HTC Vive supersampling setting: Graphic comparison and instructions

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An explanation of the new supersampling setting for SteamVR with graphics comparisons and instructions.
Open the steamvr.vrsettings file under Steam\config with Notepad and add this line under "steamvr" :
"renderTargetMultiplier" : 1.5,
The last statement under "steamvr" should NOT end with a comma, so add the above statement before "showStage"
See these Reddit posts for more details:
/ psa_supersampling_on_t...
/ updated_yet_again_chap...
UPDATE - Best settings for Elite Dangerous:
Elite: Dangerous has an in-game graphics option called "HMD Image Quality" that basically does the same thing as setting supersampling in Vive, so this tweak is not necessary, but it will give you increased graphics across all games.
The structure of the config file has changed since making this video, it may look different than the example shown on the screen. The only section in the config file that matters for the purpose of this video is "steamvr" so the appearance of the other sections should be left alone.
If you want an easier way to manage SteamVR SS values without editing config files, check out this program OpenVR Advanced Settings:
github.com/matzman666/OpenVR-...

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@LeonSKennedyRE4 8 лет назад

I just wanted to say thank you so much for showing the visual comparison. That was exactly what I was hoping to see. Keep up the good work as always!

@ZentexE 8 лет назад

Thanks for this video. Been looking for a clear way to do this for a while!

@ahreeves 7 лет назад

ok thanks Bubble for the help. my problem is I need a great tutorial for this thing called "my new Rig". LOL I really need to take the time to read and see all the folks out there have been doing this gaming thing and see how they started. Guys like you are invaluable. Again a gracious thank.

@crregazzamerone 8 лет назад

thank you for the advise. I will try this out tomorrow my friend.

@bobbycratchet3958 7 лет назад

For those new to this change you will need to restart Steam for that change to apply.Even though you've saved the change to the config file the old config lines are still in play. Restart and all will become clear er.

@peytonfaz 6 лет назад

My suggestion is to have the super sampling thing open in the background and when you start losing frames press the menu button and go to the desktop option at the bottom and adjust the super sampling on the go. If you didn't know now you can adjust the SS from the steam vr settings without having to do any notepad stuff or typing.

@HybridEnergy 7 лет назад

What's the theoratical Max of the SS for the VIVE? Assuming you have CPU Intel code named Chuck Norris and a 1980ti gtx from the future?

@MightyPacifist 6 лет назад

Under where its in the developer tab, i literally have no slider or section that says super sampling? Do you might know why?

@thataqwesomekid 4 года назад

You are the man, thank you

@chunkylover5367 8 лет назад

There's also an app, if you search for it on Reddit, that you can adjust the multiplier without having to get into the JSON config file.

@Bumble49 8 лет назад

Yeah, I linked it in the description: www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4qguq9/updated_yet_again_chaperone_manager_supersampling/

@LenSharoFF 8 лет назад

Have to try this! =) Thanks for the tut! Now Im a guy seeing the world in DVD quality and not HD (cause I hate wearing glasses) Now imagine how ED looks like from my eyes without super sampling. Those text menus and stuff ar just berely readable. Have you changed your hood color? Heard that blue is a more friendly color for you eyes. But haven't played ED that much lately because of all the other awesome roomscale shizzle. Looking forward to get in to the Flight sim games soon again

@intrepid35sweden 7 лет назад

Could you post your backup file? Mine lost a bunch of information for some reason without me changing anything (everything still works though)

@mytrollingacc 7 лет назад

I actually want to get VR to play elite as well, but i own elite from Frontier's online store and not through Steam. How would I be able to change my settings to use the supersampling setting?

@Bumble49 7 лет назад

If you get a Vive the VR will run through SteamVR regardless of whether the game was launched from Steam or not, so these settings still apply. If you get a Rift then it uses a different system for VR and these settings won't do anything, but now there is an in-game graphics option called "HMD Image Quality" that does the same thing basically

@mytrollingacc 7 лет назад

Sweet - didn't know that about the Vive, thanks. So it sounds like they have included a setting to change in-game that solves this, correct? So stoked for VR but I'm kind of waiting for the price to come down is a year or two (i hope)

@Bumble49 7 лет назад

Thats right, the in-game setting solves the issues with text legibility and overall graphical sharpness, so using SteamVR is not necessary, but still works fine, with the advantage of working across all SteamVR games

@REMMc-jx7vc 7 лет назад

Do I need to do this? Purchased January 2017

@REMMc-jx7vc 7 лет назад

Ok did some reading how do you get Steam VR beta? Thanks

@HybridEnergy 7 лет назад

Since 1.0 = 1.4 in the Vive, can you actually go the other way and lower it? to say .6 and then it should be 1.0 theoretically?

