I Bought AliExpress' Top Selling RAM 

To give the ram a bit of credit, I have a ryzen 1600 and corsair 3200mhz ram bought back in 2017 and I had issues running at 3200mhz and had to drop down to 2933mhz. I think the blame can be put squarely on first gen ryzen where its mem ory compatibility was and still is very spotty. In my ryzen 3600 set up the same corsair stick could go up to 3600 cl18 without issue

I have this brand on my main pc! I have 4 sticks of ddr4 32gb total 3200mhz. It pretty good I'd say, worked right out the box and for only 42 bucks for 32 gbs, I certainly cannot complain about the value.

PRO life tip: add the ram module name in title description for more views/search results of actual buyers/users. nice and short video god damn, always on point!

I've got this brand in my AM5 build. 32gb 2x16 DDR5 5200, got it on sale for $50 on Amazon last year. Still going strong, in currently developing in Unreal Engine 5.3 for up to eight hours at a time with zero issues, also supports XMP.

Greetings from Ecuador. I follow your channel 10 years ago and its absolutely incredible!

I have the same RAM! Came with my Xeon combo. I always found it odd it defaulted to its advertised speed but never knew about the manual voltages or that they weren’t compatible with certain systems. Now I know, thanks mate 🎉

Trying to pronounce that brand name is kllisre-ing me.

Love this kind of content. Always up for a bit of Aliexpress 🤣

The Kllisre (Killers?) brand is meant to be intel only, specially for X99 Xeon kits. It kinda works with AMD, but it definitely won't with integrated graphics AMD. It just works if it's not messed with, but it won't last. Its heatsink is poorly glued in, as it will fall inside the case within 3 to 4 months of use (I had 2 kits of 2 modules of 8 and 16GBs lose the heatsink within weeks of each other), and it's not unlikely of blue screens happening after that.

Purchased 4 brand new sticks of the exact same brand, 2 out of 4 are not passing memtest. Moved now to cheap and super good lexar (Samsung chips) and not a single issue since.

I bought a xeon e5 2680 v4 kit and it included 16 gb of this RAM, the heatsink was a bit too tight and causing issues but trying to loosen it solved it, it's a perfect budget build choice

Are you willing to check what RAM chips they use with Thaiphoon Burner or something similar?

Interesting findings. I was disapointed to learn that the AMD G series chips don't have the capacity to run the same speeds of memory or Gen 4 SSDs.

my Ryzen 7 1700 max supported RAM speed was 2666, but I OC'd mine to 3200 and was working fine for months, until I started playing GTA 5, thats the only game that bluescreened...

Ali Express can be great if you can find some specifics on the sticks. I got a some nice Dual Rank Samsung B- Die last year. The sticks have substantial heatsinks, which is necessary for B Die OC. 32GB of 3866C14 with tight sub timings, and can just skip the whole DDR5 Gen and the headache that is DDR5 tuning.

you probably could get it running at CL16 3200. As found out; Voltage is the big big factor that makes most ram go past 2866 stably. Even the best binned kits of DDR4 generally still need at least 1.325v to go much past 3200 no matter how loose the timings. That being said with Micron E-Die, even older kits; not much point going past 1.4v.

I’ve noticed with AMD system you’ve run the modules with command rate set automatically to CR1 and in the Intel system it was CR2. Command rate plays a big role in stabilising the system memory and it sometimes makes the difference between the stable and unstable system. Another thing I must mention for your less experienced viewers is that maximum ram frequency depends on integrated memory controller (IMC) for Ryzen 1600 it’s 2666MHz anything above that is considered overclocking and it’s not guaranteed by the AMD. Intel on the other hand supports 3200MHz RAM out of the box for its 12th gen processors. Keep up the good work m8 :)

I've had similar results with cheap memory and AM5 boards. My NZXT B650 board booted just fine with 16gb of ultra-cheap CL42 DDR5 5200 but slowly began to fail over a week's time. I gave it to a friend running Intel LGA1700 and he's had zero problems since. Perhaps Ryzen is just more finicky with bargain ram?

Summit Ridge/ 1x00 series Ryzens are/were notorious for not being able to run ram reliably above 2800-3000MT (my flatmate had an 1800X that couldn't manage over 2666 even), that could have been what you were seeing with the 1600X on the B450 board.

