Can’t believe I’ve been watching you since I was 15. Now at 26 I hear of the helix and it bring back fond memories. Glad to see your love for two wheels never truly escaped you!
Wow, thanks for the tour of the ADV160. I enjoyed it and picked up some useful knowledge. I just got my ADV160, new, in mid January. As of yesterday, I put 420 miles on her. Not a lot, but I am in the Northeast too (PA), and Winter is still a thing here. This is my first ever motorcycle, and I am 72. I figured a scooter would be a good fit for me. I chose Honda basically for all the reasons you stated. I paid $5700 out the door, but I had tax to pay. Delivery was free, or so they say. I take my skills test in 2 weeks, and it has me worried. Never rode a manual bike, U turns are still difficult even with a lot of practice, etc. But it's an MSF class, and I know they are really good. I just got everything I'll need for the first oil change at 600 miles - even that will be a new experience for me. Gonna replace the stock drain plug with the magnetic one by Gold Plug. The only other mod I am considering at this point is a brake light flasher. The wiring of the flasher doesn't really worry me, it's getting access to the brake light wiring harness that could be a deal breaker. The bike is only 2 months old, and I don't want to do a grand disassembly just yet. Anyway, thank you for sharing your knowledge, and I'll be checking back for updates.
Great video! I also used to have a Helix, and just got my ADV 160 about a week ago 😁. Looking forward to more of your content on these new to the USA scoots!
Well done Thank You 👍Detailed breakdown of the bike which I have on my list to buy when I get to the Philippines this July. Looking forward to watching more videos as you breaking the in bike.
Appreciate the long form review. US reviews are hard to find and most of them are riding reviews which don’t tell me much. I was curious about the screen and the settings etc which you went over in detail. Thank you.
Great review, I’ve been riding a 2022 Adv 150 for two years, wish someone did a review like this. My bike starts every time, a real blast, I can ride up to 60 mph for extended periods of time, no complaints from the bike. Thank you for the info!
I was kinda surprised to see a new scooter in the works. But I'm pretty happy for more videos on them. I had enjoyed the Helix videos back when, enough that I wanted one then and still want one now.
I called my local dealer and they wanted $6300 out the door! Of course I said no way. 3 weeks later they posted online a trade in with 850 miles for $3999. I payed $4485 otd and I feel good about that price
I purchased this same bike about a year ago. I love it so far and have racked up 4000+ miles. Thank you for showing me more about this bike than my dealer. I paid about the same.
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Great Job on the review thank you. Do you have any updates on the ADV. seriously thinking about buying. Thank you again, very informative , well done
It's an absolute blast to ride, as far as scooters go - the water pump on mine is defective and began leaking almost immediately, so I have it scheduled to be replaced under warranty - other than that, awesome machine!
Best review I found. I am buying mine next week here in Bangkok. 105,000 Baht, $2,866 usd. Includes rego.I had the adv150 in 2021. There seems to be a few differences between the U.S. model than here. Tool kit comes with it. A couple of other things, but will watch again after I get mine. They have 4 colours here, Black, Blue and like a Pearl grey and Red. It looks to me like your red is different. I dont like the red here, seems darker. Anyway, very thorough review. Thanks
What's the dividing line between a motorscooter and a motorcycle? I thought a motorscooter always had a flat floorboard, but this one doesn't. I guess you could call it a crossover!
Good question; a scooter will have a few key differences from a motorcycle, and they are: 1) Engine, transmission, and swingarm will be built as one complete assembly with the rear wheel bolted directly to the final drive shaft; the entire engine then becomes unsprung weight, which is a bit of a shortfall, but the compromise is a VERY low center of gravity. 2) Automatic transmission (typically - as some scooters are fitted with a manual transmission, such as Vespas and Lambrettas, but for the most part they will be equipped with a belt driven CVT). 3) Step-thru chassis - OR - "Underbone" style frame. Fuel tanks are always placed under the floor, or under the seat (some are behind the seat as well), but NEVER mounted to a top-tube like a motorcycle. 4) Front and rear hand brakes (with the exception of older machines, such as 1980s Honda Helixes and Elites). These are just general characteristics, but the one common feature on ALL scooters is the integrated driveline packaging. As far as insurance, and state regs - it's all based on engine size and theoretical top speed. In NH, 50cc and above with a top speed exceeding 25 mph? It's a motorcycle. 150cc or above? Freeway legal. 49cc and below? They call that a "motor driven cycle:" or "MOPED."
As far as scratches underneath the bike, you might be able to get away with ordering some thick vinyl decal sheet that you can cut to fit and place underneath. Better with some high-vis reflective down the sides above it for instance in case you lay the bike down in the evening/night so people can see the reflection of your bike on the ground. ECU boot could have better protection from the elements, yeah. but if you're paranoid about it, you can go to town with hot-glue on the connector body itself where the cables go in, and around it... will make it harder to get it apart in the future, but it'll help keep it better protected from moisture ingress. Ideally silicone would be better as hot glue will inevitably melt in too hot of heat, but once again, an order of magnitude higher in removal later, and that's not even taking account of any warranty issues that might arise. as far as the joystick, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a third party adhesive-edge condom boot for it in the future.
