I’ve been doing carnivore five years now, lupus, fibromyalgia, and rheumatoid arthritis are completely gone and I was diagnosed with stage four chronic kidney disease and has been reversing it very slowly, but surely
My gf has kidney disease and doctor told her to eat less meat and more vegetables. She is following doctors order and is too afraid to risk her health and try carnivore.
Carnivore or any other elimination diet has its place among the diverse species we call humans, not every genetic makeup is best served by a specific diet. Carnivore may work some group of people, but might be sub optimal or even cause allergies to other groups, Paul needs to understand this distinction before criticizing other diet preferences, there is a reason why we have all shade of people, who live in varying climates around the world.
Dr. Saladino, huge respect to your level of intellect, sharpness, realness, and your pursuit of truth. You’re not gimmicky or trendy. You’re an inspiration.
Also I will Add.. Dr Chaffee, Dr Berg, Dr Baker, Dr Jay, there is a women cant remember her name but few .. but some Great out of box truth telling Docs we all need to support!
These are very complex subjects. The pathophysiology clearly has some work to be fully worked out by the medical community. Both doctors are very intelligent and much respect to Doc for coming on and even having the conversation, he didn't have to do that and put himself out there publically. Both made good arguments and both are trying to figure it out, clearly both have done plenty of research and both each ultimately want whats best for their patients. Its ridiculous to imply that either is ignorant or brainwashed. Very much appreciate the debate and information from both
@@jamesm6817Dr. Alo is brainwashed . He is putting 100% trust in a faulty study. He is the epitome of everything wrong with the Healthcare community today.
@@jamesm6817You can appreciate it while still understanding the brainwashing. And this is not the only subject where this is commonplace in the medical field.
I'm a Physician Assistant with a undergraduate degree in Biochemistry. I am amazed at how the tables have completely turned in regards to nutrition, fasting, CVD, and pharmacology. Dr. Saladino discussed multiple studies contradicting mainstream medicine that Dr. Alo was taught. What is also very interesting (and sad) is the lack of exceptance Dr. Alo has to this new information.
What is heart warming is people like you taking notice an wanting to learn though!! Thanks!! My Doc is a P.A. I had 212 total an first thing he did, here go get some STatins! lol... Actually what started me on this research journey! He was nice guy, but was first time seeing him, didnt ask me 1 question. Knew me for exactly 10 minutes.. Go Take Drugs NOw!!! lol
@@panosntaragiannis9689 ldl was 123 ..but my trig÷hdl ratio was .51 they claim anything under 1.5 ratio is great! An a important marker You want to look at as it shows if you have good lDL or damaged LDL which causes the calcification in arteries damaging . Not as good as a CAC scan. But good marker according berry or chaffe or dr jay or one of em... I love Doctor jay he has his p.HD in biochemistry from Harvard and he got his doctrine by steadian lipid panels.And cholesterol levels, that's how he got his p.H d so I do everything he says.. His wife has a cholesterol level of like 290 and he's not concerned at all because of the other markers.... God Bless!
I'm no academic, but even I can read between the lines with the logic the the cardiologist uses. The cause of atherosclerosis is literally right in front of him but he still focuses on the LDL as an absolute. He even admits that there's a chain of events and causes but still the focus is on just the LDL
Because we cant tell our patients its their fault they are in poor health, change your lifestyle asap. But we can say, “here, take this pill, it will lower your chances of having a heart attack or stroke” Its much easier, get a lipid panel, throw them on rosuva 20/40. NEXT PATIENT PLEASE!!
I would be carefully about judging it without seeing the whole episode, because this is obviously cut down by one side. Still I 100% agree with @tonesmith909
Throwing studies out there doesn't mean you're right. Having studies doesn't mean you have good studies, and during a debate like this no one is parsing data. No one is validating any of this information. I'm not saying saladino is wrong or right, I'm saying you're thinking about all of this incorrectly.
The general idea I compiled from all these health charlatans & big pharma funded doctors is that 1. Meat is not Bad for you. 2. Vegetables are not bad for you. 3. Seed oils & Vegetable oils are definitely bad for you. 4. Sugar is not bad for you if you exercise consistently and use Carbs as fuel. 5. Fish is not inherently bad but do not overdo it. 6. Ultra processed & packaged foods are definitely bad.
Exactly why I do straight to commments an look at real life responses.. just like I do with DIY, concrete, Motorcycles eetc etc Then I take a running avg. Then I do my decsion..