Right after dawid, nice

4:37 these bad boys have been remembering things for me for about 7 years now, i payed 200e for 16gb back in the day

I have 32gb made by that same company in my x99 build right now and it works absolutely fine! No issues with it at all. I got those 4 8gb sticks for $57cdn with free shipping on Ali Express. The other 4 sticks in my tower are 4 8gb made by Juhor and same deal, they work just fine and were super cheap.

If I remember correctly, 2666 is the highest official JEDEC speed for DDR4. I think the issue was that the board wasn’t reading the XMP profile so it went to the highest JEDEC speed. XMP profiles do contain voltage settings which is why I think when you set the speed to 3200 and increased the voltage the errors stopped. Intel made XMP which is likely why that worked out of the box at the right speed. Great video by the way, Chinese parts are always interesting to look at.

I put 32gb of this in a system for a family member about 6 months ago. 32GB 3200MT CL22 for £33.44 delivered. Been working perfect.

Just a heads up, everything from KILLSRE is made from used/refurbished components, ram, graphic cards, motherboards

There's nothing wrong with buying suhc RAM. As long as it works, and setting the voltage to 1.30V is fine (you also get some overclocking headroom too). People are missing the point when getting this RAM. All RAM is now advertised as "gaming" RAM. What if you don't game or just want an actual budget-conscious solution? Getting the RAM that just works, of course. Though, you might be better off getting some used RAM from a more reputable brand for the same price. As long as it does not throw any errors in a couple years.

Those modules work very well with Xeon processors and i don't know why.

I bought the killsre ecc 3200hz for my hp z440. Best cheap upgrade that added some extra noticeable performance and it's simple to install.

I have bought this brand in DDR3 in Intel Haswell era. It worked very well with a HyperX Fury in dual channel. Later a friend of mine bought a DDR4 stick for a 10th gen Intel config. Still working today. CL times needs to be optimized a bit manually, but given the price, this is a really good value.

I have one question In DDR4 rams, we have to use it in dual channel to get maximum performance , is it same for DDR5 , can we use different size rams (for example 12 gb 4800mhz + 8gb 4800mhz ) in DDR5 , as the single channel ram of DDR5 performs equally , please make a video and perform a test

I am running 32GB of DDR4 3200MHz CL22 (got 2 Lexar sticks, 2 Adata sticks for ~38$ used) with my Ryzen 7 5700X, and it is running just fine for me. As Zen and Zen+ CPUs are notorious for poor RAM compatibility, it might explains why that kit did not work so well with your Ryzen 5 1600AF. Great video, as always

I don’t mess with cheap RAM because it’s usually cheap due to QC cuts. One kit may work while another won’t and it’s a roll of the dice

I recently built an all aliexpress pc (minus the case, because I'm not paying 35 dollars plus 185 in shipping for a case I can but for 60 bucks on amazon), and used this ram. I was pleased with how fast it arrived, and considering the PC i build (xeon based)I wasn't that worried about the CL because I highly doubted ram would be the bottleneck. Gotta say, it was a lot of fun spending only about $300 total for a cpu, ram power supply, motherboard, gpu, and storage, and having a working product in the end!

Not bad, though I reckon the problems you faced were due to the B450 board. My DDR4-3200 Corsair RAM failed to hit its full speed on a B450 board, but succeeded without issue on two different X570 boards.

I have been using Klissre 8 GB DDR3 1866 MHz Rams in my X58 system for 5 years without any problems (in Triple channel).

1.35v is what the DOCP set my 3200Mhz RAM to, so it makes sense that it is required. And I have a B450 board as well.

3200Mhz CL22 is laptop memory. They are reusing some laptop chips and putting them on desktop DIMMs. It won't work on certain chips because it doesn't support the laptop speeds.

great video as usual thanks a bunch keep up the great work

I am running Chinese ramaxel ddr4 cl22 3200mhz ram as 4x 8gb on my x370+r5 3600 setup, works flawlessly. Dual channel on a320+r3 3100 system too, no issues.

I actually bought one of the same RAM brand but in DDR3. I'm building a Mini ITX PC with an i3 4th gen that I had lying around. I will be using it as a dedicated streaming PC to take the load off my PC while I stream xD Hopefully mine runs as smooth as yours.

I have used this ram brand on my old ddr2 phenom, worked pretty well!

