The only integrated graphics solutions that came close to the GeForce 210/8400 were the GeForce 9400 IGP and GeForce 320 IGP (both part of the Ion platform and used in some Core 2 Apple products from late 2008 until everything moved to Sandy Bridge). Maybe the ATI Xpress 3200 as well, but I’m not sure it supported DX10.
I build a Athlon II X3 435( with a 4th unlockable core)+ motherboard and a GTX 465 for about 50 euros, I used a HDD I basically got for free with some ram I also got for free, a case for 10 bucks and yeah the psu I initially got for free but I had a really loud pop when I was overclocking, and after swapping out some parts it appears the psu might have died. I'm gonna try it in a couple of minutes and see if that thing works again it's some old generic PSU that gives 450W which should have been plenty for the set up, it uses around 350-380W max if I recall correctly. Also I think it's probably dead I've had bad stuff with computers before but it was hella loud and yeah luckily nothing but that got damaged everything else is running as it Should. But ignoring the hick ups it's still really good for gaming ( less good for general usuage cuz if the hdd but a SSD would definitely fix that.) I can play most games on medium settings around 60fps( kinda depends what game exactly but deep rock galactic runs with medium and ultra settings ( textures in ultra the rest in medium). It did get a bit more expensive but the psu but before that it was a great deal. Still is a fun build though
@@MashupsByMandy No I was just saying if he could stream with it. And Micheal was talking about office work, browsing, and streaming. I was talking about streaming like watching video's.
I remember adding a gt210 on my e5200 system and thinking the performance of the card is amazing after gaming with integrated graphics for years. Turns out I had low expectations back then lol
@@sliceofbread965 coincidentally I do have a 1650 now and it's friggin amazing, coming from years of using integrated graphics and cards like gt 210 and 1030
@@v3xman the 210? you poor soul, that's worse than hd 4000, way worse iirc. At least I was able to play most of what I wanted with it. A 210 can't even play minecraft java well from like a few years ago most likely. GT 1030 is a solid card tho, I don't have any personal experience but I know that I want some with it. I have a laptop 1650, so if you have a desktop variant than you are probably faster, but mine performs pretty well. I haven't tested it in a truly intense game for the gpu yet, but stuff like gmod and terraria run pretty well. I am happy for your journey towards a pretty solid gaming experience, it's a great feeling.
I just recently sold a Dell Optiplex 755 SFF for a nice amount of 110 EUR. I bought it originally for 25 EUR and probably put 60 EUR worth of upgrades in it ( a Q9550, 8GB ram, Kingston SSD and a PCI wireless card ). Sold the CPU that was in it originally for an extra 10 EUR
MokerMovies Afterthought. It was my sister’s PC but then I gave her the one I build from scratch and this one became a spare so eventually I sold it to clear the space
I had the DT model, that same Dell. I made the following upgrades on it: I updated the BIOS, put 8GB of RAM, plus a SSD of 240GB, a Xeon X3363 (with mod adaptation of LGA771 to 775), and a GT 1030 GDDR5. It worked very well.
I daily drove this tower myself 5+ years ago, it made a great little gaming beast. 240GB Kingston SSD ($40) 4x2GB DDR2 (laying around) GTX 750ti ($40 on marketplace) and a Core2Quad Q6600 at 3.0Ghz using the tape bsel mod (cover 1 CPU pad) $9 on eBay I still have it, my girlfriend uses it for adding to her iTunes library and playing browser games once in a while
Win10 on a Core2Duo runs surprisingly well. One of my older PCs also is a Core2Duo system, I'm still using it sometimes when my main PC is disassembled for upgrades and I just need a rig for everyday-usage until main rig is ready-to-go again. But note: It's a good idea to add a GPU - that's a big improvement for RU-vid or generally watching videos.
I bought one of these off gumtree a few weeks back, it has a quad core Xeon X3223 clocked at 2.5Ghz, an AMD Radeon 6350 with 256mb of vram, a 320GB WD Barracuda 7200 rpm, 4Gb DDR 2 and a wifi adapter and a licenced copy of windows 10 pro. Cost me £55 and is clean as fook. Still a very fast system for its age.
