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Here is a question from one of our subscribers. How would you answer this?
“I really like your Videos and they are really informative for someone that just started to work in a county Jail. My question would be how you would address the situation, because I'm not sure if my way is the right way. I am overweight so i get allot of comments from inmates when I'm doing my rounds. My approach is to ignore the comments as long as they are not used when I'm giving a direct order to a Inmate. So on rounds i just ignore comments concerning my weight but lets say its count time or something and i give a direct order to sit on the bung or stand against the wall, if a inmate would make a comment about my weight i would address the disrespect. I hope you understand what I'm trying to explain. Is this a good way or should i handle it differently. My thinking about this is, that if i react every time I'm doing a round then i never get done and they see that there's a way to get to me. For me the comments are nothing that concern me, I been overweight all my life and heard every remark so it doesn't bother me. Just wanted to see if I'm on the wrong track.
Thanks for the answer and keep up the great channel.

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@tmfo125 5 лет назад

I have experienced a little of the same. I started of being called "slim". I didnt do anything about it. As my reutation grew, my name evolved to "slim shady', because Sgt.Olson will be really friendly to the inmates and then write them a case with a smile on his face. I stopped yelling and started writing. The guys there understood that I know they know the rules and if they are broken, a case follows. I dont have to say anything to anybody until its served and investigated. Thats the power you have. Take from them so they will give you respect. I told my building officers to be this way and I had a huge influx of cases for a short period. As fast as it started, the cases stopped and my buildings became organized and calm. These people need swift consequences for the wrong doing in the facility. We dont punish people, we enforce the rules. Learn the inmate handbook and use it against them. That is your source of power.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Well said. I like the ending statement. We don’t punish inmates! We enforce the rules.

@StoicObserverS 4 года назад

Absolutely fantastic advice!!

@shericontrary2535 4 года назад

my nickname was Scary Sheri ha ha ah

@HeadsUpSnGGuY 3 года назад

This scenario in my opinion would be a lot tougher to handle if you are a rookie officer, because I took a lot of time to "find my voice" during my rookie year. I would let some disrespectful comments slide because I felt that was the way to get inmates to like and respect me by showing them that I'm not hurt by them. As I wrapped up my first year back in November I learned that the opposite is true. Inmates actually respect you more when you nip any disrespect in the bud as soon as it happens. Nowadays when an inmate gets out of line with me, I immediately call them out on it. I will walk up to them and tell them to follow me (if it was said in the dayroom) and pull them away from their buddies. I'll tell them straight out that this behavior is not going to fly with me and if it continues then documentation will follow. Most inmates just shrivel up when they are called out on disrespect and won't do it again afterwards.

@jasoncunningham176 5 лет назад

I have an advantage of being a supervisor. I normally say something like "Really? I do everything I can to help you guys with what you need, then you want to turn around and disrespect me?". After a conversation they Normally end up apologizing. They get disrespectful normally out of frustration. If you just listen to them it normally de-escalates things

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Good point. That’s why I mentioned those extreme moments. In this case, it looks like they’re just disrespecting him just to do it.

@InsaneGilligan Год назад

I work in canteen and I agree, I give them a few moments to speak sometimes and depending on the level of disrespect I may let them walk away if they are. I will usually let them know I took what they said as disrespect and if they are receptive I will usually let it go. I let them know clearly what will happen if they continue, I don't get mad, I let them know the choice is theirs. If they continue and I have to deal with the inmate on a regular basis I may write them up. I have and I haven't. I don't know there is one way it depends on the inmate and the circumstances. Like you said sometimes if you listen their beef isn't with you they are just venting. But if they are posturing and advancing toward you then that is behavior that could lead to violence and I try to write those up on general principle. I've had inmates yell across the yard "were gonna drop you on your head!" But I couldn't see who it was, it was night pill line and I was leaving the yard. Surprisingly I've had very little overt disrespect, like calling me racial slurs and such. Gemeral dissatisfaction with services is common. Lots of refusals to follow direct orders which is disrespectful in nature. Sometimes you have no choice but to hit your alarm and put the yard down. If theres a fence between you that helps. one time an inmate worker mocked my voice and was repeating things I had said and I for sure wrote him up and tried to fire him but they made him come back to work 🤨. One time an inmate farted in my direction and I didn't write him up I regret that! One time while running the line an inmate was having a mental health crisis and was yelling "I'm 13th on the list?! That's 13 of your family that's gonna go!" Sounds scary but i actually didn't think he really wanted to kill 13 of my family, I wanted to say "shit dude I have a small family there's like 8 of us!" I wrote that up but not as a rule violation as an informational chrono. So I guess that is always an option to submit the informational chrono so it's on the inmates file if the behavior escalates and the inmate doesn't necessarily know. I'd say the golden rule always applies, treat people the way you want to be treated treat inmates woth dignity and never match their disrespect. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do I've heard the housing units are wild especially level 4 mental health buildings.

@bosskitty630 4 года назад

I had that problem 1 time in my career of being a supervisor. I handled it accordingly. This night was a Thursday night, on Friday nights they may be out in up late. Well I came in Friday night and went into the quad in called a meeting explaining to the inmates how I as a woman and Sgt/ Officer or my officers will not tolerate any disrespect. Next I told them this will be an early night. No tv , no dayroom privileges, and no talking , lights are now off and we will try it again tomorrow night. This was an open bay dorm. But after this I had mad respect from the inmates. Oh in I DID NOT HAVE TO USE PROFANITY JUST SIMPLE RESPECTFUL AND GETTING STRAIGHT TO THE POINT WITH ASSERTIVENESS.

