I own a Revolt X at 70lbs 30” draw. It is the smoothest draw I have ever felt on any bow. I have zero hand shock or vibration. I think something has to be wrong with the bow you have. I shot every flagship bow this year and felt like the bowtech blew everyone else away in regards to smoothness. Only bow with less vibration was probably the VXR. This was my first bowtech so I’m not a fanboy by any means.
@@brandonmcdonald6121 I have mine set to comfort at 70lb 30". I haven't even tried the performance setting so I can't comment on that. I also own an Evoke 31 and I like the X draw much more. I think you got a lemon man... The only thing I am not too keen on about the bow is it doesn't hit IBO. I think they are about 10fps slow. Im not a speed first guy, but I do like bows to hit advertised speeds or at least be kinda close.
They are all great bows. That bow is mechanically fucked. I’ve shot a lot of bows, never saw one with a draw cycle like that. Ever. 30 years of archery, i have 7 bows under 5 years old, and have been through dozens over the years. He needs to bring that bow to the shop to be fixed.
Credit to Brandon for the respectful and non-defensive responses he's made in this comment section. I always appreciate humility and self deprecation. Subscribed.
I remember watching this a year ago, totally had a. Lot of preconceived notions about bowtech when I went to look at new bows this year. Only reason I’m watching again is because after shooting almost every flagship bow from the last two years I settled on revolt x. So I had to come back and see why I was supposed to hate it haha. I guess different strokes for different folks. I’ve never had a bowtech but really enjoying this bow.
So... watched the review again, appreciate the honesty. Like I said earlier I already ordered my Revolt based on a demo I did with the Revolt, RX4, VXR and the KURE. They all had their plus and minuses. I went and shot the Revolt’s again to see if I had buyers remorse. Just cant’t figure out why you dislike those bows so much. I guess because I chose to live with the comfort setting maybe I might be settling but it just feels great. Not getting hand shock and draw cycle is the smoothest I’ve ever had. You do have to push it forward but that’s the case with any high let off bow... judging the cam integrity by size also is a week judgement. I shoot with guys who still use bows from the 80’s with cams the size of oreo’s and they are still holding up. Can’t help but feel you really didn’t want to like this bow from jump street but... still appreciate the review.
I talked to the shop owner and he really feels like it's my long draw length. I'm going to put it on 29" draw and switch back to comfort. I will say on comfort, the majority of the draw literally seems easier than the rest and super comfortable. I'm not giving up yet. I want to figure out why some people love it and I don't.
I had a Revolt X and it arrived on 27” in “Comfort”. I shot it a couple days then switched it to “Performance” at 28”. It was pretty much a faultless draw in Comfort, and felt dramatically heavier in Performance. I went back to Comfort immediately, within two or three shots. If you didn’t move the draw stops to match the draw length, you could have created a monster valley. With the draw stop set exactly to the right length, the Performance side has very little valley at all and the letoff comes up to about 80%. I didn’t find Performance to be worth it. I sold mine, not because it wasn’t accurate but because the weight of the bow bothered my left shoulder. It was 5.5 lbs with sight, rest, and a 15” Easton Contour stabilizer with only a couple ounces on it. It was very smooth and vibration-free. I’m going to be trying a Carbon Zion next since they’ve upgraded the cams to the smooth/fast ones from the Revolt. Fingers crossed that with the speed turned down both vibration and accuracy will be excellent with some GT Pro 400s I have.
Don't feel bad about being honest. If it doesn't work for ya, it doesn't work. Why I tell all my newbie buds that they should go shoot 5-6 brands and go from there! Good stuff as always.
Just a honest review of the video: from the start it sounds like you didn’t have a clue what you were doing as far as making adjustments with the mistakes you admitted to, and possibly damaging the bow. Shots hitting consistently low left leads one to think your tuning is off given the mistakes made previously. Also from the video it’s pretty apparent you pull your shots on your follow through. So seems the issue is as you said, you and not the bow. But it was refreshing to see someone try to give a review that wasn’t pushing sales
Thanks for the feedback. I totally get it. I'm not getting that kick out of any of the other bows. They were also easier to mess with and adjust, That's why I showed it. It's embarrassing... I could have easily left it out, but when all the videos come out it'll be more obvious that the Bowtech performed different for me than the rest.
