Like the subtle use of the epic sound track with all the 🪓 🪓 🪓 in the tree log. 😉👍
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I'll give a thumbs up in a couple of years, after someone else figures out if it actually holds up. I predict bolts will shear and little pin will break and or cause handle to break.
Interesting I personally like the idea of replacing a handle. Doesn't seem too hard to make a handle, more a worry about losing the key. Just seen them for sale £70 seem a little high for me.
When is Cold Steel going to make a solid, traditional camp hatchet? The only options available to me are either online junk, moderate quality hardware store hatchets, or ludicrously overpriced European brand names. The Trail Boss is an excellent general purpose axe. I'd love to see a hatchet version.
How is this less complicated or better than an axe head with a hole and a wedge? The Tri-AD lock was a definite improvement over a traditional back lock, this is attempting to fix a problem that doesn't exist with a solution that seems much weaker.
so in essence, we'd have to buy you proprietary axe handles for the hudson bay camp axe if we ever broke the handles sense no one makes a axe handle that isn't per split or head shaped to your axes. also will you guys be making any polypropylene axe handles that are compatible for those who want a handle that will not rot similar to your trench hawks?
Take your futuristic design and shove it, Cold Steel. It's not enough that you had to drill holes in tomahawks, or use nuts on sword hilts instead of peening them is it? Now this terrible monstrosity. I love the Trail Boss, but refuse to buy anything else from you until you seek and get help for this. Remember, the first step is admitting that you have a problem.
I've reviewed the Trail Boss and the Pipe Hawk. Made short work of an old cedar that I needed to cut down. Thrown them for fun for years. These are not dainty wall hangers.
I need an axe to work with it and not to throw it. Also I don't want to disassemble and assemble it like the rifle in the army. And if I have to change the handle I have enough time. Who says that I have only 20 seconds? Stupid video.
As opposed to conventional axe heads which are manufactured with a massive groove that take far more material out of the head including the area this pin is set in.
I mean I think it's cool but all you did is eliminate my ability to make an axe handle in the field and it's quicker to change it the old way for a throwing Tomahawk than it is to do all that.... so you found a problem to fix that wasn't really a problem
@@richardhenry1969 I hear you all they did was take a thousand-year-old technology and make it so we have to buy proprietary product that they make in order to use it so they create more profit... the ax has been around for thousands and thousands of years there's a reason they still are what they are if it's not broke don't fix it
Why? Make a rough fit handle and clamp down on it. Vaughn has this to some degree in their 2 piece rawhide hammers. Forget the nonsense of driving wedges.
I think though lot of actual competition dont even allow tomahawk style axes since the head is only held in place by friction, and its not secure enough. So to me at least the professional thrower makes ton of sense. Im not as sure about the camp axe im just not sure how to feel about that split style eye for tool use.
Might be good for the bar but I wouldn’t take it out of the yard for camping/bush crafting. Need a special tool. Have to buy a proprietary handle. Neat but not for me.
If you look closely friction is what really holds it in place the screws tighten down on the handle and the notches and pin are safety precautions in case the loosen up during use so you don't go flying off the handle. Lol
Seems like an improvement in both simplicity and strength. Friction fit isn't automatically better just because it's old. To do a friction fit well isn't that simple anyway and are always a failure point (axes don't have that many ways to fail).
Yeah I feel if its ease of rehanging you want surely that's the best tried and true that's been in use for thousands of years like maybe those old timey people were onto something.
I kinda like the idea of being able to swap handles easier but it seems like their trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist for most people. That said if they could offer the handles for cheap it might be worth it.
My family has been using the same axe for over 100 years. The handle has been replaced 5 times and the head has been replaced 2 times. Sturdy. They just don't build em like they used to.
So now I have to keep a allen wrench around to...... More parts to keep track of......if it's not broke don't fix it I love cold steel but in my opinion they dropped the ball this year and I'm almost a CS fan boy 90% of my stuff is coldsteel
Sure, you can change the handle quickly - provided that you have a properly shaped and drilled handle on hand. I can see the value in the throwing axe, but if you're out camping and your axe breaks this would be much harder to replace in the field.
Easier to fabricate this style of replacement with a hand drill, and other modest tools a non-woodworker would own , than for a novice to split a homemade handle and fit a homemade wedge.
Hmm, let's just make sure that all components of these axes are proprietary. They really needed someone different to handle this type of video. This guy is like listening to the monotone college professor.
Stick to tradition. A wedge through an axe with a friction fit has worked for over 700 years. Always eliminate room for failure that locking mechanism is room for failure.
really? that puts a lot of stress on two small bolts, compared to the traditional design where a large monolithic piece of steel is used. how is that a good design, mechanically? and machining wise it's a more complex part, how is that a good design with a non-captive pin that is quite important to the function? I'm not trying to be mean, but this seems like a terrible design, and from the reviews, there are a lot of failures.