He's basically saying well pretty much everyone is metabolically unhealthy so we can use that as a baseline so LDL is bad! That's the state of the health of the nation/world. Unbelievable
You guys actually live in a different reality, it's insane. But go right ahead and keep believing that ldl and cholesterol has nothing to do with cvd outcomes and the likes even though almost all the research tells a different story.
@@beebah90Come dude, you’re asleep at the wheel. The AHA dropped an article in the AHA Journal stating that the science used to determine a minimum dietary cholesterol intake was based on weak science. They’ve now taken away recommendations to limit dietary cholesterol, except they did give very quietly. I know you’re too numb to go and look up the report though.
@JJ_21Ace I don't get it, why can't people like you understand that it's not about one single study or statement? Ffs, you must look at the OVERALL research to come to the most likely conclusion! Look at the actually META analysis that's been done for the last several decades on this topic, that's where you find what the research says. But people like you won't do that, of course.
@@beebah90 A meta analysis of a bunch of garbage observational, epidemiological studies is still garbage. I’d much rather stake my bets on randomized controlled trials and systematic reviews of said studies. What an arrogant assumption to think that I’ve only reviewed one study and based everything on that. Why would you only look at the overall research as you said and not look into the details of that study and how it was conducted, that is sheep-like behavior. And no, elevated low density lipoproteins are not always a marker for cvd unless you are metabolically broken and are eating a diet high in processed foods. And the only reason we in the carnivore and animal-based community even talk about cholesterol is to dismiss the fear behind it, because on an animal based diet, you will probably have an increase in hdl and ldl, but a decrease in triglycerides. Don’t make a stupid assumption, you’ll embarrass yourself.
the overall research on cholesterol is a crap, and yeah, there are a lot of meta analysis now that have been done on this subject, but a meta analysis of crap is just more CRAP. I don't get why you can't understand this simple logic. Correlation does not prove causation of anything, and even the randomized controlled trial are no more than just a more accurate form of correlation. @@beebah90
Yes but they don't get it. I would love to have these kinds of conversations with friends and family but they don't understand either side of the argument really. I tell my sister these things but yet she has margarine in her refrigerator. Where do you even begin to help your loved ones.
@@GoneCarnivore I feel your pain my friend. I was at my grandma's house this past weekend setting her up with a water distiller, only to find canola oil-laced "butter" in her refrigerator. This is a mass hypnosis of sorts.
@@GoneCarnivoreit’s hard but just keep doing the right things and when they ask how just repeat yourself and tell them over and over again that it’s diet….all diet! Eventually they’ll believe you or they won’t, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t teach it how to drink
@@GoneCarnivoreYou can't. You say things once or twice because you care, but you will never change their mind. Let that sink in. In my years & years of debating people, and trying to warn people I care about about numerous topics, I have concluded that people *have to have something serious hit home* before they begin to question official narratives. And even then, most of them will continue to listen to the official narrative. Why? Because 1) People are not intelligent, 2) The official narrative is usually *easier* (for example, popping a pill instead of changing dietary habits) and they are too lazy/lack the willpower to change, and/or 3) they have instilled in them an impenetrable appeal to authority, probably pounded into their heads in public school, that you will NEVER defeat. Imagine teaching a puppy to hit a treat dispenser with its paw & a delicious seed oil dog "treat" comes out. Now, without taking it away from him, try to teach him that those treats are killing him. That's what you're dealing with with your family. We are vulnerable, pleasure seeking animals and if eating (or injecting, popping pills, etc) something that kills us means we get to continue that pleasure the less intelligent of us will gladly bathe in a giant pool of denial. It isn't until those dog treats start to make that dog throw up or bloat will he start to question them. On his own. You are but a nuisance to him until them, continuously telling him "no."
The wood analogy is great. I think this is one of the best arguments for cause and effect. Paul is correct, fix the spark, unfortunately fixing the spark is too difficult for most and probably against most people’s lifestyles. Funny thing is I have had the discussion with my cardiologist and his response was most people don’t care to understand the base of their issues and just want a pill to make it go away.
Already listened and watched this podcast and it was amazing! Paul, I love that you are so passionate with your discoveries and that you share the data. I really tried to listen to both sides but you definitely stole the show. He just seemed confused. Thank you for all your hard work.
Dr Saladino's knowledge, breakdown of the studies and explanation of science is SAVAGE. I haven't seen one interview where he doesn't dominate...and I bet money this cardiologist will miss sleep tonight wondering if Paul is right and he is wrong. Dr Saladino is changing the world.
Him an about 5 others state almost same proof. Proud of all of em. One guy, he is bald, phd in bio chemistry from Harvard! an shreds the High LDL being harmful at moleculer level.