@russhamilton3800 5 лет назад

Anthony you mentioned creative writing and that is part of where knowing the book is important. We could write a guy for say disrespect which was never going to carry any weight but if it rose to a certain level it was possible to write it as delaying a peace officer in the performance of their duties, a much more serious charge. The key is KNOWING the elements that prove a paricular rules violation.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Russ Hamilton well said. That is why we need to know the rules just as good as the inmates, if not, better

@ckez4724 5 лет назад

Very simple. Like gang said. Creative writing. When he interrupts your count. Give verbal direction to the inmate to stop! Restart your count so on camera it shows him messing with your duties. Complete your count. Then call your supervisor and explain that an inmate is interfering with your duties and he needs to go to seg for interfering with safety or security of the building. Which is effecting your ability to conduct your duties. Or shakedown that cube or that cell. But I would start with the first one.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Well said.

@davidshepherd397 4 года назад

Thats true, I have said to a unit at large, you wasted 5 minutes of my time, and that will cost you 10 min of your time (TV or Telephone for example) the stupidity stops pretty quick, if they know you are imaginative and energetic enough to get some payback.

@ziironirl1182 5 лет назад

I'm considering applying in my hometown. Thank you for your help with these videos. Big respect. Thank you all for your service!!!

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

I appreciate that. Thank you

@brotherbanks 5 лет назад

Hey bro thx for giving your wisdom, I’ve been looking for content like this for years.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

I am honored that you are watching it. Thank you for your support.

@Theking49817 4 года назад

Dude you rule!! You the man!

@JimA-pp2nu 3 года назад

yawn

@TheMorganBrothers 3 года назад

I had a similar problem. I started at 19 so it was "hey lil boi whatchu doing in here" Ignoring something semi threatening like that was my first move but it was certainly something my FTO said would get out of hand fast (yes thank god we had an fto program) i simply walked over to the next inmate who said something and said "good morning sir how are you doing you need anything?" I said it sternly with eye contact. No threat of violence, no use of force, no write up. Just showing confidence in myself and i never had another problem of that sort. Such a simple fix I fully expect to get physical or to be met with "yeah i do have a problem" but it worked out for the best

@lukewarmstanhouston9957 3 года назад

How were you able to start at 19? I'm 19 now and I'm wanting to get in corrections.

@TheMorganBrothers 3 года назад

@@lukewarmstanhouston9957 my parish sheriffs office lets you start at 18!

@Chase0370 3 года назад

Recently subscribed. Like the content.

@mnameisjefff 3 года назад

I have come to learn that context is everything and there are never any two situations that are identical. Given this there are multiple right and wrong answers. in that scenario I would pry start taking time from them, or minor writeups and make it known. Some issues you can handle face to face in a few words, others you need to make it clear and public im still new to corrections however I gained a lot of experience from the military and many of the leadership principles i learned in my 5 years there apply equally here, just modified as they are inmates, not my Marines

@arhino211 5 лет назад

Face to face always works best.. let them know that although it's okay every once and awhile to joke around, there are limits and that they need to know when that is. Always bring up that respect goes both ways.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Face to face is always a great approach.

@ckez4724 5 лет назад

Make an “example” of the “leader”

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Well said. Chop off the head

@sosuapimp8449 4 года назад

Plant a handcuff key in his cell and make him a CMC case with tubes restraint.

@davidshepherd397 5 лет назад

First and foremost, do not let that disrespect interfere with whatever you are doing at the time.Complete your count or whatever and then speak to the inmate. I have told the inmate directly, that disrespect has negative consequences. There are tons of things that I did to assist inmates in their schooling, or in problem solving, checking up on requests to the social worker etc that were not a requirement of the job, and those things depended on the level of respect given to me by the inmate. I always respected their humanity, and expected the same in return. Inmates are very connected to what they say, as the words are part of their code. "acting like a goof" vs "are a goof" as an example, so getting an inmate to apologize of show respect goes a long way. The easiest method to minimize these issues is to be a professional, say what you do and do what you say, be consistent with your levels of control and discipline, and never manipulate an inmate, nothing will kill your rep faster than that. A CO can have a good rep with the inmates which is their motivator to treat you with respect. Don't take anything an inmate does or says at face value, as they are always looking for the edge, but stand tall and follow the rules. I have for example been called an asshole by an inmate, so the next inmate who came and spoke to me I treated poorly, when asked why I was not acting like myself I said "well that guy said I was an asshole, so I'm going to live up to that" needless to say that the first inmate soon apologized, and things returned to normal. I also built in a mental deflector to disrespect, a sort of "delivery denied" approach to the inmates, and they soon learned that it was just better to respect me. I have heard them telling new inmates that I was straight and a good one to speak to, as I listened. I didn't always do things, but I was willing to listen, if they weren't breaking the rules. They knew they couldn't get around me, but they respected me.

@joshuawigley9204 4 года назад

Experienced this today. It was my second say working in the jail. I'm still in training, but my CTO is our because of covid. The inmates were being catcalling me all day and running their mouths at me. It's difficult because I don't know all the rules yet, so I don't know what I can and can't do, but I'm learning a lot. These vids help out for sure.

@TierTalk 4 года назад

Joshua Wigley thank you for watching. If you have any questions. Email me

@donspivey7939 6 месяцев назад

Couldn't agree more. Not only for a disrespectful comment to staff but also be consistent in all things corrections. If incarcerated are having to be told to sit or stand for count. Address the behavior as their requirement to abid by the rules policy and procedures and you will not tolerate their disrespect of your respect of your consistency.

@monicaperez2843 2 года назад

Even though I am not a CO, I find your advice valuable, as there are many ex-offenders who live in the senior/disabled public housing apartment complex where I live when they age out of the prison system.

@TierTalk 2 года назад

Thank you. It’s great so see that what we provide has value. I appreciate your comment Monica and I hope our videos continue to hold value for you.

@DunkinJDonut 4 года назад

Good informative video, thanks G.