@Bumble49 7 лет назад

Yep, you can set the supersampling lower than 1.0 to make the graphics worse and performance better

@HybridEnergy 7 лет назад

Thanks :)

@CrowFGC 7 лет назад

On a 1080 with 2.0 settings, can you stay above 100 fps in VR?

@Bumble49 7 лет назад

Not in Elite: Dangerous, but in most Unity or Unreal games you can

@TheDropdeadZed 7 лет назад

Hmm...it does make a fairly noticeable difference with the text. It's probably even better on other games but I don't personally feel like I would be missing out much if I had no supersampling or only a small amount of supersampling.

@stephenbender8481 7 лет назад

Can I get 2.0 supersampling on a GTX 1080?

@cozze4619 8 лет назад

Is there a difference between setting up the supersampling with this method and using the ingame option in graphic settings to increase supersampling?

@Bumble49 8 лет назад

+Cozze Yes, this option works better than the in-game option, not sure why. I turned off the in-game supersampling and use this instead

@REMMc-jx7vc 7 лет назад

I only have this "keyboard" : { "TutorialCompletions" : 1 }, "steamvr" : { "CycleBackgroundImageTimeSec" : 3600, "background" : "#0D0D0DFF", "backgroundUseDomeProjection" : true, "directModeEdidPid" : 43521, "directModeEdidVid" : 53794, "mirrorViewGeometry" : "0 0 1080 600" } } in my vr settings am I missing something?

@Scouter5050 6 лет назад

What about gtx 1060x ? Plus I can't find this line of code so i'm going to put this into my notepad and then try 2.0

@Bumble49 6 лет назад

Yeah they took out this code and changed the SS scaling values in SteamVR, you can definitely handle 2.0 with a 1060, maybe even 2.5 or 3.0

@kamealex 7 лет назад

With Revive, it's very east to get massive judder with games like Chronos. Can this help?

@Bumble49 7 лет назад

Does Revive force the game to run through SteamVR? That's the only way I see it helping, I haven't used Revive yet though so I'm not sure

@MaxP0607 4 года назад

i don;t have the text in that file at all please help

@frenzy2101 6 лет назад

Do you think i can get 2.5x with a GTX 1080?

@melbuh7016 6 лет назад

i would love to see an updated video about this (for dummies), with actual drivers and actual ED version and so on. i am new to the vive and overwhelmed by the amount of possibilities and the amount of different infos in the internet. SS in steamcfg, SS Slider in SteamVR, SS in Game Option, HMD quality. O_o

@Bumble49 6 лет назад

These config tweaks aren't necessary anymore, the SteamVR SS slider replaced this method. You should use either HMD Image Quality or SteamVR SS with E:D, but don't mix the values. HMD Image Quality at 2.0 is roughly equivalent to SteamVR SS at 5.0. You're right it's confusing. I will look into making another video about it, thanks for the feedback!

@drunkunmunkey2484 6 лет назад

Yes make another! I’m in the same bout. 1080 and a 7700k and I still have blurry text. And fighting with keeping the FPS up.

@chazcov08 7 лет назад

Just added a second 1080 GTX OC for SLI. Trying out 2.5 and it LOOKS great, but it's a bit stuttery. I'm going to try 2.0 and see if that works.

@inyobase127 7 лет назад

Charles Coverly is there an sli profile out for elite dangerous vr?

@marcolozano9321 7 лет назад

my gpu is 970 should i do this

@stuald 7 лет назад

This is brilliant!!! Thanks mate it looks awesome! There is only one thing I have zotac gtx 1080, i7 skylake, 16 gb of ddr4 and on "renderTargetMultiplier" : 2.0 I'm experiencing quite a lot of stutter... :(

@UpsilonX 7 лет назад

2.0 isn't reachable in most games, 1.5 or 1.6 is more than enough to make games look great usually :)

@WeAreNoStudio 8 лет назад

Does 2xSS positively affect watching movies in virtual desktop mode?