This is the debate I have been craving. I have been so confused about all this, but this video offers some great insights. I applaud the cardiologist for participating. He also just wants to help people, and instead of just resting on his background, is willing to engage. We need more of this, so the picture can become clearer. Usually, we just get each side making their case in a vacuum. I would love to see all the main players engage with one another. The subject matter is too important not to do so.
Ekberg channels destroys High LDL being bad an so does this bald headed guy with phd in bio chemistry from Harvard, Dr Anthony Jay, destroys it with same evidence an debates.. there out there.. slowly tiny steps.
Excellent point and agree with your position. My experience has concluded that as with anything mainstream it is primarily they which are the most absolute in their refusal for debate.
As a board-certified cardiologist, who respects physiology and bio chemistry, I 100% agree with Dr. Saladino. Atherosclerosis is primarily caused by inflammation and as a matter of fact, the main components of plaques are inflammatory cells. And inflammation is directly related to insulin resistance. From vascular biology standpoint patients with diabetes have highest levels of inflammation in their blood vessels, including coronary arteries. this is a very well-known phenomenon in cardiology world. That is why in cardiology diabetes is known as cornary artery disease equivalent. Now if you combine insulin resistance and inflammation with the process of atheroma and atherosclerosis formation, we then arrive at the conclusion that LDL alone is not the main culprit for coronary artery disease, formation, and progression.
I have been on the Animal base diet for 8 months now, since I started it I have not been sick since, not had a sun burn since then and my hair never been more nourished, cut out perfumes, shampoo, soaps, polyester, and non stick pans ,and seed oils detergents dish soaps, using baking soda and white vinegar for dishes and clothes plus cleaning in general. Paul you are an amazing voice for health keep up the good work. "What you give you get back 100fold"
Cutting out perfumes and all those toxic cleaning products is one of the greatest things we can do for our health. I live the low VOC lifestyle and love it. My arteries are mysteriously clear for my age. People think i'm nuts for going fragrance free.
@@flyingosom202 After cutting out sugar, vegetable oils and carbs, upping animal fat and I stopped wearing sunglasses when out in the sun I dont get sunburn anymore. I can promise you this is absolutely true.
I've been vegetarian for 6 years and I am stronger, faster, have more energy than I've ever had when I ate meat. I guess everyone has a success story with every diet
I’m trying to get my mom to watch this who has high LDL but her diet is of bread, chicken, and ice cream (not raw). She’s terrified of burgers and raw dairy but hoping this video with shed light on her fears being driven by medical profession’s vested interest in wealth over health. Please send prayers she opens her eyes to the truth ❤
If she’s usually cold to the touch or feels cold (you can also measure temperature after waking) low thyroid function might be a big part of the reason for higher LDL along with general stress. Trying desiccated thyroid for a few weeks along with slowly upping caloric intake (with high quality foods) should be enough in most people to notice some positive differences already.
The propaganda has got a stronghold on the majority of the population. So sad to see. I wish I could help my family but it falls on deaf, ignorant ears. People complain about their health then shun you when you try to present the real information. Okay would you like to read hundreds of pages of data and studies, or watch a video that breaks down all of the sources and explains it in 30 mins? Would you rather get healthy and educate yourself, or complain while you swallow your pills?
Its bad for your arteries though. Very dangerous my friend. Whole foods plant based reverses heart disease. Not a single person ever has reversed heart disease with a diet that includes animal foods. If you want to prove me wrong please provide before and after angiogram photos showing actual plaque reversal. I’ll wait
You didn't disagree with what you responded to. They didn't claim either side was correct but rather that the host's behavior was poor. @@oliveroconnor5744
I love watching Paul support his case. Every time I've seen him talk with someone smart who disagrees with him, I've walked away more confident in the validity of carnivory.
@@hauntyooIt seems as if you are pretty obsessed with Dr. Saladino too. Ironic how all you have done in his comments is seethe, so maybe you have bias too? I don't think you understand what a debate in this setting is; there is no winner. The audience, who are the commenters, are allowed to favor one candidate over the other. It's an unprofessional environment, get over it and stop crying.
@@clandestinefreedom8114 I have to add, there might be bias on my part, but what annoys me in Saladino, is the fact that he was, just few years ago for all meat diet aka carnivore diet. He wrote a book about it. And then he changed his pitch to "animal based diet". Now what happened? The science did not change in few years? So either he didn't understand the science few years back, or he was just trying to jump into the carnivore train. So what makes you think he understands the science now? It would be fine, if he would talk about it from his own experiences, but he's selling his diet as if it's supported by science. And the other thing, I'm always sceptical, and cannot trust people that give nutritional advice at the same time as he's selling you supplements for 50 bucks a bottle. It's a well known tactic in marketing. I fell into thr same "scam" over 10 years back, when I tried to find tips for a healthy plant based diet. Now, I do not doubt this "animal based" diet is helpfull for alot of people, it surely makes them cutt out all the processed crap. But he sells his diet by trashing many healthy plant foods, that are time and time again proven to be beneficial, without any evidence! Same thing with oils, the studies show the benefits of for example canola oil.
