Husqvarna 572xp vs. Stihl ms500i R, Both Stock 

Interesting results. I am surprised to see the numbers come in that close with the 10%+ difference in displacement. I suppose they could be different on a hot day and a higher altitude.

Critter87 hi. Less weight & more power - but a little bit different kind of power. What's not to like, lol. Rural Eastern Oregon, what can I say... I had the best neighbors ever there. The guy behind was a contractor. On both sides they were and are working people. Across the street was another contractor. I actually had great relationships. But, I was not out there day after day, until all hours of the nite either. Not on Holidays in the warm months. Not when there was a graduation party, wedding reception, or gatherings happening. I tried to be cognizant of what the neighbors had going on and worked around it... Thanks for watching.

@@hotsaws101 my neighbors suck. Since I always have to listen to roosters, dogs, and a straight piped Powerstroke with a heavy-footed owner, I stopped feeling guilty about running my tools at 0600. BTW, I still have that 380, and she still fires up whenever I drag her out. I just wish aftermarket cylinders were available for it, just in case.

8 cc difference. Will take extra weight/heavier crankshaft anyday. If a 572 weighs like a pig maybe its time for you to drop down to a 60cc chainsaw or maybe even a 50cc?

@@austindenotter19 nah, I'll just go with whatever brand has the better power-to-weight ratio. It's not about capabilities because I can certainly hump a pig all around all day but only fool would do that if there's better alternatives. And I wasn't necessarily referring to the 572 as a pig. Its more like a dog 🐕

@@ryanpoloski4322 yeah the lead dog! Lol

@@kurtdawkins253lol, to each their own I suppose.

@@ryanpoloski4322 I’m just messing around Ryan I’ve ran the 500i, it’s a seriously good saw! I had no problems cutting big stuff down, fast throttle response! It’s awesome. Husqvarna is gonna have to step it up, I still love my 395s, 385s and 372s! All modified of course. 500 is a good saw

A lot of people talking about aftermarket mounts for the Stihl

@@seaturkey5608 yepp west coast saws sells upgraded mounts for a few saws to run longer bars. I think even the 362 has some and I can pull a 28 with my grind on a 362 it's just so floppy.

Eric hi. I run the BPMR7A most of the time. Thanks for watching.

gumboot65 hi. No different that Canada only getting 462s in ½ wrap initially. Does not matter where you go,,, someone, somewhere, is outta touch... Thanks for watching.

MTF - this video - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--fAAYijaR0U.html - talks about the process a little. This video - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r8g5PWMg8lg.html - shows the latest version that is for retail. They are currently SOLD OUT due to the popularity. Mid November we might see that the availability has changed to "status green". Checking the website ~ that time would be prudent if one is needed. I think It has been a real challenge getting the raw materials to build much of anything from injection molded plastic in the last year or so. It seems to be a world wide problem also. Thanks for watching.

BT 99 hi. They are supposed to have Loctite on them. If the threads are not obliterated then that might be the trick. If the threads are indeed gone then you will have to choose from a few options. #1. Helicoil. #2. Tap the "wallered" holes to 6 x 1.0 size & pitch and use a 660 head bolt. #3. Weld up the holes. Then you will need to locate the centers, drill new holes, and re-tap to 5 x .8. #1 is the simplest. Best of luck. Thanks for watching.

@@hotsaws101 Jack, as always I appreciate you taking the time to reply to a novice (compared to you) like myself! For the record, I’ve been subscribed for 2 years now and watch every one of your videos ( many more than once/twice) and have learned quite a bit from you. If you would be so kind, and if you have the time I’d like to know the dimensions or part number for the k&n you run on your 261 builds. I have a foam filter at the moment but that k&n sticking out the back sure looks cool! I’m not sure if you have a velocity stack underneath but anyway, look forward to hearing from you.

@@hotsaws101 helicoil was the ticket!

Husky advanced enough to be durable. Money talks.

Elkhunter2008 hi. The videos of the European production versions look promising. I've had a prototype 592 since in early January. I am not at liberty to discuss my thoughts on it. Thanks for watching.

I bet it stomps on a 390 and makes a 395 nervous

572xp is faster

Ya the 572 is better then 372 xtorq by a good bit. The 372xtorq isn't like the original 371/2xp at all

Ya get what you pay for....