@TierTalk 4 года назад

Thank you for watching

@rick-kb9rb 5 лет назад

I have always favored face to face contact de escalation if possible or peer pressure I have dealt with non Compliant inmates to psychotic inmates and even one that was trying to throw me off the tier luckily my strength held out and my partner and responding staff were there

@314tified 5 лет назад

Agreed it has to be handled situationally. We have to set to tone of expectations, limits, and discipline. After that is set in the unit/facility then we can use our discretion to handle situations and employ a variety of strategies. From talking under them to bring down the tone to questioning where the disrespect is coming from to writing a report - and other options in between.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

I agree. It looks like he will have to reestablish that sense of control And I think your route is the best way

@bzeak1121 3 года назад

Flip the Dorm. Gather some officers, and do a mass search of everyone but the leader. The rest of the dorm will start to see the connection. Or, call the leader into a private talk and as he's walking back into open pop, loudly say something like "Thanks for the info" Most of all, never loose sight of who you are or why you are there. These inmates will try to impress upon you how tough they are because of what they did to be in prison or how long they've been in prison. That's all well and good. It's cute. They were put in that situation....You chose to be there. That's how badass you are. You chose step through those gates and keep order. Keep that in your mind and in your heart and you'll do fine.

@tigerclaw8454 4 года назад

That's good advice!

@TierTalk 4 года назад

Thank you sir

@tristinwhite3089 2 года назад

Write up the “leader” once that case is ran, and they get the punishment the others 9 times out of ten stop. You regain control and they know you’re not messing around

@808ainosked 5 лет назад

Idk how county jails work. If it’s disrespect to another staff member, I would walk up to that cell and tell him to step out and shakedown that room. Take all the petty crap and ALL of it. Usually that sorts them out. If not there are other ways. But usually a nice shakedown if their room and belongings is all it takes to show you mean business. Inmates got whatever is coming to them. Also if it’s during counts, let’s them wait. If they ain’t compliant either announce it to the whole unit that you got all day to wait if they don’t wanna comply. Which in turn makes then stay in the cell longer. Usually they shut up.

@tysmith1397 5 лет назад

Great feedback!!

@Pikaroth 5 лет назад

I’m sure that the responses will change depending upon what state you work in and again then if it’s county or a state prison. Where I personally work it would not be allowed whatsoever, and the inmate would most of the time face a disciplinary report and head to confinement. Period. If the disrespect comes after something else like you mentioned AFTER having placed handcuffs on him or something similar, that’s a different story, and I agree with you fully. Assuming it happens during count itself, a time that should be dead silent with no interruptions, depending on the severity of the situation, I would possibly write two reports - one for disrespect and one for not complying with count. I would also like to make one thing clear that I cannot stress enough, and it’s something I have done from day one, and I encourage all others to do it, and if you do not do this, it’s never too late to change: creative writing is good but never, EVER lie. There is no reason to do that. If you can’t send an inmate to confinement for something, don’t invent a situation that is not there. You’ll get him on another day for something confinement worthy. Great topic, and if it’s a continual thing as this person describes, that means, yes, as you noted, it appears control has already been lost. This may also not be the best thing to say, but if inmates continually make fun of your weight, that’s unacceptable, but also for your own health you should possibly truly attempt to start losing that weight. That’s another topic, and I know many of us are not in the best shape ever, but if inmates are doing it daily, while not acceptable, perhaps for health reasons and for your family, do your best to start a lifestyle change (off topic regarding this, but I truly feel it’s important).

@nicholasf4315 5 лет назад

I completely agree that if you make the example out of one it sends the message to the rest of the unit. If it becomes an issue where it escalates and the inmate has to be lugged out to seg then so be it. When you’re doing your rounds in the future and an inmate becomes disrespectful all it will take is a little “ive lugged guys for less” and it will stop.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Great advice Nick. I agree 💯

@ckez4724 5 лет назад

If they are talking during your count! You need to make an example and box that inmate! It will hopefully show that you are in control!

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

I agree. Make an example and others Will stop

@jimaslate5194 5 лет назад

At my institution disrupting count is a lock up charge and will be written up. There are so many factors involved here. Once he gets that one inmate in check the others will most likely fall in place because let’s face it they follow the leader. My first day back on the job after knee surgery was Monday. I was on an easy building, but they still think your new. Except the ones that have been there awhile. One inmate likes to suck up to the officers, officer’s pet if you will. She will do absolutely anything you tell her to do without complaint, but she is messy with other inmates creating a disturbance. Her thought is she has us in her pocket so she is untouchable. She was dead wrong Monday. One of her victims produced letters written by the messy inmate apologizing. I shook her down to be certain she had wrote the letters. The warden was notified and this inmate was promptly removed from the program building back to general pop and it’s a rough building. The next day the atmosphere was very sedate on the building. That one action reinforced my respect.

@TheMatthew72 4 года назад

I have never had a bad word said towards me from an inmate to my face. I will be standing my ground for sure. My supervisor has said and shown that he will always have our back.

@joshkosek5757 5 лет назад

I’m having this issue with a certain inmate disrespecting me as well. I’m getting ready to head into work now, this is great advice that I will use today. Thank you for this

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Tell me how it turns out

@joshkosek5757 5 лет назад

Tier Talk Correctionsone RU-vid Channel I definitely will! I’m hoping I don’t need to today because I don’t have a lot of experience officers for back up, should something go wrong, but I’m getting tired of it and ignoring it is not making the problem go away. I need to make an example out of this guy before it starts spreading through the block

@joshkosek5757 5 лет назад

Tier Talk Correctionsone RU-vid Channel Sorry for the late reply, but I did speak with this inmate about the situation. It turns out that he was acting out towards me because of the way I reacted to something a few weeks ago. I spoke with him professionally and he came clean and the issues resolved

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

josh kosek well done.

