How Your 911 Call Can Get You Sent to Prison (John’s Briefs) | ASP Extra 

"ANYTHING YOU SAY can and WILL be used against you”

I love that they use this case as a prime example of why you need the firearms legal protection service but under their contract 3.4, they don't cover events between family members.

Son hits Dad in chest 90 days after open heart surgery... twice... wow...

I never would have believed that was a man on the phone unless I was told.

911 operators always ask question after question after question, trying to get tons of info... incriminating yourself! Hang up, great advice!!

A police officer who taught one of the concealed carry classes I took said if you had to use your weapon in defense of yourself or someone else, you should call the cops and let them know the situation then HANG UP THE PHONE. His explanation was the call will be used against you in court.

"...and used against you." Very instructive, thank you. It's gotta be one of the worst things in the world to be innocent and hit with a felony conviction. Now this man with a serious heart condition has been stripped of all means of effective self defense because he failed to express himself correctly at a time when almost no one would do so well.

I’ve called in car accidents that I’ve witnessed and they try to make you feel like it’s your fault. 😆. Great advice moving forward.

When I took a conceal and carry class, they told us the same thing “There has been a shooting at...” hang up

I kinda feel like 911 calls should be considered under duress and not admissible. But I havent really thought it through a lot to be honest.

Listening to the call it sounded like a crazy Mom

Once I was working as a pizza delivery driver. I was a victum of an attempted mugging. When the police came, I was babbling, partly because I had just got knocked down a flight of stairs and partly because of an adrenaline rush. I told them that I had pulled a .38 on my assailant after he struck me in the back of the head and knocked me down the stairs. The officer's response was "you should have shot him".... Luckily for both of us he ran when he saw the snubby...

This is why people are introverts. All trouble happens when interacting with other people. And no matter how smart you think you are, there is something you don't know that could end up getting you in trouble like this.

Seems like hanging up immediately after saying "theres been a shooting at (address)" will bring every cop on duty loaded for bear . It causes the police to arrive with too many unknowns and will increase the chances for the police to misinterpret the present situation and possibly lead to some more bad stuff happening. It seems to me that I would want the police to know a little about the present situation before they arrive. Just my take, but I would like to hear more conversation about the justification of hanging up without giving the 911 operator a little more info. Thanks John. I would would like to hear more from this gentleman in the future.

Almost fell off the toilet when he said it was a man.

Sounds like Flip Wilson doing Geraldine

John, this was one of your most valuable videos yet for the public to hear. Thank you for sharing it.

The mom on the call sounds like Tyrone Biggums!

“How’s your son” “He’s alright” “Ok”

The sad reality is that prosecutors are politicians, which means the public's perception of their office is based on successful prosecutions. You are just a number to them. Very good information in this video. Thank you.

I love it. After all that at 10:19 he looks like he's about to cry when dude says the 911 caller can't own guns anymore.😂🤣

I had a defense situation a few years ago. Told the dispatcher a man threatened to kill me and I had to defend myself. Still got arrested. Still went to court. It was a mess. Oh, and they let the guy go after he sobered up. I was not happy. If you decide to carry a weapon for self defense, get yourself a lawyer on retainer or concealed carry insurance BEFORE you walk outside with a gun. No matter what the circumstances I can almost guarantee you will end up in court and unlike some other charges, you will not have the presumption of innocence. Juries are very unsympathetic to civilians who carry guns.

Trying to remember but wasn't the advice in a previous video (perhaps from Mas himself) on this topic something like: - Call 911 & give them: - Your name - Your location (corner of such & such) - Your description (I'm white, 6', wearning jeans etc) - I've been attacked, my life was in danger - Perp description (big guy, 250lbs, etc) - Ask for them to please send the police & an ambulance - Hang up

Sounds like Rasputia from Norbit.. The only thing missing was "How you doin'! "

This vid was worth the price of admission!!! Thank you, Mr. Johnson for the invaluable, and dare I say, life-saving information of what TO say and what NOT to say following, Heaven forbid, a self-defense shooting.

Man that sounded like some comedy skit, I was thinking to myself "is this a joke? Disrespecting the house?". Valuable lessons learned though.

“Don’t you get up or I’ll shoot you.” “I’m trying to get you help.”

um...it's hard to understand audio. would you consider putting subtitle, please?

