Hybrid or Long Iron? SHOCKING RESULTS!

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Is your long iron the right club choice for your game?
This #tourtrucktuesday I’m at Aviara Golf Club going through the on course scenarios you should consider when testing a rescue / hybrid club. Not only will I provide the visuals you should look for in ball flight but the Full Swing Kit Launch Monitor is also present to confirm all ball launch data.
Your rescue or long iron choice is an integral part of your game but have you considered, certain chip shots or bunker play to help with the decision.
I put the new TaylorMade Qi10 & Qi10 Tour through a direct comparison with my P770 3 iron and I think the results will actually shock you.
First time hitting the KBS Proto Hybrid shaft as used by Jon Rahm, this was also a surprise feature of the video.
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@bak3r06 20 часов назад

Lol the ball striking sound effects in the beginning. Too good.

@markbaner5385 8 месяцев назад

Love to hear that you and Finch are representing Europe in the GoodGood cup!

@jasonmari4522 8 месяцев назад

This is just an unbelievable review. Love that you added situations to these reviews makes them that much better!

@nielsouwehand4540 7 месяцев назад

great video. nice to see someone testing hybrids and on a course instead of a simulator

@trottiegolf 7 месяцев назад

Can do more on course if that's what folks wanna see

@maxoutauto 7 месяцев назад

@@trottiegolf I would love to see that really would help my game as a mid handicap

@Keystone25210 7 месяцев назад

@@trottiegolf Teach me how to hit out of the rough with a mid/long iron

@spartan3594 7 месяцев назад

As a new golfer I have never considered using the hybrid close to the green - can't wait to get on the course and try it out now

@Plachtypus 8 месяцев назад

My dream is still to be fitted by Trottie for a full bag but then get to build the clubs with him. Completely understanding my numbers for each club and having that expertise to tell me what's better for me would probably make a world of difference.

@thejoker7323 8 месяцев назад

You’d still shoot 110 👍🏻

@danp9646 8 месяцев назад

Still better than my 144

@DMKFACTOR 8 месяцев назад

You know you could get any golf coach/PGA Pro to fit you right? I had my golf coach go to PGA TOUR SUPERSTORE with me for my fitting. He worked with the fitter explaining my game and the types of heads and shafts that would work for me. A fitter at any store doesn’t know your game well enough to be able to fit you properly!

@tgippp 8 месяцев назад

I am a decent chipper…like it’s not a shock when I chip in for par or birdie every once in a while… But about 2 years ago I decided I was going to hybrid putt that 💩 if I didn’t have rough/other stuff to go through…and man that is the most useful and foolproof shot in the game 🤩

@Murf1802 8 месяцев назад

Every golf company should hire you to show the how and why, An amateur like myself who thinks he knows alot but really doesnt, i believe its called an Ego,after watching this clip I can say I'm 100 % more knowledge then i was 10 minutes ago, id love to see you show 5 ,7 or even a 9 wood up against the same lofts on the Rescue, ill always have that 5 wood but any loft higher then 18,or 19 degrees is up in the air, definitely could go either way ,but if your a traditionalist you have to stick with fairway woods or those garden steaks, the long iron after i break the heads off lol ! Thanks man great stuff!

@trottiegolf 8 месяцев назад

Great feedback - LOVE IT!

@ericsmata 8 месяцев назад

I'm a bad golfer, oddly I suck at my woods but I can almost always flush my long irons including a 2 iron

@Fractalgeek 8 месяцев назад

I used to be 1w - 4w - 7w - 4 rescue. I'm now 1W - 3W - 5W - 4h/4i - forced by manufacturer options. Winter, I love the 4H from softer lies, and hit it great. Summer, the 4i gets used as a driving iron, and I run further off line, so a low one to recover from under trees is great. I can live with one pair of a high stopper vs a lower runner of similar distance - enough elevation changes on my course to be useful. More feels like overkill.

@andrewmurdoch1937 8 месяцев назад

I went for a fitting last night as I need a club between my 3 wood and 4 iron. 5 wood was a no go as it went too high and was almost going as far as my 3 wood and far too much spin, even with the 2 iron and 2 rescue I found them quite spiny but I loved the feel of the tour rescue and think that might be my choice.