@@gregs8678 We are getting better longevity out of the 572 then we are out of the 462...

@@gregs8678 the husqvarna is twice the saw

Just remember that this is two saws and one man's one-sided opinion.

Gentlemen hello. I do try and remain neutral in my comments. I talk about quantifiable attributes. Measurable specifics. What a user might expect in certain applications. Don't really think I've been much of a "fan boy" of any brand, model, or displacement class of saw. I've talked about the good and bad of some, any, all saws that have been featured on this channel. As far as credibility, I felled my 1st tree "real tree" at 14. Summer of '76. At least a 2' fir with several long logs. Homelite X12. My dad was a gyppo... Sawed down trees on the West Cosst from Washington to the southern border California. Cascades, Sierra, Siskiyous, Wallowas, Coast Range, Trinity Alps, etc. Used saws that were contemporary in the '70s, '80s, '90s, '00s, '10, a broad sampling of the '20 to date, and some of the options from the '60s. I own McColloch, Dolmar, Huskvarna, Stihl, Echo, etc. As far as neutral - I talk about what I see as good and bad in saws, period. I.E.: This one has "spongy" mounts. This one weights more. Etc., etc. No saw doesn't need improvement, alteration, modifications, etc., etc. This comes from not only felling timber but working on saw on since in the '80. One man's perspective, maybe. One man's opinion based on wearing out a multitude of saws from multiple decades in multiple applications, definitely. Thanks for watching.

@@hotsaws101 thank you for taking the time to reply. I respect your experience and opinion more than most on RU-vid! Didn't mean to afend you! Again thank you for a very interesting and though provoking (guess thats the right word) video.

@@austindenotter19 Hello. Yessiree. From the commentary, this comparison has struck a nerve, possibly. Not sure of your experience. I fell timber at some point in every decade starting in '81 professionally out on the West Coast. But I nuked my first 2' diameter @ 2 ½ long log fir in '76. Had the pleasure of using saws in many decades. Rebuilding (bearings, seals, etc.) started ~ '86. Self porting started ~ '00. The opinion, wherever it is stated, then comes from a lot of actual hands on "sawyering" , in a lot of locations, over a lot of years, wearing out a lot of saws. I tend to talk about what I see & feel, both good and bad, in saws in general also. Been accused of not being a 500i fan boy as well. Although, I do think that all arborist types should own one for chunking work - because I've been in trees over the years too. Thanks for watching.

@@billybowen3023 no worries. Thought provoking, good call. It seemed to strike a nerve with more than a few. Same general approach on my part. Talked about some of the good, some of the bad. And it was on both. Thanks for watching.

Completely agree. I think the price difference is going to sway a lot of people away from the 500i, I didnt notice the lb of difference the 2 weeks I ran a 500, but I’m sure it matters to some folks. $1800 USD in the Northeast US vs $1100 is huge. My 572 is ported and polished and even with that work done by my local saw shop it was just shy of $1500. Definitely cuts a might faster than the 500i I ran a year ago too!

I paid $1300 for a new 500i wrap handlebar with 28" Stihl lightweight bar from the dealer in Missoula Mt, don't know why they would be higher elsewhere..

It's an 80cc saw vs. a 70cc saw, what do you expect? How's the 500i run vs. a 395? Ignoring the fact that the 395 is getting close to being able to have a silver anniversary.

@@daw162 ....true I suppose it’s a lot to expect a 70cc saw to weigh less than an 80cc’s saw eh?

@@davekreis3036 Canada eh?

$1500 with a 32” lightweight bar and chain from madsens delivered within the state

@@HubertofLiege i just don't see the worth in it. I just picked up a 268 xp for $300 with a 28" bar. Just dropped a 32" maple with it not long ago. Cuts great .

@@HubertofLiege Im in Ont. Canada. 500i is $1850 with a 20" bar and the 572 is $1200. I would rather have a ported old saw then a new stock saw anyway.

@@frankz1125 500 is a nice saw to run. The fuel injection gives it instant power unlike any saw I’ve run before. It’s light but can handle a 32-36 bar as long as the chain is sharp, which is always a prerequisite anyway. I put off buying one until my other saws blew up but am really impressed especially if you have to limb a lot. The quick power makes that easier along with the weight savings.