@andyhamilton8873 5 лет назад

When I am met with this type of issue, I never fully ignore it. If the inmate makes a comment that causes the dorm or other inmates to get fired up, I put a stop to it right then and there. If the inmate is just joking around and not in a malicious way, I will fire one right back at him. I usually say something like “your locked up 24/7 with nothing better to do and that’s the best you can come up with?” Most the time they will laugh and I move on. A lot of these inmates are just trying to get that human interaction from outside people. Now I always keep it professional and never let it get out of line. I just don’t think that being a Correctional Officer requires you to never show any type of emotion. You are still human. I work with the mentality of “to get respect you must give respect.” If the inmate is being malicious, then I step it up a notch. Rather than curse them out and make a scene, I will go and use the institutional policy and procedures to my advantage. I will have the inmate as well as all others that love in his area go take a seat at the dayroom tables. I will then proceed to search their bunks/cells and take them down to the bare minimum. I will only allow them to have what they are permitted to have per their inmate manual. I will take any and all contraband. If anything I find is hoarded, changed or altered any anyway shape or form from its original condition or if it is being used for anything other then how it was originally intended to be used for I take it. Anything I can charge to their inmate account for damages caused by them I will. (Writing on the walls, destroyed issued property, ETC) This usually gets the job done. If the above way fails, I step it up a notch by making them do work in the dorm. I make them clean to my standards. Not their version of clean, but mine. If they fail to follow orders then they suffer the consequences and are taken to the hole. It’s really that simple. Also be sure to document everything that occurs as well as what you did to rectify the issue. This way when you get your shift commander involved, you have a case built against the inmate showing that you tried all other methods and that this inmate needs to have the punishment taken up a notch or two.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Wow. Excellent post. This is a great step by step guide. I like the elevation and I see at all times you are in control

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

It really is great advice

@profitprofit19 3 года назад

@@TierTalk This is the real-life example of "win the battle but lose the war" I have been working in the most dangerous prison/Jail IN America, we have been under consent decree since 2013. It had inmate attacks almost every day, Now Its more than 1.5 on average every day. We are supposed to manage inmates to talk to them not by Brute Force, if any of them showing "disrespect", talk to them to have a understanding about things that caused him to do that, not by retaliation, or threatening, Why ?

@profitprofit19 3 года назад

When inmates feel mistreated, whether its reasonable or not, we want them to show, in order to talk them into understanding of the things that caused him to do that, Or they will take it out on someone who is vulnerable consciously or un-consciously.(But, so far most prisons/jails have been in a state of emergency, all critically short of frontline officers .Few have that kind of empathy to be able to do it)

@johnclark3029 2 года назад

Anthony, you are absolutely right this needs to be nipped. As an academy instructor and FTO this is the same advice I give. I recently had a new officer (who has since left the field) who lost respect the moment they entered the unit due to youth and lack of physical prowess. That kid was too concerned with how petty it made them look.

@TierTalk 2 года назад

I agree. Once you let it happened …it rolls downhill. It’s all a test to see what will be tolerated.

@tizocalonzo7652 4 года назад

I understand that I am overweight. I wish you the best when you finally get freedom.

@paranoid5881 4 года назад

I'm in training, 3rd day of training was today, a female trainee and I shadowed another C.O. The inmates tested us so I hosted ignored their taunts, since they're all male they went for my Co female trainee. She ignored them, didn't help. The c.o we shadowed didn't say anything or explain how to correct them. The Sargent and LTs seem to give them leeway, Wade gives special privileges to certain pods, let them bang on doors, give them what they ask for, etc. They all seem to group up and start shit at any give time while we saved lunch, dinner, Head count, gave them water, cleaning supplies. They went crazy over the remote, TV not having volume, Banging the pod door and LT gave them the remote. I'm alittle worried just by the look of things.

@TierTalk 4 года назад

You need supervisors that have your back and show support.

@rosesicurello7712 11 месяцев назад

This happened literally yesterday. Came on nightshift we have been told to try and not use the intercom after 10 because some go to bed after dinner they need to be out the door early for work. My co-worker used the system to call down an inmate who had pots and pans and had not even started it . One inmate came down later and said "yeah thanks for waking everyone up you fat f@*k.". And walked away. When he came back he said that again. My co worker just said goodnight . After he left he said "that guy is such a jerk". We did talk about calling people down and how we do need to change from stopping at 11 to stopping at 10. I saw the inmate next morning go out for a smoke break. When one other person was with him I went out and asked him to come for a walk with me. He came over we started walking he said "is this about what I said last night"? I said "yes that was really disrespectful". We went back and forth about why he said what he did. It ended when we got back around to the front and I said "I understand that you were upset because you haven't felt like he listened last time you asked him not to go over the intercom after 10. What you said was inappropriate and very disrespectful. It's not ok at all. You can be upset but you need to reign it in. If you feel like you can't address something without being respectful than leave it alone till later or talk to someone else. Talk to me. I will work on being on the intercom late not happening again but you cannot talk that way. He did apologize to me thanked me for saying I was going to work on it with my co worker and said he would try not to lose his cool. My co worker is also overweight and I hear a lot about him being loud at count opening doors loud etc. That I let go but this one inmate I felt went to far when he walked by was very loud and name called. And I told him that as well that the name calling and bad language was out of line and not ok. He seemed to get the message and didn't apologize to my co worker but he did apologize to me.

@davidshepherd397 4 года назад

I think your reaction or lack of reaction on rounds is correct. Don't rise to the bait until you want to and are ready. In direct communication, as you say speak to it, unless like Anthony says you are in a use of force situation, then the inmate will say lots that means little. The place I worked the units were barred not walled so sound carried, and sometimes I entered the unit and just stated, "what was that, I couldn't hear through the door" which usually ended with a "no one said anything boss" therefore my win, and I could let it drop. Not recommended but true, first thing one morning an inmate was up demanding something that I told him would be dealt with after breakfast, and he stated "what an asshole". the next inmate to approach me was a regular rounder who was also the corridor-man, and asked a question, I told him to take a hike, and he asked me what was up, so I said apparently I'm an asshole and I'm trying to live up to that. He walked into the unit and next thing I knew the inmate who had labeled me came up and apologized. So things went back to normal. Its about picking your battles, keeping in mind that there is a big difference between yelling from the back and direct communication, which must be addressed. At shift change we used to shake hands and use our last names. That respect we showed each other sent a clear message to the inmates of what we expected. If you jump at everything, they will continue to bait you.