I used a chinese ram kit for just about 2 years. Long story short, it started causing random problems while showing absolutely zero errors in every memory test, windows or bootable. I ended up buying a new CPU and new PSU before a new RAM because motherboard showed led errors for other stuff. If you want some cheap useful RAM, go for it, but do yourself a favor, ANYTHING wrong with your system in the future, always suspect the RAM first when using these. CPU or GPU led error? RAM. System turning off without error logs as if you pulled the plug? RAM. System restarting as if you pressed reset? RAM.

I think pinnacle ridge IMC's tap out at 3000MHz and that's why it gave errors with 3200MHz...back in the days, if you could do 3200 with a Zen or Zen+ chip you had a golden sample.

I actually bought DDR5 rams off Ali around month ago for my i5-13400F / B760i combo (board is also from Ali) and i have to say that yes, those memory works flawlessly on Intel based systems - for Ryzens you need to do a bit of tweaking over the bios... tested that on my friend 7500F and he also had to set memory voltage to 1.35 Tho lets also agree that since Ryzen 1000 series, memory on Ryzen was always a bit different thing... you kinda were forced to use high clock memory - i still remember that if you did not had 3200MT/s memory on Ryzen 3000, you literary were just kicking yourself in a gut or how Intel with 2666/2933 could rival with Ryzen running at 3200 :s

For the price, not bad! Just difficult to say, if the RAM will work after few months / years.

The issue you had with the AMD CPU would be due to the integrated memory controller on the CPU itself. 1000 and 2000 (Zen 1 & 1+)series Ryzen had a lot of work to do in terms of memory compatibility, but the problems were largely resolve by the 3000 (Zen 2) series. The B450 board bore no responsibility for any memory issues you had. In fact if you used the same board with a Zen 2 or 3 chip, you'd have had no issues

Kllisre is an old, long-running Aliexpress kind of "brand", they have branded boxes etc. Despite that, their "2666 MHz" stick of DDR4 SO-DIMM that I bought has weird SPD table and thus only works at 2400 MHz. It's a laptop so no option to change parameters manually. In contrast, a more recently purchased WALRAM stick also has wird SPD in that all 4 profiles are 2666 MHz but with different timings. But at least it really is a 2666 stick unlike Kllisre.

1.35v is standard for overclocked ddr4 RAM 1.2v is only for jedec rated speeds so anything over 2666 will require upto and likely exactly 1.35v

I am here to tell you about this ram. I bought it because it's cheaper than anything in italy, but it camewitha little twist:it doesn't work with ryzen g-series with modules bigger than 4gb other than some other ryzen cpus, but it is 100% compatible with intel

DDR4 stock clock is up to 2400MHz at 1.2V and anything above that is an overclock at which 1.35V is pretty much the standard for all. My 3200MHz corsair ram also has xmp profile at 1.35V

You can't just set the memory speed like that, you need to update all the timings as well as increasing the voltage. And I had a 1600 when it first came out and there were lots of issues with memory, it was advised to get something with Samsung b-die chips to run at 3200mhz at the time.

Would be interesting to see the actual memory chips under the heatspreader on that RAM. If they even have the same chips between them or between the previous kit. I'm guessing they've sanded the chips so no markings will be visible.

Secondary timings are not part of XMP spec IIRC, so it's up to the motherboard to figure them out and if it can't you will encounter errors. Anyways unless you can verify at least 24h of no errors while running tm5, you should consider your RAM unstable and never use it out of the JEDEC spec, otherwise windows get completely messed up and corrupted with the constant updates, no extra performance is worth it.

the lower speed on the 1600af is because that cpu only supports up to 2666, which doesn't typically matter, but because the ram is 3200 jedec (not xmp/docp, which is technically overclocking), the cpu can't run the ram at rated frequency.

I’m not surprised with issues surrounding the RAM and Ryzen CPUs. AliExpress has a lot of Motherboard/CPU/RAM combos, which are all with Intel processors, so most, if not all, Chinese RAM kits are better suited to Intel systems.

