I bought the forgotten Apple Xserve in 2018 

That's how I'd say it. Liked the video man!

Luke Miani loved the video & oh my gosh the race cars Rhan Stahpppp 😂🤣🤣

No there’s literally one pronunciation lol

X Serve. not EGG serve. pronounced EX SERVE :D

Completely agree with Joshua here. you're effectively taking a tractor and complaining that it's not a car. of course it isn't this was completely designed for a different market. while it may not be a market you think that apple's standard users were a part of, most media workplaces have a server rack in the cupboard somewhere, so the concept of adding apple servers individually for rendering/encoding or in an array together to handle distributed tasks was not an uncommon thing. Just because these products may not apply to a home user, does not mean that they would not apply to a company using these. for a large scale media company that does a lot of work on mac hardware for clients, dropping 50k on an extended support plan wouldn't be an issue, and buying extra parts? i have spare parts in the cupboard for my workstation, and i'm in charge of restocking the replacement parts at work. we go through them reasonably fast, because when you have hardware on 24/7, failures happen. and as a company, you want to get that hardware back up and online and earning you money ASAP. I understand what you were trying to do here, but please, don't buy a 1U server, complain about the noise, form factor and usecase when you seem to have literally missed the entire point of the device.

Dana Vixen everyone LOL, even NEW 2018 servers are loud they need to be cool or else the dam sites goes down or the employee file server and you got angry employees on a down server for overheating

I think you didn't understand the sarcasm

WHAT?! I CANT READ WHAT YOU WROTE!

The 2019 Mac pro Server is quiet. just like the 2010 Mac Pro server edition

@@Etienne_H Context. He's talking about 1U servers which are loud regardless of when they were made. The 2019 server is 4U and the 2010 if I remember correctly was just a desktop chasis.

Its a server it’s supposed to be loud -_-

Its not used as a normal computer its to store stuff so its for big files

He indeed profited.

Too bad he doesn't understand what servers are used for

iNFiNiTY Too bad you didn't understand the point of the video

@@lukemiani reviewing something not for its intended purpose? So you can make money. I guess right on, but a video is much simipler to understand than servers. You called the ethernet lan interfaces hubs. You didnt mention the ECC/REG ram Hahaha I rather understand servers than your all over the place content. Insted of fighting your viewers take the criticism and learn how to better your self and content. Cuz your prodution quality is great and with a little more experience your videos will be amazing. I mean really think about it pretty much all the criticism you're getting is the exact same maybe you should take note of that.. Message me ill teach you how to do really cool stuff with that server.

@@iNFiNiTY125 Not sure how this guy got in my recommended vids but he should stick to reviewing lightning to headphone adapters...

Well but in terms of depths there a servers that are quite half the size. Maybe he meant it that way?

HPE DL580* ;) Try a c7k Apollo 6k server, now that's a beast.

depends on the model jec6613, but yeah, generally the 6k servers were huge as fuck lol. not as big of a footprint of a M1000E though.

To be fair the system is like 30-something inches front to back which is a little longer then most but still it's very compact for what it is

It's comparable to a DL360 G5, its rough contemporary, in size and CPU power. The DL360 could own in in I/O though.

No shit

Duh

Doesn't change the fact that it's loud and impractical for 99.99% of people out there, lmao. Didn't expect "server sheep" under this video.

@@d.p1826 Server sheep need to touch grass.

@@utubekullanicisi uh if you're not the person who would buy one is it valid to bash others for buying one for their own home?

Here, here. well said. I know a lot of IT depts running dual Mac minis in rack mount chassis for the same reason. The difference of course is you are not getting Xeon CPUs and ECC memory going down that path. I do miss the XServe and the simplicity it brings to a network with Macs.

That’s not what he said at all, he said he knows it’s not meant for him and in the first few minutes said why, but that he wanted to make a video about it if you were considering the Xeons inside. If anything this video shows why it’s silly to think of it that way, but for you and the rest of the nerds that have selective hearing because you’re taught by your shitty employers how to cut corners... well, you’re gonna see it as a server video that was made wrong. I’m facepalming at all of your comments about how he did the video wrong.

Antonio Tejada nic cards

Look at you! You deserve a cookie for condescendingly explaining something to a youtuber!

Network Interface Card Cards

Who gives a fuck if they are a youtuber.

A snarky name. What was snarky about his response? Ethernet hubs haven’t even been a thing since the early 90s.

Uhhh, no? It won't? Lol, first Gen i7 were not power hungry at all. What are you on?

Kevin Collins power hungry is nothing for a business lol, for home yea good luck but for a business it won’t matter for them

where do you see a first gen i7? it's first gen Xeon, times 2. what are you on nexxusty?