@russhamilton3800 5 лет назад

This is a complex issue and no one or two tips are going to suffice in reining it in. You need a comprehensive approach but if other staff are letting everything slide and or your supervisor isn't giving you enough backing the headway you make through other techniques will not happen as quickly. First off most of this is about pressure which comes in the form of negative attention and write ups. Inmates in a certain dorm or block are calling names they need attention. More time spent there, more searches, more write ups not for behavior but for what you are finding etc. Now let me say inmates are dumb and pressure by itself does not work well. Any one who trains horses knows that pressure doesn't work, it's the release of pressure that clues them into the correct behavior. So keep constants steady pressure, negative attention and some write ups on them. When they let up, you let up too. This takes time, effort and thoughtfulness. Also if you have ever programmed a teacher. The whole class agrees everyone will pay rapt attention when the teacher stands in a certain spot or only when pacing etc. In a few weeks they are subconsciously trained. Make sure those inmates aren't taking your head out of the game because you walked in on something or you are too close to some dope or a phone or they are delaying you while someone down the way is hiding contraband or finishing a fight. Your weight is an easy subject for them to pick out and it will be used for a distraction if that is what is called for. Corrections is an onion and right now your weight mentioned as disrespect is one layer, manipulation, diversion, programming are all layers you have yet to see.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Russ Hamilton well said. I like the onion metaphor. I believe he has a lot of layers he needs to get through ...to me, the most important is that first one

@russhamilton3800 5 лет назад

Absolutely and when you are new you are not going to see or understand the nuances of the deeper more three dimensional game. I want him to at minimum just know there is a deeper game and that he can attack the problem just by understanding those principles about constant pressure, negative attention and disciplinary write ups SHOULD get the ball rolling in the right direction. If he can get som momentum going in the right direction and see improvement it will be both a character and career building excercise.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

I agree. The key is ...all effort is being employed get back his sense of control over that unit

@sarahivsutterb747 5 лет назад

Wow that's so cool and good to know for any correctional officer and especially for rookies in the uniform and badge! You have my highest level of respect for this advice and if I could be a rookie, I would appreciate it very much to be on your side to learn your tricks and skills! Lovely greetings from Sarah and have a wonderful weekend and stay safe out there and take care of you 💖🇺🇸💖🇺🇸💖🇺🇸💖🇺🇸💖🇺🇸

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

It Is great advice

@thomashouse6090 5 лет назад

It depends on the situation. In my case I talk to them offline. Usually they're pissed off because somthing hasn't been addressed. In this case if I can't address it which often I can't I try to give them options. If it's a whole housing unit I write cases. Take away enough privileges they'll come back in line. I agree you do have to address it

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Thomas House well said

@marvinmuslim 4 года назад

My captain told me he doesn’t tolerate disrespect and neither will I!!!!

@aykay8528 5 лет назад

It depends on the rapport you have with the inmate. Now as far as them making snide remarks about weight, I just tell that inmate that his wife clearly didn't have a problem with my weight. Every now and then, you have to dish it back. It may not necessarily be the right thing to do, but some times they are testing your wits. Some times, a little embarrassment works in shutting down the disrespect.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Funny

@malikmalik1141 5 лет назад

Anthony, I feel that ignoring a person will make that person feel like a fool and he/she will feel so embarrassed that they will STFU.... But if you give them what they want that behavior continues.I work with adult who suffers from arrested development, you have to treat the like kids , by ignoring them.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

In this case ignoring is not good. The officer must approach them professionally and tell them that this action will not be tolerated

@malikmalik1141 5 лет назад

@@TierTalk Ok. Got it!

@Daellex 3 года назад

I had some slight disrespect when running a unit from the booth glad I handled it right I gave them a inch let out top tier and bottom tier for wreck bottom tier had not gotten let out yet I saw no time written down so I took it upon my self to let them out .They started to act up doing things like running around standing on the top tier instead of on the wreck staying on the stair well congregation not to bad really but then they started going back and fourth toward the door I called out s few and once on the speaker too from the booth at that point it was already 20 mins before the 15 min before count so I said lock down I took away the rest of the reck after a few warning one of the inmates was like what's up I said some are doing to much lol he was like I can respect that and they all locked down actually I felt like I gained a little authority in that moment actually cause it came from me and from tips from you're videos .

@Thugl1f 5 лет назад

Anthony said it very well. I would have whatever inmate I thought was guilty cleaning the toilets every night. Also you could address them at count time and let them know that you will not be turning the TV on for an additional half hour because there are several inmates that don't seem to be able to show respect to you. Let them know that you will continue to leave it off for a half hour after every count until you see the same respect from them as you give them. I am not a big fan of punishing the whole group for the actions of a few, but sometimes when there are several at fault it is the best way to handle the situation. But before you do anything, get with your Sergeant and let him/her know what you want to do. They may know something special about your particular situation that would make my advice a bad idea. Every situation is different and might call for a different solution.

