Carnivore Doctors Battle [Is Fruit & Honey Carnivore?] Paul Saladino 

I just went to the ER for an infection. They did blood work on me. I am a still little heavy still so the doctor was shocked at how good my blood work and blood pressure was. I told her I eat 10 grams of carbs a day and all of those from live fermented veg, and all other calories from meat and mostly fat. The look on her face was priceless.

Thank you for being the only carnivore doctor to actually talk with Saladino. It’s very important that we work together in this community and explore each and every idea, whether good or not, so we can truly know what that ideal diet is for us.

7 years carnivore, and the very first thing I cut out was the fruit, and immediately I started to feel better. Sugar was next and then veg. At each stage I felt better. I just did it slowly and methodically until the only thing I was left eating was meat and fat. At the start I had 20 ailments, some very debilitating. 3 were lifelong progressive according to the specialist at the hospital. All of them are now resolved and my blood pressure is optimal, and I am on zero meds at the age of 65. I accidentally became carnivore and am in the best health of my life. We have been lied to all our lives folks.

Always was told, "Eat your vegetables". Never wanted them. Always craved meat. Especially beef.

Im a 60 year old nurse, I work 4-10 hour workday. I started this carnivore journey almost a week ago. I have noticed a loss of cravings, I can walk past breads, donuts, cookies brownies and not want it and that is a big change for me. I have a weightloss of 3.5 lbs, not hungry like I use to be. I don't have GERD in the morning and don't need a Pepcid anymore. Bowel movements are every other day instead of daily and not as much. No more uncomfortable bloated feeling in abdomen. I hope i can maintain it. I think it is good for me. One thing is good for me is I love animal fat. I always felt guilty loving the beef fat on a steak.

I have done this diet both ways. Both ways have been good. Both ways have a negative. However, the absolute biggest problem with eating the fruit and honey is the “no hunger” aspect of carnivore is gone which could lead down a destructive path. I love the no hunger carnivore.

Surfing every day removes Paul from any possible comparisons to the average human

I took of 40 lbs easily with keto. But I fatten now extremely quick, without gluttony. I proved it. And the fat I put back on is lumpy and full of fluid, and I was developing heart failure. This is new for me. My inflamation multiplied horribly. My body began to swell, and my legs became almost dead weights. This occured when I went back to limited carbohydrates for 6 mths. I am broken. Don't do as I did. It is much harder this time to deal with my metabolic syndrome and severe insulin resistance, to the point of weight loss. I committed to carnivore for the first time. Prayers are appreciated.

I love doctor Berry, he never closes his mind, always learning and adjusting. Brilliant man

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="52">0:52</a>: 🥩 Dr. Ken Barry follows a carnivore diet, consisting mainly of meat and eggs, with occasional seafood and pork. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="568">9:28</a>: 📊 Optimal human health requires maintaining five key markers in the sweet spot, not just within normal range. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1111">18:31</a>: 🥦 The video discusses the failure of traditional diets based on the premise of eating less and moving more, and highlights the success of the keto and carnivore diets in activating satiety hormones and promoting weight loss. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1655">27:35</a>: 🥑 Avoid consuming plant seed oils for health optimization and longevity. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2231">37:11</a>: 🥦 The speaker discusses the potential health effects of consuming a high fructose diet and the benefits of a paleo diet. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="82">1:22</a>:30: 🍯 The speaker discusses a study on the metabolic effects of consuming honey, sucrose, and high fructose corn syrup. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2778">46:18</a>: 🤔 The speaker is in awe of the complexity of the human species but also frustrated by people who neglect their health. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="3323">55:23</a>: 🍎 The speaker discusses the historical diet of humans and argues that fruit is the least inflammatory plant food. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="64">1:04</a>:13: 🌳 Grafting has been practiced for thousands of years to improve the quality of fruits. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="73">1:13</a>:43: 🍯 The speaker discusses the importance of honey in the diet of our ancestors. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="90">1:30</a>:54: 👥 Subjective experiences and lab studies both play a role in understanding how the body reacts to different diets. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="99">1:39</a>:30: 🐝 Dr. Saladino advises against consuming store-bought honey due to potential contamination from pesticides. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="107">1:47</a>:59: 🥦 The speaker believes that Western medicine does not adequately address the role of diet in managing diabetes and suggests experimenting with cutting out certain foods to improve health. Recap by Tammy AI

We live in Ecuador 30 miles from the Equator and follow a high meat, egg, cheee and fruit diet all from our farm. I am 60 have never been healthier

One thing that drives me crazy about Ken Barry Is he doesn’t let other people talk. Paul is so good at allowing others to talk and make their point while just sitting back and listening, even when it’s to his own detriment

One thing not mentioned in this video is mitochondria health. Paul's habit of being in water and sun and also barefoot for several hours everyday is incredibly beneficial for the mitochondria. Compare that to your average human spending most of their day in shoes (no grounding) and under artificial lighting all day. I think this is another factor in the whole discussion.