Recently bought an Optiplex 780 for my parents. Added an extra 4GB RAM (from previous optiplex) an SSD, a fresh install of Windows 10 pro, removed all the usual bloatware, then fully updated and crap cleared. It is a hell of a desktop machine. PC was 35 quid, 125gb SSD was £25, extra RAM was free. Happy days😎
I just built a PC with old parts I found in my garage, a phenom ii x4 925 with 7GB of DDR2 (one of the ram stick was not working so I had to replace it with a 1GB stick) as well as a passively cooled Radeon HD 5450, it runs like a charm on Windows 10 and the cpu works quite cool even without thermal paste. I can even play minecraft on it with decent framerate. Also I love your accent, I think 50% of the reason why I'm watching your videos is your accent. May I ask you where you live if it's not intrusive?
I got a very similar PC free from work when we had a clear out. Optiplex 380. Dropped in a Q9550, 8GB RAM, SSD and a low profile 1050ti. Works great for running my wife’s embroidery machine and light gaming. Spent maybe 120 pounds tops. It’s a nice little box.
Back in 2015 I bought an Optiplex 780 SFF from Amazon with E7500, 1TB HDD, 8GB DDR3 and a HD5450 for £100. Used it as my main system with two monitors for about 3 years and upgraded to a 4600 i7 ThinkCentre. Optiplex was brilliant, hard drive died, but I stuck an SSD in and it got even better, still have it and still runs very well, although doesnt get used much now. Be careful putting a C2Q in, I tried that and it wouldnt run right and they get stupid hot.
Avoid anything older than a 755, they all seem to have capacitor bloat issues. However the 330 seems to be ok. I have a 330 that's been modded to take a Xeon E5440 and it works great, except for having 2 ram slots only. The 7 series seemed to mostly have 4 slots.
This will ACTUALLY support a firepro wx4100 card which is pretty close in performance to an rx560 turning this into a pretty capable gaming rig at least for esports titles like CS:GO, especially with the aforementioned core 2 quad thrown in...you also have the option of using an x-series Xeon as the bios has built-in support for those too...I know because I got one of these absolutely free, maxed out the ram to 8gb ddr2 that I had laying around, threw in the wx4100 with 4gb video mem and an x3370 Xeon and honestly not bad at all for the price! It'll run most of the latest games believe it or not, great value even in 2020 and I did all this WITHOUT changing the power supply too!!!
I remember buying a little Dell setup like this when I became curious about Linux, some years ago. It worked for ages while I went through all the distros, and really did start my love for trying something other than Windows. Seeing this video gives me fond memories, and because of that little Dell computer, I'm now a full-time Linux user. Thanks for a smashing video!
My first ever home PC I gamed on when I was around 11-12 (nearly 2008-2010) gave me these exact same types of artifacts on counter strike source! I messed with so many files to get a solid 60-100 fps on a potato of a rig, and lived with those artifacts for my first few years of gaming, and they were and remain to be hilarious. Source Engine +1
I have one of these in 2022 at work. It handles dual-monitor for office work (office, qad, cad viewer), with google chrome opened for various reasons, works quickly for its purpose. I have to mention tho, i got 730 version with added SSD. I was horrified at first, but it's actually usable even after all those years. EDIT: It's running Windows 7
I have one of these I am using as a media machine on a TV, but it could, in fact, be used for light gaming if you upgrade/mod it a bit. I flashed a custom BIOS on mine and installed a cheap quad-core Xeon along with 8GB of DDR3 RAM. I added a $5 Radeon HD 7450, that I have a few of lying around anyway, for some basic graphics output. It can actually run some old or simple games OK, despite being an aging, weaker OEM card. It's only 25w, so besides fitting in the half-height slot, it can run off the low MB PCIe power. I would suggest something else though if intended for light gaming, perhaps the Nvidia GT 1030 variant with DDR4 RAM. While inferior to the normal GT 1030, it only requires 20W draw from the PCIe slot.