@@DecibelAlex it's nahalem, it's basically a rebranded dual x58

He said from the start that he didn't have experience with servers and was approaching it as a desktop/workstation computer.

Maybe for people like me looking at state surplus sales and seeing a pair of 2010s for $20.

Darimonde then he should study it or ask an expert before made this video.

"Hey guys, I'll tell you how this video is a bit silly and from the wrong perspective in the beginning. But I dont know why, you'll forget and comment anyway!"

g9icy i think it can run el capitan

Officially the 2009 Xserve goes up to El Capitan, however if you use DosDude1’s install patch you can unofficially run Mojave if you also have a gpu that supports metal My 08 runs high Sierra like it shipped with it so honestly I’d say if you go patch route it’ll last another update or so...maybe Also yeah “Macs Fan Control” lets you adjust the fans in the Xserve

sadly ElCapitan

what about the 2010 one

2009 model ran until 2011 when it was discontinued, so 2009 Xserve was the last version to be released, 2010 was just the year they announced it would be discontinued in 2011. Same as 2009 model in that it caps at El Capitan

Stop wasting your money and just buy the 10serve XS Max Fusion Proglide. Problem solved. Although I would skimp on the support though.

Jack Kraken Ah yes, and dont forget to include the HD Micro Razor Liquid Super Retina display as well

Forrest Gump don’t forget about the max max pro lite x 10 s se upgrade 🤦 you can’t forget that

Jonathan Schober Totally. “I want a powerful car so I got this excavator, cuz it was super cheap, but I don’t understand why they marketed it totally on nerdy specs like bucket size and horsepower. I got it home and it’s just totally impractical for driving to and from soccer practice with the kid. Fail.”

I swear this comment I couldn't agree with more.

This is like i don't know what I'm doing but I'll pull off a video no matter what

Relax my guy take a breather

Jonathan Schober also he mentioned it's impractical for most of the consumers, but ... no? most people who buy this, won't buy it to watch silly videos on RU-vid, because hello this thing is not made for that. it's meant to be sitting somewhere in a metal trolley closet in a room full of other servers so noise and everything don't matter, it's supposed to be practical. it's exactly what people who bought this, needed. he made it seem like it was a regular computer. you're not taking your desktop to class and complain how impractical it is because that's not what it was designed for lol

BrainstormCrib its a dang server

Bet he hasen't watched ltt yet

I laughed at that point as well :)

Even the loud fans won´t keep this Xserve cool... I guess.

Yeah but fortunately we live in 2020 not in 90s so we good

90s kid here, felt that lol

For that money he would be better buying another server.

@@abcdefg9613 ECC RAM is cheap currently, although the X5690 is overpriced and MXM cards are mega inflated

@@fxckrio What I meant was a non apple server which can run osx in any flavor. Those systems don't need mxm gpus.

You can't put 6c cpus in the xserve

1st person to post what a good (quieter and inexpensive) fan replacement would be will probably get at least 100 upvotes ;-)

iPhoOOne

the way he says it is grating.... ughhhhh

I understand your point but how many people have you seen with a 1U unit on their desk in a production environment? I’ll bet zero. When you bore down into the specs, it’s not even close to a workstation. Nice video though. It was gutsy to get one and set it up with little server knowledge.

Home use in a mudroom or laundry room or garage with a cabinet with a small switch and Xserve Raid attached to it with a UPS is an awesome plex and NAS server still. Xserve Raid can be converted over to SATA. Enterprise-class with redundancy. I love my Mac Pro 5,1, but it's not a true way to use it for NAS. Redundancy is crucial for data. Xserve is a cheap way to add advance home network.

love your videos by the way :) know this is an old comment but def deservers more attention xD

@@TheSinnKidsOfficial :)

druaga3 here

Miani1 here

GT 420 😅😅😅😅

AlphaFox78 Probably Simone Giertz’s breakfast robot! :p

Should be EX-serve as in X-code, not as in ex-CEL. Accent should be on first syllable.

@@RichardSchletty Exactly. Too bad no research was done. It underscored just how out of place he was to review this on yo-U-TUB-ee

