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@trippyeyes1477
@trippyeyes1477 10 месяцев назад
I'm sure Anthony's lawyers have told him not to talk about this case. But they never said he couldn't 𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 about it
@jeremytewari3346
@jeremytewari3346 10 месяцев назад
Oh my god he’s found the loophole
@TheMysticalFox
@TheMysticalFox 10 месяцев назад
Then that song is entered into the fair game library and the process begins all over again.
@ratboygirl
@ratboygirl 10 месяцев назад
pls no 😭
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown 10 месяцев назад
*ALL ABOARD!!!!!*
@ObedSamudio
@ObedSamudio 10 месяцев назад
"Anyway, here's wonderwall"
@srubbercleanz
@srubbercleanz 10 месяцев назад
So happy to hear that small creators like Activision are able to finally stand up against big corporations like fantano
@lightdarksoul2097
@lightdarksoul2097 10 месяцев назад
Hey if someone is in the wrong they're in the wrong
@eddieray
@eddieray 10 месяцев назад
Small or big doesn't matter, they are in the right this time. h💁
@umadbra
@umadbra 10 месяцев назад
Happy to see you are mouth breathing and can't tell right from wrong. Cheers
@chefboyardeeznuttz
@chefboyardeeznuttz 10 месяцев назад
crying about fairness but asking for an unfair resolution, ironic
@elongatedsedation324
@elongatedsedation324 10 месяцев назад
This is only a "confusing case" because people are so biased against Activision like this. Look, I fucking hate Activision, but people are trying their damn hardest to somehow make Activision wrong in a situation where Fantano is clearly being the piece of shit, even if that harms other small creators in the process.
@4_xk
@4_xk 10 месяцев назад
I like how Fantano decided that picking a fight with a multi-billion dollar game development studio with a bottomless pit of money to throw at a lawsuit was a GREAT idea.
@blazaybla22
@blazaybla22 10 месяцев назад
It’s also a bottomless pit of money to throw at a settlement… the side people always forget. I haven’t finished the video so I’m not going to side against Fantano like everyone apparently has, just saying, I’m sure Fantano’s network have a decently large law firm on retainer that decided to take this on, on its merits. It’s not like Fantano just saw the ad and got mad and decided to sue, someone on his end brought it to his attention with the purpose of asking him to sue, that’s how these things go 99% of the time
@jihn1281
@jihn1281 10 месяцев назад
​@@blazaybla22after watching the video what is your opinion now
@alexwinter3752
@alexwinter3752 10 месяцев назад
@blazaybla22 Should’ve watched the video friend
@deerseaheraklorne6140
@deerseaheraklorne6140 10 месяцев назад
That ideas gonna get a NOT GOOD review
@aarkproductions
@aarkproductions 10 месяцев назад
I feel like youtubers don't really know how the world works
@talancorwell
@talancorwell 10 месяцев назад
Super smart of Activision's lawyers to spin the case in a way that actually gets public opinion on THEIR side
@glocki6655
@glocki6655 10 месяцев назад
Either way it’s spun, Fantano is still in the wrong
@sofaking3113
@sofaking3113 10 месяцев назад
nah, fantano is just a walking turd, he just tried to steal satan's money and satan decided to teach him a lesson
@bendover-bz4bc
@bendover-bz4bc 10 месяцев назад
goood for ACTIVISION . sometimes these influencers think that just because they have small following of people they can get away with anything. i bet he will try to defame activision and ask his 9 year old fans to post troll comments on activision social media once he loses the cases. (of course he will not deliberately tell his fans to do that because he knows his ass will be in jail but he will definitely try to isuniate hate towards acitvision and it only take small hint for his 9 year old fans to wreck havoc on social media thats how it works nowadays . you dont even have you command your dumb followers . just say that big corporation bad im good and his unga bunga fans are ready to go)
@Misanthropolis
@Misanthropolis 10 месяцев назад
@@bendover-bz4bc You have no idea who Anthony Fantano is, do you? Small following? Try... millions. He is a music critic/reviewer that's been around for years. Pretty sure he has almost no child following either. He's a piece of shit, yes, but to discredit Anthony as some typical run of the mill Tiktok influencer is just disingenuous and makes me think you are just an Activision fanboy, which, btw, none of us here are, so you are not gonna get a lot of support either way. Is Activision right in this instance? Yes, they are, but that doesn't mean we like Activision.
@the6ix72
@the6ix72 10 месяцев назад
bro what? how did they spin the case? public opinion wouldve always been on their side because the original tiktok sound has 55k videos under it how come he didnt go sue all those people?
@bootnoot8696
@bootnoot8696 10 месяцев назад
Imagine getting called greedy by an activision lawyer
@mitchjames9350
@mitchjames9350 10 месяцев назад
Imagine that lawyer being right.
@cactusjackNV
@cactusjackNV 10 месяцев назад
@@mitchjames9350 Wasn't that the whole point of boots comment?? Translation: Activision calling the Kettle black.
@City1Tiger
@City1Tiger 10 месяцев назад
the lawyer isnt lying
@osvaldorubalcava9721
@osvaldorubalcava9721 10 месяцев назад
@@City1Tigerlawyer is balling
@allelitememesaem3916
@allelitememesaem3916 10 месяцев назад
​@discerningmood2674 no Mitch is just saying the pot is calling the kettle black. Everything else you shoehorned in there on your own 😂
@DontTripChocolateDrip
@DontTripChocolateDrip 10 месяцев назад
Sounds like Anthony flew too close to the sun. He got Activision to remove their video, relatively easily, but went too far with the lawsuit.
@theravenlord
@theravenlord 10 месяцев назад
Probably wanted to take their money while he was at it
@TheTofuNoodle
@TheTofuNoodle 10 месяцев назад
⁠@@theravenlordyep, I don’t really see a bad guy in this story, Anthony wanted some cash from activision cus fuck them, and activision just said no.
@Brianna_Q
@Brianna_Q 10 месяцев назад
Despite Anthony objectively being in the wrong, I still hope he wins this. Just so Activision doesn't.
@namajeff4199
@namajeff4199 10 месяцев назад
@@Brianna_Q how is that any good for anyone? It literally affects everyone else badly don't pray on someone's downfall because you hate them when it affects others at least that's not how it works
@Brianna_Q
@Brianna_Q 10 месяцев назад
@@namajeff4199 Actually, that's precisely how it works.
@KoreanWizard
@KoreanWizard 10 месяцев назад
TikTok policy works like this: Business accounts (these are accounts registered to businesses) aren’t legally allowed to use anything outside of the CML (commercial music library) even on organic posts. If they want to use non-CML sounds, they have to show that they acquired the rights to use that sound. TikTok’s standard sound library licensing agreement only protects non-business accounts. Activision is claiming that they got the sound from the CML, I can assure you, the CML is highly curated and would never have Fantanos audio recording within it. TikTok policy is written that way for exactly that reason. They’re confusing the standard TikTok audio library (non-business use only) with the CML (free for business use).
@Junya01
@Junya01 10 месяцев назад
Finally someone who fucking gets it. The echo chamber is real man, kinda disappointing to see
@KoreanWizard
@KoreanWizard 10 месяцев назад
@@Junya01 otherwise Walmart could use a Taylor Swift song to promote Walmart products for free on TikTok, skirting the licensing agreements they’d have to go through ordinarily. It’s why TikTok makes the distinction between standard users and business accounts, RU-vid does something similar where standard users you can upload copyrighted music, but you can’t monetize it.
@HunterTracks
@HunterTracks 10 месяцев назад
Wouldn't it be literally the easiest thing on the planet for Fantano to simply prove the sound is not on the CML if that were the case? I don't think "the lawyers of this giant corporation are all basing their defense on the idea that nobody will bother checking this publicly available resource" is a particularly likely scenario here.
@Bicasso
@Bicasso 9 месяцев назад
​@@Junya01Dev Lemons echo chamber is way worse. And yes fatano is in the wrong. This information is publicly available go look it up yourself
@KoreanWizard
@KoreanWizard 9 месяцев назад
@@HunterTracks no idea, I guess we’ll wait and find out
@senacht
@senacht 10 месяцев назад
Even if Anthony could establish he didn’t put his meme into the library Activision can clearly show that they used it fairly since they had no way of knowing that was the case and furthermore they acted in good faith by immediately stop using it once he contacted them about his objection. Anthony isn’t going to get a dime.
@21warmasters
@21warmasters 10 месяцев назад
Innocent infringement still has a minimum penalty of 200$. so if it ends up a non fair use infringement case where willfull infringment cant be proven, he could still see some money
@mannytheconfusedturtle7092
@mannytheconfusedturtle7092 10 месяцев назад
@@21warmasters I'm sure Activision will laugh their guts off if they have to pay around 200 bucks.