You seek confirmation bias because you want to reaffirm your false beliefs. The science is very clear on cholesterol and heart disease. You can either accept facts or follow Saladino and most likely you will suffer an early death.
My numbers 11 months on carnivore: Total Chol: 157 Triglycerides: 43 HDL chol: 51 Total cholesterol ratio: 3.1 VLDL Chol: 9 LDL Chol: 97 I eat 95% meat and fruit. Occasionally i will eat a little ice cream on the weekends (sorry Paul 😢). I never ever eat bread, chips, nuts, or anything like that.
@@rockstarmade5755 Or without honey if you don't have a sweet tooth...I make a frozen blend of plain yogurt, kefir, cream, egg yolks and salt (sometimes I add taurine, glycine, and other supplements) in a cheap ice cream maker.
In my role as a data analyst, it's essential to emphasize that correlation does not equate to causation. The assertion made by cholesterol experts regarding this correlation lacks a solid scientific foundation. Various other variables need consideration, and the confirmation of causation can be established through randomized controlled trials and alternative research methodologies. The argument that cholesterol directly causes heart disease often lacks robust support.
You forget that correlation can equal causation because every causation equals a correlation. Furthermore, it doesn't take all that much correlation to effectively equal causation. With just two of the Bradford Hill criteria, temporality and dosage, you can get quite close to causation. RCTs are not the gold standard everybody uncritically believes because of unexamined assumptions no one ever knows about - hence the replication crisis.
@@althe You are absolutely correct, however, the distinction between correlation and causation is fundamental and often overlooked. It's one of the first principles we learn in statistics and research. The challenge arises when correlation is mistakenly portrayed as causation, often due to biases or a desire to prove a particular point. This is why we frequently encounter headlines linking seemingly unrelated factors, like meat consumption, to health issues such as heart attacks and cancer. These conclusions often result from flawed methodologies. For instance, consider a study that shows a correlation between meat consumption and heart attacks. It's important to question whether other variables, like a high-carb diet, pre-existing health conditions, smoking, or drinking, could be influencing the outcome. In essence, highlighting the importance of rigorous and comprehensive analysis, as well as the consideration of various variables and factors when drawing conclusions from data. This critical thinking is vital to avoid oversimplification and misleading claims based solely on correlation.
@@Paulsaladinomd I'll be honest; after watching the initial 5 minutes, my attention gravitated towards Dr. Chaffee's interview. Please know that I'm a huge fan of your work, and I wanted to direct my comment towards the guest on your show :) I apologize for any potential confusion.
Paul, I love these talks you do on such misunderstood but important to understand topics, they are so valuable for everyone lucky enough to see them. But one thing I beg of you is to PLEASE make some videos where you review or repeat the topics discussed in these videos in Layman’s terms for all of us non-scientifically inclined folk out here. I spent two hours searching up all the science specific terminology used such as Ldl abc etc arthro-etc and whatnot. I think a lot of folk would benefit from this content broken down into content understandable by the average person. Keep fighting the good fight sir!
I have followed Japanese research on this that is finding people with higher LDL live longer also, and even Dr. Ken Berry talked about a meta-analysis recently that showed elevated cholesterol had little risk of death whereas ass the recommended number had an exponential increase in death. I also hate when they call LDL cholesterol. It is not. Cholesterol is a small part of LDL. LDL carries many nutrients throughout the body. And none of these people who promote lowering cholesterol ever mention that statins can cause heart failure and diabetes. Also, there are multiple studies that have found the majority of heart attacks are in people with low to "normal" cholesterol levels. None of these "studies" ever consider how the modern grain-based diet has increased health problems over the last 100 years.
Yes.. (Ken Berry) ugg been saying Ken Berg.. LOL but Berry, Chaffee, Baker, Jay all Drs etc total say same thing.. tons of pro info out there.. LDL = Liptide molecule.. Love Dr Jays break down on why HIgh ldl does not cause heart dies.. He is a phd in bio chemistry.. explains it great!
@@kamilonga6612 Go to Anthoy chaffee page he has sources... also havard bio chemist on utube Dr Jay has the graph an the sources... also search newst latest ldl studies was co.pleted n march of 2024... tons of it on here with the study an source.... easy to check. Better if you find on your own so you believe.... ez to do.