@Bumble49 8 лет назад

It should, as long as you run Virtual Desktop through Steam

@azure8285 6 лет назад

Do you feel any extra latency or input lag when you play with supersampling enabled?

@Bumble49 6 лет назад

No, but if you turn it up too high then your FPS will drop and you might experience stuttering

@luke0346 8 лет назад

Probably not best to do this on a 970 with no OC right? Gonna be getting 1080 (or sli 1080) or the 1080ti, depending on when i can afford, how high can you multiply?

@Bumble49 8 лет назад

Yeah with a 970 it probably isn't worth it. I think you can multiply as high as you want, but after 2.5 you're going to reach diminishing returns where the effects aren't noticeable anymore

@luke0346 8 лет назад

Ah awesome, Thanks for the heads up Mr bumble :)

@zimatom007 8 лет назад

+Bumble I own gtx970 and it is ok on 2.0 settings. I don't have ED but it was smooth with Space Pirate Trainer, Audioshield and The Blu - much sharper

@justsomedudegaming7878 8 лет назад

Quick question sir is the in-game Supersampling option just affect the Monitor graphics? Not the Vive HMD?

@Bumble49 8 лет назад

It does affect the graphics you see in the Vive HMD

@justsomedudegaming7878 8 лет назад

Yes I notice it does now but thanks for the reply

@stcma7mvg71 7 лет назад

Will this work in virtual desktop?

@Tcholico1 7 лет назад

I dont have anything like audio or collision bounds. I only have Keyboard and SteamVR. What do I do?

@Bumble49 7 лет назад

SteamVR is the only section that matters for the purposes of this video, so you can still make the tweaks to that section Alternatively, you can download this program that lets you set the SS without going into config files: github.com/matzman666/OpenVR-AdvancedSettings

@USN7119 7 лет назад

i downloaded that and changed the supersampling rates and am getting errors on almost every game i try to launch any advice for a fix? would be much appreciated thx

@Bumble49 7 лет назад

I'm not sure, I have never used the program myself

@TheEzo01 8 лет назад

how's the 980ti on x2 sampling, in matter if performance ?

@Bumble49 8 лет назад

x2 gives me very noticeable choppiness in Elite, well below 90fps.

@jeffbrownme2 8 лет назад

I have a 1070, arguable equal in performance to a 980 ti. Think I should stick to 1.5?

@Bumble49 8 лет назад

Yeah, go with 1.5 and tweak it from there, I personally turned mine down to 1.3 with the 980ti just to make sure I maintain 90fps.

@bert6762 8 лет назад

+Bumble hi Bumble, enjoying your channel & all the Vive content, with the aid of your video, just Sussed 1.3 is also the sweet spot for Project Cars and a 980ti which I installed today! Don't know what I did wrong but it took me 4 hours to get everything running again, got there in the end. Worst card install ever experienced.... Phew!

@Bumble49 8 лет назад

Yeah installing computer components can be a pain in the ass sometimes, but I'm glad it ended up working! Supersampling makes a huge difference, especially in games with good graphics like Project CARS and E:D

@Calin89us 7 лет назад

Hey man. I have a problem. When I entered the steamvr.vrsettings file, under the "steamvr" section, I only had "background", "basestationpowermanagement" and "mirrorview geometry". Now I am aware that the lines of code differ from player to player based on their exact setting, but when I added ""renderTargetMultiplier" : 2.0," and entered the game...it did nothing... Any advice on where I might've bashed things up? Thank you and Merry Christmas!

@TitoPai 7 лет назад

Same prob :(

@Calin89us 7 лет назад

Good news man. Follow this link and download the ADVANCE SETTINGS 2.1. First you launch STEAM VR from the STEAM menu, and then, from your desktop while STEAM VR is running, launch the ADVANCE SETTINGS tab you just downloaded. Then inside the VIVE while browsing on STEAM you will see the ADVANCE SETTINGS TAB appear. From there you can modify the supersampling from 1.0 to 4.0 in 0.1 increments. Word of advice: If you have a kickass desktop, you can play the VIVE games on 2.5 supersampling without lagging. If you play Oculus Rift games using the REVIVE app, then my advice is not to go higher than 1.5...or they will be laggy A.F. I hope this helped you and all other people who had problems playing with the supersampling. Link: github.com/matzman666/OpenVR-AdvancedSettings/releases

@MrPokesmot32 7 лет назад

What link?

