I Added Multiplayer to My 4D Game! (4D Miner Devlog #3) 

It's actually so interesting to watch this game grow from "4d minecraft" to a genuinely compelling and unique game that takes full advantage of its concept.

Making the player parts voxels is Really smart

One of these days we're going to get 4d redstone and then the horror will begin.

"That means anyone can ambush you from the fourth dimension, at any time" 💀 imagine a 3D being inside a 4D prison

Really hope this game will eventually have 4d proximity chat (no clue how that would work)

Can't wait for 4d4t base hunting.

I feel like the 'seeing player's insides' mechanic could be useful for a more hardcore survival mode, like being able to see parasites they get from unclean water or foods or maybe even general diseases with a modified set of the glasses

This is ultra cursed when you realize that you will be playing a 4d game rendered in 3d on a 2d monitor. This needs VR

4d backrooms is a whole new level of nightmare I never thought of

"4D4T, the oldest anarchy server in 4D miner" is such a goofy bit and we love it also this looks really cool! being able to use a block to switch to a certain 4D rotation is a super clever idea

This is the first Minecraft clone that's actually original enough that I think it has a chance to become a significant game, and maybe even one day go mainstream.

This game would actually be a really engaging way to explain 4D objects in an educational space. I feel like a lot of hands-on learners will benefit greatly from this. Keep up the good work man this looks amazing!

Your animation showing "Frank" with his 2D slice of a 3D world that he is able to rotate is one of the best demos I've seen for that concept

4:24 "This means anyone can ambush you from the fourth dimension, at any time." Sounds incredibly terrifying

I can’t even begin to imagine how complicated it was to code even half of this

its so cool seeing this carving out such a unique identity of its own actually. It just makes me wonder how it would be if someone were playing this like a REALLY long time and got REALLY REALLY used to navigating in 4D. I bet like pro 4d pvp would be the craziest thing to see

This game in VR would be... An experience.

This might actually start popping off. I can't wait to see the future of this game!

Players who are near you (but unseen in your current dimensional slice) having ghostly voices would be amazing.

This is unbelievable. I showed a friend this a while back and he thought it was just some gimmick but imagine how this could help the next generations to think "outside the box" bravo

The fact that every skin isn't an empty shell but actually an anatomically correct lifeform is genius (although it will freak out everyone). Designing a whole body as if you are a god of the 4th dimension, although it takes more effort, is an awesome idea. Usually if you're showing insides it's only done for horror and gore purposes but here horror isn't the main intention, it's rather a byproduct of being in one less dimension which inherently is scary.

Why does this have so little attention this is legitimately groundbreaking in the world of video games

The town just having different layers stacked on itself is so cool

Might be difficult to implement, but it would be interesting to be able to cover (hyper)surfaces of objects in "worldpaper", a wallpaper type of item that contains a 3D subworld, in order to create "And he Built a Crooked House" type scenarios. You walk through a door, and find you can no longer rotate in 4D. You are staring down a short hallway with a door at the other end. You close the door behind you and walk to the other end of the hallway. You open that door and the hallway continues, the next doorway is open, and you see yourself standing in front of it. Startled, you close the door, and then open it again. Instead of the hallway, you see an outdoor scene you don't recognize. You step outside, and find you can rotate in 4D again. You do so, and find that you're in about the same spot as you were before you walked through the first door, but your 3D slice has rotated 90 degrees. It turns out that the hallway is worldpaper wrapped around the base of a 4D pillar. When you're inside, light and objects go around 4D corners, following the worldpaper in what appear to be straight lines from the inside.

Perhaps it's worth creating a generation of cities or houses in 4d so that you don't have to create them manually?

You could indicate the distance and 4D-direction of the players by coloring the outline. So you also see how near people are to each other, according to their outline-color difference. Like redshift and blueshift. I thought about creating a 4D game too some years ago. [Edit: My bad: It's already in there. I only remembered green outlines.]

"On 4d4t, the oldest anarchy server of 4D Miner..." really caught me offguard :D well done

The thing I find most fascinating is what a 4D work looks like to a 4D being.

Would be interesting to see the player takes more damage (or dies immediately) if their internal organs are being hit by other players/mobs

now all we need is 4D voice proximity chat lol, amazing game

The development is simply amazing, and the things you're achieving are... Very impressive. I cant wait to play this with my friends! Only thing I'd say, at some point, a light "graphics overhaul" might be needed, to make everything a little cleaner, easier on the eyes, meshing together better, but as of now thats the charms of solo-dev development!

Imagine a Mysterious (detective/exploring) adventure about ancient/alien civilization or smt using 4D machanic to solve puzzle/find right combination would be intersting.

