I can't even defend 1.16 

"if everything is meta, then nothing will be" - vetex

Nimbus sea is way too big considering how few islands are in it. When it first came out I was like “this map is tiny” till I realised Sameria was like 5km and only in the middle

Wildest first sentence to a video

Man. Everyone be shitting on Vetex. NOW I'm not gonna bring up he's a solo dev and whatever, but yall gotta understand how all over the place he is rn 😭

"sit down" dies immediately after

I actually had some problem with the wolves bandits, those keraxe vikings were even easier.

wait til he finds out about dense halbred tempest

Im sad that my teal lightning paladin now constantly has gold/yellow in it. I personally dont like that color scheme. I wish paladin would just have blue spirit energy. I am considering to just swap builds since im not willing to reset my WoM build nor change the magic even if I could. They should give the option of changing the colour sheme between a set of colours so you can make any build not look bad. Dont get me wrong, I do like the idea of the personality of the character affecting the spirit energy and lore being attached to it, but I do want my builds to look visually appealing too.

Next Story Chapter- Arrive in Skyhall. The Island is under attack and destroyed!! Talking to 2 NPC's fight 2 enemies Chapter Over. (Also the update is gonna take 3 months to release)

Basiclly this update i came back on my warrior slot from so long to try the new changes until i saw so many people start hating the class from a troll class to the most hated ouch-

Main complaint i got from this update is the speed nerf which is *way too* drastic since casting speed tresholds are now *doubled* in requirement That and also paladin spirit aura Man i wanted my teal QvQ Had to swtich to a paladin-like savant cuz the gold aura does not fit at all with moonlight it looks that bad lol

bruh this game's op build simulator now

ITS ARCANE OVER

Shit, I used to play warrior cause it was trash back then but now I gotta play another class to actually know that killing a hard opponent is a sign of skill

absolutely insane opening line but W vid

tbh as a conj I aint changing my class, I am a loyal lighting conj and will always be!

My light imbued flying phoenix with kai sabre speed is even slower than non imbued 😭🙏 Like are they tested it before they even release? And for some reason, earth imbued speed is somehow faster..??

I think that vitality bonus dmg with awakening works, but less than intended, I have a 117 power glass paladin and my smallest size double beam only does 240

The reason vitality builds are so good now is bc eagle patrimony adds lightning so water paladin and fighting styles that do bleed or soaked and swords get free synergies so ye thats probably why vitality builds are so good now the only downside is that u take dmg from using spells but if u can finish a fight quickly it wont even matter

I don't understand, is testing that hard or confusing that these go unnoticed or is it a decision to let it in the game with these stuff because there was no time?

bruh im just chillin dawg the next story update seems cool

"I think this calls for nerfs to attack speed and thermo fist heat" - balance team

I heard attack speed will be fixed in the next trello is that true?

I dont pvp in arcane i just mess around and make builds while doing pve but VETEX WHERE IS THE PURE VITALITY BUILD the games been out for like a YEAR

Yeah, balance is a mess, but it’ll be fixed. Weapon customization is getting a balance overhaul that wasn’t added before the update, so while they’ll still have tons of skills it’ll be manageable

I have to say, you are wrong with the vitality imbues not working, i've been playing knight and 140 damage with 70 power is crazy, im doing 200 with 77, and vitality imbues do give their respective damage and size buffs on both jugg and knight, i havent done much with paladin so i dont know the case there

Bro sold the balancing so badly

Me seeing the metal mage literally eat your HP in 2 seconda at the start with surge at 0:36 : 👁👄👁

i have no words for 1.16

*Insane intro*

For me the attack speed nerfs made me the most mad. Everyone celebrates it because of 300 speed turret mages getting nerfed, but I and a few of my friends used to use like 525 attack speed builds that had insta cast, which sounds broken, and it was really good, but the instant cast builds had genuine counterplay and, while they could do a lot of damage with 20 blasts and beams, all other stats would be at a huge deficit. we've reached a point where having 100 size is comparable to having 400 attack speed and it just isn't fair. I get that the casting speed nerf was fixing a bug but the game genuinely felt like it had more build variety despite size becoming more and more oppressive, since attack speed was actually usable - it should've been nerfed around the 300 attack speed range, not all the way up at 500 where there's a bigger stat sacrifice for using it. I've been forced to become a size snow mage and I hate using it - it's really slow, and all the techniques and movement quirks I'd trained throughout nimbus went completely wasted as a result. Yeah, I'm coping, you can laugh if you want, but if attack speed stays in this hole of total unviability I'll eventually just give up with ao. Size is just gonna get better and better, and there's nothing I can do about it. I can't even join the masses in the aoe meta because I don't enjoy using size builds.