How about those calls *before* the shooting starts? An attorney at my last training class said to say; 1.What is happening..."It sounds like someone is trying to break in at _________". 2. "I am afraid for my/our life/lives." 3. drop the phone or hang up. I'd be interested in your attorney's advice on that scenario John.

Excellent comments and suggestions. I recently had an experience with a local small police department, where I was at a store that was robbed. The attendant asked me to call police. As I dialed 911, I followed the suspect to the parking lot. (Me going to my car, and the suspect to his) During the call I provided with ALL pertinent information. Description of incident, location, license plate of get away vehicle. But I was interrupted by an eager and agressive young dispatcher that interrupted me even as I'm providing all pertinent information. I then allowed him to interrupt. He asked me to give him description of the suspect and direction of travel... My response was "I was preparing to give you that information but you keep interrupting me" then I hanged up the phone. Subsequently received a call from another dispatcher demanding that I met with responding officers. My response, was that I had driven away and because of the lack of professionalism from the previous dispatcher. I didn't want to be of assistance. My point, people in dispatch, need to be tought some respect and professionalism.

These discussions are priceless in today’s atmosphere.

Excellent content for us good guys. Thank you John. Out of all the firearms training classes I’ve taken personally and professionally. The best was Massad Ayoob’s MAG20 we didn’t shoot a single round in the two days. I can’t stress it enough...EVERY PERSON THAT CARRIES A FIREARM LEGALLY should take this class.

Some of the best 15 minutes I've spent in RU-vid

Don't be up in hur disrespectin' my house.

How's your son doing? *HE AIGHT* Ok then.

911 usually calls you back so what do you??? my ringer is never off. LoL!!!!

Thanks for the videos John, always love to see the new video alert from “Active Self Protection”!!

I had a self defense situation about five years ago and I was the person to call 911. Looking back it was smart to call 911 before anybody else but I probably should have kept my comments simpler and more to the point. Instead of saying I shot a guy in self-defense I should have just stated I was attacked, and left it at that. When they cops show up they get some more detail then, no need to panic them before they arrive. They were actually very nice and accommodating but still, it could have been worse.

Have been putting off getting firearms protection from a competitor because they were so expensive, but then I found FLP and noticed description of all thing that are covered, many of which aren’t covered by a competitor and I jumped right on and signed up for premium protection from FLP. Even used the ASP discount. Best money I ever spent and now my mind can be at ease knowing that I am covered if God forbid I have to pull the trigger.

As a former 911 dispatcher, I can't bring myself to like this video. By immediately hanging up after stating "there's been a shooting," you are placing your own legal position over the safety of the responding officers, which is unethical and cruel to our first responders. There are several pieces of information we need to not only ensure the safety of our officers but also to reduce the likelihood of misunderstandings upon arrival, which can prove to be fatal in the worst situations. Critical pieces of information that we are taught (at least at my center) to collect on a "someone's been shot" call include the following: ~Where is the shooter/gun? - I can somewhat understand not wanting to admit to being the shooter in a self defense situation, but letting the dispatcher know that the firearm is secured in a safe or that the person with the gun is no longer a threat and will peacefully hand over the firearm to the officers will give the officers a better idea of what to look for, which will help them create a safe situation, and give the dispatcher more room to work with. ~Where is the patient and where are they injured? - Virtually every 911 center in the US processes medical calls through Emergency Medical Protocols, which are questions and instructions we must speak verbatim. This allows us to tell EMS crews how serious the injury is, what kind of equipment they'll need upon arrival, etc. If you're worried about the legal consequences of a self-defense shooting, imagine how it will look in court if the prosecutor points out that not only were you the shooter in the incident, but you did not provide medical aid to the patient and refused to take medical instructions from the dispatch (obviously you are not required to give medical aid as a civilian, but in this circumstance, I'm pretty sure that would have worked against the defendant. In many situations I can see this painting the defender as a very cruel and uncaring person). ~How many people are on scene? - This is more optional than the first 2, but you have to recognize that the situation is chaotic and that no matter how much information you give, officers will always be walking into these situations at a disadvantage when it comes to what they know vs what they don't know. As dispatchers, 99.9% of the time we are going to ask for everyone's first and last name, possibly date of births if the officers request it so that we can run for warrants while en-route. If you don't want to identify yourself, so be it, but at least let the dispatcher know how many people are involved/present and where they are. For this 911 call, you could say "My mother, my son, his girlfriend, and I are the only ones here. My mom is upstairs, my son and his girlfriend are inside in the kitchen. I'm outside on the porch." That, in my experience, would be the bare minimum we would want to work with, and again, that is for scene safety. I appreciate everything you do on RU-vid, John. As a hospital security officer, I watch your videos frequently to pick up on red flags to watch for, to discover new techniques in hand-to-hang situations, and to build my mental fortitude when it comes to switching on that "time to fight" mode. While I also recognize that you are 100% behind our LEO's, this video is not one of your better ones :(

This is one of the best videos I have ever seen. THANK YOU!!!!