@SmithyyyII 8 месяцев назад

Did you try a 7 wood?

@roberttaylor1801 8 месяцев назад

We all like decent gapping. In my game I carry 2 clubs at 19°, both giving very different results. A Hybrid that gives plenty of height and adequate distance. The old school 2 iron gives me a lower flight, a lot lower but ideal into the wind. Here in the UK where the wind is prominent it has to be the best option. I liked the review very informative but there in California it is an easier option, over in the UK not so much

@steelwarrior105 8 месяцев назад

Sameish here, just got fitted for 2 24 degree clubs, the hybrid is an extra 10 yards of carry and 10 ft of peak height. Honestly thought about replacing my 5 wood with a 3 hybrid as well for the versatility.

@bluetoughguy 8 месяцев назад

seems relevant! I just bought a hybrid because I can't get on with my long irons! I feel like if you're a heel striker of the ball, irons aren't a bad play, but if you're mainly a toe miss, you really need that gear effect to help not lose accuracy and distance.

@MrUlfdub Месяц назад

"Hybrid / Rescues have been around about 20 years". Actually it's more like 50 years. The first 1 I became aware of when I started playing in the early-eighties was the 1976 Cobra Baffler (huge twin brass rails on the bottom, a further refinement of the Little Slammer made by Founder Tom Crow for his former Company PGF in Australia). This spawned many imitations including the Stan Thompson Ginty (a keel soled 7 wood head on a 3 wood shaft). I played both. Around 1987 I discovered TaylorMade Cleek / Rescues. First introduced in 1983 as the Tour Cleek, The small headed metal woods had steel runners on the soles and were very useful out of long rough (I still have SEVERAL different models that sneak into the bag from time to time). I am also still gaming a full bag of TaylorMade clubs that include the new hybrids and I must say I prefer the larger headed ones (I REALLY struggle with the tiny headed Tour Hybrids). Perhaps my years of successfully using similar size clubs come into play here. Keep up the good work!

@jrrichkus 26 дней назад

Had the QI10 hybrid and it was probably me, but it was the least forgiving hybrid I ever hit.

@paulsmith8281 8 месяцев назад

Getting fitted next month thinking about a bag of head covers starting irons at 6 iron

@mikewilliams6086 Месяц назад

Love it! Now whats the discount code?😂

@DMKFACTOR 8 месяцев назад

Swing speed is a HUGE factor too. The lower your swing speed the better a hybrid Will perform for you vs a long iron. I’m 51, a newly anointed single digit player 9.8, and I’ve removed my 4-5 iron this year, and the results are INCREDIBLE! I’m hitting both a club longer in distance, and increased my accuracy with both on approach shots! It’s definitely helped me lower my scores on long par 3s and approaches on par 5s! Even the long par 4s, I’m hitting those greens much more frequently now too.

@fontyyy 8 месяцев назад

So true, you can half swing a hybrid that replaces a 4i at 60mph and the ball will still get nicely airborne, try that with a 4i and it feel like you've hit it with a putter.

@firstname2072 8 месяцев назад

Not just swing speed but swing path. I have a high swing but also an in to out. Cannot hit a hybrid to save my life but can fly a 3 iron 210m and stop if on a soft green.

@simonshotter8960 8 месяцев назад

I just bought a hybrid. I have a fast swing speed too.. maybe should have got a longer iron?

@DMKFACTOR 8 месяцев назад

@@simonshotter8960 No, remember tour pros carry hybrids now too. For high swing speed players you get forgiveness that a long iron would never give you. 3-4 irons are DEAD!

@DMKFACTOR 8 месяцев назад

@@firstname2072 I have an in to out path, and have no issues whatsoever hitting a hybrid!

@bradshuby 8 месяцев назад

I actually run a strange bag for this reason. Some shots I love my 2i hybrid or 3 iron, while some I love my 4h or 5h on. I think it is good to give myself this variety because I just want to feel comfortable over the ball and have the tool to do so with!