note from vetex(to also force a change): "Also big to all the toxic, complaining, doomposting PvPers in this community. I know most of the people I'm talking about probably won't read this (because they tend to not read things and then complain about stuff out of their own ignorance) but you know who you are. I despise this portion of the community and frankly I would remove PvP entirely if it wouldn't kill the game, but Roblox games like this can't survive without PvP so it has to have it. It's astounding how much more toxic the Roblox community is nowadays compared to years ago, even when I spend a week doing community balance changes there are still people complaining about some small insignificant thing that will just be fixed in a hotfix or whatever. I barely even interact with the community anymore due to how toxic Roblox has gotten. Even youtubers make entire videos spreading false information or assumptions on topics they are completely ignorant about. Here's the truth: this game will NEVER have combat focused updates and the fact that there is more than a weeks worth of balancing changes to do every update is ridiculous and takes away from new content the game could be getting, and is simply unrealistic to be expected to be 100% done every single update. I would rather work on aspects of the game that everyone likes rather than weird behaviors that don't affect 90% of the playerbase, and yet we hear "this game is doomed" whenever the most insignificant things on the balance doc are skipped. If you don't like the fact the game is not getting combat focused updates then leave, the game would be a better place without these toxic people And as for the "testers bad! I would be a way better tester!" people, no you would not. Even if the game had 300 active testers, there would still be bugs that make it into each update and you would still complain. There is simply no way to catch every single bug before every update, and this doesn't even matter considering the actual game breaking ones are fixed less than a week after updates anyways. I don't owe anyone anything, and you playing my game doesn't entitle you to anything either. I do enough of the balance doc every update to make sure the game is stable and yet every single update, without fail, there are entire channels of people complaining and crying to the point of the public balance discord's general chat having to be closed down. No matter how much you complain I am not changing my update routine to appease you because I despise players like you. I already do more for these players in each update than I would like to." #1: "Also big to all the toxic, complaining, doomposting PvPers in this community. I know most of the people I'm talking about probably won't read this (because they tend to not read things and then complain about stuff out of their own ignorance) but you know who you are. I despise this portion of the community and frankly I would remove PvP entirely if it wouldn't kill the game, but Roblox games like this can't survive without PvP so it has to have it. It's astounding how much more toxic the Roblox community is nowadays compared to years ago, even when I spend a week doing community balance changes there are still people complaining about some small insignificant thing that will just be fixed in a hotfix or whatever. " You despise them cause you know most of them are correct. If you want to remove pvp then remove it cause it wont change the game. Sure the PVPers will leave but games like this survives with no pvp. I can give many examples and a prime example is SOL RNG Horse valley dragon adventures just to name a few. The community grows more and more toxic as you become a worse and worse dev. when you balance things you end up nerfing things soo much that you end up hurting other classes. For example nerf mages then you hurt all classes with magic. nerf berserker then you hurt all classes with fighting styles. Nerf warrior then you hurt all melee based classes. Hell the game wouldnt be filled with bugs if you actually had your testers test thing instead of goofing off in elysium and call that testing. #2: "I barely even interact with the community anymore due to how toxic Roblox has gotten. Even youtubers make entire videos spreading false information or assumptions on topics they are completely ignorant about." #2: Yea I understand cause you are facing against a group of people instead of a person who represents everyone which causes you to become stressed. Though the youtubers have been more straight forward on the game's direction. You may not be able to see how much the game fallen but the community can. No wonder we used to have like 20K+ reoccurring players? but now a measly 3k. totally the PVPers that causes it not all the nerfing and consistent avoidance from the community. #3: "Here's the truth: this game will NEVER have combat focused updates and the fact that there is more than a weeks worth of balancing changes to do every update is ridiculous and takes away from new content the game could be getting, and is simply unrealistic to be expected to be 100% done every single update. I would rather work on aspects of the game that everyone likes rather than weird behaviors that don't affect 90% of the playerbase, and yet we hear "this game is doomed" whenever the most insignificant things on the balance doc are skipped. If you don't like the fact the game is not getting combat focused updates then leave, the game would be a better place without these toxic people" #3: the game is based off of combat. If it werent then it would be like fishing simulator. Knowing that we have to fish for hours for some good gear. Again perhaps instead of balancing you should try to buff more of the specific class instead of affecting all classes. As a person who dont like Pvp much I can see the game crumbling under you as you continue trying to build upon the fragile foundation. the only reason your game have not fallen yet is cause of these said "toxic players" that rejoins to play and have fun just to find out you nerfed everything again and force them to find a new way to deal damage. Hell you nerfed everyone soo badly kind calvus gotten harder to kill by 10 times. I used to be able to kill him in 5-7 hits cause i go for a glass cannon build. #4: "And as for the "testers bad! I would be a way better tester!" people, no you would not. Even if the game had 300 active testers, there would still be bugs that make it into each update and you would still complain. There is simply no way to catch every single bug before every update, and this doesn't even matter considering the actual game breaking ones are fixed less than a week after updates anyways." #4: if your testers actually tested the game then your game would not be soo broken. Instead you and your testers just play in elysium. You cherry picked your testers. #5: "I don't owe anyone anything, and you playing my game doesn't entitle you to anything either. I do enough of the balance doc every update to make sure the game is stable and yet every single update, without fail, there are entire channels of people complaining and crying to the point of the public balance discord's general chat having to be closed down. " #5: Sure ya dont owe us a thing but as a dev you gotta understand that once you lose a player base it will be really hard to get some back if any at all. Look at world of magic. The game you abandoned. It still got a few players cause they enjoy it but if you cause them to leave then guess what? it will be a whole battle sails and riv situation. A good game that fell cause of a bad dev #6:"No matter how much you complain I am not changing my update routine to appease you because I despise players like you. I already do more for these players in each update than I would like to." #6: One good example of why you should listen to the community: "helldivers 2 community vs sony: Helldiver's rebellion" not good enough? "warthunder boycott 16th of May 2023" the players and the community has a lot of power over the game. People despise devs that are soo stubborn that they cant see the foundation they stand upon. One good way to force vetex to change his mind and make better updates is to down vote the game and boycott it.