Brandon Mcdonald that’s fine. This issue is bc of the “miss fire” with the improper set up you have no way of accurately assessing it due to possible damage that it incurred compared to the other bows. I do believe you even stated that, so credit to you for being honest there. Everyone has a preference and a fit, and a disagreement on that is fine. Would just prefer they all have their fair shake.
I own this bow, when i was going through the paces with it i shot next to a way over priced hoyt carbon rx-4 ultra and a matthews vxr, the bowtech was much smoother then both and i had no vibration unstabilized. Im no John dudley but this bow did its job.
The only draw I do in the video is showing the bow when I had missed the draw module placement. I was showing how hard it was to draw. So, you're correct, if I always had to draw that way, it would be terrible. I may not have made that clear in the video. Thanks for watching.
Did you try the comfort setting? While I would say I preferred the VXR and RX4 over the Revolt X, the comfort setting on the Revolt X is much, much better than the performance. The performance setting only gives you an extra 7 FPS, but makes the draw cycle poor.
To each their own and it’s actually nice to hear more criticisms and honesty of these flagship bows. I watched dozens of videos on bow reviews and they were always “They are all great, just personal preference.” That being said and I actually ended up choosing the Revolt X. I went from a Diamond SB-1 and obviously going from a beginner to a flagship was night and day better. You should contact Bowtech and have them look at it. I had issues but none that you spoke of. I went through two sets of rollers on the flex arm before them sending a whole new arm. 500+ arrows later and it’s good now, but something they may want to look into. Draw in comfort mode is so smooth and for cable stops has a firm wall. Liking the videos and it would be nice for more people that are able to, do similar videos that give better reviews on the bows.
I've shot Hoyt nearly my hole life I've had a bear and PSE but I couldn't believe how good the new Bow tech is, and now I will be shooting Bowtechs , it's going to take a amazing bow to be better.
I’ve shot both revolt and revolt x and feels nothing like what your showing, you might check on sending it back, you could of gotten a faulty one. Also both bows had no hand shock.
I'm going to take it back to the shop and have them take a look. I literally tore it down today, cut the loop off etc. If I can get it better I'll post an update for sure. Weird part is, it's shooting bullets... Just feels like crap.
Omg I absolutely laughed my ass off @ "there's a decent chance I just shot a hole in the four runner". Love your reviews man they're seriously the best.
I did all of that stuff from the first part but then I got the bow dialed in the way it should be while using the manual, and I still didn't like it as much as the others... I'm not going to hold my willingness to cut corners against the company. I just thought the adjustments on other bows were better.
@@brandonmcdonald6121 understood & i appreciate you taking the time to reply . It just seems kinda reckless to run a company into the ground because your doing things wrong obviously we no longer live by these standards as humanbeings but just a few short years ago if you printed something like that in a newspaper you could be sued & at the very least have to print a redaction . But i suppose your videos are strictly for entertainment not educational.
I've actually gone back through Dudley's school of nock videos this year. It's been super helpful. I'm waiting until the shop opens back up and I'll go in to see if anythings out of whack. I'm not having this problem with any of the other bows...
i am a fellow bowtech shooter and have had 3 over the past 8yrs. i LOVE the Realm and SR6! i switch between them during hunting season and have them setup for different scenarios, but i digress lol. i shot the new bowtechs and agree, good bows but not what they had the last couples yrs with the reign or sr6. not sure why your having so much problems with feel, but contact bowtech and im sure they can walk u thru it, also not a bad idea to go back to basics and work on form/timing. great vid though and love your humor!
Hey B Mac.. did you ever get this bow figured out?.. This is one of the bows on my shirt list to consider buying, may go with the Realm SS instead?.. wonder if you had the cams out of center?.. they could be even, but out of center. Make sense?.. they need to be centered together between the limbs. This could resolve that kick you're getting. Did you give up on it, or take it to a shop?.. what ever happened?.. I've heard nothing but good about this bow from others. Thanks for the honest review.
