HX Stomp vs. Tonex - Can You Hear the Difference?

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Hi fam,
It's Nate here, and this week, I have a little tone comparison video for you to check out. I recently purchased Chelsea a Tonex pedal and liked it so much that I immediately got one myself.
This was quite the change because I have been using Line 6 products for about two decades. I guess you can say that I ended up switching from my HX Stomp to the Tonex pedal... sort of.
You'll have to watch the video to hear the whole story and listen to some tone comparisons between the HX Stomp and the Tonex pedal.
Enjoy,
Nate
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Комментарии : 94

@mattpearce79 6 месяцев назад

Ahhh the ‘I bought one for my wife’ 😂😂…I do that for all my guitar gear, only thing is I’m not married 😂😂

@jrvisions 9 месяцев назад

Hey Nate hope all is good with you and the family. I was actually considering a Tonex pedal so thank you for that! 👍

@TheGuitarFam 9 месяцев назад

Hey JRod! Nice to hear from you. We are doing pretty good. Hope you are doing great. Let me know what you end up doing gear-wise.

@tricki63 8 месяцев назад

Quite like my expieriences. I've been using the HX-Stomp for quite a while playing over a guitar box. While there are tons of effect possibilities I was never completely happy with the amp sounds or rather the feel. When I tried out the Tonex software I was already caught. Now I built up a new pedal board with the Tonex and a Boss MS-3 and I am quite happy. No endless tweaking of sounds anymore. I just scrolled thru the Tonex Lib and I found my Bread and Butter sounds. To my taste even with its rudimentary screen the MS-3 UI seems to be a bit easier than the HX-Stomp sometimes. When I compare the sounds between HX-Stomp and Tonex I hear only subtle differences which might be more a question of taste and could be perhaps dialed in with the Stomp. This little fizzyness esp. with the Brit800 which you have in your example demonstrates it quite well. I also found some nice Fender cleans which fit better to my taste than those in the Stomp. But when it comes to feel I have the impression that the sound of the Tonex esp. with crunchy tones is more "developing", smoother when you hit the string while the stomp tone is just there with a bit harshiness.

@clust11 6 месяцев назад

just found your site. Great one , great player, great everything

@JasonViator 4 месяца назад

You sound like a believable life guy....I really reasonate with you logic and your lifestyle as presented...I'm a dad who loves to play and would LOVE to have tons of gear...kids and budget come first...so the Tonex vs Line 6 was a HUGE review for me as I'm about to spend that money I have been saving, thanks for your help. It is REALLY appreciated.

@TheGuitarFam 4 месяца назад

Thanks for kind words Jason. We kind of have a "one in, one out" rule right now. Maybe that will change as we get a little older.

@veciroker 9 месяцев назад

I had helix LT four about four years, always missing something in feel when play it. Almost every day i was tweaking my sounds and never was 100% happy. Sold it and bought tonex pedal. I connected it in eff loop with my old Boss gt10 and immediately was happy with sounds and feel when playing. 90% of time I am using only 3 presets in tonex, Clean Dumble stock preset, breakup tone also Dumble stock preset, and for more gain stuff i use Tone junkie free purple plexi profile which sounds spectacular in my opinion. Very happy with my setup now!

@TheGuitarFam 9 месяцев назад

Pretty much the same experience here. Thanks for sharing.

@Stewbert_72 9 месяцев назад

You played it through wrong gear .

@veciroker 9 месяцев назад

@@Stewbert_72 i played it through same gear as i play now with tonex pedal but now my tone is much better

@zeneto8317 9 месяцев назад

Got a tone x less than a month ago and didn’t even have a chance to use the software. Put my drive pedals in front of it and delay after, gave it a couple tweaks and the thing simply sounded awesome straight into the mixer. Still there’s so much more to explore. Couldn’t be happier about it.

@stringedaz 2 месяца назад

I bought the tonex capture rig. All my tube amps are on the unit now. Exceptional product. Real easy to use, too.

@NFMorley 6 месяцев назад

Running both HX Stomp and Tonex myself - I really like the Tonex Amps, but do find myself using the Stomp for some models that I've got really dialled in. Tbh, neither replaces the other for me - even if HX Stomp isn't my amp, it's still most of my effects; and using the Tonex with it let's me use really DSP intensive effects like poly pitch shifters without making compromises in presets.