I'm a 61yo female who has maintained 99.5% carnivore diet (no honey or fruit) for 3 1/2 years. My most recent blood work revealed fasting insulin level of 2.0 uIU/mL, HbA1C of 4.8%, LDL of 278 mg/dL, Triglycerides of 45 mg/dL, and HDL of 88 mg/dL. Of course, my doctors are very concerned about my elevated LDL. I'm not worried about it at all!

I tried Pauls life style for four months. I ate fruit and honey everyday.i even bought four months worth of his liver and tallow tables. I was all in. I never lost any weight. I felt good but no weight loss. Several years ago i lost 50 pounds doing very low carb. 20 or less a day. Ive gone back to that and in two and a half months ive loss 25 pounds. So, for me super low carbs work best of me.

I stayed strict carnivore for 4 months, and was doing better than I was on keto, but the brain fog and lack of energy/low mood made it hard to function. I had to add honey and fruit back in. My body was begging me. Doing much better now. Everyone has to find their own way of making this work for them. My keratosis pilaris on my legs is clearing up and I feel so much stronger!! You guys are my two favourite carnivore docs by the way 🥰🥰

I’m a Ketovore like your wife. My last Lipid panel was low Triglycerides, high LDL and High normal HDL. My doc was left scratching his head. Then the fasting insulin was low and A1C was perfect. Actually he said that my entire Metabolic panel was perfect and if he didn’t know better he would think that he was looking at the labs of a 30 yr old marathon runner! Lol I’m 63. This is actually very easy and can be fun!

I'm convinced I am a carb addict, Keto and IF has helped me lose 18kg and improve quality of life but if I cheat once, I. Can't stop. I will spiral. It's black and white - I need to step up to carnivore but I spent 15 years of vegetarianism. Been eating meat for 4 months now and I feel great but my conscience is not happy about it, thanks Dr B for all you do 🇬🇧

I think Dr. Saladino quickly uses those carbohydrates with his intense workouts surfing. For many of us, we just don't need anywhere near that amount of carbs and probably would encourage us to continue eating the sweet stuff. That really is the point. Dr. Berry is correct imo. A spoonful of honey a day would definitely take me on a slippery slope backwards.

I added some fruit and honey back in a couple months ago and it wrecked me. I became obsessed with my next meal, trying to justify adding something sweet to everything I ate. Total disaster. It took my body about 6 weeks to recover…. Not doing that again.

The issue is Paul isn't fat and has never been fat. His theory works for a skinny person surfing 3 hrs a day. He's not getting the fact that we as a nation are already damaged and obese so we need systems and ideas that are applicable to the needs of those people. Once we're all skinny then sure we can strut around with our shirts off earing honey and some fruit. Dr Berry is trying to help where the help is needed.

Carnivore is helping me successfully manage Prediabetes and PCOS consequences. My blood glucose is around 100 down from 117. Weight 225 down from 269 since midAugust 2022. Carnivore works for me.

I'm doing carnivore, but every now and then, I will have some non starchy veg and a handful of berries. I believe that our ancestors would have done similar when times were hard for meat and fish!

I appreciate that these two minds got together to have a respectful discussion on their different views and beliefs. These kinds of talks are crucial to share information and shed light on different ideas. I think Dr. Berry makes the most impactful comment when he says, “We are all just fumbling around in the dark.” I appreciate both points of view, they both have very good arguments. More importantly, I very much appreciate that these men and many more are using their expertise to keep fighting for the truth through all the lies we have literally been fed for decades. These talks have been invaluable to my own journey and I am grateful for it.

Just had a thought occur to me. When I was a kid, our neighbors had a horse that they were discussing. They said it had "foundered". Meaning that it just kept eating, past the point of being physically full. Intestines were blocked and they eventually had to put the animal down. This animal was fed oats, and corn based feed. It was probably never "satisfied" because horses are meant to graze on grasses for the most part. They normally do not eat the high carb, sugar laced diet that they are fed in captivity. When I was a carb addict, I sometimes would eat until I could not hold anymore, but was always unsatisfied. Since going "Ketovore", I am rarely hungry. I also don't stress eat anymore, because I am rarely depressed and full of anxiety, even in anxiety prone situations.

Heavy fruit for 10 years while “eating healthy”! I added Manuka honey every day for allergies (I was told it was good for allergies). Then came the blood test with high ALT and AST, which was from a fatty liver and high insulin. Keto healed my liver in a few months and now 1.5 years latter I’m carnivore and thriving. Thanks for the wisdom doctor berry! Also allergies are gone now also👍

I'm watching both of your videos as fast as I can implementing everything I can as I learn the Carnivore way of TRULY LIVING. I have hope for healing after years of illnesses and more "diagnosis" than I can remember. Thank you both for contributing to saving my life, truly. But I wanted to be snarky and remind us that the "medical community " DID quite recently restrict our breathing on a National level, while simultaneously destroying mental and physical health worldwide. So my friends out there, listen to any doctor bucking the system with honestly and a true desire to heal our fellow man. I salute you gentlemen!!!❤

I live in the tropics (Philippines), and we have several fruit trees. The only fruits available year round are bananas and coconut. The rest, like mangoes and avocados will be raining for a month to 6 weeks, then die down. Farmers have hacks to get them to bear fruit more often, but typically it's just one season if no tampering.