All the wrong gear for hunting! Started out with a canon 80d with a sigma 1.8 18-35 and a Tamron 18-400. Now I'm on a canon EOS R with a couple of the RF mount L lenses. Not what I'd recommend to most people but I want to do other things with my gear too. Thanks for the compliment!
I'm shooting the bowtech Realmx. As the draw drops into the valley it takes a conscious effort to slow the draw so that I do not hit the back wall with so much force that it causes a violent vibration into my grip. Thoughts? The power disc on the bow is set to comfort
What are your thoughts on arrow fletchings. I am currently running 3 Blazers 2 inch long. I am thinking about maybe going to a 4 fletch set up or add some offset or both. Or maybe switch from blazer to max hunters. Do you have any recommendations. The broadheads I use are flying arrow toxics 125 grain fixed broadhead. They are 1 inch in diameter from either side of the cutting surfaces.
I think you have to test your setup out with multiple options. First, get your bow set the way you like it with field tips. Then you have to guess... I assume you don't want to buy 50 different sets of vanes and 100 arrows (2 sets for each) I stand on the shoulders of the type A archers that have come before me. This season I tested a few setups based on other recommendations. Blazers on a helical, three and 4 Fletch Aae Max on a helical, three and 4 Fletch. I went with a three Fletch aae Max because I decided to hunt with VAP micro diameter arrows and I couldn't get 4 on them easily. As far as head goes, I'm a fan of mechanicals... The ever present battle. More forgiving in flight. I know if I hit the vitals with a fixed or mechanical, the animal is going down so I'd rather have something more forgiving if I have a wierd shot angle and give any torque to the bow. I'll do a video on this. Just haven't wanted to Wade into those waters yet. I like the Sevr heads right now because you can use all of them to practice with and not ruin them. The blades screw shut. Makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.
@@brandonmcdonald6121 thanks. I have been looking into what people like about each and what may be better so far. Cant do to much yet until I get my news string in for my Bowtech Carbon Icon in terms of getting everything dialed I'm since things will be put out of whack once I get that on for a bit. The flecthimg arrangements was just something my local shop was suggesting and same with the other veins. Dont have a fletchkng jig yet to play around with that stuff yet but will probably be looking into getting one pretty soon too.
Just picked up a revolt x. Funny because I new nothing about bowtech, until I watched this video when it first dropped. I been looking at bows all summer and finally decided on the bowtech. At first, I didn't think I would consider the bowtech because of your review. I tested the revolt x, vxr, pse nxt 33, and the elite Kure at my local bowshop. I put about 50 arrows through them, and loved them all except the elite. I finally settled on the revolt x because it felt the most natural for how I shoot. I love the comfort setting for the all-around feel of the bow. Big fan, love the content and looking forward for more bow reviews in the future. Good luck, be safe, and happy hunting.
Great comment and exactly what I was hoping people would do. Go shoot for themselves and decide, but take their time, just like you did. Glad you found your bow!
Iv'e watched a lot of archery channels for bow reviews, arrow reviews, clothing reviews and everything else. I just came across your channel looking for my next bow and ended up watching about 6 of your videos. Probably one of the best archery channels iv'e came across. In regards to the bow, you pretty much answered all of my major questions with the new technology BowTech put into it. Hope the 4Runner is okay.
First, I dig your videos. They're well done and polished. Second. Everyone is different, IMO Bowtech makes great bows, if a man or a woman cant seem to get settled in, than it's not a bow for you plain and simple. With that being said. I have a RealmX and LOVE it. I also have a Vertix and love it. Its different strokes for different folks. Good Video
Ain't nothing wrong with videos of this subject. I like every bow just about. If a bow doesnt do what I need it to, then it's on to the next. Archery is a lifestyle, not a brand (for the haters)
Brandon I’ve been a bowtech guy for 10 years, went in to by a revolt x, because of the fine tuning.. had same problems you did, I ended up trying pse, Hoyt, walked out with the Mathews vxr 31.5 now that bow is impressive! Anyway just thought I’d let you know. Great videos..
