I would like to see the class tree completely reworked and designed. Rework all capsstones. One should be Ancestral Guidance, Spirit link totem, Stormkeeper. There needs to be complete look at shaman class tree its still just as bad as druid.
Good changes to far. My wishes: - Update of acendance model - I'd like to see nature's swiftness be a bit more powerful - e.g., 100%+ healing in addition to no cast time. It's too weak for being at end of talent tree. We need a 'oh shit' button and while spirit link is great for that - it's also a bit clunky with regards to reaction time needed. Also needs to be renamed so it doesnt have the same as the similar druid spell. - Remove primodial wave from the game - Make down-pour and healing rain the same button - Remove charges on shields to reduce button bloat - Reduce button bloat by making remove magic, curse, poison, purge etc all into one totem (maybe) - Healing wave to me just feels like a bad healing surge. Make healing wave longer cast time and much more powerful to differentiate it a bit? - Farseer triggered by e.g. healing stream totem rather than undulation and epecially clunky unleash life - Less talents that randomly proc something. E.g. deeply rooted element just feels so bad to proc when u dont need to heal anything - Make earthliving weapon more powerful - there is even a new talent adding 20% more healing to something already so weak. - Make ghost wolf run at 40% instead of 30% by default
Agreed on ALL points. Also really like what MadSkillz said about totemic projection, and clicking the totem twice to move it, that should be for all totems.
@@Monkeyman5550If 3 specs have this primordial wave, why not just put it in class tree? Also the fact that it needs time to spread and does slight healing (in SL this spell was mega) after cleave is frustrating sometimes. And yes, there are many other covenant spells that can do better at this point.
@@Monkeyman5550 in tww it'll cost only one point, but in live it cost 3, for it to be """""worth it"""""; It used to apply flameshock, if an enemy was targeted, but blizzard removed it for reasons, so It's another button to press , for a 30-45 seconds CD and 40% on cleave healing wave ; People reallly wanted vesper totem or chain harvest, because they were actually visible and fun abilities, but blizzard not even questioned which one players wanted and, despite the 2 year negative feedback on the talent, they still force it. I, particularly, just think it's a boring button, and never take it, but it bothers me that it is taking the position of something actually cool or fun, and we're not having it just because the devs want to keep an old and unfunny joke about shamans never geting anything in new exps;
I have been played wow since forever. For the first time in DF I became a main healer and never looked back. I started in season 2 with Priest (Mostly Disc) and delved into Resto Shaman in season three and four. I have also made a Monk and Druid in Remix if I fancy them in the future. As the alpha and beta testing started I was set on Voidweave Disc Priest. I am now set on Resto Shaman whether its Totemic or Farseer. So looking forward to it. :D
It's interesting the way that for specs with multiple playstyles, the two different hero trees tend to lean into one or the other. Farseer is obviously split-cleave primordial wave build, Totemic is chain heal. Monks and paladins both have a casting-focused build and a melee-focused build.
Loving my shaman in beta. Elemental still needs work but resto and enhance are slapping. Ill miss stormkeeper but im happy that healing surge can spread flame shocks too.
Happy to see this video, had a uncontrolled 5 month break from the game but life is back on track and I said to myself for TWW I'm coming back as shaman meta or not and these changes are a nice confirmation for doing so! Still praying for a return of vespar totem haha
I'd like a rework for healing rain, turning it from something you just put down whenever, to something you build up gradually and carefully place once or twice a minute. I'd also like Chain Harvest to return.
My only complaint is: history points to the latest "reworked" healer ending up being overtuned (and, thus, meta) and I really wasn't wanting to play my Shammy this coming tier LOLOL
Looks like that from all the healers, Shaman's looking the most reliable and effective but whatever hero talent will pick won't matter because they will be balanced between/for certain content so what you like doesn't matter you will either play it or not at the end of the day, or you will do the opposite you will pick the "incorrect" build and suffer playing it because of that.
I'm also bad about losing stormkeeper as resto but the changes to MotE has a much better gameplay loop for damage and acid raid changes work for AoE in m+. It also makes stormkeeper unique to ele again which helps with spec identity
Downpour has a ton of potential not because of the heal but because of the HP increase. 10 % with downpour and 10% with AV. Plus 15% from elemental. That 35% increase to your health bar. Throw in earth shield and link for DR (plus other stuff link EWT and bulwark) and you can make your group/raid super tank in stack fights Unfortunately the increase only lasts 4s currently so you have to time it perfectly to oncoming DMG.
I really hoped for a change in deeply rooted elements... I dont really enjoy the randomness. Maybe increase the activation chance slightly and make it trigger from healing surge instead of riptide. The proc could save a risky situation without you relying on it or it being to strong.
Haven’t played Resto yet but Elemental feels downright awful (again? Still?) Maelstrom generation is bugged or intended i dont know.. the Talents Choices STILL forces you into playing around Flameshock and Lavaburst even thought you simply want to spam Chain Lightning and Spenders.. and about Skyfury.. i mean because all Shaman Specs will have access to it Elementals will still not be invited to raids or be part of a roster because you can simply invite a Resto Shaman who can provide the buff aswell and is more useful than Ele 😂 why invite an Ele Shaman when you can simply pack two mages lol and enhance getting ripped off his niche ability with Windfury will probably make it difficult for them aswell to be part of a Roster IF they don’t overbuff Ele and Enhance Damage. But if they get rid of Button bloat on Enhance i think it will be in a very good spot damage wise.