Meat butter 4eggs daily 260 lbs down to 215 My waist is finally 35 inches my height of 6'. No meds. My fair lady has had similar results. It is all from listening and learning from you both definitely can't argue with all the great testimonials. Definitely need more doctors like you.Thanks

If you’re walking 20 miles thru the forest, climbing 60 foot trees, sweating up a storm and sleeping like a log at night, chances are you can eat anything.

You guys are preaching to the choir, I love listening to you! You both make so many valuable points, in spite of your minor differences. At the end of the day, you both want everyone to be healthy and happy.😊 I will happily share this video!👏👏👏

I like to call what Paul Saladino does the Bear Diet because it incorporates meat, fruit and honey. I think if it works for him that's great. I sometimes add fruit to my diet for regularity

So Saladino is living a lifestyle of 3 hrs a day surfing and eating non-hybridized fruit. That is not how most of us live. We need to keep that in mind when considering his diet. Most of us shop mainstream grocery stores and many work desk jobs with very little exercise. Real world lives do not compare to Saladino world.

I’m thankful that Dr. Berry stood on the Proper Human Diet! We need that!!

When I did a carnivore diet, over time I struggled with dehydration/electrolytes and after a few months felt terrible even with salt and electrolytes. After adding in some fruit, I feel much better. I think Dr. Berry knows his stuff and is a true health advocate. I thought I was an anomaly so hearing this was helpful.

I think this discussion is perfect. I think they are both trying to be a part of the solution of figuring out what is truly healthy or not. I think Dr. Berry is right when he says meat is the answer. I think that Saladino is right when he says that natural and proper carbs aren't inherently evil. I think our problem, in the US, is processed foods, too much added sugars, too much cheap seed oils, and too much fake stuff in our food. All that on top of the fact we've become SO SEDENTARY. Working for your food and livelihood and survival is one hell of a workout. This conversation is making me think a little differently about my carnivore diet in a wholesome way. Carbs are fine but you have to know yourself. Make adjustments accordingly. Can't handle them at all? Then don't eat them. Do you feel ok and are all vitals and bloodwork looking ok? Then you can have some natural carbs. The food pyramid is trash regardless. I think a largely meat and fat based diet, with occasional fruit or berries is probably fine.

I failed my first attempt at carnivore because I was stopping before full satiation. When I started eating to the point of being stuffed, the weight began coming off and my energy level rose significantly.

What a pleasure to hear two of my health gurus hashing out thoughts in a respectful and truth-seeking way. This is one of the huge benefits of our current technology and times.

I think Dr. Berry is correct for most people. Whose circumstances do not allow/require the activity level that requires a lot of carbs. I think Dr saladino’s points are completely valid for someone that is able to be/needs to be extremely active.

Dr. Berry, you are a very intelligent man. You have taught me a huge amount of information on my current diet. My only SUGGESTION is, when you have someone on to learn their journey, you give them the courtesy to finish what they are saying before you explain your spin on the conversation. I found it hard to intake the information Paul was trying to present, with those interruptions. ❤️

I've tried both strict Carnivore and Dr. Saladino's diet. I'm better and thriving on Paul Saladino's version of "Carnivore/animal based. I'm less hungry, have more energy, Especially when I work out, I perform way better with fruits on my diet. I can fast longer. It works so much better on me.

Many years ago when I gave up smoking, I put on an unwanted fifteen pounds. Without consulting anyone, I cut out sugar and starch and the weight came off with ease, and without undue hunger stress. Now I know that was a low carb diet! Instinctively I knew what would work, and I can’t understand why it’s taking mainstream medicine to realise. Thank goodness for doctors like Ken Berry 🙏

I'm definitely leaning towards fruits being an ancestorally coherent and health-optimising food. Especially around the equator

This was an amazing conversation. Beautiful demonstration of how to have healthy conversations and disagree without drama!

Dr. Saladino, you are a very healthy and extremely active man. Good for you! For folks like me extremely insulin resistant and, who gain weight by just looking at food, I listen to Dr. Berry. However, there are folks who get away with eating carbs. I know I am not one of them. Thank you both for doing what you are doing!

I love when great minds have conversations, and respectfully disagree. The truth is, there is NO one "diet" that fits all...so it's okay for there to be many different eating protocols available to everyone so that each individual can find what works best for them individually. We need to stop trying to be "right" or the "superior diet"...just find what works for your health and support others who are caring for their health, even if it looks different from your own journey.