Amazing the amount of content John could fit in his briefs.

Having called 911 probably 40-50 times in my career, the information you give is typed into a computer shared with officers. Also sometimes the phone call is patched through to the officers. I have helped save many lives with the information given to 911 dispatch. Be cautious in your wording, slow down your thoughts, and communicate effectively and give them information to help you. If you don't, and just hang up, you are taking the responsibility of your life and others on scene and placing that responsibility squarely on the shoulders of ( UNINFORMED officers who deal with negative ( drugs, robberies, violence, etc...) to come in and HANDLE the situation. To hell with that idea!!!!! Give them a heads up, so they don't confuse your scruffy face from working 80 hours with an armed drug addict! Remember they show up IGNORANT, it's your responsibility to educate them about the scene!!!

These are probably the most important fire arms videos available online today. Thank you for this.

Prosecutor doesn't care about the truth or what is right. All they care about is getting another conviction by any means possible. Justice?

The operator "what type of gun is it?" C'mon with the never-ending, impertinent questions ma'am....sheeesh 🤦🏽‍♂️

I like the approach to the 911 call being short and sweet. There is a lot going on during a stress related incident such as one with shots fired in self-defense.

I caught this 3yrs late and it’s nice to hear the old theme music. The new theme has grown on me👍Great channel

Thank you John and Terry for that information. I appreciate the advice and consider it invaluable if ever faced with that situation. I will try to help out on patreon because this could save me an enormous amount of money if I ever had to defend myself like your client.

"You know, my ringer is always off so I don't know who's calling me" not exactly what I'd wanna hear from a defense attorney...

Thank you, this is a true service to the community. I'm already subscribed to the main ASP channel, and I am now also subscribed to this ASP Extra channel.

One of the most informative channels on RU-vid. You rock!

Fantastic post, John! Much appreciated as this is such an enormous, and often overlooked, component of self defense!

Awesome information. Thanks alot I'm loving these legal videos.

That;s actually super useful information. Thank you very much.

I called 911 because I saw someone on my Door cam opening my car door(guy disappeared before I got out in the span of 15-20 seconds). Cops arrives and before she asks what happened she runs my license plate. Keep in mind I'm a law bidding citizen, CCH, have everything up to date and have no warrants. But that still made feel uncomfortable when she did that as if I was the culprit. Another thing I've notice 911 dispatcher ask if any weapons were involved. I feel like that's a trick question the ways it is worded. One would think it's for police safety which is half right, the other I believe is now they have to find out if you are allowed to carry a firearm even if it was self defense. Justice is blind indeed, a double edge sword. Love both of you guys videos. Keep up the great work.

Very useful free information....Thank You Guys !

"He alright."

Here in TX, a property owner can use deadly force in protecting property (perhaps not for "disrespecting the house" but certainly for invading the property, especially after a warning). Your "70 year old grandma", who owns the property, may use deadly force in protecting the property. This 911 call, here, would be slam-dunk for the defendant.

As someone who's been in a similar situation I can say that "loose lips sink ships" and this attorney is absolutely 100% Correct. You have the right to remain silent and I suggest you do that after you hang up with 911. The legal ramifications of the words you use can be catastrophic. Today, in 2018, the police have to do something, and they will, just not what you think. This video hits home, and I cannot stress enough the accuracy of this attorney.