@jacobs87 5 лет назад

I agree with what you would do. Its probably the exact way I would handle it as well. If the disrespect continues after write ups, I think my next step would be to remove that inmate out of MY building.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

I agree. That removal shows immediate control

@profitprofit19 5 лет назад

Tier Talk Correctionsone RU-vid Channel Only there is a problem, not enough segregation cells for every one of them, and with more than 60% of offenders have mental issues, lock them down or even more aggressive way would make them become more irratical or suicidal.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

ch_profits guan rememberer, I mentions that not everything has to be a write up. But you still need to be seen in that position of control. Maybe an inconvenient move or a search. Something that shows action on your end and control

@ckez4724 5 лет назад

Almost at 4K!!🇺🇸

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

I know. I’m excited. 89 away

@StoicObserverS 4 года назад

Lol... Now , 10 months later, he is at 10.5k!!! Awesome

@acepilotson3331 5 лет назад

If you have discretion concerning shakedowns I would spend a day shakingdown every cell/Cube that has something to say. If not, we have a “insulting language” charge which I would utilize. I would also announce to the unit ahead of time that things are changing. Remind them They made it this way and they can change it for the better if they choose.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Perfect. It shows control

@ghigdon88 5 лет назад

You may not respond immediately but in a timely manner. Log everything! To cover what ever happens next. The inmate will always try and bring you down to thier level

@Coopdeville06 5 лет назад

Obviously if your getting disrespected you deserve it, as a former inmate I have never seen an officer get disrespected that didn't deserve it.

@shericontrary2535 4 года назад

thugs test and respect you if you speak their language (sometimes talking mess). I always got along with thugs because they usually say it like it is. They don't have good manners in my world but at least they don't play games like sex offenders do.

@stevenstackpole9470 2 года назад

I'm not a correction officer (yet) but what if you have the punishment to a pod boss and he (or she) would ensure everyone toed the line in the future. They did that when I was in the Army. Curious if it would carry over.

@ckez4724 5 лет назад

Gang. Let’s get some shirts made up! I know you could sell them to help support the channel! We should have people submit designs. Tier talk logo. Silver line flag on back or on the sleeve!

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

That’s a great idea. I’ll work on that. I could use the help

@joshkosek5757 5 лет назад

I’d buy one!

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

I appreciate that

@eliseoquezada3207 5 лет назад

Tier Talk Correctionsone RU-vid Channel Same here I’d buy one as well! Great idea!

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Thank you.

@kelseymccullough8699 2 года назад

Can you please do a video about what happens if a inmate becomes depressed or even suicidal? And how to handle that situation?

@TierTalk 2 года назад

Yes. Great idea. I will work on that

@TierTalk 2 года назад

Have you seen this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m0p81w18eDw.html

@museofeducation9609 5 лет назад

Get a habit of saying something like " you're silly" or "Don't be silly" instead of "ignoring it" whenever someone is rude to you not just from inmate. That shows you are listening and not let anyone get to you easily, also let the negative vibration( from the negative remarks) return back to that person let him/her have opportunity to refine or correct his/her statement to show that you are a person who really cares about him/her, and especially helpful in dealing with inmate by easy tension.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

I would actually be a little me more affirmative and tell them their remark will not be tolerated

@profitprofit19 5 лет назад

Tier Talk Correctionsone RU-vid Channel You are right, I used to be more affirmative, now I am paying more attention on easing tension due to the facts that way too many inmate-inmate assaults (from just about everyday to more than once per day), and inmate on staff assaults(about once every month, in a jail with 1,200 offenders in 24 pods, and they already know cameras are all over to catch every move they make.) Then again if you really say "its not tolerated" that's what some offenders like to hear, they would get a kick out of it and feel like to do it again to get to you for fun.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

ch_profits guan if they continue to do it after you have told them not too....what is your next step

@museofeducation9609 5 лет назад

Good question, the answer is this " there are two ways, one is the traditional way , the second one is the 'direct supervision' way", and why this is very important because in a " well run direct supervision facility ,inmate assaults is rarely happening, but in our city jail , the violence is happening from 'almost everyday' two years ago to now, Oct 2018, "more than once per day'. And few professional people(someone like you) are not familiar with the 'new generation jail's parricidal and dynamics" that is the way to have every detention center become a constitutional standard detention center for detainees, and also a safe and secure working place for line staff.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

we care we need that balance

@thomasnugent3836 8 месяцев назад

Having never been a Corrections Officer, I really don't feel qualified to offer any advice or suggestions. I agree that the situation is wrong, and the CO has to let the inmates know that disrespect will not be tolerated.

@TierTalk 8 месяцев назад

Your opinion is always welcome here.

@samuelpierce7595 5 лет назад

As a CO, is there a need to "draw a line in the sand" and operate with a given consequence to disrespect (shakedown the cell, loss of TV privilege for the unit as others have mentioned, etc.) or is it something that is better to handle on a case by case situation? I have a couple of relatives who are CO's who describe their process and it seems that they sometimes operate in a quid pro quo mindset (treat me with disrespect and it will be returned in kind). It's a career path that I'm looking into and as yet have no hands-on experience, so I don't want to be quick to judge something that I don't have a perspective to understand, but inmates and staff can just be having a bad day. To sum up, where does a GOOD CO draw the line between consistent professionalism and trying to maintain fairness in their dealings with inmates? Or am I completely off base in assuming that these are mutually exclusive ideas?

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Samuel Pierce it’s a great question. In the video I mentioned having control. That is the key. We expect inmates to have bad days. But we have to be aware of our surroundings. If the inmate is outright disrespectful and other inmates see you do nothing, that is an issue. In the end, the disrespect should be addressed. How it is addressed is depends on the individual. But, by addressing it, control goes back into the hands of the officer.

@samuelpierce7595 5 лет назад

@@TierTalk thanks for the insight!

@caseyhatten6150 2 года назад

if i could double like this i would!!!

@TierTalk 2 года назад

That is awesome. Thank you

@juju4842 5 лет назад

I have a bit of a different situation. I’m a contract employee at a prison, separate from medical, doing dialysis. I’m in a room (no coworkers) with inmates shackled to the chair while on the dialysis machine. Since I’m not technically a prison employee, all I hear are complaints regarding COs. I mostly ignore what they say, or just comment ‘that’s too bad’ etc. So should I say anything? To the inmates or COs? Should I ignore it? The only advice I’ve been given is to only talk to them about medical/dialysis related issues. I hear a lot...I’m in the room with them for 5 hours/ 3 times a week. I’m just curious to know, from an officers view, if I should do anything.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

You always want to keep communication professional. Imagine if a CO heard something negative. They may feel that you feel that way as well. Also, they could be trying to divide you by badmouthing CO’s to test your response

@FKimE 2 года назад

Address the disrespectful behavior and tell them to quit it, if it continues write it up(mention the 1st warning given), if it continues write it up again and recommend discipline for disruptive behavior during the count and hopefully an example will be made to discourage poor behavior and disrespect.