@squidwarddeep5064 8 месяцев назад

You have a 5 hybrid and a 3 iron?😂

@bradshuby 8 месяцев назад

@@squidwarddeep5064 I like the irons off the tee/rough and the hybrids off the fairway, feels easier to me and can shape the shots better

@squidwarddeep5064 8 месяцев назад

@@bradshuby interesting, what 3 iron are you playing?

@bradshuby 8 месяцев назад

@@squidwarddeep5064 Wilson staff 21 degree

@davidstovall8573 4 месяца назад

Of course the hybrid goes further, 2* stronger and a longer shaft. Duh!!! So what, everybody is caught up with distance when distance control is what counts. Hybrids are great for higher handicaps but give me a long iron anytime if I'm trying to hit a certain target. I'm 66 been playing since I was 12 and I play with standard loft 25* 5 iron Srixon forged heads and standard weight steel shafts 3-wedges. I hit a 3 iron 190-200, nice and high with plenty of spin. You can also drive it under the wind and I chip with it too sometimes from lies exactly like he said you can't use a 3 iron from. Just want people to know that you can play golf without hybrids. My 18* 5 wood can be used like a hybrid if necessary for cipping etc.

@zbabyg6998 3 месяца назад

I'm a 4 hdcp and I love my hybrids. I could never hit an iron 240

@eclark9965 Месяц назад

Hybrids are better out of the rough and RU-vid yardages aren’t to be trusted. I can hit a 2 iron pretty easily. I still carry a hybrid for certain shots. The club is just automatic

@jeremypearson6852 6 месяцев назад

As a 61 yr old man, I will always use the hybrid if I can.

@trottiegolf 6 месяцев назад

Makes sense as a result of the launch and spin. I'm in the process of considering a driving iron, just can't do the HYB yet

@atamagashock 2 месяца назад

Just ditched my 5 wood in favor of the qi10 3 hybrid. Love it and it’s so versatile. My only issue is I keep questioning myself if I should have gotten the tour model. I play the LS driver and still have my stealth 2 plus 3 wood. Less spin is what I need. I’ve never had an issue getting the ball up, it always been about keeping it down for me. When I hit the core model driver, I had serious ballooning issues no matter what I did, so the LS was the obvious fix, so I’m wondering if the tour might work a little better. I do love what i have and it does seem like it’s the more versatile of the twofl

@trottiegolf 2 месяца назад

You love what you have, that's key! Yes as a general call out the Tour will fly lower with less spin but a hybrid is a very personal club. Honestly I've fit both models and I've hit both models, very personal and you can make both work. I'd say you're in a great spot if you have a solid option in the Hybrid area

@atamagashock 2 месяца назад

@@trottiegolf you’re right, I do love it and if it’s not broken, don’t fix it. I just over analyze everything when it comes to this game. I just want the best options for me, to make the game easier, since we all know it’s the hardest sport. I should just chill out and do my thing. It’s the first time in my life that every club in my bag is new within the last year, except my putter. Over the last 6 months I’ve tinkered so much with my bag, I think it’s finally perfect for me. Just need a high bounce 60 to rotate depending on the course or possibly get the TW60 and see if I can get away with it in every condition like the 56. Anyway as always I appreciate your input, keep posting these great videos. Oh and let’s get Dean back on, he’s the best!

@trottiegolf 2 месяца назад

@@atamagashock great response and comment exchange. Love where you're at especially with the squad and the extra wedge. Stick tight and let the results come. Keep at it PLYR

@atamagashock 2 месяца назад

@@trottiegolf thanks for the exchange, appreciate all you do for the love of the game. I’m such a madman and tinkerer that as quickly as I ditched my 5 wood, I added the qi10 tour 5 wood last night. Like you always say “have a squad” I liked the idea of playing it down to 16.5. That way any fairway shots I would have used a 3 wood, I can do with this. But the squad is certainly strong and TaylorMade has some incredible equipment out right now! Cheers thanks again and keep on grinding

@Golf_Hack 5 месяцев назад

Why do hybrids look like the face is closed to me? Does that tour hybrid have enough adjustability to make it look normal to me?

