I Cracked Rare BGS Graded Cards And Sent Them To PSA-Was It Worth It? 

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I agree with this too, I've been still buying BGS slabs. All these things are cyclical as long as the grading company is still around.

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What’s your experience like cracking Bgs 9 to PSA 10s? Love your content btw!! One of the best in the business.

vintage was made for the Tux

In a related note, I've noticed when crossing over vintage from BGS/BVG to PSA the grades typically slide....I think Beckett historically over graded the vintage, so buyer beware.

sgc gets plenty of love and promotion on youtube , The MJ does it have subgrades? your answer might be in the subgrades

I think sgc is already grading more than bgs in sports cards.

I really do like the look of SGC slabs.

agree if im holding why risk the crack n damaging the card

The BGS 9.5 currently sells for more at around 800-1000 the psa 9 goes for around 650-700. I thought about trying to straight crossover it at first, but the odds of success on those are so low that I wanted to try it this way. This was just a test run for if I wanted to do it again.

@@scottiebcards2354 I've opted for crossover to at least give me a shot at not losing my value of a true gem vs. psa 9 ~ I have gotten the rejection and then cracked it out to get the PSA 10 as well. (in that case it took like 6 months) ~ I get your way of thinking though.... its tragic to think PSA would intentionally disrespect the BGS true gem enough to just reject it without judging the cards merits.... IF that occurs which many believe does.

Any takeaways?

@@KyboneI would say with almost certainty that all the SGC 9s I crossed to PSA got 9s. About 35% of the 9.5s got a bump to a 10, the other 65% got the PSA 9. And among the SGC 10s I crossed, about half crossed over to a PSA 10, the other half got a PSA 9. And as far as sample size goes, it was about 15 cards total.

I think BGS 10 is still a more valuable and important card, but just like BGS 9.5 losing value compared to a PSA 10, we are starting to see the gap between BGS 10 and PSA 10 shrink as well. I still would go with the BGS 10 myself!

There is a good chance of it.. but I will probably just leave it how it is for now. thanks for watching!

yep

Not true, unless they have updated their practices. A few years ago, PSA mentioned that they had to crack the card out of it's holder to accurately assess the cards; that's where the risk factor kicked in; I kept my cards in the slabs...

@@robdemare8250 Right, but if you specify the minimum grade you’ll accept for crossover they will not crack it if they cannot assign that grade from assessing card in the slab. If a minimum grade is not requested then they will crack it and you get what you get

You can resubmit !

i dont think its worth it to crack your true gem, Psa is so unpredictable its not a guarenteed psa 10 at all unless ya plan on selling it soon and trying to get top value but its a 3-$400 card your not gonna gain or lose that much after shipping n grading fees just my opinion

If you send it in to PSA and set the minimum grade at a 10 then they’ll either give it a PSA 10 or send you back the card in the BGS holder. You’re just out the grading fee but would still retain the exact card you sent in. Not sure about current crossover pricing as they’ve lowered the declared max value price to $500.

@@jazzkidjk the minimum grade is a good feature but your still out your true gem, if thats the case your next best move would be to resend to psa untill it comes back a 10

Source?

same! csg accurate n consistent with an awesome slab, hopefully they will make some power moves to in years to come and take a big chunk of psa's market share

It’s the basic supply and demand problem at play. Pandemic hits = people stuck indoors - find old/new hobbies - demand skyrockets because people have a ton of spare time - prices go up. Pandemic ends and people return to their old hobbies - the ones that stay repopulate the supply by getting cards graded/buying and selling online. Prices tank because supply is up and demand is lower than 2020. It’s not just cards, stocks are down, entertainment is down and inflation is high (partially paying for the pandemic). It’s a good time to be in the hobby tbh, prices got stupid for no reason and dozens of YT channels popped up claiming to be mega collectors the whole time when they hadn’t been. The real surge was after Logan Paul’s PR on a Charizard card - where’s he now?

You mean csg

I did that twice because I had the same rationale as you did....twice the card got returned as min grade. I cracked out both and sent back to PSA...both came back 10s. I know different graders have different criteria, but I think if PSA converts too many BGS 9.5s to PSA 10s, they're essentially saying those grades are equal which I'm sure PSA doesn't believe so. Also, I have a bunch of big cards that I would love to cross, but because of PSAs value tiers, it would cost over a 1000 dollars to do each one, way too risky for me.

Totally agree with this, especially when you're working with BGS 9.5 true gem mint. I've had BGS 9's come back as 8's and but the only times I've sent in the 9.5s, they've come back as a 10, provided all the subgrades were also 9.5's. I also don't like cracking the cards myself. I just do the cross-over. As long as I feel confident that the card has a near flawless look and is correctly assessed by BGS, I see no reason why PSA would want to downgrade it to "control the population". All this conjecture about PSA doing population control is just sour grapes because their cards didn't grade out at a 10. There is no conspiracy here, they're just grading the cards. Are they holding a higher standard today? Perhaps. Is it difficult to tell the difference between a 9 and 10? Yes. Does it matter to collectors? Probably not. Does it matter to investors and flippers and dealers? Hell yes. But a 10 has to be scarce and difficult, otherwise, every card would be a Gem Mint 10, and then why bother even grading cards. For me, it's about being able to protect my collection and enjoy showing my cards off. But who doesn't love a PSA 10 right?