@hellboy19991
@hellboy19991 10 месяцев назад
In that case wouldn't Anthony need to sue Tiktok as well, since they had publicised his property?
@zxylo786
@zxylo786 10 месяцев назад
​@21warmasters lol. 200 bucks? Thats nice. Lets make some math on the profits +Profit from the lawsuit = $200 -Lawyer fees = $100,000 Damn. Anthony sure showed everyone
@trey5890
@trey5890 10 месяцев назад
​@@21warmastersyour mind is incredibly diluted, please just think about what you said, 200 dollars isnt even crumbs for 90% of Americans, ESPECIALLY in today's age. Your observation was pointless and shows your ignorance when it comes to living in the real world
@SizzleCorndog
@SizzleCorndog 10 месяцев назад
Kinda sucks when you have to admit that the worst person in the room might actually be right
@bird-war
@bird-war 10 месяцев назад
Yeah lol this situation is the embodiment of that article that's like "Heartbreaking: The worst person you know just made a great point"
@awday
@awday 10 месяцев назад
fantano is easily the most annoying person in the room though
@indigo7898
@indigo7898 10 месяцев назад
DOesnt matter, if they are right they are right, even if they suck in general
@URsooomad8613
@URsooomad8613 10 месяцев назад
He isn't right, there's thousands if not tens of thousands of companies that do the exact same thing every day, him being the first one to be a giant crybaby about it doesn't lend much credit I'm afraid
@thegreatpiginthesky3904
@thegreatpiginthesky3904 10 месяцев назад
Who is the worst person? Fantano?
@msthecommentator2863
@msthecommentator2863 10 месяцев назад
Getting Activision to comply in the first place and take the og ad down was a feat in and of itself, I don't know why he felt the need to press his luck like that..
@jeltje50
@jeltje50 10 месяцев назад
They kinda HAVE to by law. That is what a seize and desist is for....
@byeFofiko1
@byeFofiko1 10 месяцев назад
@@jeltje50 that's not what a cease and desist is.
@AllThingsEntertaining
@AllThingsEntertaining 10 месяцев назад
​@jeltje50 That's not a cease and desist. That would imply Fantano knew the commercial using his bit was being created, and he probably didn't. This is a copyright claim, where the claimant can request the person who maybe in violation to take down the work. It must stay down until a counter notification is filed or is taken to court and ruled that the property is fair use. Fantano most likely doesn't have a case since it's fair use.
@chickenmonger123
@chickenmonger123 10 месяцев назад
Vanity.
@jeltje50
@jeltje50 10 месяцев назад
@@AllThingsEntertaining the article states that fantano send out a cease and desist letter.
@justinkaufman495
@justinkaufman495 7 месяцев назад
This is actually settled case law. Once you create content it becomes your IP, however once you put it into a royalty free library you surrender rights to control of said IP. The case this is based on is from a woman who posted an image to a royalty free library, however she later found a stock photo company selling her IP, she took legal action, and the court ruled in favor of the defendant stating that the creator surrenders rights to control their IP upon posting it to a royalty free library.
@MisterManTheBestMan
@MisterManTheBestMan 10 месяцев назад
Honestly, Anthony should've stopped after they had already ceased - they stepped on his toes and they practically apologized. Now Anthony decided to take things too far by trying to shake their pockets.
@lachicoblanco
@lachicoblanco 10 месяцев назад
they already made god knows how much money from their ad before being taken down. I see copyright on RU-vid being abused by companies, I don't want them to limit compensation for the people on tiktok they use, while the people get eff all.
@Aaronn-je8cx
@Aaronn-je8cx 10 месяцев назад
@@lachicoblanco He uploaded it to a public library and surrendered his rights to it. His fault. He doesn't deserve compensation. If he did receive compensation from Activision, that means he could get money from EVERY SINGLE PERSON that used his sound clip on Tik Tok. Copyright is also abused on RU-vid by individuals doing the same thing Activision is going against.
@Pedro-oi6ls
@Pedro-oi6ls 10 месяцев назад
@@Aaronn-je8cx then again we don't really know if he was the one to upload it in there.
@crathion4960
@crathion4960 10 месяцев назад
@@Aaronn-je8cxThat’s not how commercial sounds work. You can’t choose if it gets uploaded as a commercial sound or not.
@AhhhAh-qv6rc
@AhhhAh-qv6rc 10 месяцев назад
Yeah this public library bs is just annoying. The reason that Anthony can’t just sue everyone using his sound is because Activision used it for an ad. Let’s say for example that Twitch wanted to create an ad using creator clips, they would need to ask permission first. EVEN THOUGH they’re literally clips from Twitch, DOES NOT MEAN THEY CAN USE THEM FOR ADS.
@tyepyesayshye8457
@tyepyesayshye8457 10 месяцев назад
Impressive how Anthony managed to be the greedy side in a battle against Activision
@redlight3932
@redlight3932 10 месяцев назад
He's got a big ego for only reviewing like 3 genres of music not a fan of him at all but this totally shocked me he's pulling an Ethan Klein
@fahad101summan
@fahad101summan 10 месяцев назад
Why call it greedy? A huge company used his work, and he wants to be paid for it, that’s 100% reasonable, he’s not suing normal people for it, it’s billion dollars companies
@devizesolstice4617
@devizesolstice4617 10 месяцев назад
Wait these last two comments, how can you side with him? Did you not watch the video at all? You can't pick and choose. He gave up his exclusive rights for protection by putting this video up. That means any one can use it regardless. I'm pretty anti corp and I'm siding with Activision here because they're right this time. He got greedy and now must pay the price.
@anthbills307
@anthbills307 10 месяцев назад
​@@devizesolstice4617 I feel like, when it comes to a legal view, Fantano is 100% wrong and screwed, even in an ideal world, you wouldn't go about it the way he did. But morally speaking, I don't see why not? I think if I want to say "Individuals can use my music for free, corporations and ultra rich people can't because they obviously have the money lol", I think that would seem fair to most people intuitively, I feel like that should be allowed. It sort of is, that's WinRAR's entire business model. So as long as people concede that in the real world, Fantano isn't getting anywhere and was stupid to put his stuff in the CM Library if this is how he really feels, I think it's fair for people to have the view that morally Activision owes him because he says so, it is his work.
@hibarikyoya854
@hibarikyoya854 10 месяцев назад
​@@anthbills307saying I'm ok with meme or TikTok videos of me isn't the same as saying im ok with my likeness or anything I created being used in an ad these 2 things aren't comparable
@orpheus280
@orpheus280 10 месяцев назад
Activision is inadvertently doing a good thing by serving its best interest. It's like Godzilla destroying a city but the city is actually a cartel compound.
@tmo314
@tmo314 10 месяцев назад
Lmao that’s a good analogy
@mikeryan4552
@mikeryan4552 10 месяцев назад
Lol best comment
@Denkin_Donuts
@Denkin_Donuts 10 месяцев назад
🤦🏽‍♂️ this is actually a great comment.
@kickless7776
@kickless7776 10 месяцев назад
Rofl
@Imtheghosty
@Imtheghosty 10 месяцев назад
This comment had me wheezing 😭😭😭
@PartytimeYOLO
@PartytimeYOLO 10 месяцев назад
notice how when companies sue people they use "legal action", but when it gets turned around on them its "legal THREAT". and for those that want to get stuck on the exact wording, for this specific example "threat" is used in its standard connotation. meaning to try to damage the company in some way. where most companies use "threat" (in terms of legal action) as a synonym of warning or notice.
@Zeus.2459
@Zeus.2459 10 месяцев назад
Whoa, that's deep bro....
@PartytimeYOLO
@PartytimeYOLO 10 месяцев назад
@@Zeus.2459 thanks Garfield speedrunner...
@chloethepooh123
@chloethepooh123 10 месяцев назад
@@PartytimeYOLOhow’d you do that😩
@Mordecrox
@Mordecrox 10 месяцев назад
I dunno, it makes things clear. A legal threat is a threat, they MIGHT do something. A legal action is an action, they WILL do something. It's the difference between "Apologize or I might have to break you" and "Too late for apologies, I MUST break you".
@Amearie
@Amearie 10 месяцев назад
It was a threat tho. Fantano threatened activision instead of just suing them like an idiotz
@BlazinRoy1001
@BlazinRoy1001 9 месяцев назад
I honestly feel like there is a pretty big difference between small creators making videos with tik tok sounds and direct advertisements. Especially when it uses someone's face or voice.
@carsoncomplains
@carsoncomplains 10 месяцев назад
Details aside, sending a C&D to a multi-billion dollar corporation is pretty foolish. They will always find a way to make the lawsuit more costly than it’s worth
@NekoBoyOfficial
@NekoBoyOfficial 10 месяцев назад
I feel like in recent years Fantano's ego has grown.