You could use a colour hue (or something similar) on the wireframe to indicate "rotational direction and distance" of a project or player.. so you can quickly rotate to that 3d environment though 4d space. Seems like a quick and easy quality of life improvement.

Would be nice to have a tool to align yourself in 4D such that the 3D projection has all the angles be right angles.

Man hiding bases is gonna be soooo much easier in plain sight

As a mathematician who is not much interested in funny video games, this one really got my attention. I believe this game has a great potential. Keep going on this game.

Genius as usual ! About sound, maybe modulate pitch instead of reverb : like a "static doopler effect", the more a object is up in the w axis from you the more it is high pitched, and opposite more low in w the more low pitched it got !

This was a ton of fun to record footage for, as always, thanks for allowing me to be a part of this game and it’s development. Also that frank resprite is awesome See you guys in the 4th dimension!

With 4 dimensions, the possibilities for griefing are endless

Very cool ideas! Keep it up👍

YOO HES BACK!! I knew that keeping the demo in my Steam library was a good idea

It's actually very interesting if you try to compute the behaviour of sound in 4D. In odd-dimensional worlds sound simply gets fainter (and of course comes with a delay) the farther you are. But in even-dimensional worlds, there is a weird reverb that is *always* on, even if you are in completely open space. Space itself is "reflecting" sound in a really complicated way.

All of this stuff is so awesome! The way the players can seamlessly play in the same world with each individual person having their own view on it is crazy. The only thing I would recommend is having a default view that players like start with, and possibly a hotkey to revert back to it. Can't wait for more videos and to be able to play this!

I was so excited for this!

i can already imagine the shenanigans you could get up to with skin creation in this game

you could add a feature where you can turn by a fixed angle in 4d space, like in some vr games where you can snap turn by 15 degrees, i feel like having fixed turning might make it easier to comprehend the 4d world since you could quickly go back and forth between two similar slices of the world.

Seeing other game devs make crazy stuff is so inspirational! Thank you for the amazing game and video!

its so cool to see how you added so much stuff to this game!

I'd love a video diving in the technical details of multiplayer and why it was so hard.

having villages that have multiple looks and ways to align yourself on some 3d slice is great, keep up the good work mashpoe!

IM GLAD THAT YOUR BACK!

this is . amazing. when this releases i will play it 24/7.

Never in my life have I clicked on a video so fast.

I have never grasped the concept of 4D before, but you literally made me understand it all in 1 minute :D

Incredible. Each update has been so impressive.

Wicked cool stuff dude. I'd really love to hear more from you

the alidade is cool, but how about a "slice binder" item that you can craft together with something to make a copy of it, and everyone with a copy has their slice rotation synchronized (they probably need to teleport to the same position first). there could also be a "slice caster" variant that makes only the original be able to change the slice rotation

It would be cool if you made the wireframe change colors based on what angle they are from the viewing plane, like in Adanaxis. That way you can see which way you'd have to turn to see them and how far.

Tbh this has so much potential, I already love the gameplay and the concept behind all this

I love how you've mad a whole ass 4D engine that renders a 3D slice of a 4D world, but somehow making functioning multiplayer was the hardest thing so far. This is how I feel whenever doing any networking.

Seeing the insides of a 2d frog is interesting Like, from a gameplay mindset, it feels weird to assume we'd be able to see the insides of a 2d being, because why souldnt thry just be the sprite But of course, 2d beings would be similar to looking at cells or amoeba in our world They would need to be enclosed But the "2d" things in our world are actually fully enclosed So, in a 4d world, if we werent 4d as well Would our insides spill out of us into the 4th dimension?

*The Return Of The King*

Imagine a 2d civilization living on a 3d planet. They are using up their slice of the planet while the rest of it is left untouched. Now imagine our 3d civ living on a 4d planet.

How have I only just discovered this now? This is absolutely crazy! You’ve got something brilliant here and I can’t wait to see where it goes. I can envision incredible portal/superliminal style puzzles that entirely reshape reality and logic. Honestly even a basic survival-minecraft-esque experience would be totally groundbreaking. Keep up the good work!

What's most interesting in this video is seeing the other players actively discuss the 4D aspect of the game and how it relates to what they want to do in that moment, e.g. destroying `other people's spaces`. It shows that the 4D really is a fun core mechanic and not a tacked on gimmick.

Out of the multiple minecraft copies/clones out there, this is the only one that doesn't feel like minecraft at all What an impressive work! I really wanna give it a try

Wow, I love this game, how you explain it is beautiful. It sounds like the future of gaming!!! I really like what are you all doing!!