​@@samifouad Now if he had called it a TenServe, the post would immediately self-destructed (Mission Impossible style). Here's the deal. I purchased an 1.33GHz PowerPC G4 Xserve in June of 2003 for $2,951 (excluding keyboard and mouse) for a private grade school, set it up myself, and administered it for about 5 years. It came with Mac OS X Server version 10.3, Unlimited License. It was very noisy. After we retired the Xserve, I purchased it from the school for $100 and brought it home to squeeze more life out of it. I used it as a LAN and web server for my solopreneur graphic design business. After a while, it started shutting down frequently. Might have been Spotlight indexing overload. Still not sure. I booted it up a few months ago and got some old files off of it. It never was at all practical as a direct production machine. TOO LOUD! Only good as a LAN and web server. This is from chapter 1 of "Mac OS X Server Getting Started": Mac OS X Server addresses the needs of many environments. This chapter offers a brief graphical tour that highlights services and configurations of special interest in some popular scenarios: • Enterprise organizations • Higher-education facilities • K-12 labs and classrooms • Small and medium businesses • Computational clustering • Creative businesses • Web service providers Here are the features listed in the user manual that came with our Xserve. Introducing Xserve Congratulations on purchasing your new server. This product is designed to be mounted in a rack. Once the server is installed in the rack, an administrator or other user can slide it open from the front to exchange or add components. Among the distinctive hardware features of the server are: • one or two G4 processors with minimum operating speed of 1 gigahertz (GHz), with 256 kilobytes (K) of level 2 cache and 2 megabytes (MB) of double-data-rate (DDR) backside L3 cache • up to 2 gigabytes (GB) of DDR Synchronous Dynamic Random-Access Memory (SDRAM) • system bus speed 133 megahertz (MHz) (at minimum) • four Apple Drive Module bays, supporting up to four hot-pluggable ATA 100 hard disks, accessible from the front, with status and activity lights • front panel with CD-ROM drive; LED status lights; power and system identifier buttons and lights; FireWire port; and security lock for the enclosure • back panel with one or two gigabit Ethernet ports (auto-negotiating 10/100/1000 megabits per second); two FireWire ports; two USB ports; serial port that supports RS-232 or RS-422 connection; and VGA monitor connection • cable-management arm to allow the unit to be opened without disconnecting cables • two internal expansion slots for PCI cards and one combination slot for either a PCI or an AGP card • fault-sensing operation, with sensors to detect internal temperature, blower status or failure, power status or failure, and open enclosure Among the services offered by Mac OS X Server, included with the standard configuration, are: • file and print services for Macintosh, Windows, and UNIX® clients • high-performance Apache Web server, with integrated WebDAV and SSL • World Wide Web application deployment platform • QuickTime Streaming Server • IP filtering, DHCP, DNS, and SLP networking services • directory services • mail service • Macintosh Management service • NetBoot server for Macintosh client computers that can start up from a server • tools for remote server configuration and monitoring

Weetabixs JNR yea its obviously xserve (10-serve) 😂😂😂

EKS-SERVE Yeah, it’s weird how he says it.

first thought was “douchebag” when i heard him say it.

TPIKA 108 No, it’s not “ten serve”, it’s “EX-serve”. But yeah, his weird “ex-ERVE” pronunciation, rhyming it with “observe”, is just odd.

Antonio Tejada ik it was a joke

You don't realize that some home and office users don't use these machines in their work spaces, ever heard of a closest before?

Spotlightsrule I have a 2 42u racks at home, I own a crap tone of servers for daily use my website and for my business phones plex, smart home, also to bragging rights hehe

Its not worth, like, 150 bucks and some elbow grease? Even if its underpowered and finding a use would be hard, if you did have something for it to do, that seems like a good price.

IBM system x 3550 M4 now that’s some good shit

Underrated comment

Lmfao! 🤣😂

Lol, no. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Matthias Wagner uhh you business won’t care of power use they care what the server can handle, A SERVER IS NOT MENT FOR HOME USE. Their loud they are power hungry, power consumption won’t matter for business since their running power hungry devices

I assure you, power consumption matters on servers. A full rack of equipment can run 500 kwh per day pretty easily - a 10% improvement on that can be $1000 per month, and it also means a smaller UPS, smaller A/C (so even less power still), and smaller generator. Yes, service availability matters more, but power consumption is still a hot topic in the datacenter.

Dude you're everywhere.

Bigtime cringe.

jsadamcik Right? “Waaah, this enterprise server makes a lousy desktop, what was Apple thinking? Even the tech specs are full of so much technical mumbo jumbo.”

Antonio Tejada I mean I’m not trying to hate on him, I usually like his content, but I feel like we consumers should be pushing Apple to get back into the professional market. It would ultimately make consumer experiences better.

jsadamcik agree with your comment just like dell they have consumers grade computers and business grade equipment all mixed, that’s what apple should go for but physical copy dell but start like that

I get it :)

same

Jeffrey Bodenstein Yup. “I needed to bake bread, so I bought this blast furnace. Too loud and it burned down my kitchen. Two stars.”

Bressan Franco Bullcrap. Just because a Mac Pro has *quiet* cooling doesn’t mean it’s insufficient.

In 4k

Stick a Quadro or Firepro in there. It should run Crysis very well.

Crispin honestly that isn’t that many for a 10 min video