I bought a used full set Dell Optiplex PC for US$50. Core 2 Duo, 2GB DDR2 and 160GB HDD. Installed Linux Lite 4.8 and it performs sufficiently for web browsing, office suites and media consumption. Boot time ~40 seconds.
Micky D the ps3 was, because of the cell processor, super hard to code games on. That processor functioned like a graphics chip rather than a standard processor.
Nice! I owned a 755 for quite a while. Bios updated it, and put a GTX 1050 sff in it. And a Q6600 with tape for 3.0 Ghz. A extra casefan (80/90mm) is advisable if you ever fit the side panel on.
I have an HP DC7900 SF with a core2 duo and q45/q43 express chipset and 4GB of RAM as my main PC. The only thing that I'd say is something I'll miss if I get a new PC, is the PCI slot, in which I put a sound card so I can have different sound outputs for my desk speakers and my stereo.
I bought this same system so my parents could have a computer. Upgrading to an SSD is a must, otherwise this PC will grind to a halt long-term. Probably the best graphics card that power supply will support is a low profile GT 1030 DDR5, but a low profile RX 550 *may* work (50W TDP), but out of price range for this PC. Definitely upgrade to 8GB of PC6400 RAM for only $20 USD. Finally, you can upgrade the CPU to a Core 2 Quad Q9650. I'm really happy with this system since upgrading to SSD.
I have a half dozen of these in my basement. Got them free from the library. Tech support didn't know how to clean them out, so they would pull them when they stopped. E recycling isn't that popular around here so they had an issue getting rid of them. I found out about them and scored them, plus some other oddities. Issue I have is bios lockdown. Keep kids safe stuff and a few even have USB lockouts. My hobby got tougher. Lol. Keep up the great work.
I saw a listing for a “gaming PC” bundle on eBay for $300 USD It had a PC with an i5-2300, 8gb ram, a GT 710, a 1TB hard drive, and it also came with an advertised monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers. If you could find this I think that’d be a cool idea for a video, even if it is expensive. If the monitor, keyboard, speakers or whatnot are good it could be pretty interesting to look into.
Welcome to my old school, these machines were everywhere and in many cases the monitors were connected to newer optiplex machines, the days of waiting 10 minutes to login to the network.
Ha, I have one of these under my TV as a HTPC, i added a hd5450 to help with the media decode and that was about everything i needed for streaming stuff. Protip: For upgrade path they do actually support the Q6600 but only the SLACR 95w version, but it does mean you can go up to 4 cores which does make games like CSGO a lot less of a lagfest.
I had that same work station on my desk at work using a Core 2 Quad Q9550. The performance was terrible until I slapped a 120 Gb ssd and GT730 in that small form factor case. I had to use zip tie to secure the ssd to the main ATX power cable and removed the 3.5 hard drive holder to make room for the height gt 730. I could run 3DMark and get a decent score on the DX10 Benchmark.
I bought a 760 locally for NZ$20 (~US$12.50) shipped that came with 4 GB RAM and a 320 GB HDD. You can remove the DVD drive and replace it with an SSD using a laptop ODD adapter, and you can replace the CPU with a modded Xeon 3300/5400 series from AliExpress for anywhere between $5 and $20. The X3363 is the most compatible, and the E/X5450 is the best value; just make sure you avoid the 400 MHz FSB models that end in 2, and remember to update the BIOS.
I actually picked up a very similar pc at a library book fair. The library has removed the Windows 7 OS but charged only $5 for it with mouse & keyboard included. It was a bit difficult but I managed to put Windows XP on it and now use it as a Retro gaming pc.
I have 3 of these. My work was throwing away. They can be very good media centers. I changed the cpu for a quad q6600. Added a r7 240 gpu and changed out HDD for a cheap SSD and the speed difference was amazing for the budget. Ran a lot of my steam library including fallout 4 with settings adjustment. I keep one on the ready if my main PC goes down for some reason.