Thank you so much Dr Berry and Dr Saladino, I really appreciate both of your perspectives and I think you are wonderful for asking these questions and providing your insights and all this data. It’s invaluable ❤

My grandparents ate whole fruit vegetables and meats beef dripping no processed foods they ate fish and beans the one thing they didn’t eat is pasta and rice the grew there own vegetables and fruits also the both died in late 90s and was never unwell or overweight

A great example of how people can share differing ideas while be respectful.

Two very intelligent Doctors agreeing to disagree at times on a very professional level. Enjoyable!

Thank you gentlemen, great talk, very, very helpful. Dr. Saladino, chapeau 🎩for your patience with your fellow dr. Berry who means sincerely well but did not hunt with indigenous people in Tanzania as you did. You both have a slightly different perspective due to your heart felt responsibilities to each of your target groups, and these differences in opinion bring forth high quality frameworks for us listeners, to better position and understand our wonderful carnivore adventures with. So valuable, thank you so much both of you, for all of your sharing and ventilating all of your knowledge and experience. Truely wonderful.

Dr Berry you're such a great and humble human being. It's true when you say we don't know it all but you are trying your best to find out the best way to help people through our diet live a longer life. Un abrazo desde España

" two acorns and half a rats tail " ! I just love Dr Berry ❤️

I'm with you Doc Berry. Fruit makes me fat. I removed it from my diet 15 years ago. People thought I was crazy not to eat fruit. Thought I was even crazier when I said I gain weight on it. Nice to know that I wasn't crazy all these years. Oh, and back then I ran approximately 25-30 miles/week, weight trained 5 days a week and taught a weight training class at my local YMCA 2 day a week. Yep, some of us just get chubby a lot faster than others.

I have been keto/carnivore five years now .. I am 49 female .. I am 5’5” 120 pounds .. I am on a health journey not weight loss .. I have not lost weight in 5 years… I stayed the exact same 120 pounds ….. A1c 4.6 -Fasting insulin one. .. I have hypothyroid very cold … recently started increasing the carb a little bit of vegetable and fruit so hopefully I can warm up .. ❤️wonderful information ! I watch all your videos❤ both of y’all thank you so much❤

Confused. If my blood sugar is 2 or 3, I'd be dead. I start getting symptoms when my sugar is 70, and the lower it falls, the worse I get. My Mother was the same way. Also, I think the main reason our food now makes us sick, is because man has contaminated it with plastics, chemicals, genetic modification, hormone alterations, fattening up animals by giving them things that are not a part of their diet. I think the human genetic makeup plays a role in what diet is appropriate for them. People that live near the water will naturally eat more seafood, and people that are landlocked will naturally eat more plants and turf based sources. Also youth and activity plays a big role. When I was a kid, I could eat as much as I wanted, as often as I wanted, and whatever I wanted and I would not gain weight. I wasn't very active as a kid. I didn't have weight problems until the mid 1990's when everything started becoming genetically modified. So I got active, joined a gymnasium, and was able to control my weight that way. As time goes by, aging, and health catching up with me, I slowed down, became sick, physically disabled, unable to exercise, and hate just about every kind of food except for pizza, pasta, breads, rice, and I LOVED steel cut oatmeal that you had to cook for a year, and I loved cream of wheat, with sugar, cinnamon, butter (I always did use REAL butter and whole cream. On occasion, churn my own butter) that was all good, but I am also sick all the time, the weight is more than it has ever been in all my life, and I am miserable. And despite all this misery and these allergies, going into a big upheaval after eating, I still continue the same diet. Mostly because of money, and because habits are hard to break, and being disabled and unable to do things we look for quick and easy, something that can be boiled or microwaved, because we just do not feel like, nor can tolerate standing in a kitchen, sanitizing everything, getting the sink full of dishes, then cleaning everything up again, only to do it all again in six or seven hours, and the next day. Life is more complicated than it needs to be and for those of us that are sick, because we have been poisoned by the food industry and LIED to by The American Heart Association about oatmeal, cream of wheat, and Cheerios, life becomes impossible. Literally sick and tired to the point of exhaustion. Too tired and sick to even go to the gymnasium, despite our New Year Resolutions that are out the window by February.