@Calin89us 7 лет назад

github.com/matzman666/OpenVR-AdvancedSettings/releases

@MrPokesmot32 7 лет назад

Kelvus thanks

@DanWunderBurst 8 лет назад

on the 1080 would you recommend 1.8?

@Bumble49 8 лет назад

Hard to say since I only have a 980ti at the moment, I would probably start at 2.0 and decrease it by .1 until you can get 90fps To make sure you're maintaining 90fps, go into the SteamVR settings and check if it says "missed frames", that indicates you're dipping below 90fps

@kenmasters007 8 лет назад

any apps that show me FPS via the vive HMD?

@Bumble49 8 лет назад

Not that I know of, which makes it pretty hard to benchmark the Vive. Basically you just want to look for re-projection, which is where you will see trails in the game when you move your head fast or move your controller around. Reprojection kicks in if you drop below 90 fps and it causes the game to run at 45 FPS and double each frame. No reprojection means you're good, but if you experience any reprojection then you should lower your SS settings.

@crashcourse1999 7 лет назад

if you press the steam button on the vive it will popup your menu and it says your fps as the bottom

@TheBigb1973 7 лет назад

or download advanced settings. then you can do all this in the vr menu

@frenzy2101 6 лет назад

Can i play in x2 with a gtx 1080?

@akyura00 5 лет назад

TheTitinGamer ye

@BahKooJMusic 7 лет назад

every time i put the command in it just deletes it when I lunch the vive!

@okthen1166 7 лет назад

save it

@elitespa 8 лет назад

Oculus have used this for long time ago, "debug tool" "pixel density"

@d.oconnor4047 7 лет назад

Heya man, so I'm about to get a Rift, and I was hoping that I would be able to enable an option similar to this, so I was wondering, how would I go about adjusting this "pixel density" that you speak of once I have the rift in my possession? Thanks

@dnauel9700 7 лет назад

i have a radeon R9 390 series yet it lags even at 1.5

@HybridEnergy 7 лет назад

I have that card too, I have to set it to .6 lol . AMD doesn't give a damn about VR unfortunately. Red team is toast in VR.

@Legoloveradam 8 лет назад

I don't see renderTargetMultiplier under steamvr, what to do?

@galvanizeddreamer2051 8 лет назад

You have to write the line yourself.

@Legoloveradam 8 лет назад

don't worry I used the app.

@galvanizeddreamer2051 8 лет назад

Adam H Whatever works!

@TotalGAMIX 2 года назад

please do an update

@Emilx-yh7sj 5 лет назад

What about 1060 6gb?

@ahreeves 7 лет назад

ntel Core i7, MOBO ASUS H110M-E/M.2, Asus Turbo GTX 1080 8 GB GDDR5X, 32 GB DDR4 2400, 1TB HDD SATA III, 240 GB SSD SATA III... would love to learn how to find the resolution and refresh rate parameters on it, and then try your software work around to boost it more. Great vid though, thanks

@mrone-rj1bn 7 лет назад

Hi! there's not so much text in my file, other than a few rows: { "steamvr" : { "background" : "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Steam\\steamapps\\common\\SteamVR\ esources\\backgrounds\\viveNight.png", "mirrorViewGeometry" : "145 107 1080 600" } } could you tell me where to add it?

@Bumble49 7 лет назад

Hi, This video is a bit outdated. Try using this program to manage the SS settings instead: github.com/matzman666/OpenVR-AdvancedSettings

@mrone-rj1bn 7 лет назад

Bumble i've downloaded it and installed it, but i don't know how to open it, could you please instruct me how?

@mrone-rj1bn 7 лет назад

Bumble and what do i change there once it is open..

