I knew a few old school East Enders and they told me that Frazer would be in his neighbours houses robbing what little they had when they were in the air raid shelter during the blitz.
London1604@ Thats how he got into criminality, burgling houses during an air raid. All the local bobbies were not patrolling at the time for obvious reasons so he had a clear run.
Dont let the truth get in the way of a good story Frankie . The stories my late beautiful grandad told me about Fraser and how he would never stop talking when cornered
Utter Bollox. Ive read several books on Pierrepoint and his family, including his own autobiography. Every one of those books goes into great detail on the Bentley execution. Dont you think at least one of them would have mentioned this account? They dont.
Yeah, this story Is absolute nonsense. There Is no way that he could have got anywhere near Pierrpoint or the condemned cell. My great gran was good friends with Albert's wife, and so knew him as well. As a result I've done some research on Pierrpoint and the whole process, and I've never come across this account - which should be Infamous If true.
@@darkestfox-metal Why couldn't he get near Pierrepoint and the condemned cell when it was in the centre of the prison? He said he was not locked in a cell because he was sick.
@tophatanimation8748 A sick prisoner cannot be confined to a cell unless a doctor says so. It's possible the doctor had two simultaneous commitments and asked to see the sick men near to the condemned cell before sending them to their cells. The prison would have wanted to clear the hospital, because sick prisoners are able to move about and the body would have been taken to the hospital mortuary. You are guessing that, Pierrepoint would have mentioned being slapped in the course of his duty.
My father was a journalist reporting crime in South London at the time of Craig and Bentley. He became friends with Derek Bentley's mum and dad during the court case and was at their home when the telegram was delivered telling them that the then Home Secretary, David Maxwell Fyfe, had rejected their plea for mercy. That was Derek's last chance of a reprieve. My dad remained in contact with Derek's sister Iris Bentley for many years as she fought for his conviction to be quashed. Sadly she died the year before it was finally overturned in 1998.
And if you believe that.... A prison always went on lockdown ahead of an execution. No way would a prisoner, much less a known violent one, be lounging around in reach of the condemned cell.
Load of old guff I’ve never read that anywhere. where was the assistant as he would of been present likely and the perpetrations very stringent and quiet not a footstep should be heard near the cell by which a priest would be present this is cock n bull
@@SenorSol Agreed. If this dick had one of his cowardly murders pinned to him, during the time capital punishment was still in effect and he had met Pierrepoint as a customer, there would have been a puddle on the trap door prior to the lever being pulled. This idiot was a mouthy little dwarf nothing more, hate how they always tried to paint themselves as Robin Hood, working class hero's, sticking up for the people they came from. They committed crime because they wanted an easy, work free life, nothing more.
@JohnJohn-zn8ib I think it probably didn't happen as onthe morning of an execution the prison is on lockdown for this reason and to stop a full scale riot.
@@ant259 in ur tiny mind that’s never stepped outside of ur tiny world. It might be bolloks to you that’s most likely because you have led a very sheltered life. You don’t understand the type of man you are listening too. You might make up a story. But this guy has no need to! He’s the real deal for a reason.
Brilliant story teller Frankie ! A Very funny man. Utterly Enjoyable to listen to tell Great stories of days gone by . R.I.P. Frankie . It was Wonderful meeting you and Marilyn after your show in Dublin some yrs ago. God be good to you . Thank you Liam for your Wonderful interview with Frankie. I have just subscribed to your Channel. Best Wishes from Dublin ! XXXXX
It has just reminded me of a tale journalist Brian Reade tells of interviewing Frankie in a pub back in the day and him telling him such a gruesome tale about torturing someone that he had to make an excuse and go outside to compose himself. When he came back in Frankie asked him where he had got to and he made the excuse that he had been phoning his daughter who was having her first holy Communion that day, Frankie replied ah a Catholic I was brought up Catholic it never leaves you, you know.😅
My dad was on that execution in 1953. I don't ever recall him telling me about this. Furthermore, The Chief Officer would have been there and the governor, not just the hangmen. What I do know though is that all the prison was on lockdown when an execution was in progress. No exceptions...ever! In those days they had metal/enamelled cups, My dad said that no matter what was tried the trapdoor could always be heard all over the prison when it fell, upon which, all of the prisoners would hammer on their cell door with their cup. My dad was quite affected by Bentley and told us about it when I was just young. The assistant executioner was Harry Allen and his wife told me that when he got home, he said, "We should never have hanged that lad."