The book "The Big Fat Surprise" literally is about how all those studies were muddied. Just finished Paul's book "carnivore code" and found it to be a great starting point. Eliminate everything first, give body time to heal/adjust then add back what fits your body. I am currently in my 3rd week of 100% carnivore and waiting on the book "lies my dr. Told me." I am feeling absolutely fabulous. My workouts and energy have exploded. The scale is slowly moving in the right direction. Sadly i didn't get numbers on fasting insulin and c-peptide but numbers i do have clearly show metabolic syndrome. I eat nothing but beef, butter, tallow and water. I've got blood work coming in 5 months and I intend on being armed with information to get my dr. Out from under his rock. Love watching both your channels. ✌ ☮

It’s nice to see two adults can have an intelligent, respectful conversation. Thank you

So sorry you’re suffering so much right now Wendy. I am no stranger to pain from inflammation, it helps me a lot too when I simplify my diet to the few things that won’t cause any problems. Thanks for sharing your experience with us. God bless you guys.❤

This is the most respectful “battle” I’ve every witnessed, but I guess that’s to be expected when your brain isn’t inflamed and full of seed oils

I am 53 years old and have a lung disease called aveolar hemorrhaging, and possibly bronchitis obliterans organized pneumonia which was diagnosed 5 or 6 years ago. The steroids they had me on had such major side effects that I felt like I was just waiting to die. One ER dr told me I was going to die the next time I got pneumonia. I could barely get out of bed, and I had to go on disability after working as a registered pharmacist for 20 years........Then I woke up.........I went off the meds (against my dr's advice) and went on a STRICT carnivore diet and actually used Dr Berry's electrolyte drink they recommended to prevent the "keto flu", and I also joined a couple of beef groups to keep me updated on any new information coming up regarding eating a carnivore diet. I even kept a diary for the first six months to follow my progress. Well, my dr went from telling me "I was crazy to eat like this", to a year later, telling me to just continue with whatever I was doing. I am off my lung meds, off my oxygen, and am still here and now even work 20 hours a week at a gas station by my house. I won't do pharmacy because I have some TBI from low oxygen (it would be in the low 60's when I was in the ICU), and I won't put any patient at risk because I know my memory is not good at all anymore and I would be nervous I would make a mistake. Carnivore SAVED my life!!! I had gained 120 pounds in one year from the 240mg's of prednisone they had me taking daily. I was also diagnosed with type 2 doabetes and was actually even insulin dependent for a couple of years. The steroids also caused EXTREME anxiety, EXTREME depression , and EXTREME insomnia. I have two or three years that are just a blur because of the steroids and low oxygen, and even though I knew a lot of these symptoms were caused by the meditation my lung specialist had me on, ut qas a horrible existence for me. It hurt to lay down, and it hurt to get up. I spent a lot of time crying and also found out that when you suddenly get sick, you learn who your real friends and family are. I lost most of my weight I gained (70 pounds) just by going off the prednisone, and I lost the last 50 pounds in four months when I switched to carnivore, eating as much and as often as I wanted to. I eat until I am full, and usually I am only hungry once a day. Once a month I also fast for 48 hours to get my body in "autophagy" mode. I am back to my normal weight that I was at when I first hot sick, I am off insulin, and my last two A1C's were in the normal range. I tell everyone about carnivore because the benefits for me have been AMAZING!!! And it is funny that I work at a gas station because the only thing I can eat at the store is our hard boiled eggs. I rarely sweat at all anymore, and most issues I am dealing with now are actually just side effects still from the EXTREMLY high dose of prednisone. I have bone issues now and the prednisone ruined my eyesight too. I went from perfect eyesight to needing 4.50 reading glasses. (I am actually supposed to wear bifocals, but after tripping and falling, I just went back to the reading glasses.) Sorry I am rambling, but if my daughter wouldn't have talked me into trying this diet, I know I would have already passed away. I don't even tell most people I was diagnosed as "terminal", I fired my pulmonologist, I quit seeing any specialists for my lungs and I just stick with my primary dr who now is supportive of the way I eat. I went from being in the hospital at least monthly, to not being in the hospital for my lungs for at least a year now. I am not completely healthy now, but COMPARED to how I was on all of those medications before, I am so much better and I am so grateful that I am able to work my 20 hours a week now. I appreciate feeling good, because I know what it is like to feel horrible all of the time. The only medication I HAVE to take now is warfarin 10mg (a blood thinner) because the alveolar hemorrhaging has led to nine pulmonary embolisms and I only mention this because I HAVE NOT had one more since I went carnivore.............I follow Dr Berry, Jordan Peterson and his daughter, and I listen to lots of talks regarding carniore. I have considered writing a book about carnivore saving my life, but I am concerned my memory issues may interfere with my efforts. Though, now that I think about it, my kids (two are grown), they would probably help. And also, I did that diary on my change in diet, so I guess I already have started. Lol!!! I have learned soooooo many AMAZING things about carnivore, and am amazed how many people this has helped. We need to get the word out about carnivore!!! Thank you both for doing this RU-vid video!!! I went to college and pharmacy school for a total of seven years (graduated in 1995), and am very disappointed we were just taught the "pyramid diet", and that was it. (Now I think that is sad.) Great video!!! NOTE: my first day eating carnivore was August 20th, 2020. (Oh, and Dr Berry's "keto flu" drink worked perfectly for me.)