@@Paulsaladinomd I listened roughly half of it as it is a bit long. I usually exercise while listening the podcasts. Chaffee podcast was great as well.
@@Paulsaladinomd Don't worry Dr Saladino, there are people watching & understanding the whole thing! Great work! Outstanding (summarized) presentation.
@@yvandaniel8050 I still have a lot to learn. I beginning to understand most of it. However, some of more advanced conversations are beyond my current knowledge level.
It looks like Dr.Alo was not comfortable with what Dr.Salindo was putting on the table. Dr.Alo was relived that the debate came to an end. But kudos to him for walking into the debate.
Love your reasoning Paul. I’m personally following a plant-free diet. However, I think this was edited in such a way that it looks like you never gave him a chance to make his arguments.
Never seen someone promoting getting owned in a debate so bad! Kudos to you for posting this. Repeating the same point over and over and over doesn’t make an argument more convincing.
Paul Saladino is only 46. It is not unusual to be healthy at 46. The insurance companies will give most people $300,000 insurance policies quite cheap at 46. Have “Paul Saladino” get back to you in 20 years. Of course, he probably won’t even be on RU-vid. He will have gotten his money and retired by then.
@@russellgrimes3491plus he lives in costa rica i'm pretty sure they have free healthcare as well just as we have in Nicaragua or he can get private health insurance
On carnivore, my total cholesterol was 347. LDL-C was 250. My HDL was 100. TG 51. My ApoB was elevated at 130 which makes sense given increased particle number. But my LP(a) was low at 25 mg/dL. Fractionation was Pattern A overall. Over past 3 months, I’ve experimented with addition of fruit and honey. Will probably repeat labs after first of year.
I’m almost a mirror image of your numbers except my trigs are a little higher and HDL a little lower. I’m glad I’m not the only “phenotype” out there with big numbers. My LP(a) is at 11 though and I feel pretty damn good.
@@specialk2995 That’s a pretty stellar LP(a) level. This is how I view this issue: I’m eating nothing but meat, eggs, fruit. All single ingredient whole food items. Nothing processed. I exercise daily. I don’t drink or smoke. I’m not obese. No medical issues. What more can I do besides all of the above??? Folks seem to ruminate on all the issues. If I am doing all of the above and I STILL have a heart attack at some point, then clearly whatever X factor is there is beyond my control.
@@keywestfan2503 well put. Have you listened to Andrew Huberman’s interview of Peter Attia on hormones, longevity and all things cholesterol? It scared the crap out of me. I wish Dr. Paul could hash it out with Attia.
@@specialk2995 I don’t know if I have or not. I listen to so much stuff. Lol. But I take everything with a grain of salt. You have to keep in mind that these influencers livelihoods depend on the shock value of their videos as Clickbait.
I totally understand the way you explained the fact that is not only LDL but the combination of metabolic factors that contribute to CVD. That’s why the main treatment is lifestyle changes and also the follow up on sub clinical atherosclerotic disease not only follow LDL.
India only started to have heart problems when they started to use cooking oil. And most of INDIA are vegetarians, when they cooked with ghee they had no heart attacks
I am not sure about consuming fruit and honey every day (as he recommends in his other videos), but I am convinced Dr. Saladino is far, far more precise (and accurate) in his analysis of the role of LDL in atherosclerosis than your typical cardiologist. Of course, this video was edited and shows only the highlights and it would be interesting to see the entire debate. NonetheIess, I was very impressed with the Saladino's mastery of the research. This was a brutal "take down" on traditional thinking about the role of LDL in heart disease. Score a big one for Dr. Saladino.
Curious about your problem with fruit every day. That’s really the only common ground between Paul and western nutrition, both recommending multiple servings a day.
88, enlarged heart with murmur since five years old and Scarlet Fever. Always had high LDL - and offers of statins. Always refused. Will continue to do so.💖
Hello Dr. Saladino. I've been doing the diet you've recommended , 3 weeks in after tomorrow. I have to honestly tell you that i didn't know great i could feel until i tried this one. Thanks for turning my life around =) I hope wish you the best in the future, and lets hope that these big coroporations dont try to silence you, cause knowledge is health!!