Thank you, John.. Good series, good info, waiting for more to drop. I understand the butt-pucker factor that people are having when they hear his advice of call 911, say there was a shooting, give address, hang up.. It goes against things we as law-abiding citizens have been taught from the cradle but I get it and most people aren't in the courtrooms day in and day out on criminal cases and this guy is. If they don't want to take his advice, let them do something else at their own peril. I especially like the guy who says he's been through it in once instance and thinks that one instance applies in all other cases so just ignore everything else and take his advice... because, you know, the perp doesn't always die and he will certainly admit to his crime and if he does die his relatives will surely agree he was a bad man and needed to die would never dream to bring a civil case against you. And of course, the DA will always side with armed citizens defending themselves in EVERY jurisdiction in this country, seriously.. I believe that. it's a known fact, look it up on the Internets... Oh well, As for me, cause you know, I'm not independently wealthy enough to mount a criminal defense case, I think I am going to do some research on CC insurance that applies to my situation, starting with FLP and compare them to the others.. thanks again.

Dispatcher here, I have to respectfully disagree on this 911 call advice. The first questions a good dispatcher is going to ask is for the safety of their officers.....descriptions, wpns/drugs involved, where is the weapon....they'll also ask for injuries to advise the fire dept or get them on the line to triage. Believe me they should not care about your life story. Once those questions are answered they will try to keep you on the line to advise when they are close and to come out with hands up nothing in them and to get any updates right away if its a dynamic situation. While officers are on the way they might start asking questions like "why did you do it" just to kill time... honestly you can hang up at that point. True that people get amped up and start running their mouths in panic but I don't think that is something people can realistically train for. What you do by calling in a 911 call this way is putting all the responding officers on high alert, and believe me there will be a lot of officers responding. All they know is that an anonymous caller called in that there is someone with a gun who is willing to use it. They are trained to consider that such calls can be an ambush on police (as it has happened before).You have just statistically increased the chances of you or innocent bystanders getting shot. Believe me when I say the context of the situation makes a huge difference in the police response. You can just as easily incriminate yourself on a body cam and if you say nothing on the 911 call then plead the fifth once they get there and there is a dead dude on the floor.....it's not gonna look good at trial. There's plenty of other negatives I can think of but I don't want this to be too long. Honestly this advice might be OK in this very particular situation. But in plenty of others I see it going very poorly for the self defender and potentially people close to them.

Did he just say : "Theres been a shooting at ________ (address ) and HANG UP?" Wrong answer Cowboy. You had BETTER be telling that 911 Operator WHAT "YOU" look like and what you are wearing. , if possible ....that you LIVE there Be a terrible thing for the LEO's to show up and see YOU with a gun in hand and you get 10 rounds in the chest.(Thinking that YOU were the bad guy) "THINK before you STINK!!!"

If I ever catch a case, I’m calling this guy!

This video was very informative and helpful, thank you.

I would highly recommend reading "The Law of Self-Defense by Andrew Branca. He is a very prominent self-defense lawyer and completely contradicts this very poor advise. Firstly, when you make a 911 call, you don't want to give details but certain pieces of information are essential. Give them your name and location also let them know that you have been the victim of a crime. "I was attacked, I was in fear for my life and I had to defend myself." Ask for police and an ambulance. If your attacker is beyond saving, very likely you will need medical services yourself after having tons of adrenaline dumped into your body. Older people have had heart attacks after such an incident and that's better to have in a hospital than in a holding cell. Letting 911 know you are the victim lets them know you are not the threat and sets the tone of the encounter with the police. You are the complainant, not the respondent. Did you admit you defended yourself, of course, but they are going to find that out shortly anyways. Read Andrews book! It goes into much detail about the 5 pillars of self-defense law. Innocence, Imminence, Proportionality, Avoidance and Reasonableness. You establish several of these things just on the 911 call. Saying "there's been a shooting" and hanging up is probably the WORST advice I've ever heard of. No need to even mention that fact on the 911 call actually. Great way to get the police rolling up hot with their own adrenaline pumping increasing the danger to you and others however.

"Sit down or IMA shoot-chu again!" Momma don't play boy!!! Lol

Pure gold. Thank you very, very much.

There's a lot of comments saying you should add more info to the call so cops know everything is cool when they show up. These are clearly people who've never seen just how irrationally paranoid cops can be. A couple decades ago, my brother and his friends were coming back from a camping trip. As was once common, they were pumping their arms out the windows of his station wagon to get truck drivers to blow their air horns. Next thing they knew, they were surrounded by five state patrol cruisers, "guided" to the shoulder of the highway, and sitting in the grass for three hours while the cops searched the car and their camping gear for the gun someone called in and said they were waving at people. Neither my brother nor any of his friends have ever been gun owners. The moral of the story is that once you tell them a gun is involved the fact you have purple hair and are wearing an orange thong is not going to effect their response. Rambling on the phone will do you no good.