I have 18,000 miles on my 2022 adv 150. It's an awesome lil machine no matter where you want to go! I commute on it and have ridden it half way across the country and back with 0 issues. Fuel mileage is between 84-105mpg depending on how fast you're going and hills and I am 6'3 210lbs. I might sell mine to a buddy of mine and pick up a new 24, always more fun riding small bikes with a group of friends
Awesome review! I'm looking at upgrading from a 125 mio soul to this for when I'm in the Philippines. I'm about 260 pounds then my girl on the back our 125 struggles a bit . But we did a 16 hour round trip with it and did awesome. So this be big upgrade for us! Got any updates on it driving it around and mod you done to it?
I just thought you should know that you have a fan just under all that insallation. Even without the fan, you are inhaling very fine sharp edged very fine insallation dust. Turn on the fan and it is much worse. You might want to put up some dry wall and cover it all. regarding your video, wow, what an excellent video! very comprehesive and helpful. I wish more peeps did yt vids like you, thanks!
…The insulation between my floor joists? Yeah, no shit - I PUT IT THERE!! It is not supposed to be covered, as it is a basement ceiling - needs to breathe, and it needs to remain accessible.
after my Goldwing got hit, it's taking me 6-1/2 years now, that I'm looking at getting another bike. (long recovery) now, I'm looking at the BMW GS 850 as my last bike ( 61) years young. You, no when you can see, the writing on the wall. Well.................
I never thought I would buy a scooter but I saw these and decided I liked it so at 53 I bought one last week. I can't ride it yet because I had knee surgery a couple of months ago and I am still recovering but I'm hoping it will be a little Cadillac
I'm temporarily living in the Philippines doing volunteer work at hospitals. I have this unit. It performs excellent on the road and off. Knobby tires are also available in the Philippines.
Concerning tool kit, I don't leave the house without air compressor and tire plug kit. I have yet to use a tool kit but used tire plug over dozen time, usually the rear tire catches a nail.
awesome video. One question, I’m debating between a Grom and a Adv 160 for commuting and backroad adventures. Do you know how reliable CVTs are? Are they heavier and more complex than manual?
You're looking at two completely different bikes; the GROM is more of a compact trail bike, not large enough or comfortable enough for long trips - the GROM is also unique in that it features the same 125CC engine as the Super Cub/Trail 125, but with a fully manual transmission (the SuperCub and Trail have a semi-automatic manual). The ADV is more of a "touring scooter," designed for longer trips - more comfortable, less stressed drivetrain, plenty of onboard storage, larger fuel tank, and some (VERY LIGHT) off-road capabilities. As for the CVT; Scooter CVTs should never be confused with automotive CVTs; Honda perfected their V-Matic CVTs in the 1980s, and they haven't changed much since. These use a very basic centrifugal dry-clutch for engagement, and a centrifugally-controlled drive pulley linked to a spring-loaded driven pulley via a (usually Bando or Gates) rubber drive belt; these transmissions DO require routine maintenance about every 14,000 miles - replace the belt, belt case air filter, drive pulley roller weights and seals, and that's about it - it's a simple procedure and doesn't cost much. Eventually, the driven pulley and clutch will require a rebuild (probably around 50,000 miles or so) but the beauty part is, these are all wearable items designed to be replaced or rebuilt easily, with minimal time and basic tools - AND no adjustments needed in the interim. On a GROM/CUB/TRAIL you'll be cracking the engine case open to replace clutch parts, in addition to constantly adjusting and lubing the chain - I'll take the CVT, thank you.
@@bbishoppcm Thanks for the helpful reply! I’ve driven old 110c motorcycles and scooters in asia but have never owned one or driven one in the usa. I’m moving back to the states, and being 5’6, 120lbs - I’m looking for something for non-highway commuting to the grocery store / beach / work and for little backroad journeys for fun. Not into stunts , highways or speed - so just a newbie trying to figure out what to get in a 5k budget for the states. I like light bikes under 300lbs and between 100-200cc, so the Honda Grom and Honda Adv 160 both look interesting to me in different ways. The Grom I get the control and simplicity of manual, ergonomics of a motorcycle, but have to attach small panniers and wear a backpack for storage. The 160 I get a more casual bike with CVT, which I was skeptical about till reading your reply, but obviously the big benefit of elegant, built in storage and modern tech. The size and control of the Grom is appealing (on paper), but I’m an outlier who likes lighter, smaller and more nimble bikes. Thanks for the info, I’m leaning towards the ADV now..