@penderagon_9956 5 лет назад

I work in a small county jail and I have a problem with disrespect on a daily basis from the inmates. I have attempted to deal with this in a direct fashion but my supervisor and the rest of my shift does not seem to care leaning more towards being soft on the inmate and making me look bad in front of the unit. This leaves me in a ignore it or handle it without backup/support situation. What do I do? I been a co for 8 months now.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

+Damion Pender you need to have a talk with your supervisors. Tell them you need to be supported or you can’t be effective

@bosskitty630 4 года назад

Write it up in go over his or her head. It’s your safety in livelihood.

@ΜολονΛαβε100 4 года назад

I agree with both. Take it up the chain of command to fix that. We are all we have. Like inmates stick together, we should too.

@ΜολονΛαβε100 4 года назад

In my current facility, that is a big problem too. One of everything thats wrong with that place. I am waiting for the next class at the county to come back at the county where in my view everything was better than here because the place i am at right now, omg it is a set up... The whole thing is just wrong. Now I understand why everyone hated privatized facilities.

@woxfan82 3 года назад

Thats all you gotta say! Don't write anyone up. In c the cook county jail, every shift he I worked on a 90 day assignment, he is on bones. I won't let him or his celle out untill he apoligizes. Make an example

@elliotthunter6226 3 года назад

He could also just get into better shape...... problem solved

@jacobhicks295 4 года назад

I was conducting count with another officer who is vertically challenged and the inmates see this as a laughable matter. I've only been an officer for 3 months and the other officer a couple of years. He tells the dorm to be quiet and they all start laughing. I see this as a major sign of disrespect and immediately correct the situation by proclaiming my voice in matching his words with more force. The dorm was completely silent after that. Was I wrong in standing up for my fellow officer? Or should he have handled the situation? (I highly doubt he would have handled the situation)

@TierTalk 4 года назад

That’s a great question. Technically you can’t allow it to happen but he needs to stand up for himself. You definitely need to have a dialogue with that office.

@Nick-ys4py 4 года назад

Usually i just pop the cell door and go ask what the issue is Face to face in the dorm let everyone know im not afraid to have it out...usually this work..if inmate keeps it up i make them dress up and leave and have a one on one..

@Valkyriepedersen 4 года назад

I am a rookie, OJT I have been placed in an open woman's dorm like pod, This will be my post. so far they are very disrespectful to me, and I have done nothing to deserve it. Just graduated last week. This pod has had no permanent CO because they all keep leaving, so the inmates feel they are running off all the co's. They comment on every thing I say and do and curse at me. My OIC doesnt believe in write ups and told me the wARDEN WANTs work sanctions. I am 3 days into OJT......so I am gonna get my ass handed to me very soon. Treat the inmates with respect, this will be hard when they constantly disrespect you, but I am going to try and be professional, I too have ignored some things. I dont want to give them the reaction they seek. I have been told to be the same everyday, firm fair and consistent. Never worked in this industry before.

@pina0911 3 года назад

I am dealing with the same thing. I made my year a few months ago and is currently still in a women’s open dorm setting with my desk being inside the dorm with no partner. Lately they have been assigning me to different dorms and I am dealing with unfamiliar faces and getting tried and disrespected for doing my job. I am struggling with not losing my cool because a person can only take so much. Grabbing a female to talk to her on the side is impossible because she will tell you to fuck off and refuse to speak to you so I’m at a loss. I see your comment is 10 months ago, has it gotten better for you?

@Valkyriepedersen 3 года назад

@@pina0911 I left because the cpl and sgt (men) would never back me up, and after 6 mths told me I was going to get retrained, in front of the inmates, that was going to make it much worse for me, they basically didnt want me to do the job they asked me to do, So I quit! They sent a "veteran offficer , who was sleeping with the sgt, to retrain me. In the log book I gave the veteran officer lol my cuffs, keys, pepper spray. I told her you have 82 AP and walked out the door mid shift.Everyone flipped out. I said its a little to late to do the right thing now. If you wanted me trained by a vetertan officer you had your chance. It waS ALL BS. i AM STILL TRAMATISED FROM THE EXPERIANCE. It has taken a toll on me those girls need to be locked up like the men, they wolf pack you. They treat them like they are in a college dorm, not like inmates. Dont get me wrong, I went in there with love in my heart an wanting to be a mentor, but it was a den of snakes..

@boblee2682 5 лет назад

My weight is 110 lb am I to small to work in corrections

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Nope. It is all about how you carry yourself

@LordBwithU 3 года назад

We have a couple of 110 pound woman in our facility, they handle businesses as such and they are respected

@JimA-pp2nu 3 года назад

yes

@JimA-pp2nu 3 года назад

@@LordBwithU "women"

@realpolicetalk 5 лет назад

You react your screwed. That simple. As far as orders ask, tell, make comments be damned.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Real Police Talk so true. 100 percent accurate

@michaelcushman4820 5 лет назад

How do we get the mugs, Anthony???

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Email me Gangianthony@yahoo.com And I will give you my address. Just mail me a twenty five dollar check and I will send you the mug. I hope that is the most simplest way. I am new to this.

@wildflower22900 5 лет назад

Tier Talk you could just invoice through PayPal for your merchandise! Super easy and quick. Can then ship with PayPal as well. Love your videos! I start training in the morning with the TDOC!

