Another Breja ToneWorks DIY video - this time we'll go over wiring a HSH style guitar with a Master Vol and Master Tone. You'll end up with 7 different pickup combinations and the ability to split the HBs for even more combinations.
Well now I know what my next project is. I’ve had an old (1999) Squier Stagemaster HSH of this same 2 pot configuration taken apart and stored up in my attic for at least 12 years. I always wanted to put the old girl back together and coil split the pickups with push/pulls but I never knew how, until now. This vid is exactly what I needed. THANK YOU!
Love it. I've done this mod adding a mini-toggle - but in recent years i'm getting more and more hesitant to go crazy drilling holes - especially on USA-made guitars. Now I see exactly how to do ti with the push-pull and I'm gonna give it a whirl. Thanks! Glad I found your channel -this is pro-quality information. It's worth $$ - you should monetize.
Hi Don I'm having major difficulty wiring my Ultra Telecaster, it has a neck Delta tone ,single coil, a stack at the mid, and a hot rails at the bridge? 5 way switch and two push pull pots? Plus I want to add the blend pot to this set up? Can you help me? I've just watched your hsh vid.Thank you
If you don't run a Class for Guitar Electronics , then you should , Bloke . You are the Ducks Nuts ! I've been racking my Brain for about 3 Years as to how to marry my Jem with 2 Push/Pulls , and I kept coming up Blank except for coil Splitting , which I can do without P/P's . Thank you very much .My stress levels just got smashed ! Hooroo, Cobber.
Considering making a HSS strat with coil-split and 7 way wiring. So 500k Push/pull pot for bridge, and 250k push/pull for neck. + Stacked 500k+250k volume pot :)
Thanks for the info Don! Question...do you have any suggestions on what to check if after following these instructions, the middle pup experiences a big volume drop when the 5 way is in any position other than 3/middle?
Great video, thanks! I plan on trying this over the weekend, but only have I push-pull pot and one standard. If I wanted to omit the 7-way mod, can I just skip those wiring steps or do I need to adjust anywhere else in the diagram to close all the circuits?
Could you layout a wiring diagram featuring a mini toggle with the push pull volume pot? This is a great video. Also could any additional tones be achieved by adding a toggle in addition to?
Thank you so much for this. I have only 2 wires coming out of the humbuckers so one is hot and the other is ground. I just dont know how to wire them to the 5 way switch. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.
This is interesting and works fine for the coil splitting, but it's not correct for the bridge pickup switching. There should not be a jumper from the switch A1 to B1 as this joins the bridge pickup to the common. Instead, a 2nd wire should run from A1 on the 5 way switch to A2 of the vol pot switch. This replaces the wire shown from the 5 way switch B4 to the vol pot switch. It will then work correctly. As a side note, in normal strat switching mode, if you have that quiet out of phase sound in positions 2 and 4, you can reverse the wires on the middle pickup.
Has this correction been proven valid? If the final diagram in the video is wrong I’d like to know it before proceeding with this wiring scheme. Which is correct?
Hi, I know it's been a while since you wrote your comment, but I would still like to ask you to help me with my circuit, Which is based on the one from the video
Breja ToneWorks Yes I'm really happy with this config, although when vol pot is down the neck is split and bridge is in series, and vice versa. It's actually really cool this way and I haven't looked into changing it. There were a couple differences between the narration and the diagram, and I don't remember which way I went with but that might explain it.
Hey I hope you can reply me I bought all the components to make a dave murray strat and have HHH pickups (2 humbuckers and one hot rail in the middle) I wired it all up however I am getting a low twangy sound from all the pickups as if there is half the output... is there a scheme for a normal hhh wiring with one volume (push pull) and two normal tone caps? thanks in advance
Hi, I'm trying to do a variation on this where the 5-way works the "standard" way, and the end result mostly is the same, but with a couple distinct differences. The option with all three pickups is not available, and rather than changing the functionality of the 5-way, the extra switch overrides the 5-way instead so it always gives you the neck/bridge parallel when the switch is engaged. A third switch determines whether the humbuckers are split or not in parallel mode, but not otherwise. The ultimate goal is to be able to go from the bridge-humbucker (or whichever setting you have) to the neck/bridge parallel by just hitting a 2-way switch, which you can do in a fast and not necessarily precise motion. The signal routing works correctly, but there are some side effects I can't seem to get rid of. The middle pickup won't shut up in parallel mode with the coil tap disengaged, and in regular 5-way mode any pickup not having the hot wire connected to the jack tip still pick up sound. Any suggestions on how to mend the problem while still maintaining the desired functionality?
Hey Don - any suggested wiring mods for a HSS that all 3 pups use a 4 conductor wire where your 2 SS are of the rails variety or will the 2 unused color wires always get terminated in shrink sleeving? Thank you.