Brilliant info. Like everyone I will leave my 2 cents. Love the knowledge that the recording is starting off the dial......very useful! Now the advice to state "Theres been a shooting at...." and hang up. Personally I would recommend following up to ENSURE that the person understood you. I would also add a phrase....albeit I see why you want it short and sweet. But I would say "Theres been a shooting at xyz I need EMS asap. I will be doing what I can until they arrive. Please confirm you understand. Once they confirm. I hang up. This makes me appear not guilty but trying to do what I can in the way of possible first aid or watching the subject to make sure they dont run etc. I can fill in the blanks later. I know my routine.....Shooting at XYZ. Send EMS. Doing What I Can. Click. This makes me look honest, conscientious, and helpful. In a perfect world the 911 operator repeats back the confirmation.....if not interupt and say "Do you understand there has been a shooting at XYZ?. When they say yes....say SEND EMS. Hang up. You must push yourself away from the gangbuster of questions they will want to throw at you. Be forceful. Not everyone has this ability....thats why this Lawyer is recommending you just make the statement and hang up. My only fear though is that there was an audio issue or misunderstanding.....I want confirmation before I put down that phone...UNLESS the situation is too dangerous for me to drag it out of the caller. If so I just hang up. Again I'm no expert....know all your local state federal laws and consult a LAWYER....not me....just throwing out good entertainment for all.

Hello John. Good information about if you are the shooter. Can you do a video on if you witnessed this shooting? How much info do you tell 911 ? Do you stay on the line? What about first aid? What about the weapon?

You could hear the person on the 911 call ,say “”he swung on me “”he is disrespecting my house so I think when you break it down it might’ve been justifiable

I'm confused. What do you do when they inevitably CALL YOU RIGHT BACK?

By the time they finish that 911 call, the guy would have bled to death.

Good information about the 911 call being recorded before they even answer!

There are so many thoughts/ sentiments about the 911 call. The best (imho) that puts you in “a better light”, legally… re: priorities… is… “This is (your name), there has been an incident at (address), send an ambulance and police”… hang up…. THEN call your firearms’ insurance co hotline, and give them ALL the details THEY request. Ask lawyer of what to tell LEO’s when they arrive. No GUN IN YOUR HAND just prior to their arrival. In doing this… YOU are the 1st to call 911, documented by you giving your name, and YOUR top priority is getting help, above the priority of covering your “legal butt”. THAT call is what I am practicing…

The story puts things in a much better perspective. Rather than a lawyer - really you're a story teller. What an interesting profession. Prosecuters suck though. It's exactly like they say - they have no interest in justice - they only care about numbers, stats, political agenda, etc.

USCCA Call 911 for EMS only hang up Call USCCA your lawyer takes it from there.

I like the concept, but sounds like a good way for police to show up prepared to be under threat, and pointing guns at everyone on site. Unnecessarily risky. Maybe say "the threat has ceased" or identify the criminal's clothing, or something to that effect.

Mama said Fifty fif street 55 crip. Lmao 🤣

I know he is the expert, but just thinking it through. Wouldn't saying "There's been a shooting" prompt a little more aggressive response from the police? Rather than explaining you shot someone, and that there is no active threat, you will be outside with hands up. I guess its a pro vs cons. Because this call was SO BAD. Shows how easy it is to talk yourself into some possible jail time.

Avoidance. More i see these videos, the more I think avoidance. He should of left , cooled off and maybe had another family member deal with this 20 yr old. Or called the police.

Great information! I always keep my ringer off too.

Remember the Dave Chappelle comedy bit where he's on a 911 call, and tells the dispatcher that he pooped himself. That's all his friends comment on at the funeral.

Some sub titles for the 911 call would be helpful.

I really enjoyed this video.

This is good information. Thanks. Also, Terry is great. It's nice to hear something from close to home that applies to my state's laws.

Great information...thanks John

I'd love to hear a Lot more explanation from him on why to be so vague and short with your 911 call, instead of immediately establishing that YOU (or Whomever you just protected) were the VICTIM of attack...? I'd also love to hear his advice on what to do immediately after hanging that phone up in order to avoid being killed by responding LE who now have no more info than "Shots fired at this address." ? Maybe it's just me... but if I were a juror who found out that the gun owner in question hung up on 911 just to then immediately call his attorney, I might think that he or she was almost certain that they had committed a crime... I'd just like to hear a Lot more advice on what to do and what not to do after that phone call?

