With SGC, I feel like I'm getting the grade the card is supposed to be, where PSA and BGS cards seem like it could just be however the grader is feeling on a specific day and how many cards are in their quota for the week because of back-ups. Much rather have something consistent down the road with this batch of modern, and I think in 5 years many others will feel the same.
There was a time I’d agree with this 100% as they are starting to crank out more cards their consistency has waned. I understand why but a lot of this sentiment is them living off of past performance. People get an impression about something and often stick with it longer than they should and I think that is clearly the case with sgc over the lst year or so.
If I want to keep it, SGC. If I want to sell it, PSA. Also. Pre war baseball guys LOVE SGC. If you are in that niche, SGC carries more weight in many ways to the old timers.
You’re break down is super helpful. Crazy how a popular company can be deemed the “premium” trading company yet have the worst stats with actually grading, protecting, and shipping time. That is unfortunate for us in the hobby..
Furthermore, PSA has sometimes unfair prices and selection of what cards should be graded first. As a sports card investor, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. I have been annoyed with PSA’s extremely long return times. I have since switched to AGS and they are much faster. Their AI robot grades the cards in a much shorter time than human grading. Besides, their robots are unbiased and grade without human emotion and unlike PSA, they have fair and legitimate prices. Try their service once and you’ll never go back to human card grading companies!
Submitted to PSA earlier this month (11/22) and in just under three weeks they've already notified me the grading process is complete and already shipped the cards back out....also a special for members for $15 bulk submissions until the end of the month, safe to say no more back log!
I collect SGC, BGS and PSA...I much prefer SGC because I think they grade the most accurately and I like their slabs/flips the best. I do like BGS because of the subgrades but most importantly I like the slab and protection it affords (I've never seen a BGS card move in the case). Overall, I like PSA the least because the grading scale is too simplistic, their slabs are flimsy and cards rattle around way too much, and the flips are kinda ugly. All that being said, I probably have the most PSA cards in my collection for three reasons: 1) By far the most cards graded and therefore available 2) The market has made it clear they are the most popular for resale, which does matter even for a collector 3) Set registry Right now I'm buying SGC and BGS because they are cheap versions of the same cards, but if I had to pick one for my collection I would go with SGC. Especially if they can put together a set registry!
PSA takes way too long and too many people have been disappointed by their service. Investing in sports cards myself, I think AGS is the new wave of card grading. I have been annoyed with PSA’s extremely long return times. I have since switched to AGS and they are much faster. Their AI robot grades the cards in a much shorter time than human grading. Moreover, AGS has AI that grades the cards without bias and AGS offers rational and reasonable prices. I really suggest you try them out as they are the new wave of the future!
Sgc is the best right now overall but will use csg for bulk. Love csg slab. Sgc is overall really consistent when it comes to grading and turn around times and it’s cheap to use sgc
I agree with both points! I need to send some cards to CSG at some point here to really get a feel for them. I just think SGc is the easiest to use at times since the cards come back so fast and the grades are consistent. Thanks for watching and the thoughts!
@@scottiebcards2354 CSG’s standard service is $30 retail and only $22.50 for dealers. Turnarounds have been running 20 days at this service level. Bulk is $10.20 60 days and Economy is $17 40 days.
Last time I used PSA, they returned the grade over a year later. I have been investing in sports cards for quite some time and I suggest you use AGS. They specialize in grading modern cards without bias. Furthermore, they have fast return times when you need the grade quickly and AGS offers logical and legitimate prices. AGS is one of the best new grading companies and they should be tried out!
I love the CSG stuff. Coming into the hobby from comics it was pretty easy to do since i already had a membership with them. I really want to give SGC a try though. Watching your videos has been really helpful for getting into the sport cards market.
can you explain the whole up charging thing? i heard PSA does that, so is it say if the card you send is rare or now that it's been graded they know the value of it is high so they tell you hey pay us this much money to get your cards back?