@@HubertofLiege maybe one day ill find a big enough check to cover it but until then Ill stick with my cheap saws. And yes a dull chain is a no go for me. Good talking with you. Have a good night

Jeffery hi. Interesting thought for sure. There are two bigger saws in the wind from my understanding. They might, but based on what I've seen, it's going to be a stand alone, new intermediate chassis. Like what we saw in the 385 that went up 1mm in bore for the 390 (87.9cc). My bet is that is will come in around the mid to high 18 pound mark fully fuel and ready to cut. If they do use the 572 chassis then the bore has to increase at least to 53mm with the 39mm stroke.The current 572 slug is 48mm. That is a huge amount of weight addition. I thought the rod was "smallish" in the 572. They used a small wrist pin bearing also. IF, they use the 572 chassis, but beef the crank/rod/wrist pin, since it uses the 6203 class crank bearings then that would be a giant leap forward for Husqvarna. That mo-chine would be an around 18 pound saw with good power. Thanks for watching.

@@hotsaws101 Thank for your thoughts. Another creator commented, if memory serves me , that the bearing on the PTO side is the same as in the 385 ish ? Regardless , sounds indestructible, minus the weight gain . Even though there is an advantage in cc's in comparison of these to saws , the real world test would be walking into the respective dealerships & asking for an .404 rim spocket .🎆

572 has more rated hp than the 576 according to husqvarnas website. However I would like to hear his opinion on the 576 vs 572 and why husky has the bigger saw at a lower rated hp number

Torque... HP is speed torque is pull

You are wishing they would bring back a 281 or 288 which are heavy saws and are slower than the current saws on the market?

They would come around without having to do much. And the ergonomics were good imo. I know they can't thanks to the EPA but looks like they could produce a good 80cc option

In the beginning of the video. Jack said the husqvarna dealer said a 572 would outperform a 500i. I think that’s what he was showing us. Totally agree 462 and 572 is a better comparison.

IMHO it’s the power to weight that is the main difference here. Stihls build really good running saws, but lack in the durability aspect of things. Husky builds really durable saws but are down in power compared to weight. It really all boils down to what kind of work you’re doing and how you run, and treat the saw in question.

@@jakemesa3211 if you are going to be hard on a saw then you had better get a Husqvarna

@@jakemesa3211 Well said. All of us small time cable skidder guys here in Maine run husky’s. Those lasers have a tough life bouncing around the cab of a skidder all day...

Ben hi. A Husky Rep. There are a number of videos on this channel dating back 3½ years or so that show a 462. Not to far after a 572. Many comparison videos between the two starting around 3 years ago. Thanks for watching.

Edward hi. Keep in mind that this was posted in March, 2021. It was filmed 4 or 5 months prior in 2020, so almost 2 years ago. Husqvarna was still doing prototype testing with the 585s. I did have a prototype 592 in January of 2021. I did not get a 585. I did not forget. I chose not to. Currently the cost of a 5ooi with the Stihl lw 32" ranges from $1459 to $1530 depending upon the shop. That's been pretty stable since they came out. The 572, with the same 32" Stihl lw bar (which requires the Cannon bar spacer @ $15 to 20) & chain ranges from $1325 to $1340. Seems like they have gone up a little. These are wrap saws and the aforementioned prices are for wrap mo-chines. I called several shops that carry both Stihl & Husqvarna saws. I called independent saw shops as well. It is 0.2 of an oz difference in the oil capacity. The 572 holds a fuzz more. It's 2.05 of an oz difference in the fuel capacity. The fuel hogg 5ooi holds more. As far as weight differential, I am looking at wrap saws. Again, as seen here. The wrap version 5ooi is 14.8lbs dry. The ½ wrap version 572 is 15lbs. Both are from the respective websites. Husky wrap kits can weigh 8 or 10 oz more than the ½ wrap hardware. I did not spend a lot of time looking for their published wrap number, however. You must not have run to many ported saws in a production application. They can pay for the port work in a few weeks of use. Regarding the thought that the full weight is irrelevant, we are going to just have to agreed to disagree. I know that dry saws in bottom of a deep, dark yarder block will get zero work accomplished. Weight full, it's all that matters. Thanks for watching.

That is good!