@otto_von
@otto_von 10 месяцев назад
fantano has never been smart to begin with. he gave MBDTF a 6
@virtuerse
@virtuerse 10 месяцев назад
@@otto_vonbased
@yozel3411
@yozel3411 10 месяцев назад
That wasn't that problem they actually listened to the dude, it was when he asked for money from them for wtv reason
@kirikoza2488
@kirikoza2488 10 месяцев назад
The cease and desist alone was fair. Fantano didn't want his likeness associated with Activision. Activision complied (surprisingly) and took it down. Fantano took it too far by demanding compensation after it was taken down, though. That was just incredibly dumb. Someone else in the comments said Fantano pulled an Icarus, I completely agree.
@Laroushe935
@Laroushe935 10 месяцев назад
I know its a small pleasure, but I always love it when a guy in the Twitch chat gets Charlie to look up a news article and it leads to a full face to cam video
@-jakey-
@-jakey- 10 месяцев назад
FTC ATM
@julianoutlaw876
@julianoutlaw876 10 месяцев назад
Big facts
@PlanOfActionz
@PlanOfActionz 10 месяцев назад
Oh we love a money hungry charlie
@maximusthedude8305
@maximusthedude8305 10 месяцев назад
@@PlanOfActionz Charlie doesn't make money from these videos. Last I checked he donates his ad revenue on youtube to charities. He only makes money from twitch
@zhye5588
@zhye5588 10 месяцев назад
This happens a lot. His audience is great.
@shawnconway6009
@shawnconway6009 10 месяцев назад
It's pretty ballsy to try and hold a corporation to ransom. It's one thing to demand they stop using it, which they did. It's quite another to then demand money from them.
@Fire-Toolz
@Fire-Toolz 9 месяцев назад
i'd do it if it were me.
@joebin3106
@joebin3106 10 месяцев назад
Activision: oh you're a villain alright... just not a super one
@luccifan918
@luccifan918 10 месяцев назад
legitimately the most sane thing activision has ever *publicly* done edit: i started a war in the replies lol
@SoulSpookz
@SoulSpookz 10 месяцев назад
Besides bringing back the old cod servers
@HollowR6S
@HollowR6S 10 месяцев назад
@@SoulSpookzMicrosoft did that. Not at vision
@SoulSpookz
@SoulSpookz 10 месяцев назад
@@HollowR6S Ah alright then thanks for clearing that up
@bigmooseplays
@bigmooseplays 10 месяцев назад
@@thecoolguy3498 he said the opposite to that
@thecoolguy3498
@thecoolguy3498 10 месяцев назад
@@bigmooseplays you’re totally right, I misread. Then I totally agree lmao
@methleppard9555
@methleppard9555 10 месяцев назад
leave it to Anthony Fantano to make Activision seem like a reasonable company.
@itsjohnnyr8560
@itsjohnnyr8560 10 месяцев назад
Someone didn’t like an album review
@syinari8266
@syinari8266 10 месяцев назад
@@itsjohnnyr8560 maybe but you can't deny that fantano's case is ridiculous
@methleppard9555
@methleppard9555 10 месяцев назад
@@itsjohnnyr8560 I don't think I have seen an album review of Fantano in years. I'm fine with most reviews I remember. I do not like his character though.
@itsjohnnyr8560
@itsjohnnyr8560 10 месяцев назад
@@syinari8266 Oh it absolutely is ridiculous
@pinkuboto5239
@pinkuboto5239 10 месяцев назад
@@itsjohnnyr8560 fantano is an L
@tastypotato9272
@tastypotato9272 10 месяцев назад
Activision, Anthony Fantano, and Tiktok are three things i never expected to get talked about continuously in the same breath
@PP-Toi
@PP-Toi 10 месяцев назад
Should have read further Cman "Business Accounts are not blocked from using original sounds that other users upload, but please note that >>TikTok has not cleared these sounds to use for commercial purposes
@Junya01
@Junya01 10 месяцев назад
Thank you. So many people are just eating Charlie's words like slop without doing their own research or applying any critical thinking skills
@TrueCicero
@TrueCicero 10 месяцев назад
Dude doesn’t have much of a case, but I do find it hilarious a company like Activision preaching about fair use when they’ve fraudulently copyright claimed hundreds of videos for reviewing their games negatively.
@Pesky_Anon
@Pesky_Anon 10 месяцев назад
I find it more hilarious that some content creators/influencers like to pretend that they are against fair use misuse, but when the first opportunity arrives, they instantly do the same thing...
@lemonywater2979
@lemonywater2979 10 месяцев назад
​@@Pesky_Anonno the op's comment is funnier
@Uifon
@Uifon 10 месяцев назад
​@@Pesky_Anon I'm astonished that you're trying to equate a small influencer abusing fair use policies to a multi-billion dollar company doing so.
@deceased988
@deceased988 10 месяцев назад
@@Uifonthey’re not equating it they’re just acknowledging the nuance there is a difference silly
@Uifon
@Uifon 10 месяцев назад
@@deceased988 They're equating the importance of it. Otherwise, why bring it up when it's not the point of OP's comment?
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo 10 месяцев назад
Thanks Anthony, you have put us in an awkward predicament, you made us side with Activision.
@maxdoom3521
@maxdoom3521 10 месяцев назад
I’m not in an awkward position, I never liked Fantano as he seemed like a douche, which seems to be the case.
@MikeHawkPEN15
@MikeHawkPEN15 10 месяцев назад
​@@maxdoom3521agree he's a clown.
@warmateo6261
@warmateo6261 10 месяцев назад
@@maxdoom3521not suprised at the slightest
@poopy-333
@poopy-333 10 месяцев назад
Activision is in the wrong here.
@taz012090
@taz012090 10 месяцев назад
​@@poopy-333yup
@funniecheeseman
@funniecheeseman 10 месяцев назад
The only way I see Anthony winning is if, in a plot-twisted manner, Activision was the one who uploaded the copyrighted tik-tok audio to the open source license wiithout his permission so they could use it and have a defensive barrier of “oh, we didn’t know it was uploaded there by someone else.” lol that would be absolutely craaazy tho!!
@boobyflay
@boobyflay 10 месяцев назад
That would be really crazyyyy bc a bunch of ppl use that sound 😭😭 there's no way Activision knew about the sound b4 people were wide spread using it
@AhhhAh-qv6rc
@AhhhAh-qv6rc 10 месяцев назад
You can’t upload stuff to the commercial content library, look it up, it’s not possible. Anything that doesn’t get detected by TikTok’s copyright filter is allowed to be used by business accounts. But the damage was done, his likeness has value and he need to give permission for them to use it.
@HunterTracks
@HunterTracks 10 месяцев назад
​@@AhhhAh-qv6rc"All Commercial Sounds in the CML are pre-cleared for commercial use on the TikTok platform" The only way a sound bite could be pre-cleared for commercial use is if the creator had specifically entered into a licensing agreement with Tiktok that would allow Tiktok to sublicense any other user. It's pretty difficult to do that on accident.
@UltimaKeyMaster
@UltimaKeyMaster 6 месяцев назад
That kind of is the only way out here. And if that's the defense, then who did upload it?
@MB-og3dw
@MB-og3dw 10 месяцев назад
the thing i've heard that makes the most sense is that if someone else, either accidentally or intentionally, uploaded it to the commercial sound library, they should be held liable. if it was accidental, i think tiktok could be held liable too for letting something like that happen so easily.
@quipsilvervr
@quipsilvervr 10 месяцев назад
Geez. It takes a lot for people to side with Activision. He definitely pulled an Icarus with this one.
@NayrAuhsoj
@NayrAuhsoj 10 месяцев назад
Mf flying directly to the sun
@aarondavis8943
@aarondavis8943 10 месяцев назад
Anthony Fanscammo.
@Hydrolysis_Moment
@Hydrolysis_Moment 10 месяцев назад
I’m gonna have to give fantano a strong 3 to a light 4 on this one
@bzradiohead18
@bzradiohead18 10 месяцев назад
I don’t know what timeline we’re in, but Melon and Activision fighting with each other wasn’t the one I was expecting
@GloomTapes
@GloomTapes 10 месяцев назад
Charlie’s content is amazing and anyone who compares this to trash is trash themselves for watching this lol
@mikedocemrick9497
@mikedocemrick9497 10 месяцев назад
And melon being in the wrong
@bzradiohead18
@bzradiohead18 10 месяцев назад
@@mikedocemrick9497 well he do that sometimes. Aside from the Fader thing. That was just a hit piece against him.
@bzradiohead18
@bzradiohead18 10 месяцев назад
@@GloomTapes facts
@sunbleachedangel
@sunbleachedangel 10 месяцев назад
And Activision are.. kinda right? For now anyway
@CleverMonkey-jd3du
@CleverMonkey-jd3du 9 месяцев назад
Anthony Fantano, the internet's busiest copyright troll.