Last 3 bows have been Elites. So the feeling of having to push it forward I get. I just ordered my new Revolt... I absolutely love the way it felt... with that said I only plan to shoot it at 60lb. In comfort setting so I completely get why the review went the way it did. Great review appreciate the honesty and look forward to more videos.
I own a RevoltX. I love it for the most part and don’t have the kicking issue you do, but I absolutely agree on the Clutch Grip insert. It’s cheap feeling plastic and I actually had them send me another one because I couldn’t believe a grip insert would wiggle around like that on a flagship bow. The replacement was slightly better but still not solid, so I wrapped it with tennis wrap and now I’m fine with it, but they definitely need to upgrade that part. In terms of the kicking problem - curious where you have the cams on the axels and what’s your center shot? My cams are further to the right and it looks off visually but the string is centered. Also, the manual is wrong about resetting the cams to factory spec - instead of 1 turn it should be 2 turns. I confirmed this with Bowtech.
What's your draw length? Just curious as the shop was saying that's a big factor in why it feels so bad to me. I'm sure there's some pretty sweet after market grips that can be bought for it. I actually really like the overall feel of the grip, just not the plastic part ... Last night I stripped the bow, took the cams all the way to the left then all the way to the right then back to center. I'm starting over with it. I'm going to set the draw length to 28" and see if it shoots any better. I really want to figure out the kick. I understand why the draw cycle feels bad at the longer DL
I’m at 28.5” for draw length. Maybe that’s the difference. Hope you can figure it out! Agreed on the grip - the shape is great but when you’re handling the bow or carrying it it’s not a good feeling to have that insert moving around slightly.
Before I start to judge them I get them shooting bullets with a bare shaft. Even the bowtech shoots straight. The hoyt got in last so it'll be last. So far, I like it! Biggest issue so far is how much more expensive it is.
Bradon, there are so many things with your review and description of this bow I do not know where to start. You either have something really really wrong or out of whack. I almost get the feeling that you went into this "review" with the intent not to like this bow. I would not be surprised of one of the other bows you review get a glowing review and maybe we find out they are now supporting the channel. It's hard to take you seriously when the pin indicator goes into the cam in a position that the actual draw length is printed on that cam confuses you but changing the draw length on a Prime is just so easy? Not buying it
The Arrow Guru he clearly is intentionally trying to disparage Bowtech as every other review has it being one of the best draw cycles of any bow. I have a RevoltX and I bought a RX4 and shoot the rest of the new bows. Bowtech made good bows this year. I would say the VXR is the best bow this year and the RevoltX is right there behind it. Or he is messing with the bow taking it apart and trying to adjust it and he himself has no idea what he’s doing. He did a video about why he won’t shoot pse however the entire video is about a particular bow shop. He’s doing stuff for attention nothing more.
Todd Lymburner I was between the VXR and bowtech. The main reason is I went bowtech to be able to work on my bow myself without bowpress. Do the Matthews spacers have the adjustability with the spacers as the bowtech? Or is the bowtech able to be adjusted more precisely than the Matthews for specific shooters? Real question
I have the REVOLT. And it's a great bow. Hamskea rest. Trophy ridge REACT h 5 sight. Trophy ridge hitman front stabilizer and a Apex side mount Trophy ridge hitman rear stabilizer.
I have the Bowtech Solution and I have mixed feelings about it myself. Like I wish I never got it. It is very fast,smooth. The main thing I hate more than anything is the grip. It is to narrow (thin) for me. I like the fat grip like I had on my Matthews Outback. I wish I could find some one to machine me a fat wooden grip for the Bowtech. Really don’t want to use bat wrap but I guess I’m going to try it. I like how you kept saying it was you and not blaming Bowtech,everyone has their own preference. Good video
The intro was hilarious! LMFAO!!!! Regarding the safety pin on the Stan Perfex heavy long neck don't lose it. I lost mine with a week. Apparently you can use wax to hold it in the release better. I haven't like the Bowtech handles ever. I agree it doesn't have the feel of a premium bow.