Thanks so much for this video! During my last quarterly doctor visit a few weeks ago, I was down 45lbs (below 200 for the first time in more than 20 years). My a1c came down from 10.7 to 7.2, without the 4 shots of insulin that I had been taking for several years. But my doctor still tried to push Ozempic on me. I was so disgusted by this that I have tried to find a new doctor, so far unsuccessful. Anyway, I still have work to do with my a1c, but I am going to continue doing keto-vore, exercise and IF. I have learned so much from your informative videos!

Sugar is addictive. Somebody should open a rehab to get people off of sugar. After a month or however long it takes for the cravings to go away people will be cured. It would make a million dollars.

Mangoes were brought to Central America from India. Even the ones you find in the jungle.

Dr Saladino is relatively young and has always been fit and never overfat (by my understanding). What his body will tolerate and still remain healthy has nothing to do with what another individual will need to do in order to regain health.

Love this! Ken is so right!! I don’t care that Saladino eats a plant based diet but he really needs to quit calling it animal based. He eats a high carb paleo diet!

I appreciate both physicians speaking about this. ❤❤❤ 30 years ago I was 30 and started a high-protein diet and basically fixed my metabolism, and took my body pain away. I was super lean and I loved it. I’ve had chronic body pain, all over my body for 31 years. Of course I’m now 60 years old, and for a myriad of variables, my body pain is a lot worse. Most of it may be stress, environmental exposure , etc.. I’m going to add to my medical chart that I’m allergic to wheat and sugar. 😮. When I eat these, my skin burns the next day and my peripheral nerves hurt the next day.😢 Someone that can surf for 2 to 3 hours a day has a lifestyle conducive to massive quantities of exercise, according to typical American culture. Most of us cannot dedicate that much time to exercise each day. Household exercise, although helps range of motion and does burn some calories, I’m not able to get stronger unless I go to a gym where I’m doing water weights or weight lifting. Dr. Barry is correct each human being is unique and one must dial in what variables work for them the best. 🙏🏾💗⭐️

Dam ken is extremely clued up in this field, he makes logical points against all arguments

This is my favorite conversation on the topic. I can’t wait for the science to catch-up. As someone with a much higher activity level I found myself craving fruit months into just eating meat. When I added small amounts of fruit and honey, I felt that I really benefited with performance and recovery. Thank you both for really pushing the envelope!

Best explanation of why diets do not work i have heard. We are hardwired to feel full; if not, we will give into temptations.

I love Dr. Berry, I believe he is better doing monologue...... Dr. Saladino is one of the best humble person. The first time I saw him was in a Drs show where they tried to rip him off, and I was so upset those doctors treated him 😢 and he still was calm and 💯 percent on his studies. Thank you Doctors i love u both.

Great to hear both Saladino and Berry share thoughts in the carnivore world. We live for ourselves and are free to try anything that may work for us. No dogma!

I love Paul's current diet. I was going rapidly downhill on carnivore. The addition of just a few carbs helped me tremendously. Better sleep, no fatigue, good digestion, regularity, better eyesight, and much more.

For 10 weeks I had a very active job. I ate everything. Granola bars, at least 1 candy bar per day, sandwiches, sweetened oatmeal every day, american chinese food and 2 glasses if wine every night. I lost 40 lb. Felt great! I have no idea what the lab numbers were. This was due to hiking through steep terrain for 6-8 hours per day carrying timber cruise equipment, water and my huge lunch. Now, 40 years later i am omnivore, meat based, avoid seed oils and cured my arthritis with clean paleo prescribed by my MD.

So appreciate that these 2, and others , are NOT the screeching, my way or go to JAIL... Ideologue s. . They exchange they explore agree, and disagree. 💃. Also, they display respect for the rest of us trying to learn and explore ! 🍀❣️

He said "When I talked about this on Joe Rogan" I wish Ken would have a chance to do that, not because that guy, because how many people would hear about what is important with the opinion of Ken on this, at least for me the person I value most for learning and helping others understand these topics.

Dr. Barry and Dr. Saladino are advancing public knowledge on the proper human diet and unanswered nutrition questions better than anyone, ever. Carry on Dr.s

Much respect for both of you! 🙏🏽

These types of conversations are the best! We need more people like you in the health care system. I know my doctors tell me to eat more fruits and veggies and my IBS just gets worse or stays the same. It does not get better. Well.. I mostly do not have to run to the toilet asap, but that still happens. I am starting the carnivore diet this coming monday, but i have decided to stop eating candy and drinking sodas yesterday. No more fruits and veggies until i have done three months of carnivore! After that i might include some fruits and veggies. Maybe a ketovore diet?

I absolutely love Ken Berry...He is my "go to" guy for nutrition and diet info. But I wish he would give Paul a chance to talk too ! I would like to hear a bit more of his perspective on eating fruit, honey, etc. This is my first introduction to Paul. They are both so inspiring to listen to. Thank you, Gentlemen !! Awesome show !