First time RAM that comes with "Some Assembly needed.. " lolz

It's not just this brand, even dodgy Kingston ones behave exactly the same way. Sown doesn't work in my B550M 5600X system, but works perfectly fine in my X99 E2670 v3 rig 🙄

I'm doing a bit of a switcheroo, got a 4tb hybrid drive for my main PC which will free up two 1TB hybrids 2.5's which I will then format, partition and load up with Xbox firmware and put one each into my Xbox Ones as the old standard SATA's are holding it back on stuff like Starfield. My main Xbox One OG has a 750gb hybrid in and that I will put into my external which has a 500gb SSD in at mo and I will keep the SSD to hook up with my USB attachment so will have two nice size externals which I might employ on my second Xbox One as I am in the process of Retroarching it having forked out the dev key to MS (man a lesson in obtuseness getting the dev key working, I mean seriously chase your tail many times O.o) For the PC it means I can take some of the load off my 1tb fast M.2 SSD, Western Digital black one, very speedy and Win 11 goes from power to desktop under 20 secs fully loaded...

To be fair to the company I've had issues with RAM voltages on older AM4 motherboards as well using mainstream brands. Don't see why there is an APU and 4000/5000 restriction though, it should really be able to run.

The KLEVV Bolt X is my new go to budget ram. It's SK Hynix chips so is pretty reliable and works solid with both Ryzen and Intel systems. None of that Corsair nonsense with one kit for AMD and another for Intel. Can get them pretty cheap. Amazon was selling 16gb 3200mhz cl16 kit for £26.99 not so long back. Much safer bet than unknown chinese rubbish.

Next video: exploring laptop qs cpus

I have this RAM installed on my wife's PC! If I recall correctly, the rated CL of this is 22, so trying to run it with the timings 20-19-19-43 might have caused some instability? That said I have it on a Ryzen 5600X running at 3200MHz with timings at 20-20-20-50 at 1.2v so far just fine, so maybe part of it is a bad draw with the silicon lottery. My motherboard (which is admittedly newer) also automatically detected the ram speed and timings (it auto-set them to 22-22-22-52), though I was expecting to have to manually set it (no one-click overclocking though, that had to be done manually). I wouldn't recommend this for most people though, since if you're the kind of person that expects it to plug in and just work the weird incompatibilities with some CPU's might throw you off. That and if you're looking for something that's super reliable, since I think I saw a video where they take off that heat spreader and underneath the actual ram chips are from different batches and sometimes even different companies (not going to do it with my own to confirm though). Also I put zero confidence in the warranty of this company (the only reason I was willing to overclock those timings a bit was this).

I bought this exact same kit last year and couldn't even get it to post at 3200 with my X470 and Ryzen 5 2600, I had to return it. For reference, I am currently using a 3000 kit from Crucial running at 3400 without issues on that same system.

Zen 1 and Zen+ processors are notorious for their problematic work with faster RAM speeds. Newer AGESA versions helped, but at first it was hard to achieve more than 2993 Mb/s with anything but Samsung B-die memory.

First of all the kit was advertised as 3200Mhz CL22, not CL20 so you *weren't* failing to run it "as advertised". Secondly, DOCP would have increased the voltage to 1.35v as well, so apart from timings you just manually made it run like DOCP would have.

Another RAM from there which seems to be quite popular is the Asgard brand.

3200, CL22? Quality stuff 😉🤣😁

Nice

3200Mt/s ram should be fed with 1.35v. 1.2v is rated for ddr4 jedec default speed of 2666. Also, timmings config should be better, around CL16/18 max.

I bought a bundle from kllirse containing a xeon e5 2680 v4, a motherboard, and 16gb of ram.

buying these off aliexpress is more expensive than T-Force's kit on amazon

Have you tried manually tuning the timings? Doubt it would go very far without being unstable, but for the real budget-conscious, you should try to squeeze every bit of performance out of it.

I imagine it's a compatibility issue with IOs designed for chips with integrated graphics that are causing problems on AMD more than the B450 PCB itself. I had a similar problem with Patriot RAM when I updated my BIOS on my MSi T'hawk MAX B450 board for Zen3, no matter what I did the memory would only run at 2133MHz(it's base clock speed), any OC to the stated 3200CL16 rating just led to my machine crashing within an hour for the first crash then minutes for crashes after that. I use an R5 5500 for context. I swapped the RAM out for some used HyperX with a base clock of 2400MHz and just set the OC profile to 3200MHz and it's worked crash free since. I concluded that with an APU IO you need RAM with a certain minimum base clock for it work properly on my CPU.