A good QoL feature could be the ability to "snap" your 4D angle to a specific point, since even 3D games have issues with mechanics that are hyper sensitive to what angle you're at. Take boats in MC as a prime example. You COULD have a nether highway with no guard rails, but any slight variation in the angle can result in you flying off the trail.

Have you considered messing around with gravity, e.g. have a block or a biome that changes that changes the direction of gravity? It could be used to pull players into certain slices, also I imagine it to be hillarious in 4D space.

Will strafing through the 4th dimension get added soon? I know there is a mod that adds it, and it makes building 4D structures a lot easier to wrap your head around...

hey man, i remember see this project being born, i love your videos. Ill start supporting you as soon as ill get some money to use. love you man

This looks awesome

this is such a mind boggling concept, and its so cool to see something like this come together

I just got really into 4D and 4D miner and was binging your videos thereof and was surprised to see you last uploaded more than a year ago. I'm so glad you're back.

Good to hear things are going so well ❤

I can't wait to see what this becomes. It has so much potential, and is already looking fantastic. Nice work.

man this game is really coming together, i love what you have done so far keep up the good work.

Another genius video has been published by the genius developer! We love you, Mashpoe!

This is awesome as hell

Thank you! Thank you so much for this visualization. Let alone the concept of creating a game around it.

So I have a small suggestion because i just thought of it, but there should exist 4d walls, what i mean about that, is if you are in a cave, it should be impossible to rotate inside of rocks, as they, just like in 3d space should have a solid structure preventing things from merging inside of it. Sorry if i wrote this suggestion weird and hard to understand, ive grown up with issues saying what is in my head.

*@Mashpoe* 4:30 Can you color-code the outlines of stuff, so eg: Orange = "4D right", & purple = "4D left" ? So you always know which way to rotate your slice to see the object? :D

this actually looks so cool

I've always been fascinated by 4D navigation! The visual of Frank moving through 2D slices of a 3D world got me thinking though, why limit 4D movement just to rotation? It seems like it would be super convenient to be able to strafe sideways into a parallel 3D plane. Along with WASD for movement, Q and E could be used to move "hyper-left" and "hyper-right". The 4D glasses could also have a directional "smear" effect to indicate whether a target is to your hyper-left, or your hyper-right. This would make it easier to strafe or rotate to face a target.

I love this project. I love the sandboxiness of it.

Man, I can’t stop smiling! This is really amazing! I can’t believe that multiplayer is in! The fact that you can see each other’s insides is freaky to the max! Man. I can’t wait to see what else is in store for this absolutely FANTASTIC project.

this is so fucking interesting, good on you man not only for grinding and developing a unique game but for also keeping your integrity. i can tell you appreciate your community heavily and i love that. def might give this game a try.

man that was a long wait for another devlog lmao, glad progress is still going well

Honestly, thinking about what a 4D space would like look freaks me out for some reason. Maybe it's the hyper-spiders, I dunno

It already has his own 2b2t, fantastic. Can't wait for his very own Dream SMP and 4DHermitcraft

This is awesome! Congrats on 100k subs!

just found this today, binged all the videos, cant wait for more! had a blast just playing the demo

epic new 4d miner content

7:24 audio engineer opinion: add a hard delay, pretend it's slapping off a large wall near the source and you are x meters away (distance x time etc etc etc) a reverb will just smear all distant audio, and what you'd probably hear as a human would be the initial wave and the nearest reflection, the actual 'reverb' or late reflections don't really carry that much, it'll make it sound bigger but less natural, if you want something clean and effective that sounds real i'd just add like 100ms for 100 feet, etc, it's what i do with my room mics, if you want to be even more nutty about it you could even delay audio based on distance, though minecraft doesn't really have any giant loud sounds to show that off except tnt, if there was constant gunfire maybe it'd be worth it, I still think dayz has the best audio system i've seen to date for simulating audio travel time

This is so good omg

This is an awesome concept, and even more awesome is how you've made it praxis. This looks like a trip and a half.

This entire game sounds both terrifying an beautiful at the same time. I look forward to this an hope up play it

a lot of new multiplayer games are made to be "the new thing" but i can already see this game being pretty revolutionary, a sandbox game in 4D instead of 3D can let you have so much fun especially with everything you have taken into account like 3D playermodels or the alidate for synchronisation between players

In terms of base-building, will there be "hyper-blocks" that allow for a build to be consistent across the 4d spectrum?

congrats on overcoming the biggest hurdle, this is a huge milestone in your work. Now the ball is rolling and it will only get better.