@Bumble49 7 лет назад

I'm not sure, I don't actually use the program myself. If you're trying to increase the image quality in Elite: Dangerous then you can do in through the in-game graphics menu with "HMD Image Quality", I use that instead of SteamVR SS

@mrone-rj1bn 7 лет назад

Hi! Actually i opened it in VR and changed some settings. I increased SS to 1.5 and the vision improved a tiny bit, i could read text a tiny bit better. then i increased it to 2.0 and the frames dropped significantly, then 1.8 was ok. But SDE is still there :( then I read this on vrtalk.com : Resolution on the Vive is 2160x1200 (1080x1200 per eye) overall, with a lot of crossover in the middle. The big difference between your monitor and an HMD is pixels per degree in your field of vision. Where your monitor makes up about 25° of your FoV, the Vive with roughly the same resolution spreads over 110° of your FoV so the resolution will appear much lower. Seems i have to live with it :(. Thanks for the help anyway.

@EricMalette 6 лет назад

SteamVR has a Gui interface for this now, correct?

@Bumble49 6 лет назад

Yeah it does, and the SS values scale linearly now, so the 2.0 SS in this video is the equivalent of 4.0 SS with the new system

@EricMalette 6 лет назад

So I should just set this to as high as my PC will tolerate?

@Bumble49 6 лет назад

Yep, just fiddle around with it until you find a good balance of quality/performance

@choppaholic26 7 лет назад

What in game res do you use in Elite?

@Bumble49 7 лет назад

In VR it displays at 2160x1200 (1080x1200 per eye), for this mirror window that I record for these videos it's at 1920x1080

@Hakeem597 7 лет назад

I have a GTX 1060 laptop... I cranked it all the way up (3.0) and I am able to also put the game on the highest settings. Not a bit of performance degradation whatsoever. I am using mini DP to mini DP. No issues.

@DiamondTear 7 лет назад

I'm guessing you did it wrong and didn't take.

@Hakeem597 7 лет назад

daflik are you talking about??

@DiamondTear 7 лет назад

Hakeem Hakim I'M SAYING YOU FUCKED UP AND DIDN'T ACTUALLY CHANGE ANYTHING. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE NOT GETTING A PERFORMANCE DROP WITH 3.0

@Hakeem597 7 лет назад

You dumb JACKASS!!! I'm not getting a performance drop. I have an increase in performance. You have the comprehension of a dying maggot.

@DiamondTear 7 лет назад

Hakeem Hakim That's because you're not getting a quality increase! Are you blind?

@gruffski 7 лет назад

Easy Pesy, lemon sqweesy.

@neongang95 7 лет назад

can i do it more then 2?

@gazer2937 6 лет назад

Yes but it will strain your GPU

@hooahgrom8352 7 лет назад

how about super sampling setting within the game itself ? isn"t the same?

@Bumble49 7 лет назад

No, the supersampling in Elite doesn't work properly with the Vive. Your best bet is decreasing the in-game SS to .65 and increase the SteamVR as high as you can go without judder.

@hooahgrom8352 7 лет назад

Great hint! I tried it and it looks better even for other steam VR games. thanks for sharing!

@lexsan82 7 лет назад

Is this still the case currently?

@Bumble49 7 лет назад

lexsan82 No, leave SteamVR SS at 1 and E:D SS at 1 and use the HMD Image Quality setting in E:D

@lexsan82 7 лет назад

Okay thanks!

@barfolomew4056 7 лет назад

what i dont have that

@chefbeardsly 7 лет назад

i downloaded an advanced settings option for steam vr i found it on reddit and u can just use a slider right in steam vr and it works awesome he added some other things in there too if u havent figured it out yet look it up the advanced settings that he set up works like a charm and took my vive to a new level

@jonasstrmland4655 7 лет назад

thank you. this is great to my htc vive. do you think you can but the render thing on 3.0

@Frankencookie 6 лет назад

You can use Openvr advanced settings to change supersampling from inside steamvr without having to edit files. Also has a lot of other cool settings; handy little tool to have. github.com/matzman666/OpenVR-AdvancedSettings/releases

@senfone 7 лет назад

what about my 1070? is a value of 1.5 ok?

@Joseph-mw2rl 7 лет назад

what about a gtx 1070?? 1.8?