@MrGaky
@MrGaky 10 месяцев назад
Sounds like a classic case of fuck around and find out for Anthony
@jonnymac8925
@jonnymac8925 10 месяцев назад
Let's be realistic, he saw this as a way to try to get an out of court settlement based on silliness and now he's finding out the hard way.
@JayBigDadyCy
@JayBigDadyCy 10 месяцев назад
While this makes sense. The dude has a lot of subs. He's been around a long time and I'm willing to bet has made a damn good living being a YT'er. I don't think this is a cash grab for that reason and the fact that well, he just doesn't seem like that kind of guy (though I could be totally wrong on that second one, not like I know him personally).
@duewhat9815
@duewhat9815 10 месяцев назад
@@JayBigDadyCy Why does him being around for a while and you not knowing who he is make you think it's not a cash grab? The fact that he has multiple out of court settlements for similar things against large companies definitely raises my eyebrow while your reasonings simply makes me roll my eyes.
@ProperlyGaming
@ProperlyGaming 10 месяцев назад
​@@JayBigDadyCyyeah this is absolutely a message he is trying to send. Like whatever lil money activision may have neen willing to throw his way is irrelevant to him.
@SussyRobloxLord
@SussyRobloxLord 10 месяцев назад
Charlie? More like dummy am better
@jadedemperor2820
@jadedemperor2820 10 месяцев назад
Bros the activison glazer lmao imagine glazing and supporting a corporation thats super terrible
@bencaxton6681
@bencaxton6681 10 месяцев назад
It sure is weird seeing Activision NOT being the scum side of a lawsuit. What strange times.
@PavelTayTay
@PavelTayTay 10 месяцев назад
They’re in the wrong. Don’t know how you could possibly think otherwise.
@Kisame.Hoshigaki
@Kisame.Hoshigaki 10 месяцев назад
@@PavelTayTay please explain why
@really9473
@really9473 10 месяцев назад
@@PavelTayTay how are they in the wrong... i feel like this is bait but whatever explain your point of view
@noonyabeezniss4911
@noonyabeezniss4911 10 месяцев назад
@Kisame.Hoshigaki "Activision bad" that's why He's a braindead donut and biased
@PerspectivEs
@PerspectivEs 10 месяцев назад
lmao@@dirt-kw7cy
@davidmaximus6709
@davidmaximus6709 9 месяцев назад
Charlie, did you just straight up forget that RU-vid literally has bad actors copyrighting people who post their own original music? 😭
@fergusofdalibor4264
@fergusofdalibor4264 9 месяцев назад
I really appreciate how you first show all the facts as they are, AND THEN show the stream where you guys all figured it out. Very informative
@Evanz111
@Evanz111 10 месяцев назад
It bugs me that people are genuinely not in the know on how copyright law works. It’s there for a reason. People aren’t better than the law just because they’re famous.
@WompaStompaCyn
@WompaStompaCyn 10 месяцев назад
Reality says otherwise.
@aliceviens7
@aliceviens7 10 месяцев назад
@@WompaStompaCynnothing to do with fame and entirely with money, don’t let yourself think its famous people that get away with everything its rich people, its just a lot of famous people are rich.
10 месяцев назад
As someone who has brown eyes, i hate having brown eyes. They aren't even good looking. My parents said if i get 2k followers they'll get me an eye color surgery 🥺🙏
@lettersnstuff
@lettersnstuff 10 месяцев назад
yeah, well it’s hard to keep track of the details of things you don’t respect or care about like copyright lmao
@anxietyonline1947
@anxietyonline1947 10 месяцев назад
Uhhh people with money are absolutely better than the law. Are you not aware of how the American justice system works?
@captainthrall
@captainthrall 10 месяцев назад
"Pay me $100k or I'll sue you." The judge is not going to like that threat.
@pinkanimositygaming
@pinkanimositygaming 10 месяцев назад
Especially because that’s almost a textbook example of extortion.
@meciocio
@meciocio 10 месяцев назад
Well what do you think people do when they don't receive what they think they deserve? Not sue? lol. Not getting money is the reason for 95% of people suing other people/companies.
@volundrfrey896
@volundrfrey896 10 месяцев назад
@@pinkanimositygaming No it's standard discussions before a lawsuit. Most lawsuits are resolved like this before taking it to a judge and essentially all before taking it to trial. $100k is cheap compared to going to trial.
@pinkanimositygaming
@pinkanimositygaming 10 месяцев назад
@@volundrfrey896 my main point was about the wording. I pursued contract law in college. When an ultimatum is issued, the wording needs to be taken into account. If it’s worded in that blunt of terms, a judge or a jury might interpret that as a hostile money grab. They could interpret the ultimatum to be made in bad faith depending on if the wording seems hostile.
@MasterTangerines
@MasterTangerines 10 месяцев назад
Charlie learn how Tik Tok works and then make a video on this. I was fine with your stream clip about this because it was an on the moment reaction but this video is just incorrect.
@KonkeyVG
@KonkeyVG 9 месяцев назад
It's fairly concerning that now the way a lot of people consume the news is via someone learning about the topic in real time while reading a single article.
@mousefoot
@mousefoot 8 месяцев назад
Welcome to 2023! We have a veritable buffet of sources for those with limited media literacy!
@arthurbrown4338
@arthurbrown4338 10 месяцев назад
I never thought activision would make a good point for once
@DJV-97
@DJV-97 10 месяцев назад
@Susnation532 We do not care.
8 месяцев назад
I don't like having brown eyes My parents said they'll get me in a surgery to change my eye color if i hit 2k followers
@DJV-97
@DJV-97 10 месяцев назад
@ Again, we do not care.
@sirdurph3021
@sirdurph3021 10 месяцев назад
@@DJV-97 why you replying to bots bro
@JackSlasher2004
@JackSlasher2004 10 месяцев назад
@@sirdurph3021 bots are amazing
@dmz7696
@dmz7696 10 месяцев назад
Anthony shoulda just accepted that they took down the post out of respect when they didn’t have to. Instead he crossed the line and threatened legal action. He better pray that they accept a settlement.
@Lastofthefreenames
@Lastofthefreenames 10 месяцев назад
It's kind of an interesting area because wouldn't other companies be required to pay to use other peoples content? Like call him greedy but what he is doing seems pretty standard.
@ladyinwight
@ladyinwight 10 месяцев назад
​​@@Lastofthefreenamesmorally i don't think people are saying fantano is in the wrong, but the fact is that if his actions are accepted and normalized it will negatively affect a lot of other people due to the precedent. he's also just legally wrong besides that
@captainjames4649
@captainjames4649 10 месяцев назад
​@@ladyinwightmorally demanding more and more is called greed and is wrong.
@alienplatypus7712
@alienplatypus7712 10 месяцев назад
​@@ladyinwightNot necessarily. Fantano winning is only bad if he argues from his ownership of the meme. If he argues that the ad using him is misleading and wins that's pretty much objectively a good thing. What's bad for corporations is typically good for humans.
@JaWe-qx3td
@JaWe-qx3td 10 месяцев назад
​@@captainjames4649from a big company, oooo sooo morally wrong
@lookingforarlandria
@lookingforarlandria 9 месяцев назад
I was under the impression that Anthony himself didn't create the meme, but someone actually clipped it and turned it into one and it went viral. So I don't don't think he entered it into the commercial sounds library, but this will be super interesting to follow
@lookitthis6101
@lookitthis6101 10 месяцев назад
Couldn't have happened to a more self-absorbed guy
@yungmugel
@yungmugel 10 месяцев назад
If Activision wins, and if it’s true that Fantano got other companies to pay him those “similar 6 figure amounts”, would they be able to come back and countersue?
@mitchjames9350
@mitchjames9350 10 месяцев назад
Yep they can go after him.
@anthonyrosse5925
@anthonyrosse5925 10 месяцев назад
Good activision and other company dick riding. I’m sure this will be brought up at youre next company meeting.
@nnelg8139
@nnelg8139 10 месяцев назад
Probably not, settlements are supposed to *settle* the case, no matter what happens in the future. They would likely have to prove outright fraud to get the money back.
@thelegendaryloaf9285
@thelegendaryloaf9285 10 месяцев назад
idk im not a lawyer. What? You think anybody in this comment section is gonna start pulling up website links to cases or laws created from... Name a year in 1900s. Like shit, I can just say yes with no evidence to support my claim or I can say no with no evidence to support my claim. I didn't pass the bar, I didn't go to law school. Not only that but I highly doubt there are any lawyers here. Now of course this isn't me saying that there is a 100% guarantee theirs not an individual with sufficient knowledge in the law because there might be.