This brand is great i have Chinese build with xeon using x79 board and ecc ram same brand KLLISRE and i am very happy with quality of this brand

This stuff seems surprisingly reliable for the ridiculously low price. I've shoved a bunch into a workstation build.

I had problems with that RAM too, but in my ryzen 5 3600, I didn't know how to change the voltage or tweak it was my first pc build and the games just crashed after playing them for 5 minutes or so and I didn't know what was causing the problem, I realized it was the RAM after running memtest. I ended replacing it for an expensive 16gb 3600mhz xmp 2.0 CL22 single stick that I also got in AliExpress. Zero problems till now.

FYI memtest64 can't even be classed as a stresstest, its that shit at detecting errors. You can stabilise memory for it and still be unstable in cinebench of all things. I'd recommend running kahru, TM5 and randomx (if on amd) for at least 8h each if you're planning to save anything significant on that system.

I mostly know this brand for their X99 boards.

The problem with the Ryzen 5 1600 was probably the memory controller. Even the 3k series had issues with ram. Things like not being able to use 4 sticks of ram with the 3600 lol

Nice keep it up

You can kinda use it on a ryzen g if you have another different ram. It won't be fast but I juat needed a lot of ram, not fas.

I bought 6 sticks of 16gb ddr4 3200 from kllisre, they run just fine on my r5 2600 and i5 7400 I wouldn't overclock it, and better ram would give me more performance, but not enough to matter, it won't turn 30fps to 60fps If you are on a budget, it's much, MUCH better to save the money for a better GPU

Should have bought Juhor memory, it has Samsung chips and can take 3200 pretty reliably even on first gen ryzens.

My ram sticks are green with just a sticker for brand name

Did you verify that there was not an error in bios for the Ryzen? There has been so many issues popping up with both cpu and ram voltages not being what is stated on different boards so it may be it needed a bios update?

I got 32gb rgb kit by them and it does fine. Just finding apps to controll the rgb is a pain.

Any " truly chinese" memory, including SSDs is a lottery, they are built using different memory banks from a lot of manufacturers You can't be sure what exactly will you get

this like perfectly fine ram for really cheap. For 21 dollars this good value if your aliexpress package arrives that is

I have Aliexpress ram as well, 3600MHZ CL14. The XMP profiles uses 1.45v I think. It works well though.

I would have assumed that it has something to do with the fact that this is the JDEC profile for 3200, as often especially on AMD and sometimes on Intel will set the VDDQ plus the I/o voltages to the same base voltage so all of them to 1.2, but many CPUs that came afterwards weren't verified for that spec at that speed where 12th gen was the first CPU generation with jdec 3200 support, I'd assume you would have had issues if you used 10th gen, might have worked if you tweaked the IO voltages manually instead of the DRAM voltage

This was my first ddr4 ram

There are too many variants: mainboard brand, bios version and last but not least there is a QVL List for a reason.

All of these RAM (All aliexpress brands) require 1.35V for 3200 MHz, It is realmagic that it already worked couple of times with 1.20V I think😅 I also have Jazer memory from Aliexpress worked wonders with my 4650G and 2200G that I used earlier... You can even reduce the clocks a bit to improve the performance.

The 3200mhz kit was not stable for me. I think it is because it defaults cl15 and this is way too low. I was on a i5 6500 motherboard and cpu.

I Do have Killsre Memory RAM Stick It's a DDR3 1600Mhz 8GB, i wanted to buy another just to make a dual channel for my computer but turns out that my motherboard only supports 8GB Max which is kind of suck and gonna have to buy a motherboard that can hold 16GB I love your videos bro! 👍

I just bought some Ram off Temu yesterday for my older computer I play around with, Now I'm a little concerned.

Damn, I was just about to hit the magic go go button then remembered I got a Coolermaster MasterAir GX100 which is a bit finicky about tall ram so going to get the calipers on it tomorrow to see if the air gap is enough for a stick or not /sigh I would ideally like to find some 32gb sticks as only got two ram slots.

My old set up apu ryzen 3 3200g mother board can only go up to 2666mhz, it is an A320 mb, with max specification ram of 2666mhz. So i think most amd older setup will not be compatible with a memory of 3200mhz

Should have Open it and see which modules are used.

I can walk into 3 local c.e.x. stores and get a matched pair of branded faster ram for that money. But if I couldnt I guess I might buy those.