I did clean, strict KETO for about 9 months and it helped me with carb carvings and inflammation for sure. (I did it for "fibromyalgia" and long term Lymes). I was extremely fataigued and I am normally a super high energy outdoor athlete. I just was not getting enough healthy fats or calories and felt deprived most of the time. Switched to a higher fat carnivore about two months ago. I am sleeping and feel so much better with restored energy. As a woman, for the first time in my life I felt I had permission to EAT FOOD. I cannot explain how liberating it was to go completely carnovire! Thank you for this video!!!!

The problem with honey is that it's the most counterfeit food in the market. None of the jars you see in the supermarket are the real deal. You either harvest your own honey or your neighbor/relative harvest their honey. We consume way too much fruit that is not native to our country like tropical fruits which are loaded with sugar. The other problem we have in the US is we live a very sedentary life we drive everywhere and hardly walk.

KEN, let the man finish his point!!! Be patient brother!

I have worked so hard this past year to bring my blood sugar down and improve my metabolic health that I would not want to spoil my progress by consuming carbs, even honey/fruit, which are supposedly 'natural'. I went off the carnivore diet a couple of times for birthdays and the like and boy, did I pay for it. My GERD came back with a vengeance as well as my arthritic pain and stiffness. What has really helped as well has been upping my good fats such as butter, tallow and bacon grease. Thanks for the conversation, guys.

The fruit and honey pushed my blood glucose higher and caused cravings.

I have actually done that experiment. Just a few things changed after adding around 100g carbs in the form of fruit, dairy and honey. Both tests performed early in the morning fasted (12h). Before experiment (carnivore consisting of pork, chicken and predominantly ruminant meat and organs, and eggs): Fasting BG mg/dL = 85 TG mg/dL = 133 HDL mg/dL = 104 LDL mg/dL = 371 AST U/L = 30 ALT U/L = 24 After experiment (adding around 100g carbs in the form of fruit, dairy and honey): Fasting BG mg/dL = 91 TG mg/dL = 113 HDL mg/dL = 97 LDL mg/dL = 152 (this was the main change) AST U/L = 27 ALT U/L = 20 The rest was more or less the same. Fasting insulin 3.6, glucagon around 170, HbA1c 5.2... Just sharing as an interesting observation that, in my case (probably lean mass hyper-responder) adding carbs shifted my LDL tremendously. Who knows what is better. I only know that I do not feel much different, except that my taste for sweets gets way down when I add carbs daily. For instance, if I eat 0 carbs, I can eat 2-3 full spoons of honey in a row until I get satisfied. If I eat 100g carbs daily, half a spoon is already a little bit too much for my tongue. The point here is that nobody knows what you need to eat. But your body knows, unless your body composition is not athletic (at least to a minimum) and your food is not real, because then even your body doesn't know, and you are screwed, and that's when you go to Dr. Berry or Dr. Saladino.

I have been almost 100% carnivore for 33 days, except a little honey once in a while. I have no cravings, losing weight, no more aches and pains, sleep like a baby, and I'm 64 and overweight, tho it's coming off. I have noticed when I've had honey, I start to have a bit of craving for sugar. It doesn't take much for me. I love so many things about this ancestral way of eating including figuring out how to design our own way of eating that works best for us. There are important perimeters, but we can play with this and can see if/how our goals are being affected. Thanks to both of these docs and to the most High! 🙏

YES Dr Ken!!!! I fatten easily. I am a 57 year old woman. Menopause and an endomorph and have metabolic syndrome there is no way I could eat all that fruit and honey everyday. Unfortunately!!! I really wish I could. My body just wants more of it and the more I eat that then spirals into me eating sweeter carbs or breads etc. So Dr Ken you are my doctor for sure on this! ❤ And Dr Paul doesn’t realise just how high intensity 2-3 hours of surfing 🏄‍♀️ is a day. Dr Paul needs to accept that his diet is right for his body and cannot recommend it to the broader modern human being! This is where the issue is for how I see his theory. I also would say cortisol increases insulin too so if there is an insulin spike with cortisol and I eat fruit that just feeds the insulin more. So we fumble in the dark because of various complexities 🙏🤝❤️ I do love Dr Paul Saladino’s passion and no doubt has done tonnes of research too. However, the research he does supports what works for him in my humble opinion. Thanks again doctors 🥰🙌🙏 Dr Paul I live in Victoria Australia! Close to Antartica lol 😆 so we cannot base the tropical theory here 😅

Saladino is my hero.. Thanks to Dr. Paul Saladino I finally feel my very, very best. I could not, for the life of me, understand why my electrolites were always low. Not for lack of salt because I can put down salt like the best of them.. I had leg cramps, heart palpitations and constipation while strictly carnivore, not to mention that stinky keto breath that was killing everyone around me. NO, thank you.. My body was telling me it should not be like this.. Enter fruit, goat keifer and honey and FINALLY leg cramps, heart palpitations, constipation and stinky breath completely gone. Still maintaining satiety for hours and hours after my meals. Two meals a day. Kept my weight just where I need it.. I'm always calm and sleep like a newborn baby. Just goes to show we are all different. You need to tweak until you find your happy.