@@austindenotter19 I got lots more where that came from! That one always humps up Stihl runners! Lol I’m just messing around, I’ve been called a husky humper and so it’s all in good fun.

Re arrange the letters on stihl. Shitl or if you are french L Shit.

@@austindenotter19 yeah for sure! Lol

Gentlemen hello. It could also be Maximum Slaughter,,, depending upon who does the tuning on the saw. Thanks for watching.

Agreed. Stihls not comparable.

Gentlemen hi. This thread may be about point of reference. With the harsh growing conditions, inland trees tend to have tough limbs. Heat, cold, snow loads, even wind in some places can make for a strong bough. That is a given. From my perspective cutting efficiency is centered with the chain - having been fortunate enough to have felled timber on the East side of Oregon, San Bernardino Mountains, Cascades from Washington to California, Trinity Alps/Siskiyous, Sierra, coast ranges in Washington, Oregon, and California I covered a lot of ground on the West Coast. The maintenance habits of the operator will play a huge role in longevity as well. And let's face it, there are fallers that can tear up an anvil. They don't all buy Stihl saws. Just like they don't all buy Husqvarna saws. Somewhere in the picture collection, I have one of my dad on his D7 Cat. He is parked underneath a spruce. Sitka. About 7' on the stump. Limbs that are 30/40 long - I've seen 50' long before on some old growth that I felled. We even pulped (sent into the pulp mill on a log truck for the non logger viewer) some of the big 20/30/40' limbs. Tideland, or even inland coast, Sitka often have a maximum number of limbs. They are known to go all the way to the ground on some. 8" diameter is a smaller limb on some of them. Cut a lot of 12" limbs over the years. I think the "best" were in the 18" diameter. Many times the chain would pop off even just touching a severely bound one. I spent many days falling and some logging of Sitka spruce. Seen where 3 guys with saws will gnaw on one tree for 45mins or an hour "limbing it". I'm not even going get on the bucking aspect of 3 to 8 foot "limby", Sitka trees. Because, your going to get, and be, pinched. It's going to be a lot compared to fir, hemlock redwood, alder, pine, white fir, yellow fir, most Western Red Cedar, oak, etc., etc. Although the Live Oak limbs on some of the old growth trees in the Trinity Alps are real similar to the old growth Sitka limbs of the trees out on the headlands. If you want to talk about limb bind, from super tough, long, and large diameter limbs, I would highly suggest hitting the coast in the PNW for an extended stint bucking and limbing what the "coasty's" call Grouse Ladder spruce. It's an eye opener. Thanks for watching

Hello sir. I was not trying to compare my experience to your experience, in any way.. I was simply saying for myself. When on 50+ degree slopes. Cutting and limbing juniper That can be three foot thick on the stump, and only thirty foot tall. With limbs 6+ inches in diameter and 12foot long. The bowl can still be 6+ foot off the ground after its cut. Limbing it down, to where nothing sticks up higher than four feet can be challenging at times to say the least. They have a tendency to want to roll on ground that steep, unless you fall them up hill. Even then, there is a unique set of challenges. As then there is a tendency to want to slid down the hill. When doing a hundred or so a day. There is a good likelihood I’m going to pinched more than a few times throughout the unit. Unit can be 1300 or so acres at times. Sometimes a guy can be two plus miles from the truck. So that is why for myself, and I am only speaking for myself here. Is why I prefer a sturdier saw... If I had your skill and ability Jack... maybe I would feel comfortable packing a rubber band around... That’s what the 500i feels like to me anyway. Not to mention all the electronics. It just don’t foster a lot of confidence for a guy like myself. But like I said if I had more skill, maybe I’d have all the confidence I need. Thanks for the reply sir.

@@hotsaws101 If I get someone to take me serious long enough to give me a job on the coast, I’d be there in a heartbeat. But it seems, being a young east side cutter. Nobody really wants to take me to seriously... that’s why I started posting videos to RU-vid. That way when I leave comments. People could at least have a chance to see, that while I am far from the most experienced guy out there. I’m not just some guy popping off at the mouth either. Thanks again for your time Jack.

