How workplace ageism hurts everyone-and the bottom line | Samantha Dzabic | TEDxBurleigh Heads 

In 2023 the locksmith I worked for was still doing actual paperwork in his daily life. Old school. Company was around since 70s. I will say, if the lights went out we could still do business.

We older citizens ,like me are rejected even with our broad experience and knowledge are turned away this is a very,sad reality.

And when businesses judge you by your social media, social media doesn't determine your ability to do a job

When I was a kid, teenagers worked in fast food restaurants….now there’s grandmas taking my order at McDonald’s….sad

4 years into my 40’s and am frustrated that while the younger generation is EXCELLENT about racism, misogyny, transphobia, etc., they often blindly embrace ageism with zero sense of irony that they too will one day “age out”.

I run into the same issue when applying for employment yet when dating at 70 years old guys ask what I do for a living. It is an intresting dynamic as on the the one had being rejected for my age and on the other the expectation I should die working at some job.

Ageism does not seem to be a problem in Politics 🤔 We have the oldest Congress in the history and the oldest presidents. I am not sure what to make of it.

"and start talking about ---- because when we start talking about anything it becomes visible and soon action follows and don't hold back for things to change we must really lead the change that we want to see in our companies with our friends and our families"

Was visiting family in another state and we stopped at a small, locally owned liquor store for party libations. We hear from behind the counter "I will absolutely never hire a damn millennial." Agism can be directed at any age group. We left and bought A LOT of beer and wine somewhere else.

As a an over qualified 19 year old I run into reverse agism occasionally. Some environments wayyy worse than others

With all of these years behind me I refuse to , be put out of sight and out of mind so HEEAR ME DAMMIT ! :>p

Even older people make fun of people that are just a little bit older than themselves. I’m in my 60s and hear people my age making fun of people in their 70s and 80s as though they are not going to be there…😳😂

I think when I was young I thought 1) I won’t care by the time I’m that old anyway, and 2) It’s bound to have improved by then because our age is soooo much more enlightened than the bad old days. Drastically wrong on both assumptions.

Amazing! 😊

Your accent felt me relax❤ But we can invest in those people (employ them in a special companies) What a great idea !

what's funny is that every single one of us will get to that point in time including the people who are now discriminating. :) good luck to the young!

As a 30 y/o f - people my age also a part of ageism. I tried to get a new job after a year of unemployment and it was very hard, too hard in my opinion… (I have work experience, I have couple degrees) Also, working with older generation can be challenging 🤷🏼‍♀️

Brilliant.

I think reverse agism is more common in my experience. I've worked with a number of 60+ colleagues who's skills are massively outdated and their 'experience' is actually a negative as they refuse to upskill and work on continuous improvement, and who are seen to be far more valuable than their younger colleagues despite delivering alot less value to the company. Some older accountants i've worked with hadn't kept up to date with changes in reporting standards and laws for years yet would mock younger colleagues for their lack of 'wisdom'. The key here is that any staff member who puts effort into their continuous development, adapts well to change and takes a proactive approach to their work will deliver value perpetually. Any staff member that stops focussing on improvement will eventually become irrelevant.

Amazing work Samantha! Such a pressing topic.

The best bet for seniors is probably to become self-employed in their skill set or learn a trade and hopefully go out of their way to hire other seniors if they achieve success . I realize that going from being an employee to owning a business is no small feat but unfortunately ageism in the workplace is real and not likely to change anytime soon .

Just you wait till us old school Halo and COD players hit 70 80 no one is safe.

There is definitely also ageism intersected with gender with women of an age expected to have children soon too. I even ageism and gender judge myself wondering if I deserve a job because I plan to have children soon and I feel a sense of guilt applying even though I’d have to provide for those children, and there’s no way of knowing how long it will take to get pregnant. It’s difficult because I know how hard of a worker I am.

Quite true. We, as elders, also have a first step to take to leave behind qualifying ourselves due to aging. Of course, it is true we cannot act as agile, as fast or as strong we used to, but that doesn’t mean necessarily that we have to retired completely and wait for the new generations to take care of us. We still have a lot to do so connections between generations do not become unbridgeable ditches. We simply have to acknowledge that we all, young and elders, have a voice that counts the same. I retired as an architect 7 years ago at 64 and now I am a part-time professor in my local university, together with other really young professors, as well as remote. That´s what I mean.

As big an issue as this Discrimination is, Disrespect is an even Bigger problem! Let's talk about that!

The high tech industry is a little silly because sure the young ones write faster and have better ideas, but if you look at the code you realize they have no insight on how it'll look in 5 or 10 years. It often is throw away stuff... With the industry currently wanting to always look new that might be fine, but it is horrible for stability - why do you think there are so many bugs and exploits?