@yungmugel
@yungmugel 10 месяцев назад
@@thelegendaryloaf9285 damn bro
@justsomeredspy
@justsomeredspy 10 месяцев назад
Since people seem to be confused: Fantano did not file any lawsuit against Activision. He merely threatened to do so. Activision sued Fantano for declaratory relief (to get a declaration from the court saying they didn't do anything wrong.) Not sure where people are getting that idea from, but there you have it.
@luiscastilloful
@luiscastilloful 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, it's just light extortion.
@isaacdepaula2103
@isaacdepaula2103 9 месяцев назад
So basically he just said that? Man... what a storm in a water cup
@Hana1LuLu
@Hana1LuLu 9 месяцев назад
That’s a very important but also very confused detail
@flatfingertuning727
@flatfingertuning727 9 месяцев назад
​@@luiscastilloful In general, the purpose of seeking declaratory relief is to protect against extortion. Suppose there's a 10% chance part of a game would be found to be infringing, and a company is about to spend $50,000 pressing CDs, but replacing that part would cost $6000. A statistically fair license fee would be $600 paying it would avoid a one in ten chance of having to spend $6000). If a company couldn't get a definitive ruling on the infringement without pressing the CDs, but as soon as the CDs were pressed the holder demanded $4000 for the license, that would be a better deal for the company than having to take a 10% chance of losing $50,000, but a far worse deal than what the company should have to pay. A declaratory judgment would shift the scales so that if court finds that the work would be infringing, the company can switch to using the alternative (or license the work for slightly less than the cost of switching) before committing to pressing the CDs. If the potential copyright claimant were to offer to settle for $600, that scenario would be better for both the company and copyright holder than pursuing the judgment, but the declaratory judgment would prevent the claimant from holding the $50,000 CD pressing costs hostage.
@jexrekk0780
@jexrekk0780 9 месяцев назад
​@@isaacdepaula2103A storm in a water cup, never heard of that saying but wow that's a good one 😂.
@SkrtSkrPopIII
@SkrtSkrPopIII 10 месяцев назад
giving those headlines a light two is such a good reference omg
@Mashamazzi
@Mashamazzi 10 месяцев назад
"Give me money" "No, now you're getting sued for asking" Doesnt really make sense to me, but go off America..
@Blu3ManiC
@Blu3ManiC 10 месяцев назад
Even if Fantano can prove he didn’t put the clip in the commercial library Activision has plausible deniability and their initial comply of the C&D as means to dismiss any further action. Overall it’s a power move for everyone, they get to know if he uploaded it or not and they also get to use that as their plausible deniability. Fantano can’t even win anything monetary in court as he has no registration number for enough slices. He’d win an injunction preventing further use at most.
@kallmeej9106
@kallmeej9106 10 месяцев назад
Congrats on having the only reasonable take in this comment section.
@megladon6
@megladon6 10 месяцев назад
If he didn’t upload it then activision can fall back on the fact that the sound has been used millions of times and he only takes issue with it being uploaded now. They would still have to take down the clip but there is no avenue for financial gain for Fantano that I could see.
@Seven-tk7sp
@Seven-tk7sp 10 месяцев назад
​@@megladon6that doesn't sound viable in court. "Oh everyone else used it so we figured we could too"
@mrjjman2010
@mrjjman2010 10 месяцев назад
@@Seven-tk7spthat’s not the defense. The defense is that to keep certain rights you have to defend them and you can’t be choosy about whom you defend them from. I’m not a lawyer and even I have read about this numerous times lol it’s nothing unusual. People with no idea of how things work and whom have read nothing about it : “that couldn’t ever work that way!” 😂😂 The people who know the least will always talk first and loudly lol
@draymore
@draymore 10 месяцев назад
@@mrjjman2010 "The people who know the least will always talk first and loudly lol" Not quite looking in the mirror there are we bud? When it comes to advertising, a company would need explicit permission to use the likeness of an individual or organization, either visual or audio, regardless of the origin of said likeness. The defense of certain rights that you mention is only applicable in copyrights, of upholding and defending copyrights via suits or DMCA in most cases. This does not fall under copyright defense as you claim as one: Fantano most likely does not have a copyright on the "that's enough slices" clip, i believe that is partially taken by TikTok actually under their terms, two: there is a vast difference between what could fall under fair use or be argued as "defamatory" ie what Activision is counter suing here, and three: Activision used the clip in a advertisement sense, which allows for a lot more broadness in protections of individuals when it comes to their individual rights.
@PorchMankey
@PorchMankey 10 месяцев назад
I hope this actually goes to court. It’s an open and shut case, but it’s important that it is made into law.
@LuciusC
@LuciusC 10 месяцев назад
It's already law that you have to abide by the contracts you make though. What else is there to this?
@Meatbrawl
@Meatbrawl 10 месяцев назад
@@LuciusC Law supersedes contracts which break the law.... You can sign a contract with unenforceable clauses...
@shanerisk1293
@shanerisk1293 10 месяцев назад
It probably won't
@SpeedcoreDancecore
@SpeedcoreDancecore 10 месяцев назад
It has to go to a supreme court/constitutional court for that; first instance verdicts don't make jurisprudence
@psycholor7450
@psycholor7450 10 месяцев назад
Achualy, it would have to go to the senate or the house; the courts do not make law. 🤓
@RainbowYawn
@RainbowYawn 9 месяцев назад
The commercial sound library on Tiktok is different to their standard sound library. It’s a more limited selection of sounds for business and brands that can be used commercially and doesn’t include most popular songs
@christiankamrath470
@christiankamrath470 10 месяцев назад
The crossover I never expected
@thema1998
@thema1998 10 месяцев назад
I don't respect Activision as a company but they've got a point on this one. Anthony got way too greedy. He was lucky to even get the Crash Bandicoot video using his meme clip taken down in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped the lawsuit before it could go to trial. If not, he'd likely lose and his reputation would be shot!
@ccslider5755
@ccslider5755 10 месяцев назад
His reputation wouldn’t really be affected because his fans don’t really care
@frankwest5388
@frankwest5388 10 месяцев назад
Reminds me of an onion article that is called “the worst person you know made an actually good point”
@thegreatpiginthesky3904
@thegreatpiginthesky3904 10 месяцев назад
Anyone who knows anything about fantano knows he has a reputation of being an idiot
@foxyhxcmacfly2215
@foxyhxcmacfly2215 10 месяцев назад
@@ccslider5755 can confirm, zero fucks given
@retronimo
@retronimo 10 месяцев назад
It doesn't matter if he drops it, Activision countersued and it's pretty clear they want a ruling, meaning no settlements
@yuGtahT
@yuGtahT 10 месяцев назад
A company I hate VS a youtuber I can't stand 😂
@s.frombrum4379
@s.frombrum4379 10 месяцев назад
His opinion on music is 🗑️ too
@CoZzyvvr
@CoZzyvvr 10 месяцев назад
Lol, same
@joshypdewicey1763
@joshypdewicey1763 10 месяцев назад
BIG feel, Fam
@mmmwhatchasayyyyy2021
@mmmwhatchasayyyyy2021 10 месяцев назад
Just curious, what do you guys not like about fantano? I don't really watch his content myself so I don't care either way, just wondering
@Hehehehehe
@Hehehehehe 10 месяцев назад
@@mmmwhatchasayyyyy2021They’re mad he gave their favorite album a light 3
@lewisbeattie2533
@lewisbeattie2533 10 месяцев назад
The reason I don't agree with it benefitting regylar tik tok user is, tik tok users aren't using it to advertise a product. Activision were explicitly using Fantano for an ad. Totally different circumstance. The Tik-Tok Library actually stipulates "non-commercial use", the sounds are commercial sounds for trivial use, not commercial sounds for commercial use. Otherwise the Eminem Black Ops Trailer wouldn't need to pay eminem if they only released it on Tik Tok. That's ridiculous. Activision are attempting to sue Fantano over Bytedance policy.
@Junya01
@Junya01 10 месяцев назад
Yeah there is a separate non commercial sound library and a curated commercial sound library that registered businesses on TikTok can take from to make commercial ads. Fantano was not in any way in the commercial sound library, so he's 100% in the right legally. Not surprising Charlie missed this considering he doesn't use TikTok
@stupidmango4036
@stupidmango4036 9 месяцев назад
Found the drooling tiktokers
@Junya01
@Junya01 9 месяцев назад
@@stupidmango4036 you don't need to have TikTok to do basic due diligence. Then again, if I made thousands pumping out rushed videos I have no merit speaking on, I would do that too. Only the minority would realize I'm speaking out of my ass and the rest would eat it like slop. It only makes sense
@stoogel
@stoogel 9 месяцев назад
I wonder what Chuck would do if "WOOOOO YEEEEAH BABY!" showed up on an ad for Walmart with no attempt to clear it with him.