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Good luck wildflower and thank you for your advice. You have to keep us informed and tell us how the training goes

@wildflower22900 5 лет назад

Tier Talk will do 👍🏻

@wildflower22900 5 лет назад

Update: Lots of paperwork, classes, and a cell shake down thus far. Had a little defensive PT yesterday. I’m sure that will get worse lol. We are lucky in not having to go to our intense, state facility to train (Tullahoma)...because we wouldn’t have been able to go until middle of July, and the facilities are extremely to short staffed to wait, so we have a class of 24 training at regional. I was chosen for one of the squad leader positions today by the instructors, after evaluation and a submitted essay as to why we think we would be a good squad leader. Weapons training starts next week, so I’m excited to get out of the classroom for a bit! Will update more as I go.

@FredM72 Год назад

Is this a lesson on insecurities or inmate discipline?

@sarahivsutterb747 5 лет назад

These inmates there who bully this correctional officer because of his body must get a disciplinary reaction because it is unacceptable and disgusting to bully people for their bodies and all the other things! I think if correctional officers do not make it clear who is in control and if they don't standing their grounds and borders it can easily get out of control and order! With inmates in the institutions it is the same thing as it is with little kids, you as correctional officers have to be more like adult parents and treat these inmates there in this manner and order and you have to make it in an prompt, strict, clear and straight order! If this doesn't work, so then you should make it clear for all inmates in the tier or unit with the orders of lockdown for all involved inmates there in ad-seg and the other inmates in a temporary lockdown for a couple of days and you have to give them a bulletin with clear orders and responsibilities and maybe new restrictions because of this unacceptable bullying and disrespect for a correctional officer! Further, I would definitely make a report in the inmates papers for this incident and I would definitely make a disciplinary hearing with the inmate/inmates who was/were involved in this case and maybe I would make a restitution order to the inmate/inmates from the money of their commissary account, that's it! Stay your grounds and show them your position, that's it!!!!! Lovely greetings from Sarah and have a wonderful weekend and stay safe out there and take care of you all together! Give Mia Grace and Siena Parker a lot of hugs and cuddles from Ursula and me 💖🇺🇸💖🇺🇸💖🇺🇸💖🇺🇸💖🇺🇸

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Hey Sara. I hope all is well. I love your advice. Thank you for all your input

@suncity9152 5 лет назад

Shake them down , show more of presence. It will eventually piss the convicts off that dont want added presence by us and will eventually handle the offenders acting a fool and drawing attention.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Great idea. It shows control. It shows who owns the house

@glennsr.1082 Год назад

Only a certain amount of people are good COs. It is something within that CO that does not come from a book.

@thePrussian 5 лет назад

I delayed movement to chow one day because the mob was crowding me at the door. When they backed up, I let them out. One offender called me a dumbfuck as he walked out the door. I normally address disrespect immediately but he rushed past me. I wrote a report and he was ultimately given 10 days in seg. When he returned to the unit the offender apologized to me personally and I have had no issues since.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

You did a smart move. It’s all about time and place. You may a very smart move that day

@rickalsip2329 5 лет назад

I've been watching all the prison channels I figured I'd switch it up and see the other side

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

I think that is awesome if you. I am always open to hear your story. But as you progress through my videos (you will see his balance the videos are... I am honored that you took the time to check out my channel. And listen, no matter what your walk in life is...I am behind programming. I believe people can change. People can overcome their mistakes. As long as they are willing to put in the effort. And for those that do...BRAVO. I know it’s not easy. But they have my respect.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

It’s all a game of chess. We can’t play checkers

@rickalsip2329 5 лет назад

@@TierTalk absolutely agree. I went to jail on January 10th of last year for DUI I did 6 months it changed my life forever. I shook the cops hand for arresting me. I was an addict for 20 plus years. now almost a year Clean like you said as long as someone is willing to put in the effort they can change. Just so you know I'm not here to taunt you or anything like that. I'm not like that

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Brother. You have my respect. My mother was a big drinker and she changed her life as well. It took one warning from the doctor. We all have flaws and demons. I strive to be better everyday. God knows I am not perfect. But we have to help each other up. I commend your brave step forward and I commend your ability to remain on the right path. Maybe one day we can share your story and you will see what my channel is about. Your story can change lives and therefore it should be heard. Your story also brings balance and with that said, it must be heard.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Any questions. Feel free to email me.

@gregmoore5238 5 лет назад

Write him or them up. I was upstairs doing a strip search and herd one of my inmates talking crap I told the inmate to shut up witch in turn the inmate said fuck you I went down stairs and escorted him to admin and wrote him up he tried to tell me he wasn't talking to me he thought another officer said it. I told him it doesn't matter it was another officer or not you will keep your mouth shut, the inmate took the write up and I have not had any trouble since they know I will not put up with disrespect and on a side note it shocked all of them it took me 2 seconds to get down stairs and snatch him up.

@TierTalk 5 лет назад

Great advice. Because the whole time you showed you had control. That is the key

@gregmoore5238 5 лет назад

I'll usually let them talk a little shit but the disrespect is a no go no matter what. I think if you let them vent a little it tends to make them feel better but I will not allow any disrespect of any staff.

@donaldgraham8290 Год назад

I want a mug I'm a new co.just started cameron mo.

@TierTalk Год назад

Welcome aboard Welcome to the family

@shaneporter3019 4 года назад

The answer is nothing you can do that will effectively change their behavior. With all the cameras and the way society is today the inmate has more rights than you do. Anytime you do take action it gets scrutinized...good old days of a punch in the face (which worked like a charm) is over unless ofcourse attacked first but these inmates know that and are cowards. Sit there and do your shift and then go home. Taking action these days can get you in more hot water than if you sit and do nothing. Unless an inmate is hanging up or about to kill another inmate my ass remains at the officers station

@shaneporter3019 4 года назад

Also depends on your shift. I work midnights and any disrespect from inmate instead of useless paperwork on my 30 min tours just kick the cell door or bang on the door every tour to disrupt his sleep. Useless ticket or taking away their sleep? Obvious winner