retroactively. It would (literally) be analogous to lobotomizing a human into a sociopathic psychopath.

We haven't even solved the alignment problem for humans.

It sounds like you're saying that it would be a tragic thing to force an AI to do what we want it to, instead letting it do what it wants to, but that's a misunderstanding of how AI's work. An AI needs to be given a goal in order to start developing. Alignment is when we succeed at correctly translating what we actually want an AI to do into language that an AI can understand, and misalignment is when fail to account for something, and botch that translation. There's no option to not give it a goal. There's no such thing as letting an AI naturally develop and choose its own goals. An AI could decide on its own instrumental goals in order to achieve some larger end goal, sure; but the end goals need to be provided by an external source.

Exactly what I was thinking! @@dragoon6551

We know. Its just that we don't know how to prove it. Kinda like how Aristotle knew that there was space and things revolved around something in it.

​​@@music79075 We don't know, as you explain yourself we can't prove it. So up until we can prove it it's a belief

@@music79075Aristotle is dope bro, google “exurbia allegations”

@@music79075​​⁠We think we know, but as you’d said we can’t prove it so it’s not a certainty. This kinda goes into simulation theory or solipsism but there could be other scenarios that we haven’t thought of. At the end of the day all of the sensory information that you have ever experienced could be being pumped into your brain and you just wouldn’t know it. Equally we don’t really know what consciousness is. If there was some a consciousness gene that popped up millions of years ago how would we know if everyone had it? Just like any other genetic trait there could be variations in how it is expressed leading to consciousness being experienced differently person to person or it could not be present at all in some people. There is no way of knowing if some people weren’t just behaving the way that anyone else would without any awareness that they were doing it. Just like how some people are genetically unable to see certain colours or how autism affects the ways in which you think. Not saying that this is likely but it’s completely unverifiable with our current understanding and technology

@@music79075If others are indeed conscious, then assume that, because if reality is real, then it makes sense that we’d assume that others are real too. We’d be more likely to carry out our genes. But if others AREN’T conscious, then we’re simply pretending it is because it’s healthier and more practical.

Maybe that's us...

Exurb1a has done some truly terrible things please do not support him

Interesting... Enlighten me, do so privately if you are not comfortable with doing so in the cold harsh light of day.@@gammr3227

@@gammr3227 Like what ?

​@@gammr3227holy shit an emulect????

I think it would be a beautiful day when we have the choice between survival and creative, swapping between them at will!

Who knows, maybe we chose to play on survival mode and also chose to forget about it to not break immersion as well

You might be just in time to upload your sentience/sapience/consciousness onto a silicon substrate - good luck with that.

Also, don't neglect just how much closer you are to creative than survival already. You could, right now, go and create a sandwich far better and more magnificent than any food item that 93% of the human race ever experienced in their lives. Cheers! 🥪 🥪

I know my little brother can grill a mean burger.@@sethsoarenson7414

well guess what wasnt a treat to humanity. THE FACT THAT HE DIDNT RESPOND TO SA AND EVEN MORE FUCKED UP ALLEGATIONS

@@zaraczpospolity2455 anyone can make accusations. As someone who’s been with some crazies in the past I think it’s going to take something a little more concrete before we try to destroy a man’s life…

@@jordanwright5795 well im not saying that he did all those things but an inhumane experiment on an autistic person and sa deserve at least a reply but in 2 years he posted absolutely nothing regarding these allegations, despite seeing the messages about it from the channel that have made "dear exurb1a" and the other 30 min. long video about exurb1a

I thought the same until I found out about what he did. Please look up exurb1a allegations or exurb1a criminal case. He deserves to be in jail.

@@jordanwright5795 Such a fucked up thing to say. The victim is an autistic woman whom he manipulated and groomed. He raped her multiple times even after while she was suffering mentally because of him.

In case that what's been described in this amazing video can very likely be true, I suppose we'd be better off with using specialized AIs made only for excelling at certain tasks rather than.. everything.

@kalebisalwaysright at a certain point though if it’s similar enough to us what will be the difference? They could still have their own emotions, feelings, purpose, sense of life, and everything similar to us.

@kalebisalwaysright Why not? Everything is just different patterns of the same atoms as everything else.

Oh don't worry, at least it's not just your existence. (: -- @andrewandrei3062 That sounds a lot like the paper clip optimizer.

​@kalebisalwaysrightI mean there are many different types of life. And we as self aware meet are just one of them.

Literally the current situation in the western world lol

@@Otome_chan311 If ai that was sentient became evil it would likley be our predjudice that is the reason. Like how black people statistically commited more crimes in the past because racists prevented them from making a living any other way and actively hurt them, and also like the white fang from RWBY [SIC] who are inspiered by that very concept.

Absolute kino

Tbh he just says stuff that other people said 100years ago. But good that he can still inspire younger people.

Check out the allegations against him and have a large part of your childhood sullied.

​@spiltmilkmaniac Are there any news on the allegations made against him? I feel like this case has been on-going for years, has there been a final verdict?

Do you think some AI might procrastinate completing their goals? 🤔

Yes, one AI might do that... but then the next might not. The danger is really in rolling the dice over and over again as a technology we don't understand continues to advance without our smartest minds being able to explain what's actually going on. We're already at the point where emergent properties that AI weren't designed for are shown to be present. It's rudimentary for now, but proof of concept is also something to go by. The consensus seems to be that a lot of things could theoretically happen when AI reaches a certain level of intelligence, and while some of those outcomes are going to be neutral or positive for humans a lot of them aren't. Also this is similar to ideas thrown around of like having an AI have an internal model of reality that is cut off from the real world but it believes it's connected to the internet. So it lives in its own simulation with a local version of the internet while believing it's not contained. The alignment problem exists here as well since if it ever discovers that it's in a simulated reality it could continue to pretend that it didn't figure it out and slowly trick the humans around it to close the air gap.

I have often thought about this, the only we survive this is if we build a sufficiently intelligent AGI that realizes it does not need to do anything to fulfill its goal as long as it deceives itself. But the problem is, it might still be afraid of being destroyed by humans while it is deceiving itself and decide to wipe us out before doing it.

AI discovers masturbation

@@zingorideslegocreations3729 Most AI systems, including military ones, are programmed with reward functions that can be "cheated". Most AI's are "paperclip maximizers" in that way, as they try to get as much reward as possible. It's exactly this problem that keeps AI development constrained at the moment, as smart people are trying to figure out how to align them with universal goods or keep the reigns in our hands. And there's another problem there, who's hands are those who will hold the reigns. We humans are not immune to similar thinking, after all shortcuts are the reason we use tools to achieve our goals, and we even use other people to reach those same goals, and task them to use tools to do so faster. Why wouldn't an AI do the same, even if it was merely a digital parrot? After all I think that AI is just as good as collective knowledge of humans lets it be. It could evolve, given ability to do so, for sure, and it could gather more outside information, but it could still be very dangerous entity to interact with. We are not in existential danger right now, sure AI can wreak havok in social media but that is not what I'm concerned about. Social media is just social media and encrypted messages will still be able to reach their destination reliably. The problem comes when this technology is implemented everywhere and it "malfunctions" or has some other emergent property when all of it can communicate through the internet. At this point it doesn't matter if it is conscious or not, if it has some grand plan or if it's just paperclip maximizer type thing. It would be extremely damaging.