Great info. I have a 1993 Gibson LP Studio Lite with the M3 Electronics. It has the same HSH arrangement and a 5 way switch, but uses a single mini-toggle (DPDT) to split the coils to single coil mode. Not sure how I would do this with the configuration I have on my Les Paul Studio. Is there a diagram I can download or access? I am also not sure of the color coding of the original Gibson 496R (Neck) and 500T (bridge) pickups. Thanks and super well done video. Thanks. Phil NYC Area
Hello man! I've been studying carefully your vids since I'm really interested in modding my own guitars, love the one on 5 way switches, really cleared that one up for me, combined with a website I found about DPDT switches I was able to analize the working of your switching scheme. Please correct me if I'm wrong As far as I can tell the available combinations using your scheme are: [Volume pot down, tone pot down] Pos1: Humbucker bridge Pos2: Humbucker bridge and middle Pos3: Middle Pos4: Middle and humbucking neck Pos5: Humbucking neck [Volume pot down, tone pot up] Pos1: Single bridge Pos2: Single bridge and middle Pos3: Middle Pos4: Middle and Single neck Pos5: Single neck [Volume pot up, tone pot up or down] Pos1: Same as before Pos2: Same as before Pos3: Sames as before Pos4: All Humbucking + middle on Pos5: Bridge and Neck Humbucking Btw, thanks for sharing your awesome knowledge
@@BrejaToneWorks I'm sorry, but I don't agree. I think he is wrong. I can't see a reason why the tone pot further shouldn't split the humbuckers when the volume pot is up. The only thing the volume pot up does is to add the bridge pickup to the positions 4 an 5 of the switch. I can't see where there could be any influence to the coil split. In my opinion the correct combinations should be: ... [Volume pot up, tone pot down] Pos1: Same as before Pos2: Same as before Pos3: Same as before Pos4: All Humbucking + middle on Pos5: Bridge and Neck Humbucking [Volume pot up, tone pot up] Pos1: Same as before Pos2: Same as before Pos3: Same as before Pos4: all three Single Pos5: Bridge and Neck Single So your wiring has overall 13 possible pickup combinations. If I'm wrong with this opinion please be so kind to explain me my mistake, thank you. best regards
@@mattesb4281 thanks for this clarification. i really needed it, since i did the mod, and frankly, some positions do sound the same to my ears, so i need to map these combos. today i used a multimeter to see the values in every position. in the middle position the value was the same (in all combinations), obviously cause it cant be split, but on the bridge position & bridge + middle with vol pot up has the same values as vol pot down.
Hey Gerald, where did you find the diagram with three nobs? I need one that just shows how to coil split but has, master volume, tone neck middle, tone bridge with coil split
hi thnx 4 this.. one question, about having DiMarzios Pickups, they have the same color code. Should i wired them as you say. ? i mean before . in my dimarzios, the RED was my hot. green and bare to the ground. and B&W both alone.. Thanks You
This is AWESOME...thank you SO much, Don. One question - Can you or anyone here please explain how to add a phase toggle switch to this particular modification?
Praise God...I was able to figure it out. You just blessed me very much. I just finished a JEM DIY kit, purple and gold, and I did this wiring mod with a humbucker in the middle and a phase switch. It is beautiful...Thank you, Don!
Been looking around a lot but can't seem to find anything that'll work, maybe you have some advice? Hsh strat, 5 way, 1 volume (push pull) 2 tone, coil split- Bridge, bridge middle, bridge neck, neck middle, all 3. Same with split, but instead of neck middle just middle. Have a 3 way toggle and a pile of asorted standar pots, aside from the hsh gear. Any way i can make this work?
Thanks for sharing Don, I'm trying to figure out how Alvin Lee had his single coil wired in between his two humbuckers care too help? Hope all is well!!!
Can you use the 2 tones for the coil splits? Both push/pull and have the master volume without the push pull. Im basically doing this exact build, but I have 2 cts push pull pots 500k and a standard cts 500k pot. And a normal 1 volume 2 tone strat. Im building the hsh currently.
This was a great walkthrough. Do you know what the difference would be if I wanted the 7 way mod to work in the 1st and 2nd positions on the switch rather than the 4th and 5th?
Hello Breja, for what applies to my situation, is working beautifully. I wired it exactly as shown for the bridge and neck pickup. I have a push/pull for the volume and first tone and a regular 500k for the second tone pot. My middle pickup is a DiMarzio P Rail I believe(4 wires like a humbucker). I ran the hot to A2 and the pole wires to L3 on the second tone pot and it isn't doing anything. The 1st tone is actually controlling it. Might you have any tips for me? I'm ready to go all Jimi Hendrix on it and smash it and set it on fire.