These Dells have wonky power supplies, other than that they are great. Dell office workstations, HP office workstations and Lenovo office workstations are generally just really solid choices. Cool video, again :)
not really, they use business enterprise class parts,meaning they are made to last a long time and have industrial grade vrm's and capacitors.Now as for connectivity.Yes thats where they cheap out on them.But one of these motherboards is going to last you longer than a cheaper motherboard like an h310 or h61 board .As for the power supply, they just outright suck cause they are low wattage but if one of these machines ran a 80+ 500watt power supply I would trust it over an evga 80+ 500w power supply cause these are made to go the long distance
🙂 they aren't so bad, oem boards can be a lifesaver for alot of pc builders that are broke af, they are usually the cheapest boards on ebay and most noobs will shy away from buying them cause they don't know if they are transplant friendly, checkout 775 1156 1555 1150
lol i got one of these for my office and did exactly that - Stuck a Q8300 in it (£6.50 courtesy of CeX), a 120gb SSD (have a bunch lying around doing nothing), an extra 4GB RAM (£1.50 each from CeX for 8 total in a 4 x 2GB config) and a 4GB Nvidia GTX745 (again, thanks to a cockup by CeX where I got the 4GB variant instead of a 2GB one which I had actually paid for). Not exactly what I or anyone else would call amazing at gaming (can barely manage 720p low settings @30fps playing Forza Horizon 4), but it is perfect for office multitasking, and thanks to the 745 i run a dual monitor setup.
My current pc is running a I5-4690k, gtx 980, 16gb ddr3 @1600mhz and for those main components (including case, mobo, hard drive and a small 60gb ssd) only cost me £250! Incredibly happy with the performance for my money and they are still going strong today built the system nearly 2 years ago and it still has a good few more years left in it!
I just Recently got a used business notebook for 50 euro here in Germany including i3 dual core 4gb of ddr3. Just putted in a cheap ssd and this thing feels almost as snappy as new. You can find quite some nice deals if you look carefully! Thanks for your video as well!
I had exactly same setup 7 years ago (yes a gt210) and played all Prince of Persia games and OG GTA trilogy with hitman 2 and Spiderman 1,2 on it. Nice to see the same here. Love your videos.
I got a similar prebuilt with the i3-2120, threw in the GT710 and 8 gigs of ram. Eventually I upgraded to the GT1030 with the Psu limitations, but it plays games up to 2012 on high settings around 60fps
i was using mine as a emulator build with access to my plex library. Upgraded to a i5 3470 optiplex for better emulation still a sweet deal $80 for a 4 core system.
I once saw a deal for a core2quad tower with a gpu (forgot the name but I believe high end for the time it was built in), a monitor, a F-ing big wooden gaming table/desk (rate it 7/10) and everything for the setup for only 100$,damn I still regret not buying it. Ps:the desk alone is worth the 100
The only recommendation I can make in terms of Software is to install LibreOffice instead of Open Office Open Office is not maintained properly anymore and should be regarded as abandoned. LibreOffice is actively maintained and growing and also runs great on old machines.
socket 775 and AM3 are fun to mess around with. I got a PC store near my house and go dumpster diving there occasionally (the owner is cool with it). Currently using a Phenom II x4 and 270x. Upgrade these old systems a bit and for light gaming and everyday use they still work just fine.
Had a lady bring in an old dell inspiron with an e5400 processor and 4gb of ram asking for it to be upgraded to windows 10. it's actually surprising how snappy these old machines can be (all things considered). Especially once you disable animations and superfetch.
The GMA 965/945 has poorly ported drivers for Windows 10. The wddm version included in Windows works for light usage but everything with more DirectX usage was glitchy and problematic
I have the GMA 965. You can go to Windows Catalog download store and download the DirectX, OpenGL drivers for Vista/7 from there. Otherwise, no OpenGL support, and very poor DirectX performance. I have Win 10 64 PRO, and the drivers work great. I have an Intel T7400 paired along with it also with the max 4 GB of RAM the chipset supports. Not a bad system for being 13 years old. Good for web browsing, and very old gaming if you're curious.