@@manchuk1d yes... Let's say you're some poor a-hole like me and you happen to pull a "Grail" that you want in a slab and have zero intention on selling. PSA can decide your card is worth $50k and upcharge you THOUSANDS of dollars... And you HAVE to pay or they won't give your card back... It's CRAZY!!! Especially considering guys like Carson Wentz... Dude was Burrow/Allen/Herbert before they were AND he won a Superbowl... Now you can pick up his RCs for next to NOTHING... Imagine if you would have had a card graded when he won the Show, they charged you thousands and now it's worth JACK SQUAT and you live in a van, down by the RIVER?!?!
I just got my first CSG batch back and I really like the new label and the turn around time and price 👌also the grades I got back are exactly what I’d thought they be so…
The fact SGC grades any off centering strict as it should vs PSA who gives out 10's for off center cards is a STRENGTH of SGC, not a weakness. PSA give out far too many unworthy 10's
PSA grades have been inaccurate and is based on what the graders feel. As a sports card investor, I recommend those who are in investing to use AGS. AGS uses robots to grade the cards very quickly. Moreover, their robots are unbiased and grade without human emotion and they have logical and rational prices. Try their service once and you’ll never go back to human card grading companies!
Excellent video as usual. Only distinction I would make is the customers reason for grading. For sale or collection. Its a no brainer for PSA if you are selling, but as a collector, the PSA grading scale you mentioned is sketchy to me. As a seller, who cares if card isn't a perfect 10, as collector this bugs me. As somebody who cames into this 4 yrs ago and only started grading last year(200+ with CSG at $7.20 bulk), imho I want the best card regardless of the slab. There are alot of people who are new to this and we might see a shift in thinking eventually.
Sold prices for BGS 9.5’s can vary drastically depending on the sub grades! BGS gem mints with 2-10’s and 2-9.5’s will sell for a ton more than the ones with 3-9.5’s and 9. I only buy BGS gem mints if all subs are 9.5 or higher. 🍻🇨🇦
agree on all your points. I prefer PSA because I have always valued centering least and corners most since I was a kid. Also a 10 is a 10, 9.5 is not only not a 10, but it has cards in the registry graded higher than it, which devalues it. I cant stress that enough, having cards graded higher than it devalues the card, so no matter how perfect BGS claims a 9.5 is, it has cards graded higher than it which devalues it. Its a shame too since no one visually can tell the difference without a magnifying glass. This is something that maybe only effects me but is really important is the registry. PSA not only has a restful registry (you can use a specific URL to go directly to your card), but it requires no captua or logins. I keep all my cards in a spreadsheet, and a link to the PSA registry. I can click on it and get immediate changes in pop reports, etc. Not only can't I do that with any other grading company, BGS requires a login AND A CAPTUA EVERY TIME I LOOK UP A f'NG CARD! EVERY TIME. I am so over clicking images of boats just to look up a pop report of a card I own or am interested in. Also I would never purchase an HGA Card. Did you see how they missed the Wayne Gretzky Rooky counterfeit? It has all the basic hall marks of a counterfeit card (no orange dot on opeechee). If you can't get one of the most iconic cards in the hobby correct, I have serious doubts they are even authenticating cards. I know almost less than 0 about finding counterfeits, but I know how to spot the basics of a gretzky rc fake.
Well done, Scottie B. I would be interested to get your take on TAG, who I have used for about 40 cards and have found the experience to be superior for modern cards. The transparency is fantastic, the holder is made better than any other, and the M2M - AI aspects create greater consistency. I would also put SGC ahead of Beckett since you did the video...
I did a submission with HGA for a Bichette RC auto, and I did the 60 day submission. I contacted them after 70 days, and they told me it would be another 60-90 days. I just had them send it back to me and they did, so I'll give them a little credit for that. Gonna just send it to PSA I think.
A few years ago I found a curious quirk in SGC cards. I suggest you try it. I accidentally left a couple of SGC cards sitting out on my car front seat and apparently it got exposed to direct sunlight for at least a couple of hours. The sunlight actually wound up turning the SGC flip / label completely black. Meaning that the label material had some sort of reaction to direct sunlight that caused it to turn black. Not sure if this will still happen nor if anybody has brought it to SGC's and or if it's been fixed or not. This didn't happen to only one card it happened to four cards at least that were sitting in the sunlight. So you got to be careful if you're working out cards at your desk or on your kitchen table don't accidentally leave them in the sunlight for any period of time. Has this happened to anybody else?😮
I have a couple HGA cards that I had graded myself and what I have found through watching videos and my own personal experience is that they tend to grade down so anything you get that is HGA usually will grade higher than the other companies. Take that for what you will but I would consider that more of a good thing.