Very interesting. Not crazy about prison violence, or anything but it had a certain humanity and decency to the whole thing. And I’m sure Derek’s last hours were improved by that. Hopefully it was a comfort assuming he heard it.
Like a lot of Fraser's stories: a lot of bullshit. He wouldn't have been anywhere near Pierrepoint, much less close enough to attack him. Absolute bullshit.
I am happy we can look back at Videos of this great man. He can still teach us a lot of good through his words but also how to turn negatives into positives with respect & humility. A true Gentleman as well as a Hardman when required. RIP Frank 🙏
Lots people talk badly of Mad Frank I had a day in pub with him once with his son David who i worked with it was one of the funniest happy days i ever had he was so funny and storys he told us were hilarious R.I.P Frank.
If that was one of the highlights of your life, then your life must have been dreadful. I bet you wouldn't have thought Mad Frankie had you in a headlock while he pulled out your teeth with pliers.
You are talking some utter shit. No civilians. He ran a protection racket and as below says, aggravated burglary of servicemans wives. Rest in Dantes Seventh Frank
ah such a lovely kind thoughtfull man,like when he writes in one of his books about being a coward and not wanting to fight in ww2,and tells about how in the blackout while his neighbours where in the bomb shelters he would be burglarising their houses,even when he found a dead women in one,nice man,so clever to,spent all his life in prison,only time he made any money was by telling boring stories about how unclever he was,died penniless in a run down old peoples home,brain dead.
A lot of people slag Frankie off but he was a nice fella along with Charlie and Eddie Richardson they were who they were I grew up around them and they was all nice guys who always helped out there own. Other Villains were not so lucky.
His son "young mad Frankie Fraser" went up to Liverpool. Went into a pub and announced himself as "young mad Frankie Fraser" at which point someone at the bar said "shut the door on your way out Mad Frank". He just turned and left. Shithouse
Utter cods. The prison would have been (and was) on lockdown from “lights out” the night before an execution, any necessary movement of prisoners would be strictly controlled from that point and virtually forbidden about an hour (if not longer in this case cos of stuff happening on the outside) before an execution was due to occur. The landing of E wing where the condemned cell and gallows were would have at least one officer posted at the outer end monitoring access from the opposite side and another closer to the door of the condemned cell who may or may not have opened the door for the executioner, sometimes it was the PO escorting the governor. Official witnesses would usually accompany the governor and a PO escort from his office with the executioner and his assistant about a minute or so before 9am and take their place in the gallows chamber, which had separate access from the condemned cell, while the executioners waited outside the door to the condemned cell itself awaiting a signal from the governor who would simultaneously make his way in to the gallows room. Those are the only people that would have been allowed anywhere near that area, especially in those few minutes. None of these witnesses, so that’s the governor, the executioner, his assistant, the under-sheriff, the prison doctor, the accompanying prison officers as well as the additional officers posted to E wing for those few minutes has ever so much as hinted at any disturbance beforehand. The two POs and chaplain in the room with Bentley would likely have been aware of any commotion outside but also have never hinted as much. If such a disturbance had occurred it would very likely have been recorded officially in some way even if obscurely by the offender being reprimanded for attacking a state official! Whilst I haven’t seen this guys prison record for the period in question I suspect this incident would be impossible to find🤔
Tells more tales then enid blyton Hangings in the uk at that time were done at 8.00am...Pierrepoint wouldve arrived a few hours earlier and wouldnt have gone nowhere near the prison population.
He was an old school gangster my dad knew him when he lived in London. He said he was a good guy but he told a lot of stories,a bit like fishermen's tales don't believe all he said in other words
Lovely story but the only witnesses to Franks version of events would have been a long time dead whilst he was spinning his yarn. He was known as a prolific liar throughout his life so I don’t believe him at all. RIP Derek Bentley, it was truly despicable what they done to you.