So much for banging the handle on the concrete knocking the head down on the handle replacing the wedge or knocking the wedge in a little and then soaking it overnight getting another 5 years out of the old handle. Some things are better fixed without tools...
So are these both just throwing axes? I cannot see what a quick change head is for other than breaking handles, which shouldn’t happen in the first place. Although this is a really cool concept, I just don’t see a real benefit.
Conceptually looks good... however (& a big HOWEVER) I'll relate after 6 months of asking Cold Steel repeatedly for a Demko Thumb Plate for my AK-47 Folder. Replacement parts, warranty, and customer service false promises like 'we are on it" is total fantasy. Love many of my Cold Steel products that I use professionally and personally, but the support staffing and customer service dept. has been a complete and utter let down. All the simple little pieces do matter and hardware replacement is inevitable... that said,;Cold Steel is in my experience not geared to having parts and hardware available, so customer service can do no better than BS and put off a customer again and again. Sad truth that I would hope Ownership can fix.
They have most of their stuff made in China. I hope after this "little gift" China sent us, Mr Thompson will take his business elsewhere. I too have many Cold Steel products, but not buying any more in the future if they are made in China. I would rather pay twice the price to have them made here in the USA.
My comment was not aimed at political or regional agenda. Fact is... all over the world there is credibility, capability and capacity to build good stuff. I think for example all of my more recent (last 10 years) Cold Steel Folders show "made in Taiwan" and that is likely assembly whereas materials likely come from all over. I have some fixed stuff from China Like the Bushman and GI Tanto that are high-value/low-cost winners. Some I believe is out of South Africa. Anyway... the real reason I posted (to say it again) comment was my experience as a matter of fact has been terrible customer service and exhibiting that they gear not for simple necessary replacement parts. The customer service and warranty departments thru multiple means of contact have been all a bunch of balderdash, false promises, with no remedy. So here we have a company (that like many) outsources to produce some good stuff; yet drops the ball 'locally' 'stateside' with poor performance concerning reliable, honesty-based customer support of their products.
That's a real bummer about the customer service as I love my coldsteel nkives and would really be disappointed if I needed help and didn't get it come on coldsteel help this man do the right thing
Do they sell specific replacement handles for these? I was only able to find standard ax handles. This handle has the hole for the pin and for the allen screws.
For those complaning about "proprietary handles", doing some sanding is not that hard 🤣 From the looks of it, this is a real improvement, we just need some serious abuse tests to see if this system works as good as the typical wedge. Hope we see that test video soon, im interested.
If it did, then it's one of the biggest mistakes the company has made in it's history. Perhaps the history of all companies...aside from the death of Mr. Peanut
What kind of a dumb disproportionate response is this? I'm not sold on this mechanism either but it's no reason not to buy any of their other axes or tomahawks.
If you throw your tool, the handle will break, then it is easier to replace it this way, than make one from the nearest pile of wood. You should buy a couple of replacement handles directly if you are considering a new life as an axethrower. My questions is, are the dimensions on the handles the same, so that you could put the short handle to the Hudson Bay head and vice versa? If not, why not?
I bought this camp axe last week. everybody worried about this 'bolt system' but i think this system kinda work. this axe use 1055 Carbon steel, head of the axe splitted half and thinnest part of each plate is around 3.7mm and opposite end tighten by bolt. important part is, bolt isn't main part that absorb shock. shock goes through {Steel Part(edge of the blade -> back side of blade)}->{Wooden Part (front side of handle -> where your hands on)} bolts only make friction fit of it perpendicularly. of course one lump of metal is much stronger then two bolt-supported metal. but that doesn't make any significant difference to this thick metal if you aren't super soldier. maybe these bolts can loosen by long-term use but It's strong enough as traditional one. also, applying new handle will be much easier.
And just why would anyone need this on a wood processing tool ? I get it for a thrower, but a wood processing tool I do not. The abrupt transition from the bit to cheeks and eye is not good for splitting efficiency, and splitting firewood is the main use for a camp axe. Not to mention needing a proprietary handle needed, that's not a good thing for pricing and availability at all. Again okay for a throwing axe but not a wood processing tool.
On a thrower, where the handle is more likely to get damaged, this may not be a bad idea for easy handle replacement. On a regular use axe, I'm not sure I see enough benefit to make it worth it. I would also question long term durability since it's not relying on a taper, friction fit.
I have to say that I love CS, but was unsure of this design until I saw how it completely breaks apart and saw the internal pin and how it worked. Now I am sold! That is one solid design!
I think this is an awesome design. Although I say that before having bought one which I plan on doing very soon. I do however own the trail boss and axe gang hatchet and pretty pleased with the build so far
