I Didn't Break This One! // 2203.5 Motors on 6s // Diatone Roma F4

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Micro guy flies a heavy quad :) 4inch props are a better match for these beefy motors.
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@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

For right now I only see this listed at Diatone and Banggood. Does comes in a 4s version as well. Diatone - Roma F4 Analog - bit.ly/3ln0LUE HD/Vista - bit.ly/3AiVkdO Power (Add your own DJI) - bit.ly/3AAnjG9 Banggood - Roma F4 - Use Coupon "BGNickBurns" 8% off Analog - bit.ly/3Fsm0fS HD/Vista - bit.ly/3uSEL7n

@dronereviewman9580 2 года назад

😀

@Therberg2500 2 года назад

Hi Nick, nice review as always! How is the overall noise level of this quad? Is it something that would annoy your neighbors if you flew it often? I got a bit of feedback from one of my neighbors about some of the noise. I did start flying a 5" HD Nazgul 6s this summer after flying micros for a couple of years and of course it is a bit louder in a different way (lower pitch), I do try to limit how many flights with the 5" to just 2 before I switch back to the micros but that still didn't seem to make them happy...

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

@@dronereviewman9580 😀

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

@@Therberg2500 It does have the potential to being annoying, especially if the neighbors were outside while I was flying. I would think most micros aren't more annoying than say a law mower, but they do sound different. It could be the noise is just different and that is catching their attention.

@chadhilburn5687 2 года назад

Great video yet again. I'm always looking for Mr. Nick Burns in my sub feed! Looking forward to more micro coverage and love the 4 inchers.

@TitanFPV 2 года назад

Watching you fly a 4” in the back yard is the best. Great job of taking the beast. This is another 4” frame I’ve been thinking of building.

@kurtzFPV 2 года назад

Thanks for another comprehensive review. And I agree,, would be tempting to dedicate as a racer if it had swappable arms. I would get extra arms and motors and m30 connectors for quick swaps. I've been working on your roll following the yaw spin trick and almost have it down.

@MCsCreations 2 года назад

Fantastic flying, Nick!!! Sick as F! 😃 I like the quad! The frame really looks beautiful! Great review as always!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@Nspecthergadget2010 2 года назад

That dive in the trees looks so cool!

@thfpv4974 2 года назад

Another fantastic review thanks buddy 🥂💯👍🏼

@z506fpv5 2 года назад

Nice flying!

@dronereviewman9580 2 года назад

Glad you did not break this one!! great flying

@SpaceFaceFPV 2 года назад

Wow that first clip bro, RIPPING IT UPPP!!! 🔥😍🔥 I LOVE diatone and mamba is the FC I use in all my builds. Seeing they have wire protection on the arms is legit awesome. I've gotten into the habit of using kevlar tubing for all my builds since chopping too many motor wires when I bend a prop. Haven't needed to do repairs anywhere as much now! [answered-analog] Just to clarify, was that analog or digital DVR!? It's so cleannnn. Lately my mamba builds have also had super clean video, I think they fixed a bunch of noise from their FC/4in1 esc's on later/more recent production runs. I absolutely would love to own and rip one of these. I might actually pick it up, would be my first prebuilt in 2 years almost!

@AKtoTok Год назад

Yup this thing looks fun as heck

@ChainsawFPV 2 года назад

I am always impressed with the quality of Diatone products.

@opossumfpv 2 года назад

Just got my first diatone stack. The f722 app fc is dope!

@shogunemperor 2 года назад

brilliant! Looks solid!

@miguelt.7997 2 года назад

Man you're ripping! feel the Burns!!! : )

@ChrisParayno 2 года назад

The fact you can rip this beast in your backyard again and again is truly amazing. Keep up the amazing works. Diatone just had a sale and I picked up the power pack for only $130. Can't wait to get it.

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

Lol, thank you

@AfafPrinceOSH 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPV hi, a question. How would a 2005 motor perform in 4 inch class?

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

@@AfafPrinceOSH I would expect it to do well and be much lighter than 220x motors. Less weight out on the end of the arm should help arm durability.

@AfafPrinceOSH 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPV a volume comparation between 2203.5 & 2005 stators shows 1330 & 1570 mm^3. Would it increase the performance for a quad weighing 320+gm on 4 inch?

