HSE: Dave Strider, Pt. 1 

Dave had like 13 days racked up by [S]Cascade.

I'd argue Rose has been in the game longer than Dave, since she merged with her Doomed Timeline dream self

Both Dave(sprite) and Rose were in that timeline So they both were in Sburb for 4 months

I mean... Who knows about how long Retcon John has been outside the timeline.... Just a random thought though

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raymond shegog plus they have like a thin line to communicate so they wouldn’t get the full context nor do they have the emotional maturity to deal with it

I think another part of this is that a lot of homestuck takes place over the course of a single day. everything from the first page to the end of cascade (with the exception of jumps to things like offshoot timelines, the exiles, the troll backstory, or the Felt/Midnight Crew) was all just on John's birthday. these kids covered a lot of ground in terms of communication during a single day, but to be fair, there was a purpose... collaborating with nothing but online text conversations in order to play a game together takes a lot of finagling. it's honestly impressive how much other stuff besides conversations about the game we actually got, given the short time frame. and we still got some fairly insightful pesterlogs in that part of the story as well. but this is why act 6 is both important, and more concerned with character drama, rather than having such a heavy focus on game mechanics. the narrative now has the chance to play in the world it built, even more than it was already doing so, because so much of the core information about the world is wholly established. and the longer time frame allows for more in depth conversations to realistically occur, even in instances where we have to read between the lines and infer that they happened. so like, I think it makes sense that Dave would jokingly make fun of some of his friends' interests during the earlier acts of the story. like, the story even subtly hints to us that this is fine, because his friends felt comfortable enough with Dave to share their interests with him in the first place, and when he teases them, it doesn't seem like he's trying to enforce a standard that would make them stop liking what they like... they don't intend to stop liking this stuff, and that's fine with Dave. and Dave also engages with their interests on an ironic level to some extent, like, he made an ironic fursona that he'd use to joke around with Jade, and while Jade knew it was a joke, she was basically invited to be in on the goofs, rather than the subject of mean spirited ridicule. and I believe it was implied at some point that Dave used that same ironic oc to rp with Nepeta on a few different occasions... it's barely mentioned, but like... I dunno, I think it says quite a bit. for example, Dave may have made the character as an ironic dig at online furry culture, but the end result of him rping with Nepeta seemed to be her genuinely having fun, and at the end of the day, who cares what the level of sincerity actually was. Nepeta is used to having to try and coerce her stick-in-the-mud moirail to have fun with her in more than just a self-serious begrudging way, so having someone who will jump right into the scenario, even ironically, was probably something that she had a blast with. and Dave, for all his insistence that things are just jokes, really goes all in on whatever he's doing... because deep down, he is a classic awkward nerd, and obsessively prolonging shit that doesn't need to matter that much is his whole deal. I just think that, while Dave may have started with this douchey looking outer coating at the beginning, the kid on the inside was never malicious, and all of his friends could sense that about him. and one of the most heartwarming things about these kids is that they've gone though these stupid, douchey, or pretentious phases with each other, and never gave up on each other. they're out here genuinely being really good friends because like... when you go through those years with someone and see them at their most juvenile, you kind of know their capacities for things like douchiness, pretentiousness, nerdiness, stupidity... you've seen it all from them, but you've also appreciated them even when they were in the midst of all that. at the end of it all, if you can love them anyway, you're probably the best kind of friends that anyone could ask for. this is why friendship through homestuck feels so friggin genuine, whether you're talking about the characters or the fans. it's kind of a "no holds barred" type of friendship. it's really touching.

@@loregoblin3854 nice analysis! agreed

yeah i think using this as an example of daves supposed "hatred of women" early on kind of overblowing things. it was a life or death situation for dave and the robo slap had 0 lasting consequences. for someone who OD suggests hates women, dave sure knows this girl pretty well if hes able to recognize both when shes sleeping and how to wake her up. sometimes OD just takes too many things in early homestuck seriously. its much more comparable to problem sleuth than later homestuck in tone, i honestly kind of doubt hussie intended to imply dave had a deep rooted hatred of all women when he was writing this scene. it's a gag.

@@ihaveadilemma OD probably should have picked up on the fact that Hussie actually fucks with everyone. Seriously, who else would blatantly say they created their wife in their own webcomic?

@@navidesuka5683 Having been one who presumes my arguments were "self explanatory," we can hope that OD grows out of this intellectual stagnation.

Correct

I suspect Cal only affects people (particularly men/boys) who have it in them to abuse their power. Cal seems to only really affect Bro, Jack, and Gamzee. Other characters like John don't seem to be influenced because they don't have it in them.

My guy you need to calm down

true.

Dang I didn’t get here in time to make an early joke

Yeah, I second that. The vocals could stand to be turned up a couple notches.

Same, The music was a little bit too loud and it was hard hearing taz's analysis

well it is just part one

Lobster True, but the last 4 videos were all above 8 minutes in length, and this one is close to 7. This isn’t a judgement, just an observation. OD might have been busy when it was made and didn’t have enough time to record the script laid out or something.

the reason theres a cal in his room, is because gamzee put it there. it didnt manifest

Leonus 2422 Oop, you’re right. Apologies.

YOU CANT ESCAPE ME ERIDAN I WILL ALWAYS FIND YOU.

@@adgVelaepyaety IF I CAN'T SEE YOU, YOU CAN'T SEE ME

eridan ampora WE CAN ALL SEE YOU YOU WILL NEVER ESCAPE.

Dont you mean "Ivve been wwaiting"

@@adgVelaepyaety I CAN DAMN WELL TRY

Thats what happens when Homestuck 2 affects the mind body and soul you start confusing stuff.

none of the aspects are inherently all good. Each one represents not only elements of the narrative but problems their players struggle against. the Condesce and Jane in Homestuck 2 are examples of the dark side of the life aspect. The only hope players we've seen outline the dark side of their aspects, too. Eridan was very hopeless, pathetic, clueless, and arguably the same can be said about Jake. I'd love to see a video talking more about this though @OD. Right now Jane really needs to get past the dark tendencies of the life aspect

@@clairehunt4776 I think we need a look on all of the dark sides of classes and aspects... Sure, I know our dude here making all the research here still doesn't have all the answers, but I don't blame him; I believe that should be Hussie and the new narrator's job... Since they invented them

Tavros, the reluctant *heir* with his head in the *clouds.* Dave, the *knight* who is terrified of the *hours* of dangerous duty. Jane, the *maid* who wants to *live life* on her whim without regard to the consequences. Vriska, the *thief* who once *stole* (something) from everyone is seeking for something of her *own.*

@@puddel9079 Tavros is a Page.

@@lordbuss I see, thank you for pointing that out.

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Hey! I’m a fan!

Lol

Dove Stripper is a close second though

Dabe Stidrer.

Dofk Streiedr

This.

Can you elaborate? How does this work?

There is nothing specifically about alt right in video, i suspect you are using the term "alt right" as a general equivalent of "bad". (aka "this water tastes like Hitler":ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ySvBeLGAo_E.html)

@@lordbuss i dont care go out side and kick a foot ball

You're so early, your comment says it was made a week before this video was posted

@@LampSt Patreon supporters get early access to videos.

Not sure about OD, but there is an analysis: bladekindeyewear.tumblr.com/post/114721173059/steven-universe-homestuck-classes-and-aspects

That's deliberate, my classpect model considers Knights passive and Pages active, as I've covered in several videos.

Maybe not the best choice of words when talking about Bro Strider

@@StarlitBawka Yea lol