@Fitter4life 8 месяцев назад

So correct me me if I’m wrong. Start of video he says hybrids have mass more to the back and they should fly higher. Proceeds to hit the iron the highest by a lot 🙃

@trottiegolf 8 месяцев назад

Yea I also said I got under that 3 iron hence the higher apex. Tough one as I wanted to do this on the course but I'm not gonna slow up play so went with it but you would normally see 15ft lower apex on the 3i if hit correctly. My bad there, poor shot but great call out!! Glad you're paying attention.

@Fitter4life 8 месяцев назад

@@trottiegolf I’m just trying to take notes as I just got a new set 5-pw and not sure what I wanna go with for the next club. Perhaps 7 wood driving iron or hybrid possibly

@CoachJones_ 8 месяцев назад

I have a hard time knowing what shaft to use in those. I play x100s in irons and do love a hybrid. Set ends at 24.5 deg so I could go 22 and 19 but don't know where to start.

@Pud56 8 месяцев назад

It’s not the degrees that matter, its distance and gapping. In a fitting, have your irons gapped, and work out which hybrid to start the next gap with. I play a 2, 3, 5 hybrid, they work perfectly for me, i then carry 7 iron upwards, Driver and 3 wood, all gapped and works for me

@CoachJones_ 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the info, makes sense to start there to make sure you're filling needed yardages@@Pud56

@trottiegolf 8 месяцев назад

@@CoachJones_ solid answer from our guy. Only addition, if you're in a heavy steel or any steel over 110g then don't go diving into 85G. Keep the weight up in the hybrid, personally I think a lot of production stuff is catered for the slower speed and is a little light for the stronger PLYR.

@CoachJones_ 8 месяцев назад

@@trottiegolf I’ll start taking a peek at a few starting around 95gs. Thanks for the response

@stevegallagher9541 8 месяцев назад

Love the content. Thoughts on 7wd instead of rescue?

@trottiegolf 8 месяцев назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-O85Lwx0BoR4.htmlsi=yTheId6lddtbqSl4 Old vid but a good one and will go through the process with a great PLYR, if you still have questions then come back to me.

@gunshow2121 8 месяцев назад

Need a 7 wood video Trottie

@stephenmatthews5080 8 месяцев назад

I just dumped my 4 iron for 7 wood and absolutely crush it! So much easier to hit.

@gunshow2121 8 месяцев назад

@@stephenmatthews5080 I just got one haven’t used it yet but I hope I have the same experience! Long irons are not my strong suit lol

@user-pl8tp1fu9z 8 месяцев назад

I get a notion that taylormades are for better players, since we dont have fitting facilities in our city, any opinion on TM for high handicappers would be appreciated.

@trottiegolf 8 месяцев назад

The stock shafts are lighter and the lie angles (for me) are 1 degree higher than where I would like them on most of the woods hence why I bend clubs flatter and use stronger shafts. These two factors and the reason TM have gone down a higher MOI route with their products this season indicate that they are focusing towards the higher hcp golfer. My advice would be buy one club in the fw wood core model and see where it takes you. Stay away from the P7MC & P7MB irons and the Qi10LS driver but everything else in the line up you will have great success with. Obv I absolutely recommend a fitting but to have the opinion that the products aren't for your game just isn't the case. Keep in mind a Tour Truck exists as the set ups of these clubs are completely different than what is in production...... with the exception of the models I list that you should avoid. Hope that helps.

@Collin-n3y 5 месяцев назад

Long iron for me goes a bit shorter, but way more accurate than a hybrid. Driving iron is my choice

@trottiegolf 5 месяцев назад

Yea I'm down that path too , to be fair

@fraserh3716 8 месяцев назад

Is a 19 degree hybrid a 3 iron replacement? Seems more like the 22 would be, for gapping purposes?

@trottiegolf 8 месяцев назад

personally I don't like seeing all the loft on the 22*, I've tried and gone there before but I didn't this season. Yes it would go shorter but for me I'd add in the 19* push my 4 wood back to a 3 wood and probably jump to a 4i or drop a wedge. As you can see a lot of adjustments required for me to game a rescue hence why "I personally" don't.

@llSkyzxll 8 месяцев назад

Will there be a QI10 UDI coming out?? as there has been a stealth and sim in the past??