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

@@AfafPrinceOSH Well I don't follow formulas for my choices to much. Our components have so many variables. For motors: Weight, more or less, low throttle response vs top end performance. More motor volume does indicate it should handle a larger prop with more authority at a higher efficiency.

@wingsounds13 2 года назад

Hey Nick... I saw a maneuver that I hadn't noticed before and really like. I like the power loop over the house, power on and inverted doing a half loop as opposed to the punch and float that you normally do. This quad is definitely on the large side for your style and flying space but it looks like it is maneuverable enough for you to manage reasonably comfortably. Still, the space is better for 3" light weight quads. This quad certainly has the power to be well suited to a much larger space. More good stuff. :thumbsup: J.P.

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

Yes, I don't always do that, often I need to have a certain amount of power and weight, otherwise I end up short, or I have to stay on the throttle so long its not so much fun. :)

@steve_beatty 2 года назад

Had to recheck to see if I had clicked on the right channel 🤔 Nick flying a 6s rig ?..in his back yard 😲...lol..🖖🏼

@MCsCreations 2 года назад

🖖😊

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

lol, I need to be sure to request 4s versions. I am pretty sure I did with this one. I guess the manufacturers are baiting me to fly bigger and more cell count quads.

@MrCrowleyandhisdrone 2 года назад

Nice Quad, great job

@sketchpv3080 2 года назад

I like the idea of side plates. They really keep things cleaner when running props out.

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

The clip on sides was a good move. Super easy to gain access if we need it.

@SpaceFaceFPV 2 года назад

Lol...*SNNAAPP* totally can relate. It still makes me jump sometimes man. It's a good reminder of weather or not the pack is fully charged too.

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

Yes it is truely a different plug in experience 😄

@FlyerTuck 2 года назад

You da man Nick!

@KelkieFPV 2 года назад

have u seen th long range version it has part numbers printed on all parts and not a one peace base has a single front arm and two rear arms. real good frame i have it on 2004 2550kv nbd flow 6s

@sammoan7017 2 года назад

Are the bottom plates switchable between the 3.5 and 4? Might be interested in converting my 3.5 with a bottom plate

@hubieh3374 2 года назад

Not about this product, but with your rep, would love to see you work with a mfr to produce a rubber/kevlar strap for 3s and smaller toothpick/micros... That emblem would look so cool on a lipo strap!!

@KernsJW 2 года назад

Looks nice! But unless I see a super deal right now, I'm going hold off on buying anything else seeing that winter is coming fast!

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

You get cold and snow where you are?

@paulgeorge1069 2 года назад

Holy crap Nick a 4" in your backyard. There goes the neighborhood. Lol

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

Probably what the neighbors thought. I did ask my wife and kids if it could be heard in the house, they said they didn’t notice so I am hopeful I didn’t disturb to many neighbors

@helmuthuneke1775 2 года назад

nice review, had just build my first 5 inch quad, like you i fly only micros up to 4 inch. its a nice experience, it feels really big because it is. happy flying

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

YES! These feel so huge. And I am hyper aware of the damage potential they have at this size and weight.

@normalname Год назад

Have you tried any other props on this? Wondering is the gem fan 4052 would work.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I have not. They will work but if work means the pid tune doesn’t need adjustment probably not. Thank us a pretty big change in prop pitch

@brianfreland9065 2 года назад

Nice ripping for 6s in the backyard! Do you prefer this or the avant avio 3.5?

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

Oh the avio3.5. I am less comfortable with this and it’s weight

@brianfreland9065 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPV yeah, I think I'd prob feel the same. I've never had one that heavy or 6s. Prob best to stick to something smaller for the time being lol. I think I'm finally ready to just pull the trigger on the avio.

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

@@brianfreland9065 I need to check , but I wonder if avantquads came out with a freestyle edition of the 3.5

@PropDusting 2 года назад

What do you think about them switching from a f7 40a stack to an f4 35a AIO? It seems a little backwards but, maybe the lower kv motors will not need as much amperage protection.

@spockfpv 2 года назад

Exactly what I was thinking, sounds like the F-35 is the best way to go.