@marcosatry 9 месяцев назад

For me ToneX it's more Natural and Open....

@yrebrac 7 месяцев назад

yep my full Helix is the same. It sounds more compressed or "in a box". I've had to work very hard to make my Helix sound more satisfying and soulful at times. I'm impressed with how "live" the tone x sounds.

@jmhatutube 5 месяцев назад

I bought a Tonex because it allowed me to rehearse, practice, and many other things that a pedal like this has the potential for. I love my Tonex, and will probably always use it in some form or another. Now I'm looking for a more complicated approach that lets me have my settings accessible by song. This way I can get songs set pre-gig and then play through the gig with confidence that I've got my sound ready for the next song rather than trying to remember the settings of a bunch of pedals. The Tonex helps to minimize how many pedals I need, but I'm not sure I've figured it out well enough yet to get everything set up like I want. I have an extra a/b pedal setup specifically for banking up and down so I can set my presets based on the setlist. Something I ultimately want to master. I've been looking at the other processors and the one I like the most is the Fender Tone Max Pro. But it's too expensive; especially with, what seems to be, still a bit problematic. Your video has helped get my head around a few concepts I need to understand better, so thank you for that.

@MikeColeVocals 9 месяцев назад

Great comparison of tones. I’ve never been able to bond with the Line 6 gear as it always sounded a little sterile for my liking and the feel for me just wasn’t there. Hearing the Sweet Child solo totally solidified why I want a ToneX pedal. It sounds more amp-like to my ears and involves way less menu diving to get good sounds. Looks like this is exactly what I’m looking for in my ampless rig. Thanks for the great content!

@TheGuitarFam 8 месяцев назад

Sure, thanks for watching Mike.

@kierenmoore3236 15 часов назад

So long as one is prepared to pay for good Captures, I suppose … 🤔

@FastRedPonyCar 6 месяцев назад

I’ve owned all the modelers at this point (our singer has a WC that I used for a few weeks building patches for him) and I think the tonex pedal is cool for a very stripped down type sound but I couldn’t notice any quality or feel difference that made it seem like a must have device vs my stomp HX. Quite the opposite in fact. Being able to split the output of the stomp where one signal with an IR goes to the house and another without can go to a power amp and guitar cab is HUGE for gigging musicians who still prefer a real guitar cab behind them instead of an FRFR. I would sum my experience up with “if you want to capture amps or use profiles without the big Kemper price and want more features than that new little Kemper pedal, get the tonex. If you want more features, routing options and signal chain flexibility, get the stomp HX) Personally, I went with the Fractal FM3 and my stomp is my backup amp in a bag. The FM3 crushes the stomp HX but for double the price, it damn well better.

@justmehere6094 9 месяцев назад

The HX Stomp presets needed a little more presence, and they would all have sounded almost exactly.

@digitalchris6681 9 месяцев назад

I've owned Helix LT, Quad Cortex and Kemper; but quickly sold them all . Now I have a Tonex pedal and it's a keeper: it both sounds and feels like an amp and is almost plug 'n play (took me a couple of hours to clean out the factory models and load it with some amazing Amalgam Audio and Tone Junkie ones). (PS my three UAFX amp pedals are also great, but expensive one-trick ponies).

@TheGuitarFam 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing your experience with this. The UA pedals have caught my eye a few times, but like you said, they are kind of one trick ponies.

@bikeman1x11 5 месяцев назад

tonesz is crap- no gain needs external pedals

@digitalchris6681 5 месяцев назад

@@bikeman1x11 True if you use the factory models/presets. 3rd party ones are great without needing additional gain

@bikeman1x11 5 месяцев назад

@@digitalchris6681 none sounded as goodcas they did on tone net

@kierenmoore3236 15 часов назад

Kemper is still right up there with ToneX, I feel … depending on the profile/capture, it can be very difficult to pick a favourite between them for any given occasion …

@jtpublsh 9 месяцев назад

was using stomp pedals because I really like the sound of them but now I use my Tonex in effects loop of my HX effects and midi it this allows me to have different amps on each snapshot giving me the ability to have access to 4 amps or the same amp with 4 different gain stages per preset

@TheGuitarFam 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching and posting your experience with this.