@rippedrichardwaterson
@rippedrichardwaterson 10 месяцев назад
This is the greatest lawsuit of all time
@SINYSTOK
@SINYSTOK 10 месяцев назад
@Susnation532 shut up clout clown
10 месяцев назад
I have brown eyes but I don't want brown eyes. my parents said if i get 2k followers they'll take me to an eye color changing surgery thing 🙏
@ashdroidgamer3878
@ashdroidgamer3878 10 месяцев назад
@you have great eyes
@irecordwithaphone1856
@irecordwithaphone1856 10 месяцев назад
​@Bro you could at least say something more convincing than "eye color changing surgery thing"
@ashsvanlife
@ashsvanlife 10 месяцев назад
Yup that and Depp vs Heard
@Apac12
@Apac12 10 месяцев назад
"you won't see me pumping my fist for activison" Bro you got sponsored multiple times just earlier this year for overwatch 2
@sourbonez
@sourbonez 10 месяцев назад
This isn’t how TikTok works Charlie.
@arixachannel
@arixachannel 9 месяцев назад
He's literally making it all up just for views. Charlie is always uninformed.
@andrewbrock3675
@andrewbrock3675 7 месяцев назад
I have never once seen Anthony do anything and been entertained even slightly. Lol.
@Dragorosso95
@Dragorosso95 10 месяцев назад
Congratulations to this guy, he made us root for Activision
@sodanakin
@sodanakin 10 месяцев назад
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This , I aint defending a tik tok brain rot user.
@aldude999
@aldude999 10 месяцев назад
They don't call him melon head for nothing.
@jackwenn_9693
@jackwenn_9693 10 месяцев назад
@@sodanakinyou’re not better than everyone else don’t be such a wanker
@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten 10 месяцев назад
​@@sodanakinYou clearly don't know Fantano as tik tok is just a small thing he started doing besides his youtube channel. Definitely not a "tik tok brain rot user"
@reallyonfire
@reallyonfire 10 месяцев назад
@@chucksfeedandseedYou clearly haven't watched any of his youtube videos
@Sab3rT00thh
@Sab3rT00thh 10 месяцев назад
Honestly, if Anthony is caught up and somehow admits to knowingly put it into the "Commercial Sounds", he loses. The only way I can really see him winning this dispute is if someone else stole his audio and published it there without him knowing, which can raise the question "Why didn't they get sued?". People can argue that Activation used it for "promotional purposes", but that is immediately discarded since it's apparently in the "Commercial Sounds"
@kaingates
@kaingates 10 месяцев назад
Think for a second; if Fantano agreed - why would Activision take the video down and not contest it at that point? Why wait for a countersuit in which they've already admitted fault?
@karthis5911
@karthis5911 10 месяцев назад
@@kaingates It's common for people to take down content that uses content from other creators even if it's fair use if the other creator asks. Nothing new or damning there.
@F00LSG0LD215
@F00LSG0LD215 10 месяцев назад
@@karthis5911 What people are missing here is Fanto IS his brand and you can have Business Branded Accounts.(googled) My guess is he upload that using a Business Brand Account which doesn't seem to have the same Term of serve that's probably why he was able to get those amounts from other companies. Activision either knew of little of him or did and just didn't want to fit a collab bill and just decided to steal the meme for the ad cause they knew it'd get taken down LATER after hour or days and by then the ad time is over since they probably paid for it to be pushed up and all that on the frontend (as many eyes on it at launch) would be over by the time it would be taken down at backend (when that money to upsell the ad timeframe ends). Plus why didn't Activision Connect with Fanto he's a big enough creator NOT to try to get into connect first or at least you'd think NOPE, They just sent the ad and now making like He's the bad guy, yet if your seeing him on Twitter or YT or FB or TicToc those are ALL definitely Business Brands, nothing personal, so when he twits or threads or post on YT or TicToc THEY ARE ALL business brands accounts. So if he uploaded the meme from his Business Brand Account I doubt they same term of service apply especially when sharing. Otherwise why would Celebrities or Musician use TicToc if they themselves or anyone else puts them in the music library well now your likenss and vioce could then be claimed fair use and/or obliviousness to use for a time being. So every celebrity and musicians' voice and likeness as well are fair game when? Well I bet TicToc thought of that with branded business accounts that way those types of people or companies don't have to have their voices sampled or likeness used in commercial ways they wouldn't want or shared without their approval.
@leg0land100
@leg0land100 10 месяцев назад
@@kaingatesthink for a second if fantano didn’t agree then why is it apart of the commercial sounds library?
@flamingwolfx
@flamingwolfx 10 месяцев назад
I wonder if activison used the ad on a different platform. If they did it’s possible that he has a claim to damages for nontiktok ads since he (allegedly) only agreed to have his sound bite used on TikTok
@reyachrai5810
@reyachrai5810 10 месяцев назад
😂😂😂 "it wasnt antonio it was his evil twin"
@officaldungeons
@officaldungeons 10 месяцев назад
L take See: Dev Lemon’s video about this.
@prebenkul
@prebenkul 10 месяцев назад
the thing is, the "tiktok music critic" forgot one thing. Their a multi million dollar company, even if they where to lose the case, they could postpone the case as long as they want, and lawyers are payed by the hour, so they could technically make him lose all his money and all his savings to win this case. They are loaded, so they don't care about spending.
@spicewiener7767
@spicewiener7767 10 месяцев назад
You have no idea how the law works
@Greg12839
@Greg12839 10 месяцев назад
@@spicewiener7767 neither do you
@sebastianriz4703
@sebastianriz4703 10 месяцев назад
Uhhhh no...thats not really how this works. They can milk him dry but not by doing that.
@TumblinWeeds
@TumblinWeeds 10 месяцев назад
Nah, companies have money but it’s not just sitting around waiting to be flushed down the drain. They likely have a budget for this operation, much more than the creator does, but especially in this case where they can easily win there’s no reason for them to stall.
@robertscheu9771
@robertscheu9771 10 месяцев назад
@@sebastianriz4703 yes... done multiple times every year by big companys against people... the lawyers will always find something to prolong cases, push courtdates back and file motions about everythig... they simply bleed you out
@NuktukBDB
@NuktukBDB 10 месяцев назад
If Anthony didn’t upload the audio, then another point of contention will be the duration of time Anthony has spent not actively attempting to remove the audio from the library. If he knew about it, but only to action selectively to big companies while not taking any action to remove it from the library, it could look bad for him still.
@Jaywin228
@Jaywin228 10 месяцев назад
Of course he didn’t. Any kind of publicity is good publicity, he’s just trying to make money off a big company
@gerardopadilla2666
@gerardopadilla2666 10 месяцев назад
@@Jaywin228 While screwing everyone else if he ever does tho. This is beyond "bad publicity", but he's literally claiming he doesn't care if he needs to harm every other creator out there for some money.
@MultresMusicChannel
@MultresMusicChannel 10 месяцев назад
TikTok Sounds for Business has apparently only been launched less than six months ago. Could be that TikTok failed to obtain consent for old content and accidentally cleared it for commercial use without having an appropriate license in place. That would explain why other companies have apparently previously settled similar cases.
@jamiedown8884
@jamiedown8884 10 месяцев назад
He can't claim ignorance either since with how popular of a meme it became it would be impossible for him not to find out
@chillin5703
@chillin5703 10 месяцев назад
No he might legitimately not know in which case he, the copy right holder, would not have consented to putting his copyrighted produce into the library so it would be legally invalid. Idk if he'd get much out of Activision for that though since there's no way to show they knew that.
@thealbumreviewer2889
@thealbumreviewer2889 9 месяцев назад
activision is lying about the sound being in the commercial library. the commercial library is only music cleared by tiktok themselves
@margs9184
@margs9184 10 месяцев назад
Charlie on half and half copium in his morning coffee lol
@TheRival-_-
@TheRival-_- 10 месяцев назад
I love everyone immediately saying Activision is in the wrong and don’t know the situation lmao
10 месяцев назад
I have brown eyes but I don't want brown eyes. my parents said if i get 2k followers they'll take me to an eye color changing surgery thing 🙏
@the_letter_5579
@the_letter_5579 10 месяцев назад
We truly live in a society
@TheRival-_-
@TheRival-_- 10 месяцев назад
@sorry bud, you’re gonna have brown eyes
@larustatrust
@larustatrust 10 месяцев назад
First time?
@Biting_bullets25
@Biting_bullets25 10 месяцев назад
Facts i was thinking the same thing reading the comments 😂
@milliondollarmistake
@milliondollarmistake 10 месяцев назад
The random person I don't like for no reason has done something to justify my feelings. Thank you Anthony
@stewiegriffinfortnight2160
@stewiegriffinfortnight2160 10 месяцев назад
​@@user-jl7xj5iz9k aside from this lawsuit (which he absolutely is in the wrong with), there's not much reason to hate him outside of some misinformed people who dont actually watch his reviews and just scroll down to see the score on his most controversial ones. Even if he has a weird opinion, he usually justifies it pretty well outside of a few odd cases. he's very overhated
@jeffe3096
@jeffe3096 10 месяцев назад
@@user-jl7xj5iz9klike what
@LVTHORAscending
@LVTHORAscending 10 месяцев назад
​@@user-jl7xj5iz9k So true.