The trick with these is is to find the ones with the i7 3770 in. 8 threads some have 16gb ram in. Pcie 3 and sata 3. However get the normal tower as the low profile stuff costs more in parts.
Great video. I'm still rocking an old Dell Studio PC, from around 2010? It had a Core 2 Quad. I've upgraded the RAM, put in a SATA SSD, and added a new power supply and a 660ti. Good enough for the community computer in our house and my daughter plays Sims 4 and other light weight games. I travel a lot, so I have a nice laptop for video and photo editing. But I may be doing budget build. (600-1k) for the family soon... Thanks for all of the videos and tips. Keep them coming.
there may be a latch to pul back in order to re-seat the side panel. IIRC, it may be built into the padlock loop (the piece f metal with a hole on chassis and panel). I work in IT repair, 20+ years now, these were pretty standard machines for the state of CT, and again iirc, that side panel needs a lever that is hidden as part of the mechanism for locking up the case.
Actually on that model it may be a piece of black plastic on the top or side (depending on orientation) of the machine that pushes in to allow the side panel to slide into place.
I might get myself one of these, would be a nice little emulation machine - maybe put in a gtx 750 ti low profile, a 2tb external hard drive full of roms from Atari 2600 to PS1 and Dreamcast, a cheap wired PS3 controller; all of which I've already got laying about and I'm all set to stave off boredom during the inevitable forthcoming second lockdown. For around the £50 mark this is an absolute bargain! 😀👍
my xps 420 is still going strong!! i played Alien Isolation on it with an upgrade a Q9650, 8gb ram 800 mhz, and a gtx 660ti! 500gb SSD, oh and psu 550watts 80+ bronze
These Dell business PCs last forever too. We use them at work and they have to live in some hideous environments but they keep on truckin'. Specifically the Optiplex XE models, you can throw them out of a moving bus, dust it off, and it would be fine.
The gt 710 Would be ideal for this kind of a PC in combination with a Core 2 duo 8600 this PC is perfect for Games That run on 2 Cores like Call of Duty Black ops 2 or bf3
You could try using the NVIDIA GeForce GT 710 it supports DirectX: 12 I have the MSI version in my older spare computer that's from 2008 and still going strong(Dell Optiplex 780 MT with 16GB memory 500GB SSD, Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Windows 10 pro great computer for it's age)
Good thing u can play REALLY old games like quake 3, portal or half life 1 or 2 on low settings. The 75hz on the monitor is a good Thing. I just don’t know what FPS u will get in CSGO. Also put a C2Q in for better Performance.
Upgrade path for this Bios update first Core 2 quad 8gb ddr3 Ssd And the PSU and board will kinda support a gt1030, GTX1050 or GTX1050Ti (LP) Maybe if you can find the space in the box a larger storage HDD Bit overkill for kit this old but will probably be a good eSports or minecraft pc for an eager first computer jobby
Should try and drop in a Radeon HD 6450 which would be just about the best card that should work in a 25w max slot. Costs around 11 bucks on ebay and would be interesting to see what it does.
Not bad at all, especially that it has a mouse, keyboard and monitor included, and a wi-fi adapter :) That was probably an older Wi-Fi 802.11n 2.4GHz only adapter (I have a few myself) which is fine for most things. Of course if you want the best performance and don't want Ethernet, use a PCI card, not that you'll fit one in that case! The mouse looked to be a modern HP (my university has loads of those HP laser mice) but I'm not liking the Windows XP based clunky keyboard! That would have to go. And the legacy Dell monitor? Ok for the basics. Not my preferred type of monitor (not widescreen), but it'll do :) Good deal for £50 there, and can't believe the GT210 came in handy :D
I simply love how this guy is extremly chilly. Like, hey guys I bought a PC for 50 pounds let's play some half life. And he's having fun with game bugs on bad graphics. You can see how clean his person is just by that. Maybe he's having some seagull addiction but I could live with that.