@jwuonog 5 месяцев назад

I hope Tonex comes out with an all-in-one type of pedal, like a Helix Floor

@TheGuitarFam 5 месяцев назад

I’m waiting for that too.

@DannyCruzCreations 4 месяца назад

Loved Santeria at the end!

@TheGuitarFam 4 месяца назад

It's a fun song. I should have done that one a long time ago.

@DannyCruzCreations 4 месяца назад

@@TheGuitarFam Anyway, I just found you after searching for some TONEX reviews. Great stuff. Sub'd.

@LucasFernandesSilveira 8 месяцев назад

I'm here just say that I loved to hear Eric Martin's Band solo! Huge fan here =D

@hockeyman2274 7 месяцев назад

I use my HX stomp xl with my tonex. Except the tonex, for some reason, will not connect to the librarian, so I sent it in for repair. The line 6 products are more dependable and do much more. But it is up to the user to decide.

@L1NEKER 8 месяцев назад

Hey, Nate... good video!!! TONEX ruless!! ♥

@TheGuitarFam 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching. Yeah, I'm still really impressed with the Tonex.

@dsreiff 4 месяца назад

this is video is great. question: do you still experience HX Stomp's "feel" issue with the ToneX in the Stomp's FX loop? I am unsure what it is about the HX stomp that introduces the oft-cited "feel" issues - if it's just the amp/cab/IR then perhaps putting the tonex in the FX loop and just using the HX's effects fixes that issue... but if it's something broader about the HX signal chain, then I'm worried I will not reap the "feel" benefit with the Tonex in the Stomp's loop. Any thoughts? Thanks so much!

@TheGuitarFam 4 месяца назад

That's a good question. No, I didn't experience the feel issue with the Tonex in the loop of the Stomp.

@roydy924 7 месяцев назад

I like the Tonex and I own the HX Stomp. My only problem with either of these units is picking the right IR for my patches. I just don’t have time to load and try different IRs to find the perfect match.

@TheGuitarFam 7 месяцев назад

For my HX stomp, I just ended up picking three cabs that I know I like in real life from the Celestion.com site and it really helped me narrow things down. Those are pretty much the only IRs I use now.

@frama7844 8 месяцев назад

Usually, I play a Kemper and love the tone. but it´s bulky and has some serious design flaws. Nowadays, I play with my basic drive pedals into a HX stomp and that sounds very usable, but some kind of 2D-ish. The same, I can hear in your samples! The tonex sounds way wider and more open to my ears. Maybe, I really should give it a try🤔

@davidjoel111 7 месяцев назад

I’m using a Tone X thru the loop of an HX stomp, use the tone x for all amp/cabs and the stomp for effects or sometimes I like to do a dual amp thing. I’ve never been able to make the Stomp sound like the Tone X, especially on edge of breakup tones, the line 6 always has an ugly breakup, like line clipping.

@gustavoloebel 2 месяца назад

TOP! Do you feel any latency on using Tonex in the send and return of HX Stomp?

@davidjoel111 2 месяца назад

@@gustavoloebel not really, if there is any I don’t notice it, I use this setup at the studio, live and for practice.

@ianbrailsford5843 9 месяцев назад

I'm using them together. The Tonex runs in the loop of the Stomp and the Stomp is controlling Tonex patch changes via midi. Best of both worlds. EDIT typed this before that part of the video. 😂

@TheGuitarFam 9 месяцев назад

I haven't got into using midi when using them both, but I probably will in the future. That looks pretty seamless.

@mbibikov 9 месяцев назад

It’s useful video, thanks

@TheGuitarFam 9 месяцев назад

Sure. Thanks for watching.

@rhoydotp 9 месяцев назад

That Pink Floyd solo really put the Tonex over HX Stomp amp modelling. For the most part they sound similar but that last one, wow! I had a PodGo and played with the Helix before, Tonex just sounds more natural. Yes, definitely, the all-in-one aspect of Helix is a great thing to have, though. I ended up with Tonex with a bunch of other pedals I already had.

@TheGuitarFam 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching and putting in your two cents.