Nice video really fun to watch. It is good when someone makes a video where a product is not pushed. I had similar experience with my first bow ever Bear Cruzer G2. I had severe hand shock.After adjusting the draw weight and adding 3 ounce of lead weight in to the riser now my bow is completely smooth and the shock is gone. Regarding the draw cycle I can see how you are suffering when you are pulling the 70 pounds on performance. I was in the same spot now I drop the weight to 56 pounds and man I love shooting the bow. The point I am making is when I was shooting at 70 pound ( actually more like 68) I was able to do it but I didn't enjoy it. I bought my bow for fun and enjoyment not to punish or injure myself. I am not sure why people believe they need to have the bow set at 70 pounds . If the purpose is hunting precision is way more important then 20 % more penetration . Killing an animal only takes a small cut in the right place not sticking a deer on a stick .
Thanks for the review! I ended up going with the bowtech over the vxr in the end. For my 28 in draw it was a very smooth draw in even performance ( 2” make a huge difference) but in the end it came down to bow fit for me personally.
I own the Realm SR6 #70 @ 29" in comfort mode. It's basically the same bow, minus a different cam and cam lock. I've never shot such an amazing bow in my life. In all honesty, I think something is wrong with the bow... Let us know if you follow up with any issues..
Will do. I'm totally open to that being the case, or it just being me! I haven't given up. I really like the draw in comfort until the last 2 inches. I'm going to drop it to 28 or 29 and see how it feels. I'll let everyone know
@@brandonmcdonald6121 yeah, definitely keep us posted. I'd be interested to know the issue. Even my Destroyer 350 didn't have a snap at the last few inches, and that bow wanted to always just take off! I usually don't mess with cams myself.. I bring it to my tech guy. Too much going on these days
Very under appreciated and underrated content. The production, content, etc all great. I do think the bow is an anomaly though. The revolt x is the realm x with the new deadlock cam system in every way. Watch archery talks review of the realm x
Awesome video! 👍 Thanks for posting it. I was curious how each bow compared to the Traverse that you shot last year. My local shop has one left from last year since they are 9 weeks out on the VXR 31.5, I thought about picking it up and going to the Total Archery Challenge with it instead of my using my Triax.
Aaron Wilder I don’t think they do compare. The closest I’ll bet will be the Prime. I ordered a Traverse in January after looking at these same bows. I’m curious what he thinks as well ‘cause I think the Traverse still tops em.
Hey Dre Sted, I had a chance to shoot the Traverse and I thought there was just a slight amount of vibration, but I was able to shoot it really well (like Xs) right from the first shot and the next 10 to follow up shots. I was only at 20 meters. I thought it was aggressive, but much more comfortable to shoot then my Triax. I am curious about how the VXR really compares to the Traverse at Longer shoots. I have shot my Triax out to 76 meters accurately. It just wasn't as comfortable to shoot (I have a 30 inch draw) as the Traverse.
Aaron Wilder My traverse is really quiet and vibe free. The one you shot may have been out of synch in the cams. Despite the ultra long riser the VXR still felt like a short bow and for me personally wasn’t as nice to shoot.
I'm going to shoot the winning bow against the traverse to see how it does. For me, Id rather have the stability and forgiveness that the longer bow gives me. I'm a 30+ draw though so the triax never felt good for me.
Am I the only one who noticed his thumb come around to the button before “letting up” ????? Yeah so how it works is if you pull the trigger the bow goes off…..🧐 also if unsure of how to make adjustments, Mabe consult the manual or a pro shop…….
The biggest problem is that your draw length is long and those bowtech cams don't feel near as good in the longest draw setting. If you were a 29" or shorter draw length, the cam would feel a lot better. Try a reckoning 35 or 38 and see if you like the way those feel. But as far as the revolt x, the cam will dump hard toward the end with your long draw length.
I called the shop today and they said the same thing. I'm actually going to shorten to 28 just to see how it feels. Nice thing about the bowtech, it's super quick to adjust.