I had a Nissen fundiplication procedure for reflux 7 months ago. It didn’t work well. I still have reflux. I’m trying to stop taking protonics for acid since that medication creates malnutrition. After 2 weeks 95% carnivore, I’m noticing certain improvements but I am still suffering with reflux. I’m going to continue with carnivore hoping for more improvements

This talk is so incredible and certainly makes us think! I had Roux Y and struggle to maintain my vitamin and mineral levels. Only when I went carnivore have I been able to normalize my blood work. I hope to be able to add some fruits with seeds in them back into my diet soon, but right now I am working to get my RA in remission and so I am very limited. I loved this talk. They brought up many of my concerns.

Dr Berry, you're so kind and congenial. I've noticed this before and often. I enjoyed this video when it first aired with Dr Saladino. BTW, most people cannot surf everyday for 3 hours nor hang out at the equator. Too many carbs seem to make you want more carbs. Grain is especially horrible. I'm so appreciative you two did this discussion. My electrolyte imbalance was mostly cured within two weeks of carnivore and completely cured within a month. About two years in, I started your recommended daily minerals. I'm still dealing with BP but am getting there, 3 yrs carnivore come Jan '23. I have to eat more like you, Dr Berry, or I experience symptoms. I didn't do this for weight but do notice immediate symptoms of gas and weight if I have too many carbs. Love you guys!

I am on a carnivore diet for last one year now and i have lost around 55 pounds. I did not feel so good in the beginning but I introduced some honey in my bullet tea and also some small portion of fruit and i feel much better and I have not seen any spike in my weight or anything. Most of my diet is Mutton and eggs and butter and cheeses and sometimes chicken thighs. Along with that I also eat some olives and I feel just good. Not all bodies are same and I am 50 years of age

My dogs thrive on fruit and raw meat, organs and bones. Its called the no more vets diet.

I love watching you guys. I’m 52 and new to the carnivore diet, RA hit me out of nowhere about 3 months ago, I was in so much pain, my joints started swelling with arthritis so I started searching for a cure. That’s when I ran across the carnivore diet, I mention this because I’m not over weight and I didn’t get into this diet for weight loss but I have lost 10 lbs in 3 weeks, my chest has firmed up like I had been going to the gym, I started eating watermelon 2 weeks in my diet for the minerals and H3O that’s you get from watermelon, I felt like I was cheating the carnivore diet but I wanted to try the watermelon for the benefits you get from watermelons. I’m feeling 90% better and almost back to my old self again and I owe it all to the carnivore diet. I’m considering doing TRT treatments while I’m on this diet, can you please make a video on the carnivore diet and TRT? Thank you

I love Dr Ken's complete honesty - that animal is "going to break out of the cage and eat the experimenter!" If you restrict calories! So true.

Loved this discussion. I am new to carnivore but I did not give up my honey to do it. I use it minimally. I consider honey God's perfect food. John the Baptist lived on Locust and Wild Honey.... that sounds like honey is a natural partner for the carnivore diet. :-) The honey has not hindered any of the fantastic things I have been experiencing since I started this diet. Including a slow and steady weight loss, joint pain gone, brain and body feeling great, and the bloated, uncomfortable feelings gone. I think further down the road I will try some fruit. I will probably go very slowly and try to allow at least 3-5 hours before having my meat. I like the possibilities of this diet but I need to do the carnivore part first. Love all your good information and discussions. 🙂

Let Paul finish his thought. He never interrupted you. Both of you are amazing but we wanna hear both of you ❤️❤️

Great conversation. I've learned so much. What caught my attention among many things, is that honey has nitric oxide or transforms to that in the body. Therefore, would that be helpful for someone with hypertension? I am so happy I found you guys' channels. Thanks for your sincere desire to help the human race live a better quality of life. God speed to you both!

Really interesting and informative conversation. You guys are super respectful of one another. Ken leans into open mindedness and we all learn from it. Unfortunately, honey and fruit heavy diets are not real world for everyone but no one diet is a fit for all, period. I do think location and culture is very important when considering one’s optimal diet. Time, genetics, and financial means play a part as well throughout our lives. Whether you reside close to the equator, a farmer’s market, or run of the mill grocery store, we all need to examine our own bodies and consider many factors when landing the right diet/lifestyle to live the best life possible. I am 51, have lived with Crohns Disease and Ulcerative Colitis since I was 25. I stopped drinking at 47 and when I turned 50, I started a clean Keto diet. It changed my life in amazing ways. I am now venturing into a more Ketovore diet as the fiber I was consuming in some veggies was causing some bloating. So far, it’s been a change for the better. I wish that my doctors and dietitians had given me the right information 25 years ago. Our country is and has been drowning in a sea of bad information and what I would call medical malpractice for far too long. Amen to people like these ballsy doctors for speaking out and challenging big food, big pharma, and willfully ignorant doctors.