I'll be honest I purchased a SGC 10 ramirez and it had a slight bit of color on one of the corners. So I'm a bit worried about buying a card thats been graded by SGC. That being said Beckett used to be the top, but I've been out of collecting for a while. I was surprised to see PSA has taken over. Not sure why but that seems to be the norm today
Its because of how their slabs look, honestly its smaller and thinner and with the sticket being red and white and the case clear it makes it the whole thing look cleaner.
HGA is absolutely horrible! I had 2 cards I had to re- submit because their sub grades did not add up correctly with the over all grade. They fixed them and it took another 4 months to fix! Their surface grades if you have a card that’s stamped with numbers such as 12/99 they will knock that as a surface issue. 7.5 to 8.5 they’re horrible!!!
I go for PSA but it's expensive. PSA for resellers. I might switch to CGC. I like CGC. I like the holder and It's cheaper. My option is CGC 10 Pristine is the PSA 10 value. CGC 10 Gem Mint is the PSA 9 value. Something like that.
I only collect bgs. Think it's crazy how people want a 10 when psa 10s are often worse than 9.5 bgs. There such wide range of cards getting psa 10. One thing bgs could do is ignore averages for some top grades. If it has all 9.5 rank it a 10. If all 9.5 or 10 give it a 10+. If 3 tens give it pristine. If all then black label. Makes no sense for quad 9 5 sell for less than a psa 10 when must the time they are better.
I think if a company doesn't do sub grades then I don't feel they can be as consistent on their grading scale. Plus it just feels like a lack of transparency, you send a card in to see the condition of the card, getting a single number doesn't tell me anything imo.
If I have a set of old yugioh cards I’m wanting to sell. What’s the best way to evaluate my collection and figure out if some are worth getting graded? Used TCGplayer to determine what the value is.
On the subject of weird things that happen in a factory or wherever. I pulled a Ken Griffey Jr rookie 89 upper Deck out of the pack at the counter in a card shop. In about 92...ish. and it had a Pen Mark on the card.That card has never been out of the hard protector that I bought as soon as I open the pack. How do you authenticate that?
You probably won’t see this but if you can make a video like this again but throw mgs in there they have sponsored me a couple times on TikTok but not popular I wanna know your thoughts
Would you trust sending a card that is possible worth 4000-100K via mail to PSA or BSG? Its a Pockemon card that is vintage from the 90's. I feel like BSG would be better butI just dont know im so torn and I also am terrified to ship it. Can we fly there and drop the card off in person?
I thought since some of my cards wouldn’t get a psa ten that I’d try grading with bgs and get some 9.5s. Boy was I wrong. I highly recommend not grading with bgs. Was extremely disgusted with bgs. Psa all day
its about the confidence of the grading company that collectors have. the 2nd and 3rd tier companies have no streed cred, so their slabs are nearly worthless. psa or sgc, please don't waste your money on any other. get a slab in those lesser companies, loose your money.
I disagree about Sgc beating Bgs out Im not knocking Sgc but very few collectors out putting a 5 or 6figure card in an Sgc slab and there 10's dont get great resale value and they have been out since 1998 i think they are gaining value which is good but there is a lack of trust with Sgc with high end collectors Bgs is still the number 2 most trusted just not doing the volume sgc is doing, csg fast turnaround times lately
On ebay, I agree but if you look at the bigger auction houses like goldin or heritage, they are running neck and neck and psa doesn't have that big gap like they do on eBay.
Hey Mickey, I agree BGS is still ahead of SGC currently, but this trend is getting dangerous for BGS. I am just crossing my fingers BGS does something impactful here soon.
@@scottiebcards2354 your right how long can they lay back and lose market share, there nostalgia is only one collector generation deep in 5-10 years, The older high value collectors will fall off and newer guys arent gonna use them because they're simply not accessable even there submission form is out dated
I'm a big fan of the channel, but I'm a bit confused. When will we see scottie b? Every video I've watched has been by this Scott fellow, not scottie b. When will we meet scottie b?