That is actually a common problem with most manufacturers. They try to cover too much of a draw length range with their cams and the long and short settings are always harder to tune and the draw feels worse. I try to avoid a bow where I will have to adjust the cam in the longest position. I have worked on some Hoyts that would do the same thing. Hoyt usually have 3 sizes of base cams so it makes it easier to avoid setting the draw in the longest settings. The closer to the middle of the cam a person can set the draw length, the better it will feel and it will tune easier. Sometimes it can be a bear to tune in the longest/shortest positions. I will probably buy a reckoning 38 sometime this year. I have a 30" draw so I will okay with the bow. You may have to step up to a longer ATA bow regardless of brand. At you draw length, you will get good speed. I am a 30" draw myself so I try to avoid those short bows where I will be at the longest draw length setting. Good luck.
@@halfstep67 I just started setting up the hoyt tonight and noticed that the draw range on this one was from 29 or 30 (can't remember exactly) up to 32. This makes a lot of sense to me. Too much adjustability on one cam and the very short, and very long dl guys are getting the shaft... I get it from a bow shops perspective though. No press needed and you can change stuff out QUICK.
A lot of shops don't really tune a bow anyways, they just set it up and the customer doesn't really know. I am a 30" draw so I want a bow that will go to 31" or longer. If it only goes to 30", I won't bother with it. I am also a lefty and usually have to order a bow so I want to make sure it will tune before I buy one. The vast majority of archers are in the 27" to 29" range. Very few archers are actually 30" or more. But bows are speed rated at the 30" and 70 pounds. in the past, some manufacturers would make the 30" setting hotter in relationship to the other settings. This gave the impression that the bow was faster than what it really was in the other settings. Guys would set it at 29" thinking they would only loose 10fps but would loose closer to 20 fps. Bows have gotten pretty short and having a 30"+ draw length can reduce one's choices by a 1/3 or more. Always buy with at least an inch of draw length to spare on the long or short side. The good thing about having a longer draw is that the speed will be there. The drop away rest and expandable broadhead has become standard equipment these days. Mainly out of necessity. A lot of today's bows have short ATA and low BH with big aggressive high let off cams and the shootability has surpassed the average archer's abilities. Archers today need to have better form and shot execution to get the bow to tune and shoot well. The draw length and poundage needs to be adjusted properly to give the archer as much forgiveness as possible.
The nitty gritties! Love the honesty broda. Good vid, can't wait to see the prime (I have a CT9), but still wanting to know why you didn't pick up a PSE. I know you said it'd be in one of your videos. Sorry, I'm impatient. lol 🤙🏼
I don’t shoot pse, the bowtech feels box brand, I’m going to buy 5 bows but throw out the most expensive because it’s too expensive, them I’m going to be a homer and pick a short axel to axel bow just because. Unbiased, I think not.
I think it's your bow, your review basically says the complete opposite of every other review. Other reviews: "no hand shock" "high quality bow" "very little difference in feel between performance and comfort" "smooth draw" "very nice draw cycle" (
I'm open to that too. I'm going to adjust the draw length down a couple of inches and see how that feels. A lot of the guys I've seen are shooting at 29". That extra 2" might make a difference.
Clary, I was shooting my DL to start. I'm asking guys that like their bowtechs what DL they are. Consistently, they're shorter. That's why I'm going to lower it and see if it draws better.
Brandon Mcdonald dl should not make a difference. Seriously, you should bring that bow to the shop. There is something wrong with it. I can tell theres a problem just by the way you’re drawing it. Either something is seriously out of time, or theres a cam problem. Something serious.The bowtech isnt smooth, but its still a good draw. 30 years of archery and ive never seen any bow draw like that.
Hi Brandon! Just a quick hello and to say that I am really enjoying your videos. So keep them coming. I am not interested in a Bowtech yet I would be interested in what the pro shop said about that particular bow. I am shooting an Hoyt Nitrum 34 right now from a few years ago. I am happy with it. Perhaps a Matthews VXR or Traverse sometime. Take care. And I subscribed. Rick
Good review. I own a 70 lb revolt x and shoot it in the comfort setting at 65 lbs. I installed a custom Americas Best bowstring and an 8" bee stinger w/o using the weights. I'm shooting a 30" gold tip hunter xt, with a 100 gr insert and 100 gr field point. For me it is very smooth on the draw, firm back wall and I feel I could almost hold it back for an hour. It is very accurate. I'm not getting the kind of kickback and torque that you are describing in your video though. For me, it is very forgiving and dead in the hand. I'm looking forward to seeing your follow up video. Hope it works better for you.