In my opinion, the current iteration of Rshaman sucks. Overall, the new Talent Layout is cool, but some of the Talents are just clunky to use in their current form. First and foremost, I think the spec will suffer from loosing Stormkeeper, since burst dmg has a high value in M+, being able to focus prio Targets. At this point, Rshaman lost all of it's burst window. The concept of Downpour is nice, but it is not practical in its current form - at least not in M+. You'll always try to maintain Healing Rain from the start of the fight, so most of the time, there won't be any damage to heal. The 6 sec window is way to short to activate it, especially on totemic, since surging totem is on a longer cd. The new defensive options are mostly niece and won't fix any problems the class/spec currently has. That might change with tuning but in its current form, pressing Stone Bulwark is nothing but a wasted gcd, since the total shield is less than 20% of the max Hp, so it won't provide alot of value against hard hitting abilities. It's a bit stronger against rot dmg but that is usually not an issue. The other notes are barely worth mentioning at this point. Wellspring is an ability that still has to be addressed, or removed. In its current form, it will stay at a sub 90% pick rate, especially since it compares with DRE, which got some nice synergy with the Ascendance haste-talent. Even tho, I'm still not a fan of the rng nature of that talent, especially as a Healer. And then there is Pwave, and I still can't believe that that's the only remaining option from the covenant abilities. It's way to set up heavy and provides barely more healing than a stacked Chain heal, and it provides no DPS value. Since Rshaman now has a way to spread Flameshock, it might be cool to have some Lava Burst interaction... but i'd rather just have Vesper Totem or Chain Harvest, at least as an option.. It's nice that they finally addressed shaman, but those changes can't be called "rework". It's an undercooked iteration of Talents that they came up with, within a week. Hopefully they will iterate and improve the spec further.
Exactly this, couldn’t agree with you more! Once they nerf that +10% max hp and % healing, this spec is gonna get rekt, because rn healing perspective is probably only a good thing for resto shaman, damage and dr wise are either nerfed or unchanged(don’t try to argue the certain element type of dr, trust me it’s gonna be useless for the next expansion due to its value, timer, and situations)
40% of a healing wave which is buffed by Unleash Life is tiny? Obviously you should learn to use PM properly. A great spell - just not so easy to use like CH.
Question, when running totemic and down pour , when you place surging totem down for healing rain do you activate down pour by pressing that same key bind or you have to add a key bind for it?
Many changes seem like nothing but happy for some love. However mana tide haling surge interaction is cool. The absorb totem is also cool but with character placement limitations on it, the fact that it absorbs less than mage mass barrier is an insult.
I would like for primal tide core and pwave to swap spots cause it’s a little hard to get to it in my opinion. Otherwise I really like the new layout and changes.
I'm a huge fan of these changes. I hope they buff the numbers of Stone Bulwark Totem, but other than that blizzard impressed me with these long awaited changes.
One thing you mentioned a lot about totemic is that it would help keeping AV up on lots of people. Is farseer any better for that now, is totemic still better, or is it more of a wash between the two?
I Didn't even think of that. I would hope the free chain heals from totems on totemic give out Ancestral vigor as well as the chain heals from the spirits. Thanks this gives me a good question next time i catch a stream.
@@DawgACchain heals from the ancestors don’t apply the buff, chain heals from totemic do. Mainly because it only applies from healing from you, not pets/summons. Farseer seems way more passive but if you like riptide and pwave it might be the play at least for some situations.
how can u use addons in beta?o.o i tried multiple times and all the time none of them works and got multilayered error that u cannot turn off untill u forcibly turn off all addons
Giving players more is always great. Once you take away from players, it is no longer great and objectively a bad design choice. No reason for Paladin's to lose Ret Aura and there's zero counter argument saying it is justified. Paladin's bring utility is their logic, when all the utility comes from Prot and Holy. Ret just got shafted hard and it's a melee class so it's objectively harder to play.
Shaman have tooo many keybinds! In my oppinion, remove all the none basic spells like undulation, wellspring, primodorial wave, and then reduce the totem choises to not be new totems, but change effect on existing, so i dont have to change bind for each build or content
Enh Shamans are just hypocrites. Raids are taking them because of Windfury Totem but they don't even want to play this talent xD Now it gives stat, the same effect, is raid buff (not party buff), and is out of the talent tree.
Judging by the comments, Resto Shaman mains are the worst community next to DH perhaps, Rsham was op in s1 and good for the rest of them always having people doing title keys with Rsham. But, if you ask Rsham mains how they are, they will throw their tears at you how their spec is so undertuned and sucks and nobody takes Rsham in their +2s. Its the best pug healer with most carry potential, and suck my d if you wanna cry i was 3.5k on Rsham last season this season i switched to mw this season cuz i like the playstyle more thats all, but there are still big aoe situations that i would rather be on sham than MW.
Sham we OP for 2 weeks on 10.0.7 at the end of S1. Before then we were just meh. Not bad but not great Then they nerf us at the start of S2. We were very good (not great) at the start of S2, but our tier set was awful and we got lapped by the other healers once they got geared. My point here is your underlying reason for the resto community being problematic is straight up wrong. If anything the resto community doesn't complain enough.