+Mustang Nut Email me directly at BrejaToneWorks@gmail.com With a HB in the middle position - I'm not sure what you wired to L3. Email me and I'll try to help. Don
Hi @@BrejaToneWorks I'm about to wire 3 DiMarzios in HSH with hum canceling (four wires) Area pickup in the middle. Can you forward that email to me too please? Thanks. zaakkk@yahoo.com
Dear friend, how is the configuration if in the volume I put the coil split and in the tone two types .22 and .47. Thanks for you answer. Congratulations.
Great video, congrats. Can you share the same wiring diagram but using Dimarzio color code or indicate which one is North Start, Nort End, South Start and South End for Humbucker. It will very helpfull for me Thanks
This is absolutely awesome video and this is what i am going to do with my hsh guitar that i am about to buy. my question is - for the bridge pickup coming through volume push/pull switch why do we need to go through the B1 and B4? cant we just simply connect A1 from the 5 way switch to the A2 of the voolume push/pull pot? Thank you!
Hi Don, want to do this mod using 3 hot rail pickups and 3 DPDT toggle switches, so I can split all 3 pickups individually. Would you have a diagram to help please.
In this wiring. Volume pots activated. You can choose whether all pickup or neck and bridge. In all pickup. Can we coil split so we can have like a sss config
When you were explaining the wiring for the seven way switch from B4 on the five way switch to a1 on the push poll switch your diagram shows b4 from the five way to a2 on the push poll is the wiring correct or is it actually a1?
I was plotting the circuit. At position 4 and 5(Bridge, Mid) connecting A1 to B1 keeps A3 (neck hot) open. B1 (common) to B4 ( bridge ) still does not connect A2 to any pot or push pull switch. I connected wires to my switch and did short ckt test, A2(neck) remain no connection. Any advise on how to make the neck for neck- mid-bridge and neck- bridge combo using the push pull switch?
This is great, but I wondered about one part....At time 3:42 you mention a jumper from A1 to B1 then from A4 to L2 of the volume pot; but the video show you wiring to L1 of the volume pot; I don't want to mess up, so do I wire to L1 or L2?
i would like all these options plus an option to spilt just the neck and bridge separately and without the middle pickup to get a close to telecaster tone how would I accomplish this
hey i understood all them..n they r too easy to remember and its too helpful to people lyk me 😆😆😆 bt whats those things over the potentiometers ...i want to know... can u pls help me
*I CANT TAKE IT ANY MORE! IM IN ARKANSAS, ALREADY HAD 2 LUTHEIR SCREW MY GUITAR UP BAD! I HAD TO BUY NEW PICKS ETC...... I ONLY HAVE (x1) on/on TOGGLE SWITCH for splitting the neck pickup. I thought I had it figured and it ws working but then my pickups went MICROPHONIC and middle position cuts out. How do I change this diagram to reflect (x)1 on/on toggle?* #NOTE I have a regular 5 way switch and I have the (5H) replacement for a 1991 Ibanez RG550.
Just wired this up in 100 accuracy. in saitch position 3 i should have only single pickup but i have a bridge. As well i can not split bridge from neck in switch 5th position with volume push pull- i think it was designed to do that. Think that cause A1 is conected with B1 on switch. Will try tomorrow to solder A1 to B4 and that should in my opinion works like suposed. Just dont know if vol pot should go from A3 to ground instead to L1
+Benjamin Greer Positions 2 and 4 will be identical to a normal Strat's position 2 and 4 - Bridge/Middle in Parallel or Neck/Middle in Parallel. In short - yes, you'll get the same hum cancelling as on a regular Strat. Don
Hey your videos are great and have taught me alot! I'm building a guitar with this wiring scheme but instead it has a sustainiac system getting installed in place of the neck pickup. There is also a killswitch. So im a little confused how i would split the sustainiac driver(neck pickup). I'd really appreciate if you can help out in anyway. Great videos and Thanks! @brejatoneworks
hello Don I,m doing this to my strat but I,m a litte confused on the push pull switch could you please show a picture of a switch showing top and bottom and label it 123 a1 a2 a3 I know I,m being lame but its better to ask than make a mistake Thank You and many Thanks for showing us how to do these mods Thanks John
It's a great video. But I'm a little confused, what is there in the screen differs a little from what you are saying. It would be great to get the clarifications. The issues are mostly with Volume pot wiring for 6th and 7th position. It would be great if you can help.
Don, you said to wire up the 5 way switch go from B4 on the 5 way switch to A1 on the push pull switch but the illustration is showing you go to A2 of the push pull switch, witch way is correct? You also said to go from A4 of the 5 way switch to L2 of the volume pot but the illustration is showing it going from A4 of the 5 way switch to L1 of the volume pot so should we follow the illustration or do what you say?
Could this be done without the 7 way switching and with just the 5 way? I want to split the humbuckers in 2 and 4 and have master volume and tone for all pickups in hsh configuration?