The Mathews cams are made of 6061 aluminum, and the Bowtech cams are made of 7075 aluminum. It will last way longer than the Mathews cam. Believe me, I know. I shoot a Bowtech Destroyer 350 that I've dry-fired 3 times now in the 12 years that I've owned it, and not one single bend in either cam. Try doing that with a Mathews.
Ok second comment after watching. Very interesting review. Honest and you’ve earned a subscriber and I can’t wait to go through your back catalog and see what you do next. I really like the “what not to do” for this bow. The executive summary here from my thoughts and your review is: This bow is about trade offs. Lack of absolute comfort (end to end) versus session after session; season after season consistency in shot-to-target placement. Curious to see if this is where you land after your in-depth review. Feedback/Long comment: I may have missed it but I’m not sure how long you shot the bow before reviewing. This may like you say, it’s a matter of your personal preference. I think the cost differential is you’re paying for the cam lock system. There are a few reviews that note the bow holds steady between field to broadhead and keeping solid groups. That alone, adds a good deal for the R&D surcharge we see with the bow. That and you’re saving on the cost of having it be professionally tuned or buying a bow press to do it yourself. Again looking back at other reviewers I can see a commonality in which they are heavily in favor of the consistency for grouping, in conjunction with the ease of tuning. This may offset for the fit and feel of this bow that did not appeal to you. Overall, I’m curious how you would feel running a few hundred arrows through this bow. Just out of curiosity. As an experiment I purchased a Diamond (Bowtech) Infinite Edge Pro. I’ve put about 3000 arrows through it and 2 accidental dry fires. Bow was about 349 not including upgraded 5 pin sight. Bow runs exceptionally well. Has the same “thud” you y’all about regarding vibration as well. This may be a bowtech thing. Shooting that many arrows I would thing it would bother me; it doesn’t. It’s just the architecture. The grouping for that cheap bow is still great; but after 3K arrows ive lost 1 pound of draw weight. So I think for that cost and abnormal shooting scenario, a thud for aftershock and 1 pound of draw weight drop after 2 months of consecutive shooting is doable. The same may be scalable up to this much more professional bow that by design won’t lose a pound of draw weight after 3K shots; you can essentially set it and forget it. In short it’s about trade offs... consistency versus absolute end to end comfort, it seems.
I shot the Bowtech a while lot. It grouped well buy I didn't enjoy the shooting experience as much as the others. The kick out based on my grip was funky but that's not the bows fault, just not the best one for me.
Brandon Mcdonald makes complete sense. You have to feel comfortable with the tool you’re going to use long term and so on. There’s no use forcing yourself into the shoe if it doesn’t fit.
I’d never buy another Bowtech carbon riser bow myself. They are known to warp… you’ll be replacing in 4-5 years from now as the cams start to lean so bad you’ll be afraid to shoot it. Do a search for “carbon riser warping” and you’ll see what I mean
I like this video and the honest opinion of the bow even though i am thinking of buying one because of the adjustability. I have noticed the same draw cycle stiffness in the end of the draw cycle on my pse ferocity when i shoot it after using my mathews vertix a long time. And the first time i felt that it actually scared me and i thought there was something wrong with the bow, so i understand why you are saying the things about the valley. And seeing you are a mathews user too, i know exactly the feeling. And after the vertix i am realy struggling with bows that dont act as smooth and dead in the hand as mathews bows do. I am not a mathews fanboy and i own a plethora of bows, but i just cant get over the fact that my mathews feels better without any stabilisers and accessories than 90% of any other bow's in the market. When i pay over 1000 euros for a bow i expect it to be as smooth and enjoyable to use as possible.