Very good. Glad you guys got into it a bit. I don’t know what my cholesterol is, nor do I care. I am connected to my body, and I know when it’s running well, and why it’s running well. Going carnivore two years ago was the best thing that ever happened for me. I was intermittent fasting, and still do mostly, when I started to narrow things down even more. I was forced into this way because of the MMR vaccine that was forced upon me as a condition of employment by government. I lost a decade of my health fighting made up stomach disease that no one but Dr. Wakefield in England dared to correlate with the MMR. Basically, my guess is is that the adjuvant causes inflammation and leaky gut and I had no choice by to limit my diet to non-inflammatory foods plus fasting at night so I could sleep and heal. As a result, I’m ripped now without trying, I have the energy of a 25 year old again and surf circles around most people for hours on end, and my cognitive function has increased in ways I couldn’t explain. I have no mood swings. I have a clear head. And I’m able to use my brain at a way higher level than I ever was previously in life. It cannot be that heart disease coincides with the best forms of health we experience as humans. I refuse to let fat, sick people, with no clue what it’s like living this way, tell me I’m not doing it right…when all the indications in reality seem to demonstrate otherwise.
At 10:03 Dr. Alo sort of gave the game away. He says something to the effect that "as seed oils have gone up cardiovascular deaths have gone down". Wow. How about reduced cigarette smoking, reduced high blood pressure via better pharma, and many other interventions? I cannot decide whether Dr. Alo is just a regular doc who cites studies to support his conclusions that have been spoon fed to him his whole career and thinks no further, or he truly believes that seed oils are the reason heart disease has gone down?
Dr Peter Attia discussions with Dr Tom Dayspring, are very informative wrt lipidology. Would be great if Dr Saladino did a follow up discussion with one of them.
The cardiologist has a compltely messed up and swelled facial lymph nodes, hinting on his highly unhealthy lifestyle and him not knowing much about inflammation. This says a lot.
Excellent Doc. High LDL without IR is not necessarily a concern, i.e. not building up plaque in arterial wall. But High LDL + IR is a huge concern. I have heard that getting HOMA-IR test to indicate if Insulation Resistance exists, as well as HG-A1C test. These are apparently the best indicators; not fasting glucose. Seed oils 👎 Omega-3 👍 Omega-6 👎
Why do you say no to all omega-6s? Doing that is like western nutrition saying no to saturated fats. You need omega-6s as much as omega-3s to strive. Though a lower ration of 6s to 3s is ideal, you can’t just draw them out completely.
@@Colin.71 well my friend, I am just going on what I have heard from many brilliant doctors I am subscribed to. They say Omega-3 Good Omega-6 bad Omega-9 good Up until the last few months, where I kept encountering this kind of talk, I did not know about anything other than Omega-3s, which I knew to be good. That is what I have heard. No less than 3 of them have spoken this way, and that is not including the health coachs that have a 6 pack belly and ripped, and in good shape, that talk the same way. Take it for what its worth. Have a great week.
@@Colin.71 Not sure what that is, but I have been doing a Keto-carnivore for about 5 months. Going get labs done soon. I should have gotten some before I started. As Homer Simpson would say "doH!!" I keep learning.
@@betawithbrett7068 what I meant by elimination diet was the complete elimination of omega-6 fatty acids because of the perceived risks outweighing the benefits .
At the end of 2022, I was told I was prediabetic, I had kidney problems, gum disease, and symptoms of heart disease. I changed my diet and went full carnivore for 4 months and was no longer prediabetic. I am now eating a keto diet, and my gums are growing, my kidney function is fine, and the symptoms of heart disease have gone. I have ignored all the advice from my doctors, and my health has improved. I think this speaks volumes.
I have no idea if there is a connection to what is happening in arteries, but I often repair chainsaws, and one guy who brings me his saws to work on, uses canola oil to lubricate the chain. For people who may not know, chainsaws have an oil tank and a pump that consistently feeds the oil to the chain for necessary lubrication. Standard chain oil is traditionally petroleum based, but now there are vegetable based chain oils that are used as being more environmentally friendly. The saws where the guy uses canola oil, (cheaper than commercially available chain oil) the internal parts where the oil residue remains over time, become very hardened seriously gummed gunked up. I have told him that if he continues using canola, I won't work on his saws any longer, too much hassle to clear out the hardened gummy gunk. If there might be some connection, perhaps I can assume that canola oil in your veins is a no win situation.
I listened to the full podcast. I've listened to so many of the carnivore and keto podcasts but in my attempts to have conversations with friends and family I have learned that people arent interested in conversations about Nutrition. Its very disappointing!
Most people act like automatons and get cognitive dissonance when you try to speak sense to them. It's comparable to programming, which it essentially is.
As someone who just lowered my total cholesterol by more than 35% and also lowered ldl by more than 50+ pts, I don’t know what I did. What I did for sure was increase fiber beyond my daily % value. 6 months. I did cut out saturated fats and heavy cholesterol foods, but I don’t know if that was it. Hard to tell but this is very interesting to challenge the clinically established script.