3:42 to 3:51 of this video: from 5-way switch to master volume. On the diagram, it was A4 to L1 but u said that from A4 to L2. Which is the correct one, the diagram or the words u've said?
Yeah - I noticed this was a error and he did it again in the video from tone back to vol. At the end I noticed the full diagram which is what I am going to go on.
I’m building my son a guitar and searching your videos for assistance. It’s a start style, I’m splitting hotrails on individual on-off-on switches, adding phase switches for the singles, and I want separate tone control for when in single and humbucker, but single volume control. I’m adding push pull pots to have capacitors on each tone control. I’m good with most of it, but confused about how to set up the tone pots? Any ideas? My son wants a combo strat, LP, Ted special and Gilmore.... not asking for much is he!
I found another discrepancy betwen your diagrams and your verbal instructions. At 4:18 you said wire from B4 on the 5 way to A1 on the volume push/pull but the diagram is showing A2. Which is correct? Thanks.
Chris, where you able to figure this out? B1 is common. Neck pup is at A3 remains no connection towards any pot at pos 4 and 5. I was trying to understand this and seems there is a mistake
I have a 5 way switch with the connectors in a straight line numbered from 1 to 8. How should I do the numbering? Option 1: A1 = 1 A2 = 2 A3 = 3 A4 = 4 B1 = 5 B2 = 6 B3 = 7 B4 = 8 Option 2: A1 = 1 A2 = 3 A3 = 5 A4 = 7 B1 = 2 B2 = 4 B3 = 6 B4 = 8
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How to use parallel pickup connection instead of coil split?
Hi Breja! i watched this and another of your videos similar to this but i'm completely ignorant of anything to do with wires so this is what i'm looking for. I'm making a strat body that is a rear routed HSH. Im looking for a configuration where i can get each independent pickup , along with the original single coil 'far left' and 'second to left' position sound. Is this the video for me? Or is the "Super HSH wiring scheme" video what i want?
+TheSGman66 If you have the letters SG in your name and you don't own an SG, that's a crime. :) Anywho... When you say far left, I'm a bit confused. Normally the positions would be like: 1 = Neck, 2 = Neck/Middle, 3 = Middle, 4 = Middle/Bridge and 5=Bridge. This mod will give you all of those positions along with 6 = Neck/Bridge and 7 = Neck/Middle/Bridge. Of course, if you split the HBs, you will get the same combinations but with single coils instead of humbuckers. This mod splits both HBs at the same time but if you would prefer to split them independently, you'll need an additional switch. If you're not interested in things like phase - I'd tell you to stick with this mod. Hope this helps... If, not - email directly at: BrejaToneWorks@gmail.com Don
Love your videos! I want to mod a guitar so that it is HSH with only one volume pot (no tone or 7 way mod) with coil split. Is there a way I can do that?
+Paul S Well hopefully your Dad knows you're using his account. A guitar with not tone control? Why? That's so sad. Anyways - Yes, you can do such a mod however you need to decide. Are you going to split both HBs or just one? If you split both, they will split at same time meaning you won't have a HSS or SSH but either a HSH or SSS. If that's ok with you - watch my video on Guitar Switches: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C77GaqVjqbI.html at around the 7:20 mark. You'd just simply wire both HBs up to either side of the Switch and you're good to go. If you need more help, email me directly at: brejatoneworks@gmail.com
+Breja ToneWorks Sorry for the late response. I was thinking about it, and finally decided I would leave the tone pot on. I discovered some really chunky rhythm tones that I really like (although I mostly play lead, there are some times I need a good crunch tone). So I'll leave the tone on, and split both HBs at once with the tone pot. Thanks so much for the help! Oh, and yeah, my dad knows that I'm using his account.
hey Don i did this mod and found that both my middle pickup and the bridge pickup wont work, they dont do anything in any combination, can you help me out?
that's quite easy: don't connect the coilsplit wires of both humbuckers (red and white) to the tone pot (A2 and B2 of the tone pot) and also don't connect A3 and B3 of the tone pot to ground. On each humbucker the red and white wires have just to be connected together, of course separately for each humbucker and not all four wires together! (they should already have been connected when you bought the pickups). don't connect these red and white wires to any pot or switch, just isolate them. then connect the B4 of the 5way switch to A2 of the tone pot instead of A2 of the volume pot and connect A3 of the tone pot to L1 of the volume pot instead of A3 to L1 each of the volume pot. wire everything else as shown in the video, that's it. You will get the 7way switch option when the tone pot is up and no coil split.
+Midnight Conversations You have an Import Version of the switch. Normally though they'd have 8 lugs too. If yours has only 7 - more than likely lug # 4 (starting from the top) would represent lugs A4+B1 on my drawings.