I would like to see you upgrade this PC to show everyone how cheap it can be. I have this exact same and it supports core 2 quads. I replaced mine with a q6600, more ram, an ssd and a small form factor gpu
Nice Video, i bought a cheap full setup as well the last month for 80€. I got a Intel i3 2100 with a decent Msi mobo, with 4gb of DDR3, 500W Discutible PSU brand, Ati hd 5450, 500gb HDD and 60gb ssd, PCI-E Wifi Card with a crappy bluethoot usb reciver, mouse + keyboard and a LG 22'' Led Monitor. Oh and all in a nice Cooler Master Case with 120'' fan included in the case. That was hilarius since the seller discount me 10-15€ without say nothing to him and looks very relieved after sell it. I haven't so much experience with used stuff and craiglist, initially i think he is gonna scam me but the setup after some cleaning and maintenance works well. It's nice to be lucky sometimes and find decent deals like UK and US RU-vidrs. In my country the same pc only (same parts used/refurbished) cost easily almost 200€.
I have one of these pc's and you have to lift the little latch thing on top in order for the panel to go back on. The same latch release you had to pull to get the panel off...learned the hard way.
This was my exact PC until a few months ago. All I had to do was swap in a quad core processor, eight gigs of ram, and an old 1 gig 9800 GT and it ran most games up until a few years ago just fine. All told the set up cost me about $85 and served me well for about five years while I was low on cash.
This machine actually had a deeper upgrade path thanks to the spare parts aftermarket. Boards from the 760/960 give you a q45 chipset with DDR2 support (8GB max), the 780 gives you a q45 chipset and DDR3 support (16GB max), and the 980 is a soclet 1156 board that is a direct fit and supports 16GB of DDR3. I don’t remember on the 760, but the 780 board and 980 I have both support up to 75 watt cards (my 980 has a Radeon R7 250 in it). I’d offer my 780 board and a e6700 Pentium Dual Core (3.2 GHz) for the cost of shipping if you ever wanted to do a video about upgrading one of these.
You should totally throw a low profile AMD Firepro W2100 in there (if you can find a cheap used one). 26 watt max (supposedly) should work... you could always underclock it slightly just to make sure it doesn't pull too much. But it's 2GB ram, DirectX 12, actual modern drivers.
They really should be putting LibreOffice on it rather than OpenOffice as it just has the edge in features, is updated more often, has an extra charts program, and looks a little more modern.
Got this for my son's first pc with a Q9650 + gt 1030 with 8gb of Ram, it was legendary for years and was only upgraded for the newer games and modern emulators in need of the Avx instructions.
Nice to see that everything had been set up for you… So very convenient… While I'm thinking are you crazy? Yes someone else set this up which means it could have hidden malware! She doesn't sound like a safe experience at all. I would not connect something like this to my network at all because who knows what it's doing in the background. If I was going to be this frugal I would at least remove the HDD and replace it with a brand-new store-bought one to make certain it never had anything on it to begin with
That's a pivot Monitor, I had one in a smaller size (I think it was 15" and 1024x768) - the advantage is that for full page view of PDFs, you can get a larger and more detailed display by pivoting and using the Windows rotate key shortcuts
@@popcapk5536 alot of those going around to try and con the parents and shit they have a pentium or some 1st gen ryzen with 8gb of ram a 256gb hdd and some offhand motherboard and it's labelled "gaming pc"at around 400pounds it's a bit ridiculous considering you can buy all of those parts for less than 200
I have the same pc as htpc/lan pc Windows 10 without a SSD in pain in the ***. Instead of a dualcore I used a Q6600 and overclocked it to 3,0Ghz. You have to tape same pins to increase the fsb. The PCI-E slot isn't only 25 watt. I used a HD6670, which use 65 Watt something. It run's perfectly fine.
About that 25W PCIe limit - I've read somewhere that it's related to add-in cards other than GPUs and you can put one in safely. I've yet to test that on my HP dc5800 which also has this printed on the MB, but so far 8600GT wasn't giving any issues.