I have had the worst experience trying to get a new PSE. Been Mathews guy for ever. The shop I have that’s close had nothing to shoot mainly bc I am left handed but totally understand why you would just say screw it 30 buts to shoot a bow is ridiculous
I actually paid the money! I wanted to see if they'd actually follow through! As they were ringing me out I kind of mentioned it to the shop owners wife. She just smoked and took my money! Ha. The Mathews is shooting pretty sweet this year, just saying.
I'm not saying that this is NOT an honest video, but there are so many people saying this without having shot the Revolt for themselves lmao. I have seen guys fall in love with this bow and have 0 complaints. So are they being superficially impressed? Because this is "FINALLY, AN HONEST REVIEW" stated by so many with 0% first hand experience with this bow? Brandon you've created a can of worms! Bravo, sir!
After basically a year of having heard feedback about it here's what I've concluded. Guys with draws under 28" like the draw cycle, longer and the cams just feel like crap at the end. I didn't like the way the bow finished for me and my grip which is obviously subjective.
Just shot one of these last week and found none of the problems you seem to have (and I hadn't shot a Bowtech in 15 years). I realize how subjective the feel of a bow can be but dayum man ......maybe you need to go traditional.
I haven't liked any new bows in the last 5 yrs, Why are we going backwards on weight, i mean almost 5lbs bare bow on some models? Heck you can add 1-lbs to a 8yr old bow and take care of any vibrations, and shoot just as good for most people.
I shot the Revolt X a couple of weeks ago and thought it shot well. Still waiting to shoot the Bowtech Reckoning 35, PSE NXT 35, and Hoyt Axius Ultra. I've shot the Elite Ritual 35, but wasn't that impressed.
Wow i just bought this bow today. Shot it for a long time before i made my decision. Over the pse evo nxt and the new prime bow. Thought it was neck and neck with the pse.
Gotta say, this has been one of my favorite videos you’ve produced. I know you were conflicted about releasing this but this is a perfect critical look at WHY this bow doesn’t work for you. Really appreciate the humor and self-deprecation along with detailed commentary of the issues you experienced. Perfect, thanks!
Man, I REALLY wanted to get into this bow. Can’t speak to shooting because I don’t own it but for the price, the plastic limb pockets were a turn off. The way the cams can be moved to replace shimming is awesome but only time will tell about the durability of that system on the end of the limbs as they are. I wasn’t willing to gamble. I know everybody complains about Mathews mass weight but they just look like they’re built for the long haul.
The Mathews feels like I could use it as a hiking stick and still shoot straight with it! I'm with you about the adjustability and the plastic parts, not just on the limb pockets...
Bowtech ended up getting donated to Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation so she's gone... Until next year if I can convince my wife to let me buy a bunch more.
Brandon Mcdonald I use the pse evo nxt . I’ve always love pse they have never done wrong for me. They aren’t the most expensive but reliable for me anyways! Cheers and I enjoy your videos
Bowtechs are know for not having a great draw cycle on the last inch of the cam adjustment. Calling them cheap looking is kind of silly though cam tech is most advanced out there and the finish one of the best only rivaled by g5 prime. Its a great bow shot it a bunch but ultimately went with mathews as ive owned a realm x and sr6.
I think it was just the plastic parts and the way things fit together. Plus the actual machining around the grip and some of the tighter turns wasnt as precision as some of the others are. I called the shop today and he said just want you're staying about that last inch on the draw. I'm going to try lowering it to 28 dl just to see. I've liked bowtech in the past. Almost bought an sr6 last year.
I had a massive brain malfunction with the stud in my Stan release, luckily the release only broke the arrow retainer on my Hamskea rest as it went sailing through my bow. But otherwise, yes I love my Stan Perfx as well. Thanks for the objective view of the bow. I really like my RealmX but I'm not an every year bow guy and there is just something about everything going on with the Bowtech that makes me want something simpler and less moving parts.
Yes. I bought 5 bows this year to dog into each one so I knew there was a chance I wouldn't like one even though I'd already decided which I was going to buy.
Great video, Brandon! Thanks for sharing your honest experience with the Revolt X. Also, maybe it’s just me but for some reason when I’m looking at your channel via the RU-vid app it only shows your last 3 uploads and nothing else. On the Chrome web browser everything looks normal though.