Big Pharma hick jacked science in the last 100 years, with its funding, and its fellowship of select grad students, that fit Big Pharma's narative well
Makes sense to me that humans aren't meant to eat ounces and ounces of pure oil daily. But a handful of nuts here and there is not necessarily bad either.
@@Paulsaladinomd Bingo! In 18 words: consuming more polyunsaturated fat than that found in nature will slowly oxidize your body and cause chronic disease. Yes, this includes Omega-3, but of course excess Omega-6 is the true conundrum we face. Seed oils were designed to lubricate machinery and not mankind. Paul, we love you man!
@@shellderpnuts themselves will not be bad. We have to think about back in the days how often would people eat them it's not like they had readily available all they needed to do was go pick it up from the closest market. It would take time to grow, and when they would they would have a few and share the rest with family n friends and not just that it being completely organic free from any harmful chemicals. Moderation is the path
The editing of this video is a disgrace. It completely undermines Saladino's position because he doesn't allow the cardiologist the same resources for rebuttal so it makes it seem as if he's frightened of the outcome if he did. Saladino may be right in his assertions about the flaws in the epidemiology but the only way you can call it a *_DEBATE_* is if each party is given the same amount of time and the same access to supporting evidence, if its being done over Zoom then only edit for time (ie without leaving out any salient arguments on either side). Here Saladino includes long sections where he's quoting from various studies, etc., which were clearly recorded after the fact. Wouldn't it be great if you could edit political debates the same way, huh? Just cut out any of your opponent's good lines and add some zingers of your own afterwards! If you're confident of your case you should do this frequently, invite skeptics on for debate but be prepared, have your notes at hand, and let the chips fall where they may, right? If I were participating I would prepare a release that specified ground rules based on this showing. Really poor form.
Very true. I will say this was the first time I truly understood the point of disagreement between LDL haters and non haters though. Even if poor form, now i at least understand what the debate is (and I’ve watched hours of stuff about LDL)
I love the direction you took in this conversation with a critical nuance of 'sugar, insulin resistance'. Of course, nestle or Kellog will not want the studies to look at seed oils and of course not emphasize the importance of sugar excess consumption. I've been slow/cautiously watching your videos, this threw me into the 'subscribe lane'
The big issue is that LDL is being treated as a single lipid in a lipid panel, as it is bundled up with VLDL in tests. It is the ratio of HDL and Triglycerides that gives us a clue of what the ratio of small dense LDL and VLDL is. If you have high HDL and low triglycerides, your LDL/VLDL ratio is completely different from someone with low HDL. I just had this same discussion with my cardiologist. If find it kind of disturbing how little some people stay on top of their own field of study. I see this in my own field as well, they learn something 10-20 years ago and refuse to update to new methods or research.
I like the reference to fire. If you remove the wood there is no fire. But if you have wood and remove the spark there is no fire either. Removing the wood causes other heath problems so we should focus on the spark
One thing I don’t understand is how cardiovascular disease deaths in the US are down ~40-50% since the 90s, however people are eating more seed oils than ever. Can someone explain this?
Che sconforto vedere negata l'evidenza!! Non c'è tuttavia alcun dubbio che questo medico sia in buona fede e perfettamente convinto delle tesi che sostiene,altrimenti si sarebbe semplicemente negato al confronto come fa la maggior parte dei suoi colleghi! Grazie dottor Saladino♥️
Please debate Dr. Layne Norton or Dr. Gil Carvalho. For your followers google the two doctors I just listed and after watching some of Saladino’s views on LDL and seed oils, see if you have a different view. I guess the entire medical community including expert in lipid metabolism and nutrition researchers must have it wrong if a psychiatrist says so.
I googled them and they didn’t change my mind. The “entire” medical community doesn’t agree about this, and though the majority does, they are just wrong. That’s why you told us to look up the doctors and didn’t actually type anything that specifically rebuts Paul’s points.
The doctors I listed have a ton of material on their youtube pages that destroys his arguments. Here is one on seed oils "Seed Oils Make Your Fat Cells Sick | What the Fitness | Biolayne” and one on saturated fat. "Gary Brecka Says Stop Picking on Cholesterol! “ " The Truth about Saturated Fat | New Narrative Review"I posted my comment an hour ago. I’m guessing based on how much information I know they published on these topics your haven’t even scratched the surface of what they have to say. Dr. Carvalho review alone was comprehensive and 43 minutes long. You can look up videos on common fact check doctors. Your guy it very popular because he gets so many things wrong. Or maybe he’s right and everyone else is wrong. I’m doing with people who have extensive research backgrounds.