@@bbishoppcm I don’t really get the supercub and surprised you considered it. The seat is higher (30.7”) than the Grom (I’m 5’6”, 120lbs with about a 30” inseam), the gas tank is less than a gallon, it can only carry one person, luggage mods seem much more limited, the weight is slightly more than a grom, and it has a 4 spd clutchless transmission (which I don’t get the appeal of) instead a 5 spd full transmission on the Grom. The Grom also goes to a top speed of up to 70mph after the 2022 5spd upgrade, giving it a lot more versatility in my eyes. Btw, I have another question about CVTs. How does it handle going up and down hills in the mountains? I imagine the brakes will be destroyed without the ability to use the engine to control speed.
For the one hundredth time......Please reupload your helix series.... I own an 05. Best scooter ever... So glad you're getting back in the saddle.... you will be fine.
@@bbishoppcm Ahhh... that's a shame, you had some real gold in them there videos. And you were once active on ADVRIDER. Hope to see you talk about this in battle scooters soon.. Great bike, and I am super jealous. I have been looking for a silverwing, but found a goldwing that I got 6 mos ago. I would trade it for a silverwing for sure.
A little over 3000, like 3056 depending on the USD to Philippines Peso. Not throwing that out to say look at me, but just to show how much more profit Honda makes in the USA market. One has to wonder what the cost to the dealer is because Honda still has to be making a profit here in the PH or else they would not sell them. My history is that I had a new 150 in 2020 or 2021 before I retired and left the US. Loved the ADV 150, and also the 160 really enjoy having both disc brakes on the Asian model.
Honda does not hate or love the US, we don't get the pcx or the adv 160 in Europe. We have the 350 and the 750.. Also we don't have the Trail 125, but have all the rest of the that platform. I have great interest in the 160, the 350 is too heavy for my teste and my riding style/places.
I'm surprised the make the scooters with such low miles for oil changes, when their bigger bikes do like 8000+ miles. Those little metal sleeves it came with text says something about license plate mounting sleeves... some type of spacer for mounting the plate
It takes some understanding of just how much stress a small displacement engine has on oil - high RPMs, small sump size, no filter. The only way to increase the oil lifespan is to increase the oil capacity - which would require either an external oil reservoir or larger block/larger sump AND add a filter, this increases cost, weight, and complexity. Oil is cheap - just change it every 2,000 miles and the engine will reward you with longer life, less wear, less oil consumption.
If changing oil every few thousand miles is too stressful, you can always buy one of those Chinese electric bikes - but those have a propensity to spontaneously set apartment buildings on fire due to cheap lithium batteries.
@@bbishoppcm I'm sure they could figure something out, I'm not a mechanic... but electric doesn't have the range. If I had to change my bikes oil every 2000, that's 6 or 7 oil changes a year at least because I love to ride. I had a PCX 150 for 3 years (my first bike, I loved it) and had the Honda dealer do all maintenance, but knowing nothing I just did how the manual listed at every 4000 miles. One thing I loved when I got my Rebel 1100, its every 8000 miles... but really been wanting to get another scooter again after not having a PCX 150 a couple years now. If I get a big collection going then I can just get low enough miles on each to do yearly maintenance 🙂
Well, I have a background in engine repair and have a good understanding of how they work - the only way to improve oil life is through a larger volume of oil, and/or friction reduction - these engines already use ball bearings to support the crank, and employ a low-friction coating on the pistons. Bigger bikes have larger engines with lower engine speed, and many have external oil tanks.
Id definitely use a quality high amp charging cord that would support Qc.3.0 charging, not those cheap gas stations 5$ cords are crap and really limits you charging capacity even if its not a QC 3.0 output but I think adv 160 outlet is QC 3 output!?
Oh I thought u said you got at gas station, must been another channel, but my comment was intended to help the community, I would never criticize anyone choice of anything at all, I simply want folks to know different cords carry different amps and electric current, I can tell you know technology, I wasn't making that comment relative to you or any one person, only folks who might not know better, I truly do try to help folks and I apologize if it seemed inconsiderate to you personally, certainly wasn't my intention.
Great review. I just bought a red ADV 160 for when I retire to Philippines next month. They are $3,000 USD there. They are perfect for the trash roads in the primitive province area my house in Bohol is at. I'm going to have the red on mine clear coated to make it easier to wash, and so it won't fade in the sun. Here's another English ADV 160 review that is way different than yours. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-O4NgaDr8rpY.html Oh, and the 2024 ADV in Philippines raised the under seat storage from 28 liters to 30 liters.
I hate how the turn signals are sticking out and not incorporated into the housing like the PCX. The ADV is also slower, being it's heavier but has the same exact motor as the PCX. There's really no justifiable reason to choose an ADV over a PCX, in my opinion. I own a 2022 PCX, upgraded with aftermarket exhaust system and shocks , pushing 75mph constantly.
Yeah, you really shouldn’t push a new engine like that - it will never reach its top speed until it’s actually broken in. I don’t plan on pushing mine until it’s got a few hundred miles on it. Let the rings seat properly as the top-end loosens up.