@trottiegolf 8 месяцев назад

Not that I've seen yet

@TRAGICbliss 3 месяца назад

So, you're sayin' all I need as a single hybrid and I can dominate the entire course? Got it.

@trottiegolf 3 месяца назад

I mean it's useful

@CatNash007 4 месяца назад

About 1% of golfers can hit a 3 iron with any consistency. I’d go with that regular rescue.

@marqosmaldonado3970 8 месяцев назад

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@stevekoch8255 8 месяцев назад

Clearly an advertising video… but, to show me that a three hybrid with less loft and is at least an inch longer flies farther might be the biggest joke of all. Of course that is the result. 3 hybrids are not 3 iron replacements anymore. Hybrid loft jacking?

@trottiegolf 8 месяцев назад

I have deep ties with TaylorMade but I think this vid applies to anyone out there looking at a hybrid club. Ref the joke part to give a little more context. I learnt to play at a coastal town in the UK. For me to look down on 22* and play it at 3i length is just something I'm not feeling as a PLYR. To get a 3i out of my bag would be tough hence why I carry the 4 wood, to go deeper and answer your point, I made the 3 hybrid as this would be my preference and I'd then go 3 wood over 4 wood and drop straight to 4i hence why I placed in the knock down shot (scenario 3 I believe). I think I could have done a better job explaining that but when all is said and done that's what the comment section is for. The shaft at that length is where I'd have it to sit in to a different bag set up and the 22* just not for me as too lofty and an even higher apex. Albeit you could have worded your comment a little different it's a valid call out and something I'll address the next time I talk hybrids or in the case of TaylorMade Rescue clubs.

@GOLFADDICT65 Месяц назад

Hey what are your thoughts on the Qi10 max hybrid vs Stealth 2 HD Hybrid i currently have the 3 and 5 hybrids in the stealth 2 HD and love them BUT i need a 4 hybrid am i better to find an HD in the 4 hybrid or is it a better jump to the Qi10 max in the 4 hybrid ? please inform cheers from Vulcan Canada

@MXJEFF94 8 месяцев назад

Hybrids ALL DAY. Not even close. Swing half as hard, more forgiveness and goes further.

@bennybombay3819 2 месяца назад

The intro music is atrocious

@pedroayala7100 8 месяцев назад

Buy new clubs and starve for months idk

@Golfrnut 8 месяцев назад

Trottie, convince your engineering dept to come up with some bendable hosels for the average Joe. Its a bit of shame that hybrids are advocated so well for, and yet hardly any (if at all) of the major OEMs offer the ability for the average golfer to at least have a proper lie angle (at minimum) for them. Its nice and all that the tour vans have the fancy block molds, etc...but the average guy is left out in the cold on this. I've never understood why what can be one of the more important aspects to make these work for the player is overlooked for the average consumer.

@edj9961 8 месяцев назад

If adjustable, us average joes will overtinker and complain the expensive club doesn’t work…just have a fit and they can build the spec properly mate

@Golfrnut 8 месяцев назад

@@edj9961 That's not really the way that works. The average Joe does not have the ability to tinker with that. OEMs do not build to that spec, so no, that's not an answer either

@mariofonseca9267 8 месяцев назад

I agree. I don’t understand why at a minimum the adjustment sleeve couldn’t go in all the hybrids. And easier than bending for us. Can’t be cost, at the prices they are selling these!

@trottiegolf 8 месяцев назад

@@mariofonseca9267 there is an adjustable sleeve in the tour and a fixed in the standard. Obv the std can only be bent on tour. This is one where you do need a tour van to play the std at whatever lie or loft you would require.

@mariofonseca9267 8 месяцев назад

@@trottiegolf Professor i get that. However for me who is the 2 degrees up player who could really play that Max hybrid but can’t because of the lie being off and impacting accuracy this is a bummer. I would call this lazy engineering. Now the question- couldn’t we order directly from taylormade and have them bend the bonded hybrid as a custom order?

@robertsandidge441 8 месяцев назад

Look it all depends on the individual golfer. Just like drivers, cavity backs, blades, hybrids or long irons it’s individual preference. Personally I can hit long irons fine but I prefer hybrids. I carry a 19 degree and a 22 degree basically a 4&5 iron 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️