It’s the look of a true brainwashed gullible system slave or just an opportunist who wants to make money off your sickness remember healthy people don’t make pharmaceutical companies money
Slightly off topic but I lowered my PSA through KETO and fasting and my doctor had the same look on her face as I asked her to explain why it had gone down! She ran out of the room!
they realized their whole lifes work was built on a sham, and you knew it. Congrats on taking matters in to your own hands for health. We did the same !
I love how the guys who make valid points on the side of carnivore or keto also always look healthy. I wouldn't listen to a fat fitness instructor. I'm not going to listen to a soft person when it comes to diet. Thanks for all the information exchange Paul you've changed my life with how I look at everything that goes into me.
According to Dr. Mercola total cholesterol is not an indicator of heart disease risk. Better indicator would be dividing HDL/ Total Cholesterol ratio. 24% and above ideal percentage, 10% and below significant heart disease risk indicator. Tryglycerides/HDL ratio, below 2 ideal ratio. Also, according to Mercola optimum level of Cholesterol is at least 200 mg/dl, under 150 mg/dl is too low.
I just had a triple bypass and HDL LDL and cholesterol triglycerides were all good numbers. I had two blockages at 90% and one at 70% one of the 90% was 25 cm long. Cortisol was my biggest culprit and insulin resistance A1C was 6.4 but after going ketovore everything dropped but HDL went up. Dr. Paul is right on.
The video is *_12mins32sec_* long, Dr Alo gets roughly *_2mins45sec_* vs Saladino's *_9mins47sec_* . Show us the whole screen recording, then let us decide who comes out on top.
I went to a cardiologist (new guy since I moved) and I realized immediately that I won't be going back. THE ONLY THING HE DISCUSSED WITH ME WAS MAYBE HAVING TO START STATINS IF I DON'T LOWER MY LDL C. THAT IS ALL HE CARED ABOUT.
Kudos to him for being willing to have this discussion. He definitely needs more cholesterol, you can see the anxiety in his face. Face twitches, darting eyes, moving around uncomfortably, etc....
I genetically have high cholesterol , been taking the lowest dose possible of statin for 3 months and the total cholesterol difference is pretty unreal . Triglycerides have come way back down . I feel good at moment so will carry on .
Interesting debate, I started Keto, LCHGF and Carnivore in 2019. I got a CAC score in 600'S, Dr. told me I need statins but would not take them. 2023 I had a stroke and was eating well, more carnivore than anything else, in hospital a lot of test were done and Dr. wanted me on statins again after visit to cardiologist. I got the medicine but did not take it, instead had my own blood test done through LabCorp and Dr. Eckberg from Wellness Center in Georgia. Obviously something was wrong, high LDL totals and high small ldl particles, but I was insulin sensitive. Started supplements and had another CAC score, now it is in the 1400'S. I also had Lp(a) and it was very low, ApoB was very high so now since damage has been done it looks like my understanding for me is getting on some type of statin to lower these numbers and hopefully resolve my CVD. So insulin resistance is not the only cause obviously of CVD.
I have so many questions when I watch these...what was their overall nutrition looking like, and what did their triglycerides look like? We're they ingesting carbs, fiber and sugars. I'm not sure of the mechanics in all of this, but I do know that it messes with the bodies ability to properly absorb and process the optimal human diet.
My LDL is over 300 and total cholesterol over 400. My Dr. tried to scare me into using toxic statins, so I had him order a lipid subfractionation particle count. It came back non atherogenic (healthy) of course since I eat Hyper Carnivore. And my CAC score is zero! My subsequent good health correlates with high, healthy LDL, high HDL and loW triglycerides!
This was helpful! Thank you. I think you could've find common ground in saying something like "LDL Alone is not something to be concerned with, and medicating for elevated LDL without looking at the whole picture is jumping the gun."
I had very high LDL cholesterol my whole life, it’s hereditary. I ate pretty healthy & always active, no fast food/sugar. I’m 52 now. This year I finally got a CT scan of my heart. I have a 50% blockage and two 30% blockages. I’m skinny, active, feel great. Anyone that tells you high cholesterol is benign….is simply wrong. Everyone …every body, is different.
I'd be curious to know if you mostly ate seed oils or if you ate saturated fat, and if you had knowledge of your insulin levels, since most docs don't check that. Blockage of 50% is a bit unsettling, considering you thought you were eating so healthily.
There is a lot of other important information you left out. Your definition of pretty healthy and being active can look different for person to person. So many other factors come into play here.