Im a warrior main and im happy that i can fight other classes on a even ground now

dude i just wonder what the playtesters be doing bro there r so many things in this game that r just like... horrible

Vetex needs to lock in next update with actual bug fixes and good balance changes

just fix the fucking lag issue

I 100% agree,i bet i could balance myself better this is ass

What's wrong with agility?

Me who still hasn't gotten my Kai Sabre back bc of wipe and shit rng: :(

bro story was a joke. i did it with my warlord. it took me 70 second excluding sailing. i one tapped all the enemy so there was nothing. took me 4 minute with sailing

canonical warlord size proof is Argos.

not even worth it loggin in to the try the update lmao, instantly getting ganked by size abusers

arcane to vetex is what minors are to you 💔

Y’all just don’t leave the guy alone.

YOU FORGET, THEY WANT TO BUFF AOE AGAIN, Metapoly is the one that keeps pushing for the nerf of atk spd and buff of atk size, Ive fought him, its no wonder he wants skillless, brainless play to be meta

We need to replace vetex please.

Only thing that is fucking wrong with this update is bunch of abilities for warriors

The rat gif

W uppdate

arcane odyssey is meant to be a aoe game

once again, the story is cutscene heavy with little to no actual gameplay

Sounds like a skill issue ngl

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

womp womp stop whining get good

Just quit the game like me n other top pvpers did bro. Vetex has killed his game and NOTHING will fix it because it will always be a cycle of one thing being more broken than something else because everyone on the balance team are sped. AO is cooked and it’s time to stop huffing the copium