I wouldnt crack a jordan or brady bgs true gem n send to psa, I dont think its a conspiracy I think the graders themselves are collectors and they try to control pop on those 2 players for the most part especially Jordan.. psa crushes highend jordans!! however with other players sending them with the 10 minimum grade is a good idea

Wow, that is awesome! Congrats. If you are interested in trading the Betts please let me know as I would love to move into a blue 😀

I like how you let us know that a 9 is .5 away from a 9.5 How far away is a 9 from a 10?

I don't need to imagine... I lived it 😉. You win some and you lose some. The crazy part is the value between a PSA 9 and BGS 9.5 isn't as big as it used to be so I do not feel too bad. Thanks for watching.

@@scottiebcards2354 crack it again, give it a micro wipe and a day in a no recess screw down, PSA loves that stuff 10's galore

Thank God there is someone who thinks along the lines as I do. PSA is junk t me. As a side note CSG is probably going to be the grading company to get into. They have made drastic changes to their company and they will be a strong force to be reckoned with in the future.

I have absolutely no love or affiliation for/with PSA. I believe they are probably the most corrupt grading company out there. They cater to their “Sheeple” as that one guy says a few comments before me. CSG is a grading company to get into. They are going to be making some noise in the very near future if they haven’t already. Everyone makes pointless comments about the “other” grading companies slabs. Yep, PSA is the king of all kings when it comes to having the ugliest slabs in the market. White sticker with a touch of Red and Black lettering, so beautiful that it makes the cards value increase 10 fold. They are not UV resistant, the cards flop around inside the slab and their grading is horrendous, yep all the more reason why they are the best!! Time for PSA to go down, just like that bank in Commifornia!!

BGS fell victim to the same thing that happened to American cars in the 80's. The American auto companies just assumed that people would continue to buy their vehicles. So they did little upgrade quality, models, options, etc. Then the foreign auto makers caught up, however now American made vehicles have regained a strong foothold in the market. BGS will get back on track.

cut top right corner with a pair of dykes or cutters,stick a big screwdriver in across the flip and lift up n twist, that should do it! bgs has cards come in a sleeve so tap card to bottom of sleeve and cut across the top with scissors! your goal is to crack in 2 big pieces avoid cracking little pieces

Exactly why theyre in hot water right now and the hobby is looking for alternatives. JUST. GRADE. THE. CARDS.

@@nicklazzaro5055 your comment aged well lol

@@Jacob_Spang what aged poorly ab it? I didnt say use beckett

@@nicklazzaro5055 you said they were in hot water. They just broke all the sub records. All the while one of their big threats self imploded.

@@Jacob_Spang Thats maybe their biggest competitor but the threat is having 20 other grading companies that take the space seriously now. Turnaround time and price are still horrific and if the OP is right and theyre just safeguarding 10s even if the cards a 10, its terrible. I only buy PSA because it holds value best but i like SGC better as a company.

It is all about who grades your cards that day. Since they are human graders there will be human error. I bet if I submitted that Trout 3 more times at least one time it would come back a 10. Thanks for watching!

@@scottiebcards2354 Thats great but there needs to be a standard. Ya cant have all your different employees looking at the same thing and literally crushing financials for people. This is known as quality control. Businesses have to deal with it all the time.... however in this hobby youre stuck with that grade. Im sorry but this company is such a scam and i own tons of psa graded cards and use them.... but its because thats what the hobby has to offer if ya care ab the financial side.

@@nicklazzaro5055 other grading companies have quality control issues. Other grading companies don’t have the same person looking at the same cards each time. PSA just has more visibility because they grade 10-20x what other companies do.

@@arynnelson371 well actually companies likes BGS at least has 4 grades on the card. Then theres another company called Transparent that gives you a grade and sends you to their website with a qr code on the slab. On the website they have scans of your card and notes, highlights the issues on the card, and shows you the centering against a 100% background. The problem is the hobby (me included) hang on to companies like PSA for value

@@scottiebcards2354 i seen a guy crack 20 csg cards and sub them back to csg as an experiment and came back exactly the same!!! i think one or 2 cards were .5 off but that is consistent grading! Psa is bullshit

As they should. But good luck ever getting one. Next to impossible

@@arynnelson371 bgs 10's are not impossible the black is 😬 but my group submitter out of a 50 card sub we get a couple 10's , (subhubgrading) he has a youtube channel

Yes big time almost half 😂