@@jakemesa3211 I'm assuming your down in the Burns area then? I was not comparing. I backed up my mouth (work experience) with a list of areas actually felling timber, I only stating that a guy needs to cut in a few places, and it's for a little bit, to get a really good understanding on what it's like and what is takes to become proficient. Sitka Spruce. If a guy has not been in on a few years of the ones with the Maxy limbs then he's missed out. Fallers have actually hung on for dear life in the limbs as the tree(s) take off rolling down the hill. some did not make home, some did. I was always lucky enough to have jumped clear. I've made multiple comments about the spongy-ness of the 500i. One reason why I beef up the spring mounts if the customer wants that. Mentioned that the HD2 system is substandard - any kind of dry environment in any place inland - like Oregon, etc. It doesn't even really work that good in wet environments like Ireland either. Went on record saying that the primer bulb is going to be a problem at some point. And for me, when it does, it will be in the bottom of some deep dark hole. It will first thing in the morning to boot. As far as power, it runs pretty good in stock form. Better than most. But,,, I don't do stock. Because as a busheler, any and ALL stock saws run a little sluggish. On the durability aspect, the 500s have been. I've seen a 572 ( guy was running a 28" bar) that had split the flywheel side case ½ in ½. I know that guy & have felled buy & near him in many different years. Not a thrasher. It was not a roll over. I've seen where a 390 spun the crank bearing in the cases. 372s the lose the drive side bearings. Seem some of the same in Stihl saws also. Treatment, the treatment while in use will play a huge roll in the saw's service & longevity. That is what I've been saying. Also, I'm not saying that Husqvarna saws are not a little heavier built - because they are. I'm saying that they could be a little less heavily built and, if it's done right, still be durable. The ground differential between the coast and most, but not all, areas inland can be quite stark. I've seen inland cutters work for very short time periods (a few days) on the NorCal coast and head back. It's an eye opener for some let's just say.

500i did a 10-11 second cut, 572 13 seconds. You won't see much difference between 462/500i/661 or 572 in a 18-20" log tbh, I'm even surprised it's that big in this case. You burry a 28-32" bar in wood then it will be a timed difference from higher cc to lower.

@@em4703 sorry but my 372s and 572s will walk off and leave my 660s and 395xps in firewood or cookie cutting 20" - 24" wood. But long bar in big wood you will notice a different but thats common sense!! Depending on wood and chain! I make 500 cuts a day in all types of wood. 500i 10.45 vs 572 12.12 not enough time difference to just $500 difference in price. When 395s and 661 are $300 cheeper!

Whateva hi. Not sure of the assination method. Standing dead when I cut them down last May with Dave's 500i. Thanks for watching.

Glenn hi. Not sure who you think I am - no cotton top in this neck of the woods. 390 weighs a fuzz more than the 066/660 platform. Not even close to the same power, both in stock form. I spent 3 hours on the phone with an engineer in Sweden last spring. I have a much better understanding on the "what & why" they are up against. They are "trying to slim things down a bit. Keep in mind that I cut MILLIONS with Husqvarna 385/390s over the years starting with a prototype 38? (5) in '02. More volume than any other brand. So,,, I'm only being realistic. Thanks for watching.

It is for lol.

But it is…

Proof is in the puddin...all cards on the table. Pretty non bias. Mentioned the sloppy 500 mounts. Mentioned the better husky mounts. Proved the 500 cuts the 572 off. What more do you want

Mike, yah things looked like they became a little unraveled for you. Sure hope this day is better. Thanks for watching.

@@hotsaws101 Nope didn’t effect my day one way or another. Not the least bit unraveled on my end, just sharing my opinion/perspective on your view of the situation. Is that not allowed or is this a communist channel? Thanks for taking time for the candid response

Mike - it didn't just start here. Been showing saw-offs against various machines, from various manufacturers, in varying cc class ranges for a few years. A rep made an erroneous statement to me, personally, in a conversation. I'm not sure what you are complaining about, either. All your less than flattering, rude, and/or disparaging comments still, unless you waffled and rescinded one/some/any, still stand. I like the fact that YT is a voluntary sport. The viewer can, and it is easily, find something that is agreeable. More people should try it. A guy wouldn't want to get a reputation as an internet troll...

@@hotsaws101 Not quite sure what you are rambling about now. Is this in regards to my first post? One post that disagrees with you is hardly trolling but whatever you want to consider me won’t effect me in anyway. Have a swell day as I will

Compared to what?

Ummmm. Tachometer?