It may sound like you're trying to cover up a wrongdoing. But I understand, shootings almost always will find a way to a court of law. And as self defenders may not have a big lawyer available like police unions have neither empathy from DAs to go for lesser charges or value your testimony more than others. One has to be very careful what to say to authorities. It is unfortunate but that's the world we live in.

I’ve heard that if you call 9-1-1 say something inconclusive they will call you back.

Ive never understood why lawyers exist in the first place. The laws exist so why not just pull all the laws that might apply to the case and see if they apply. The problem is a well spoken prosecutor can get you sent up river if you are guilty or not.

This writer is a Law Enforcement Officer in NYC and RCing inSC you are absolutely correct. Active Self Protection is a Great Page and John is a very knowledgeable civilian, however, this video is clearly a Paid Advertisement. i am no legal advisor nor a field expert. however, A reasonable individual involved in a shooting making a 911 call should Identify themselves by name and give in detail the location of the incident, (highly important to report if it's an Active shooting, or ceased incident that requires Medical emergency) Note: Simply stating "there's been a shooting at this location..and hanging up.etc" Isn't what a reasonable person would do, clearly stating " Who (those involved), What (there's been a "ceased or active" shooting), Where (location)" this information is not an admission of guilt. Furthermore, the information this "legal advisor does not mention is the follow up actions you should take after you've been involved in a shooting incident, such as (if possible and when danger is no longer present) secure your firearm if possible away from your person. And when police arrive you are in your rights to request to be interviewed with legal advisement. John has an advertisement video mentioning a very good book i myself have read, you all should consider reading: ( DEADLY FORCE understanding your right to self defense ) by Massad Ayoob

Another helpful video. Thank you John . ✌🏽✊🏽🌺💜🇵🇷

Mike Tyson! 😆 Listening to the 911 call, I was thinking the voice sounded like a man trying to impersonate a woman. Valuable stuff! Seriously! Thanks!

Thank you so much john for the great video full of important and very valuable information.

That was definitely Geraldine Jones on the phone!

And I hope people try to see things from the perspective of law enforcement. They're probably going to treat you like the possible bad guy. Let them take your gun away for the time being and do their thing to ensure the scene is safe. They need to do that before figuring out what actually happened. If you protest and get in their way, you're going to appear as the bad guy to them and maybe even the jury.

Thanks John great video and content as always. The more I hear from this gentleman MR. Johnson the more I think I've finally found the company to join for concealed carry protection. I 've been trying to decide who to go with and it can be a little confusing. But through watching your videos featuring Mr. Johnson I get a good feeling this is the one. And it doesn't hurt that he's from my home town.

While there were some good insights presented in this discussion (and thank you for that), I believe some clarification regarding calling 911 is warranted. The attorney's recommendation that in such a situation you call 911, tell them merely "There's been a shooting at [this address]" and hang up may unleash a barrel full of trouble. The formal training I've taken in use of force / the legal issues involved and the safe and effective use of firearms suggests that approach with 911 would be unwise. Much of my training has been at the Sig Sauer Academy in NH with instructors who are present or former law enforcement officers. At the beginning of each class in which we will use firearms the instructors assign specific roles to individual students in the event of someone getting shot. One of the things they instruct the designated emergency services caller is to say "There's been a firearms training accident at [facility and address], please send an ambulance" and to stay on the line with the dispatcher. They emphasize to not say anything to the effect of "There's been a shooting," "Someone's been shot," or "Tony just shot Angela." They explain that saying any of those no-no things would immediately cause the dispatcher to unleash a swarm of police officers with guns drawn and perhaps a SWAT team. That would be both wasteful and dangerous for everyone in the vicinity. While the scenario you discuss in this video is a bit different in that the shooting was intentional, the same principle does still apply. Calling 911 and telling them there's been a shooting without providing specifics or answering the dispatcher's questions is asking for a lot of trouble which subsequently calling a legal defense hotline won't prevent. I mention this not to condemn, as there were some sound insights presented in this video. And I greatly appreciate your conscientious work and great videos, John. For your and others' safety I just wanted to illuminate another aspect of calling 911 that will hopefully prevent someone's rough day from getting needlessly worse. Best wishes!