@guidedbyechoes 5 месяцев назад

I know this is an old video, but having both is the best of both worlds. Tonex allows you to have models the line 6 doesn't have and the line 6 effects are quite good. Plus with the tonex you can weed out the amps that don't work for your situation.

@love4thetruth 5 месяцев назад

The Helix is my favorite.

@artreemusic2646 Месяц назад

nice test. did you use the same IR in both devices? For live whatever. For recordings only Tonex

@TheGuitarFam Месяц назад

Thanks for watching. No. I used whatever the capture had for the Tonex, and the stock cabs that go with the amps that I used on the HX Stomp. I figured that would give a better out of the box representation.

@AlexJonesAuraural 8 дней назад

You can also use the HX Stomp as an audio interface to run the TONEX app I made a video showing how to configure it all ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s6pWaRIJSMo.htmlsi=hFNwOF6MMu2jkM8Q

@Jesterfizz 5 месяцев назад

What do you play the pedal through live? A pa speaker or some cab?

@TheGuitarFam 5 месяцев назад

If I'm playing live, it's almost always through a PA. If I'm at home, it's just direct into the computer.

@christianpacode 10 месяцев назад

I felt exactly the same with the hx stomp; I was going crazy about how the heck everyone is going crazy over it when I felt like it was really missing some life in it sound. I got a UA Dream 65 and as soon as I plugged the hx stomp in the Dream OMG! it gave the stomp what it was missing

@TheGuitarFam 10 месяцев назад

I’ve been wanting to try the UA pedals.

@christianpacode 9 месяцев назад

@@TheGuitarFam the dream is something man! You should!

@BobSince1981 9 месяцев назад

I have used my Tone X with drive pedal captures going into a UAFX Dream 65 and liked how it sounded. I have also used it for amp and cabs.

@pauljosse 8 месяцев назад

based on this, ill stick with helix

@yotabirdman 6 месяцев назад

Are you using captures or the modeling

@TheGuitarFam 6 месяцев назад

I believe those were captures.

@TheOnlyGuitarFather 8 месяцев назад

The tonex is probably the best modeler on the market to be honest. Not to say the others are bad.. but at a technical point, the sound files match up way more than any of the others…. Plus tone capturing that’s better than the kemper in my opinion. IK Multimedia needs to release a direct competitor to the helix and qc because I think they would blow them all away

@TheGuitarFam 8 месяцев назад

Yeah, I'd love to have a "Tonex" with all the effects bells and whistles built in.

@deskducker 6 месяцев назад

Agreed. Have quad cortex. While that unit sounds very good on its own, the Tonex is a noticeable upgrade in sound quality. More 3d, better depth, and amp capture “breathe” more. Hard to describe. I really want the qc to sound better, especially for what it is capable of. It simply doesn’t.

@AlexAlexAlexMartin 6 месяцев назад

More important question….. can you feel the difference? Yes!

@a-iz4pg 8 месяцев назад

When you say "It doesn't feel right", what does that mean?

@TheGuitarFam 8 месяцев назад

It's something about the initial attack on the notes when you pluck them. It just doesn't feel the same as when you have an amp with a microphone on it. That's just me though.

@a-iz4pg 8 месяцев назад

@@TheGuitarFam Has its improved with updates?

@TheGuitarFam 8 месяцев назад

@@a-iz4pg The feel of the HX has stayed more or less the same to me. It's still good though.

@randymolnar7745 5 месяцев назад

Are u located in and around the GTA area?

@TheGuitarFam 5 месяцев назад

Hi. No, we are just outside of Vancouver in Abbotsford. Are you in the GTA?

@ramspencer5492 2 месяца назад

I think the Tonex handles dynamics, volume and tone changes more like a real amp. It feels more dynamic

@TheGuitarFam 2 месяца назад

Yeah, I felt the same way.

@VelezBiH 2 месяца назад

I have a Pod Go which has the same amp models as Helix. And to me the biggest improvement in Tonex is feel. I love the way Pod Go sounds but the feel is MUCH better on Tonex hands down. I will not part ways with PodGO instead i am picking Tonex and it will just become my primary Amp and PodGO will be used for effects and also as a backup solution.

@TheGuitarFam 2 месяца назад

Yeah, the Pod go and HX stomp are great all in one solutions but the tonex feels better. Learning toward a similar setup with hx stomp and Tonex 1.