@kanomee
@kanomee 10 месяцев назад
lmao me too
@fuqueue7242
@fuqueue7242 10 месяцев назад
He's insufferable. Very punchable face.
@furukawanagisa7935
@furukawanagisa7935 10 месяцев назад
Lmao he really tried to strong arm a mega corporation
@richardwilliams5387
@richardwilliams5387 10 месяцев назад
Even if he didn't put it up it's on him to find out and inform someone it's up falsely.
@WhoEls
@WhoEls 10 месяцев назад
Activision is absolutely packed with high profile lawyers since the merger. I wonder which lawyer did advise Fantano to sue them.
@S.A.M.117
@S.A.M.117 10 месяцев назад
It was she-hulk.
@Melancholy308
@Melancholy308 10 месяцев назад
now this leaves me genuinely wondering who would be more likely to advise anthony fantano to sue activison... saul goodman or she-hulk?
@collincaperton6718
@collincaperton6718 10 месяцев назад
​@@Melancholy308saul knows he cant be activision bit she hulk would think girl power is enough to be a multibillion dollar company
@zxylo786
@zxylo786 10 месяцев назад
​@@collincaperton6718She would twerk against the patriarchy in the courtroom. That would show everyone.
@nexus882
@nexus882 10 месяцев назад
one of Activision's
@theblackkulak8199
@theblackkulak8199 10 месяцев назад
It isn’t about corporation vs an individual, It’s about protecting fair use. Support the correct decision for everyone and not a person.
@theo6741
@theo6741 10 месяцев назад
Fair use of a copyrighted work applies to teaching, comment or criticism, and has to be changed enough from the original work such that it is a distinctly different thing. They’re not right because they’re using a copyrighted work under fair use (spoiler, they’re not), its that it was in the commercial sounds library so copyright law doesn’t apply the same way.
@MultresMusicChannel
@MultresMusicChannel 10 месяцев назад
It's not about fair use though. You can't (especially commercially) exploit IP owned by another party without an appropriate right to use usually obtained via a license. That's literally why IPR exists in the first place.
@TheHuskyK9
@TheHuskyK9 10 месяцев назад
@@MultresMusicChannel If that's the case, then Anthony shouldn't have uploaded his sound bite to TikTok's CML. Doing so revokes any rights he retained to the content and allows others (including brands) to use it for commercial purposes, as stated in TikTok's ToS.
@MultresMusicChannel
@MultresMusicChannel 10 месяцев назад
@@TheHuskyK9 True, if Fantano has in fact reuploaded the sound bite to the CML or otherwise consented to the right of use of third parties. TikTok's Sounds for Business segment of CML was apparently launched last February whereas the sound bite has been originally uploaded to the platform years ago. There is a possibility that TikTok hasn't cleared old content appropriately for commercial use in SfB which would explain why other companies have apparently settled similar claims.
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 10 месяцев назад
@@theo6741 US Copyright Law doesn't apply for Public Domain Works. You don't own the art nor can you claim copyright over it. Situations like this, new artists should know. Creative Commons is like this too. And TOS in America is not legally upheld. Since US Copyright Law exceeds it and you need a proper contract for Contract Law to be legally enforced. Especially when "free labor" is simply daylight robbery in a form of TOS... Illegal but not unexpected for corporations to do.
@carterharding120
@carterharding120 10 месяцев назад
i would have to give the headlines a light 2 😂😂
@MoonlightRaven_
@MoonlightRaven_ 10 месяцев назад
I'd have to give those headlines a light 2 BARS
@kwoni3337
@kwoni3337 10 месяцев назад
I love the irony of Activision trying to call someone else greedy lmao
@xvnz
@xvnz 10 месяцев назад
takes one to know one
@sownheard
@sownheard 10 месяцев назад
in this law suite Activision is 100% in the right
@kwoni3337
@kwoni3337 10 месяцев назад
@@sownheard ok, and? I didn't say they were technically wrong. Why are you defending a multi billion dollar company that started this whole thing by stealing someone else's content and using it for a promotion to make money? Why are you trying to minimise the fact that they're one of the greediest, morally corrupt video game companies that exist? Context matters
@glocki6655
@glocki6655 10 месяцев назад
@@kwoni3337Lil bro losing his mind over a corporation that will never change nor give him any mind lmao. I don’t like Activision but this comment is so corny. Like did you even watch the video ☠️they didn’t steal nothing and was under fair use. It’s cool to hate corps but don’t start crying over nothing 🤣
@xvnz
@xvnz 10 месяцев назад
@@kwoni3337 how can you write "Context matters" and also say they were stealing shit which is the opposite of what happened?
@thehydrationman5500
@thehydrationman5500 10 месяцев назад
I rate this lawsuit a solid 7/10
@jakethomas5016
@jakethomas5016 10 месяцев назад
Too much water
@TercelRepairManual
@TercelRepairManual 10 месяцев назад
It's uh... rough
@vasvas8914
@vasvas8914 10 месяцев назад
Not good
@dreamer6001
@dreamer6001 10 месяцев назад
Nah it's around 6.69/10
@frutistajunkie
@frutistajunkie 10 месяцев назад
I....agree!
@Bruceskyy
@Bruceskyy 9 месяцев назад
"I'm no activision enthusiast" says man that plays activision games and allows them to run ads on his streams and videos
@fernandofaria2872
@fernandofaria2872 9 месяцев назад
He is an enthusiast of Activision's _money_ , silly.
@sourt_t
@sourt_t 10 месяцев назад
I think this is presented wrong. Fantano didn’t sue activision with this being a counter suit. He asked for a licensing fee essentially
@GenericGamer
@GenericGamer 10 месяцев назад
If Activision titled their video “To Slice a Melon,” none of this would’ve happened.
@truthseeker198
@truthseeker198 10 месяцев назад
That goes to show that not only big companies can be scummy. A lot of the times people do shit like this, it just doesn't get publicized. Stay on the side of what is fair and just, not just against companies just because.
@HCG
@HCG 10 месяцев назад
Nah Activision can SMD
@angel_of_rust
@angel_of_rust 10 месяцев назад
@@HCG Super Mario Dros?
@Jvm-iq2qe
@Jvm-iq2qe 10 месяцев назад
Surface Mount Device (SMD): An electronic component that mounts on the surface of a printed circuit board (as opposed to "through-hole" components which have pins that are inserted into holes). SMDs typically allow more components per square centimeter of PC board, but their scale is such that hand assembly and prototyping may be difficult. I think this is what he meant idk.
@foshorosho
@foshorosho 10 месяцев назад
are you really scummy if youre suing a billion dollar company thats done similar things?
@OutOfNameIdeas2
@OutOfNameIdeas2 10 месяцев назад
Companies are just more people doing something. Just normal people
@nerdysatisfaction
@nerdysatisfaction 10 месяцев назад
All you have to do is check the commercial sounds section to see Anthony’s audio isn’t in it
@B3N1TO
@B3N1TO 10 месяцев назад
One must imagine Sisyphus happy
@jarrickhillery8664
@jarrickhillery8664 10 месяцев назад
Just to specify, there are two different sound libraries on TikTok; commercial sounds and the standard sounds. The average TikToker won’t be affected either way by this court case. Activision’s framing is intellectually dishonest. That being said, if Fantano did add the sound itself to the commercial sounds library, it’s an open-and-shut case. But it’s also entirely possible that another TikToker copied his sound (which happens all the time) and opted into the commercial sounds library.
@arnk7060
@arnk7060 10 месяцев назад
yeah, but I think Anthony Fantano put his own video in the library sound. plus, I think Activision lawyers can try to argue no matter if it's in the commercial library for fair use as a parody or something.
@patiencecarey3770
@patiencecarey3770 10 месяцев назад
still doesn’t change anything
@oliverbs0417
@oliverbs0417 10 месяцев назад
Well it does change it because if fantano wins that means any person that used sounds on the PUBLIC commercial sounds can be taken to court and sued by the original creator witch is bad for everyone.
@F00LSG0LD215
@F00LSG0LD215 10 месяцев назад
Been trying to tell that to people If the avg normie is seeing it it's a Fanto Business Account you're seeing his private stuff is way smaller for family and friends. With all his dealings in music I'd call him idiot too if it wasn't posted in someway by him through the Business Brand TicToc then onto the commercial sounds library by that Business Brand TicToc. Sounds like Activsion was just being a scum company and pushed out an ad with hot meme for the insights and didn't either know enough about Fanto or care enough they got the ad out and probably pushed it with extra analytics for most eyes instead messaging him about a collab or they did he quoted them that big price and they said screw it what's he going to do force the takedown that's only ONCE he see's it oh well then we'll get our money worth while it's up before it gets taken down the MANY hours or DAYS later. My guess Fanto lets normie post and use it but when he see's a company especially ones that don't reach out to him, he gets pissed has every right if he posted as a business brand TicToc and was entered by him into the Commercial Library too by his business brand TicToc. For companys to steal and use for there own ads.