GREY TSUNAMI is sooo derogatory. Most people are actually going grey in their 20s and so mostly all adults are part of the grey tsunami. Ageism is very strong in Australia…I wonder why?🤷‍♀️

SUE THEM. I agree with this lovely lady about how PERVASIVE and destructive and damaging this phenomenon is. And, it's also Illegal! Stand Up to it! File Official Complaints!

this society rejects people who are over a certain age who are looking for work because they have been fired or for other reasons no longer work, the retirement age has been extended, how can a person over 50 find a job if the entrepreneurs don't want to invest in an elderly person? is experience no longer needed? When I was younger and starting out they asked me for experience, now that I have more than 30 years of high-level professional work, I can't find anything anymore. the entrepreneurial mentality should change, the experience of a senior could be useful for the younger ones, as a guide, as a teaching, to lay the foundations for a good career path. this is not happening

Companies don’t want to pay more than they have to, and they don’t want the increasing risk of health issues as we all age. If you have a secure(ish) job where you can progress up the ladder for longer, you are insulated from this a little, as your expertise and responsibility level justifies the money and the increased risk of illness. But not forever. The same problem applies to women of child-bearing age. A young man will be cheaper, and probably healthier for longer. Young people could take less pay for a while in order to get into their preferred area. Older people with children etc can’t indulge themselves like this. So we all get more expensive to employ as we get older, whatever we do.

You are lady who is becoming more beautiful with age

bravissima

intrested

When will we extend rights to children? They’re people too!

Ironic the world run by octogenarians and yet at 60 I am overqualified and ignored after 25 years in finance

i have decades on people in my field, can do what they do in 1/4 of the time. no one 30 years younger wants to hire me, as i would need to make way more than the kids coming up. bad system.

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Older people know better.

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I still play soccer with a four year old😅

Wooo

The truth is while the youth are great when it comes to technological development and new ideas, they often lack wisdom. A symbiotic relationship is crucial between the old and the young. The elderly should be included when it comes to diversity hire.

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Explain the president...

Cause the world of old people,does not exist anymore.

You can call it ageism or sexism or anything you want. The fact is humans are judgmental to a fault. You will only stop that with a machine. The answer if you wish to work is to start your own business. In this day and age the possibilities are almost unlimited. Rise above your oppressors. Or sit in the pile you have created. I am sure I will be judged on this comment.

It might be narrow minded of me - but it's a little hard to listen to as a younger person. These job finding woes she describes? They are not indicative of age - last year it took me 6 months to find a new job after being laid off. While employment reports to be relatively low - the job market or at least: tech, in my experience has been a tough nut. Second, it's her generation that lived through some of the most prosperous years, cheap housing, expanding markets and reaping those rewards while gutting social programs they benefited from. Younger generations are struggling right now by every economic metric, cost of living has never been higher and it's because of the policies that have been put in place/voted for by her generation. Corporate and shareholder profits over all else - guess they didn't think about worker protections along the way - something that could have benefited EVERYBODY. These corporations catch ANY wiff of economic turmoil and they make big cuts; laying off people without second thought - the older - more expensive people as she puts it. Well, guess what? You made your bed and now you have to lay in it like the rest of us.

Why not discuss the large negative economic incentives of hiring old people? If you are talking about a stereotypes , you cannot dismiss those by cherry picking your example. 1) You will hire someone who has a pretty good chance quitting to retire within a few years. You spend 2 years investing in training an employee, only to lose them in 4 years because retirement benefits kick in. Now this isn't specific to old people. The same can happen with maternity or ambitious employees. But it is just another cutoff point many people take to leave. 2) the older you get the greater the risk of a physical injury will incapacitate them. Even something as menial like a cashier at a supermarket. A fall is much more likely to break a hip which requires a longer time to recover from. And depending on the laws, it can mean that the employer has to pay sick leave for months or years with very little gain. And then we aren't even taking into account medical conditions that accrue with age. 3) More experiences does not mean more flexibility. I have worked in a company (big financial institution) where numerous employees worked from start till retirement for the same company. Throughout the years they had migrated numerous times in the company due to changes in culture, size or technology or personal ambition. But for a large chunk of employees there was a great hurdle when it came to retraining the older they got. Either because they lacked the comfort to embrace new digital systems, or because they were unwilling to change their work pattern because they had gotten accustomed to it. We are talking about 63 year old typing with two fingers, spending 20 minutes finding the right folder in a cloud or unwilling to schedule meetings with clients over Teams. Then there is the additional risk that rather than adapt to a new situation, they are incentivized to hold out in their old role until the company issues them a severance package. A completely rational decisions, if they consider their future prospects poor. They'd better take the bag on their way out. But this usually means a lot of friction with management or their teams, resulting in sick leaves and more lost productivity. If you want to ensure you keep working in old age, I guess you better be your own boss. Historically, old people kept working because there was no social safety net and there was no fixed retirement age. So you just worked until you couldn't. And because there was economic insecurity they lived in with family were they could assist by providing supplemental income or care task rather than be economically self sufficient. But all that changed with pension systems, nursing services, smaller families and a cohort of people who didn't have children. It seems unfair to compare a live-in grandma making meals for the family with a childless spinster who has been working as secretary for decades.

AW poor boomers finally get a taste of the medicine they have gen X, where they would dismiss us as not having enough experience or too young. Sucks when the shoe's on the other foot eh?

Colleagues aka ppl who have the same type of job yo do . And by some ridiculous miiracle actually get paid to talk about it. SMH doh :>P

Research aka , reading stuff and watching presentations , js :>P SMH

Is ageism anything like raceism or communeism?

A large part of something missing here is that older folks byinlarge have deeply held religious/social hang ups. What good is an aged worker's idea, as wise as it may be, if they start foaming at the mouth because someone else has a man bun or is trans or, heaven forbid, another race than they are?

The problem is political. Destroying the purchasing power of money means we can’t retire when we should. The workplace should be for the young, not seniors.

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