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

Traditionally, we would see repair costs to be less with a flight stack, as we can replace one of the two items rather than replacing the AIO. I don't get to worried about ESC rating on those above 15amps, we see far more esc damage on smaller esc below 10amps. The f7 would future proof the quad more, as at some point we will need the f7 to effectively run betaflight, but we might kill it before that time :)

@PropDusting 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPV I worry about esc rating when a prop gets caught on a limb or when you turtle. It drives the amp draw up when the motor is under heavy load. I mostly only worry about that on 5" quads though. I like the idea of AIOs but am scared to use them unless they have a high amp rating.

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

@@PropDusting ah I would worry about it on micros too. Those AIO esc aren't generally so hardy.

@matteorosada541 2 года назад

Thank for good video and explanation about this quad! I still looking for buy, i have just one question. What you think about the 4s battery version? Thanks

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

4s battery will bring the weight down. 6s should give us longer flights. I worry about durability with the additional weight

@matteorosada541 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPV ok thanks. So, if use 6s 850 mah and mount action cam about 54 gramms you think it's not a problem?

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

@@matteorosada541 That should be fine.

@williamcleven9991 2 года назад

You have good neighbors Nick...if I fly anything louder than my GEPRC Phantom or Nanohawk X around my yard people get grumpy.

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

Yes am pretty careful not to fly to much when the close neighbors are outside enjoying the day. If I am flying and they come out I might fly one more pack before stopping for awhile

@YIMMA996TT Год назад

Hi nick Love your videos I have a problem, I lost the screw that holds the bell on my motor of the Roma f4 6s. Can’t seem to find one anywhere. Any idea where I can find one? Thank you

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

oh thats a tough one. We probably need to know the specifications for the screw. I suspect its an m3 maybe 4mm. Maybe dig around on the diatone website and fine more exact details.

@Igor-eo1kd 2 года назад

Thank you for the review I've just ruined my lovely Avant quad unfortunately. I'm looking for a replacement but I would consider other options probability. A solid top plate doesn't look like a good engineering decision. It will brake sooner or later.

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

I presume your looking for something with a canopy style body? Seems that is the way to avoid a top plate. Or is it the top plate with battery also on the top plate?

@flyfpvfish4962 2 года назад

Nice review 👌.. cool flyer.. you need a bigger yard for 6s... to fast..

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

I agree. I asked for the 4s version :)

@samtarariverasanchez59 Год назад

What’s good motors I can use for this frame with a speedy bee f405 stack ! Want it 6s?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

unfortunately I don't have much experience with 6s and in the 4inch prop category.

@iSeeFPV 2 года назад

Great review Nick! It’s really strange to see you flying a bigger quad, but after watching your flights I’m kind of curious to see you review/fly a 2Fiddy.

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

Wouldn't that be something.

@iSeeFPV 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPV not sure why, but I kind of got the “in the works” vibe there…

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

@@iSeeFPV I have thrown you have my trail :) Not really, nothing in the works with the 2Fiddy :)

@iSeeFPV 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPVI appreciate all you do and respect your opinion with gear, shouldn’t be taking up this review with another product, but hopefully and maybe 🤞

@ChrisParayno 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPV supposedly tommy has a 4"😉 version

@parker1ray 2 года назад

I have a Roma F4 long range quad. It did not fly well or work well out of the box, but after some modification, it now flies very well. GPS did not work, and the vtx was set to 25mw out of the box. I had to load a LUA script to get the 400mw that the Mamba vtx was rated at. I installed a much better satellite antenna a Matek Systems M8Q-5883. I designed and printed a TPU extended mount for the antenna and shielded the wires going to the antenna. I also moved the crossfire antenna from the back to the front. Now it gets a lock in less than a minute and flies well. Diatone should not sell these as long range and disable the satellite and set the vtx to 25mw. Makes no sense!

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

Sorry to hear the LR didn't come out of the box performing well. I am curious about the lua to get 400mw. Was this part of the myvtx with crossfire?

@parker1ray 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPV There was a how to article telling how to load it onto the Mamba vtx through the vtx tab in betaflight provided by Mamba. You had to load the script and it set the channels and increased the power levels from on to four.

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

@@parker1ray oh you mean the json file for vtx tables. Gotcha. Sorry I am so literal I get confused.