@F00LSG0LD215
@F00LSG0LD215 10 месяцев назад
@@oliverbs0417 your getting it confused there are literally two library... Would you agree if Charlie made a business brand account TicToc made a TicToc he then added that mp3 to the COMMERCIAL SOUNDS LIBRARY which is DIFFERENT from the just Public SOUNDS Library which is more for like for normies share....You don't see celebrity or there voices being sampled or used for ADs or Products because being a meme doesn't entail the company to use the celebrities or musician voice or likeness to be used for ADs for companies they don't endorse and cats out of the bag even on Fanto even if taken down. Just like any other say Celebrity Meme companies aren't using those willy-nilly why should should Fantos be any different. Would you tell Charlie his singular only TicToc ever (say it's him talking about something he likes) so now his voice can be sampled on TicToc by anyone for anyone to use? That's fair use in your mind his likeness should be able to be used for commercial venture for ADs with no say because oh it's a meme now?? NO And no Activision KNEW what they were doing BEFORE they sent the meme it was just cheaper the way they did it....
@gloonked
@gloonked 10 месяцев назад
I'm at the exact point as everyone else where I live Fantano and despise corporations that act like Activision does, but it's ridiculous to tell someone to pay someone after doing something they didn't know was wrong. Reminds me of a popular scam in India where someone will drop paint on your shoe a few steps from a shoe cleaner they're in cahoots with.
@sathanas420
@sathanas420 10 месяцев назад
Fantano is ass
@ihateeveryone8161
@ihateeveryone8161 10 месяцев назад
I don't get why people love Fantano he's kinda just a massive douche bag. I hope he wins but that doesn't make him any less of a tosser.
@faithlessmartyr2387
@faithlessmartyr2387 10 месяцев назад
What the hell these mfs low key geniuses
@jimbeam8338
@jimbeam8338 10 месяцев назад
Imagine liking Anthony Fantano
@fotis3v480
@fotis3v480 10 месяцев назад
What happens if you drop paint in their throat afterwards does the shoe cleaner help with that aswell?
@micheal1289
@micheal1289 10 месяцев назад
If he didn’t rate Mbdtf a 6 this wouldn’t have happened
@masonflanrey9095
@masonflanrey9095 9 месяцев назад
Activision could have just been like hey man can we’re huge fans, you cool if we sample that funny sound in an ad? Wish the world was that simple
@waderodgers3397
@waderodgers3397 10 месяцев назад
I think a lot of newer creators are confused about copyright as it is and the intricacies of it. So to have, what should be, a safe place and suddenly that is not to be safe anymore, just adds to the confusion and also adds to the ways scammers can try to make money off unsuspecting people. Sometimes the bad guy is in the right.
@darkjackl999
@darkjackl999 10 месяцев назад
>newer creators It's always been the case
@DN0103
@DN0103 10 месяцев назад
Can't believe that *Activision* is the good side in this lawsuit. Anthony got greedy and now he's paying the price...literally.
@itsnotjayboi
@itsnotjayboi 10 месяцев назад
I cant beliebe fantano tried going toe to toe with craptivision 😊
@liltowel4life2
@liltowel4life2 10 месяцев назад
​@@itsnotjayboipedovision*
@lukeGGlee
@lukeGGlee 10 месяцев назад
hes just playing their game
@anthonyrosse5925
@anthonyrosse5925 10 месяцев назад
Yea he’s not a bad guy for doing what companies do ever my day. It’s just activision paying sheep’s to be mad because they don’t want to lose va Anthony. Even though he’s in the right
@rockmycd1319
@rockmycd1319 10 месяцев назад
@@anthonyrosse5925He’s not right lol
@WartyFlute
@WartyFlute 10 месяцев назад
From the company that brought you the cosby room 😂
@joshammari7959
@joshammari7959 9 месяцев назад
Id have to give those headlines a light two😂😂😂
@staticbuilds7613
@staticbuilds7613 10 месяцев назад
It is annoying to have a company who you may or may not agree with use your videos or clips. However if he submitted it and allowed it to be used by anyone then he really has no say in it. If you put something in what is essentially the public domain then anyone should be able to use it despite you not agreeing with them.
@chatboss000
@chatboss000 10 месяцев назад
POSTING 👏ONLINE👏IS👏NOT👏PUBLIC👏DOMAIN. Even lots of declared "free" content online is still licensed. Like royalty free music, or Creative Commons media, or GPL/MIT/freeware/shareware licensed software that might say stuff like "hey you can distribute this software but you can't charge money for it"
@staticbuilds7613
@staticbuilds7613 10 месяцев назад
@@chatboss000 But this one did say they could. So it would be like Public Domain. You did read my comment right?
@jhallo1851
@jhallo1851 10 месяцев назад
​@@chatboss000bruh he didn't say its public domain. He said its ESSENTIALLY that. Meaning not that, but with similar attributes. You need to work on your reading comprehension
@MAN1CXD
@MAN1CXD 10 месяцев назад
​@@chatboss000he put the sound in the Commercial Sounds Library
@mehg8407
@mehg8407 10 месяцев назад
If Fantano loses, then if you ever put your face or voice on that library it basically means they can use your voice for anything they want. Is that really reasonable?
@mrlevinielsen
@mrlevinielsen 10 месяцев назад
Moral of today’s story: Putting too many slices on a pizza never leads to anything good
@ninecity2455
@ninecity2455 10 месяцев назад
Dev Lemon brought me here and this is dumb takes
@schnabby208
@schnabby208 10 месяцев назад
the amount of people actually supporting activision because they think fantano has bad takes on music 💀 like y’all know his views on Kanye’s album doesn’t count as court evidence right
@ninecity2455
@ninecity2455 10 месяцев назад
@@schnabby208 Yeah, not everyone has the same taste in music and that doesn't even relate to anything about this whole situation
@mrpopo9444
@mrpopo9444 10 месяцев назад
Bro tried getting a quick bag without thinking it thruu
@Whitewingdevil
@Whitewingdevil 10 месяцев назад
Should ActiBlizard be praised for not being Evil in this case? Yes, absolutely. It's called positive reinforcement, we want to encourage the behaviour we like, and discourage the behaviour we don't.
@seapeajones
@seapeajones 10 месяцев назад
So now we praise for doing the bare minimum?
@Whitewingdevil
@Whitewingdevil 10 месяцев назад
@@seapeajones Compared to what ActiBlizzard has been doing for the last decade? Yes.
@kjh1678
@kjh1678 10 месяцев назад
They're not gonna change tho
@madelinewoof7544
@madelinewoof7544 10 месяцев назад
They're a company, not a person, positive reinforcement doesn't apply to a faceless conglomerate that's just trying to make money, especially since this lawsuit was done in their own self-interest, and not for the good of other creators and users, it just so happens that preventing abuse of copyright claims here benefits other people in addition to themselves, but let's not pretend like they're doing this for the good of others.
@Whitewingdevil
@Whitewingdevil 10 месяцев назад
@@kingkami1739 To my knowledge Fantano didn't actully sue ActiBlizzard, he sent legal threats, and ActiBlizzard sued him in response, this isn't a counter-suit it's a pre-emptive suit.
@sullysosavage365
@sullysosavage365 10 месяцев назад
Can't stand Anthony Fantano or Activision, so I'm just gonna grab the popcorn and see what the hell happens
@WolfshotPlayz
@WolfshotPlayz 10 месяцев назад
For real!
10 месяцев назад
As someone who has brown eyes, i hate having brown eyes. They aren't even good looking. My parents said if i get 2k followers they'll get me an eye color surgery 🥺🙏
@EverythingIsTaken94
@EverythingIsTaken94 10 месяцев назад
He ranked Venomous Villain as a better MF DOOM album than Operation: Doomsday, the man has to be stopped
@stephtastic4515
@stephtastic4515 10 месяцев назад
​@@Susnation532cringe
@BatMan-jd5rc
@BatMan-jd5rc 10 месяцев назад
@@stephtastic4515 It's a bot
@WhatAreDrums729
@WhatAreDrums729 10 месяцев назад
Is it a video thing? I could see something being brought up if the commercial "sounds" library has dubious claims to the video component.
@demilung
@demilung 6 месяцев назад
I guess this case will be hinging over the terms of Creative Sounds Library and how it works, as well as how it complies with the U.S. law.
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