@MrPokesmot32 7 лет назад

Same question. Just ran 2.0 and it was super laggy

@leemacdonald3487 7 лет назад

When this was first discovered, everyone was using 2.0 or 2.5. A short while later, people noticed it was dropping framerates horribly the higher you put it. If you have a 1070, 1.3 is safe for most games, I use 1.5 and haven't had many issues (Irrational Exuberence is the only one that really didn't like it). Haven't tried ED yet.

@senfone 7 лет назад

Daviader I use 1.4 What do you use?

@ahreeves 7 лет назад

ok i looked at my, steamvr.vrsettings, and don't have nearly as many lines of code. is it god hates me, my rig is new, i have no idea where to enable directmode, ??? or is there a hate of old people here? WTF?

@Bumble49 7 лет назад

The settings config file has changed since I posted this video, but you can still paste the line of text under "steamvr" and it will work.

@kepler240 7 лет назад

Andrew Reeves same here. only have one line in my steam vr file. only thing I saw with a number was the mirrow view geometry which changes the quality of the image on the computer screen but not the headset. did you figure it out and if Sox what did you do? thanka

@pimphandgamester 7 лет назад

Doesn't look like a big difference in the video considering the performance cost.

@chunkylover5367 8 лет назад

I couldn't get good performance on my PC. I'm gonna wait for when I get a 1080.

@ji3200 8 лет назад

there is no big different performance between 1080 and 1070. its waste of money buying 1080, you just overclock the 1070

@aXque 8 лет назад

Not true, the GTX 970 could be overclocked near stock GTX 980 performance. This however is not true for this gen as there are more differences than frequency holding it back. Watch some reviews and you will see that GTX 1070 overclock can't beat GTX 1080 stock. Not to mention of course that you can overclock 1080 as well.

@MrSquishedsquashed 8 лет назад

Well, I mean even if it was just frequency, the 1080 is about 3Tflops faster than the 1070. If you could add 3Tflops of performance through overclocking then Christ, how are you cooling that thing!

@joshuafischer5648 7 лет назад

striderpsv IF YOU ARE HAVING POOR PERFORMANCE TRY SETTING NVIDIAS PHYX TO CPU ONLY VIA NVIDIA CONTROL PANEL!!!

@chunkylover5367 7 лет назад

Joshua Fischer OK! Thanks for the suggestion. I will definitely give it a shot.

@Xerthez 7 лет назад

Hi I'm missing a lot of the values in my steamvr.vrsettings file. All values that are listed is as follows: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ { "keyboard" : { "TutorialCompletions" : 1 }, "steamvr" : { "mirrorViewGeometry" : "0 0 1080 600", } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I tried to edit the file with rendertargetmultiplier: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ { "keyboard" : { "TutorialCompletions" : 1 }, "steamvr" : { "mirrorViewGeometry" : "0 0 1080 600", "renderTargetMultiplier": 2.0 } } ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- but with no effect. Any one else that got the same problem and know how to solve it?

@harmdrenth8383 7 лет назад

Tim Jonsson create a new line, should look like this. "steamvr" : ( "renderTargetMultiplier : number, ),

@Not_Sure-2020 6 лет назад

So this is a steamvr setting? What if you're looking at something that's not coming from steam? Just watching a movie

@Bumble49 6 лет назад

Yes it only applies to things inside VR, so if you're watching the movie in VR it will apply, but not if you're just watching on your desktop. Also it is handled via a slider in the SteamVR settings now, under "Developer"

@connorwren8978 6 лет назад

I.4 gtx 1060 6gb OC

@3Dogg 6 лет назад

_dinkz 1060 3 gb? What do i put cause idk

@AARONARROW97 8 лет назад

I supersampled elite at 1440p on my 1080 oc and it raped my

@Bumble49 8 лет назад

Try turning the in-game SS to 0.65x, then crank up the SteamVR SS a bit more. Elite's in-game SS does weird things with the Vive and turning it as low as possible lets you get the best graphics/performance out of SteamVR SS

@AARONARROW97 8 лет назад

Thanks

@ctxgodsarmy 8 лет назад

Oculus??

@Bumble49 8 лет назад

Oculus has a similar option, I haven't used it personally but here's an article about it: www.roadtovr.com/improve-oculus-rift-game-image-quality-using-this-tool-oculus-debug-tool/