@parker1ray 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPV I frequently use technical terms such as thingamjig and whatchamcallit. I am not even sure what a json file its but all that I can tell you is the directions from Mamba were pretty good as is not the case with most Chinese companies that use Chenglish!

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

@@parker1ray That is good the directions were clear.

@SyarifFPV 2 года назад

👍👍👍

@RubyS.1 2 года назад

Not for me but looks fun.

@gadgetman404 2 года назад

You flown big drone net it's load faster than them toothpicks you normally fly

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

Not certain I understand. Its loads faster than the toothpicks?

@pirateradioFPV 2 года назад

Finally a pure 4” acro bult instead of that LR stuff 😁 My 4” acro builds usually land closer to 300g AUW, looks like those 2203,5 motors haul the thing around pretty good. 4mm arms are mandatory on the 4”, they add survivability but even more so dampen a lot of the frame oscillations. The extremely clean gyro is part of the 4” fun factor 🤔☺️ Replaceable arms lessen the noise, wonder why they chose the solid bottom plate.

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

Isn't a single bottom plate less expensive to cut and has less carbon waste? I have heard that a few times.

@pirateradioFPV 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPV If you're doing small scale cutting at home with those ~120€ CNC-machines, the material use is lower with the replaceable arms - solid bottom plate might eat most of the carbon plate, whereas with replaceable arms you can line things more efficiently. These guys probably cut enough of the frames so that they can fill the empty space between the arms with the camera sideplates etc, so the material doesn't get wasted. The tooling cost is probably fairly similar, replaceable arms don't need much more cutting than the solid plates do. So expense wise what it comes down to is the extra screws the replaceable arms need. Not sure if it's worth the savings tbh, UAVtech has proven on many occasions that the solid bottom plates are worse than the replaceable arms are.

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

@@pirateradioFPV ah, thank you for that perspective and information.

@aztecjoe29 2 года назад

I bought the plug & play and hooked up my spektrum receiver where it told me to hook up my spectrum receiver. comes with a sticker that tells you where to plug in. But I can't get it to communicate with betaflight please help

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

did you select the appropriate DSMX protocol in betaflight?

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

also is it bound?

@aztecjoe29 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPV yes

@aztecjoe29 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPV yes

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

@@aztecjoe29 do you have the uart on that the receiver is wired to?

@testpilotian3188 2 года назад

Bet your neighbours loved you with all that racket compared to the normal stuff lol

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

Thankfully, no complaints. It is a loud mouth :)

@Vitroid 2 года назад

Diatone really better stop making these, I can't afford to buy another one

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

lol. The next new diatone product will be smaller. I hope it functions well.

@sixtofive 2 года назад

I was thinking 2200 kv seems really low for 4" 4s, then I saw you pull out the big boy batteries. Lol this one looks fun!

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

lol, that 6s snap, gets me every time. I think I have just killed a component.

@KonstantinFPV 2 года назад

Really bad tune, that huge propwash... I've just rebuild 4.5 inch drone 300g AUW (350g with camera) and it flyes 4-5 min with 4mm arms. Diatone face odd direction when decide to use those pankake motors, and dont keep weight/power/efficient ratio in mind..

@KcFpv.. 2 года назад

love your Vids in general--- but sick of analog reviews...

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

oh no. Digital products have certainly slowed. Cameras are specifically stopping many new products and the manufacturers are hesitant to send out digital product for review.

@gmivisualsjason3729 2 года назад

Personally I find these drones to be overweight.....

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

Not being someone that has flown the 5inchers in years, I am not familiar with the typical weight of those vs these. Seems it is likely somewhat close in weight.

@gmivisualsjason3729 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPV actually their quite light in comparison to a freestyle 5 inch rig. But for me just watching your punch outs over the house it looked a it fat and slow. :-) Theirs also the sub 250g consideration. Yes I know these aren't marketed at that but i think they would fly better and longer with less weight

@NickBurnsFPV 2 года назад

@@gmivisualsjason3729 Maybe shotgun approach. Take what they have an see if they can gain some hot new product. I think fpv is fairly notorious for that.

@gmivisualsjason3729 2 года назад

@@NickBurnsFPV Agreed