I Don’t Know What to Say… - Nvidia RTX 4070 Super, 4070 Ti Super, 4080 Super Review

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Nvidia has released 3 new GPUs this month, the 4070 Super, 4070 Ti Super and the 4080 Super. But are they worth the super name? Do they bring AMD to shame? How well do they game?
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0:00 1080p Results
2:21 What's New
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6:12 Productivity
7:52 DLSS and RT
9:45 Power and Thermals
10:13: Deja Vu
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@josir1994 5 месяцев назад

"A modest increase in FUs" basically sums up this release.

@nicolashoffmann8805 5 месяцев назад

Bravo Sir !

@JupiterGuy1 5 месяцев назад

It a way for Nvidia to say FU to their customers other than their GPU prices

@mr702s 5 месяцев назад

Yea, just give us all the FUs

@Yacyz 5 месяцев назад

lol

@twiggsherman3641 5 месяцев назад

Linus Torvald was ahead of his time talking about Nvidia.

@zhheiimer 5 месяцев назад

Can’t wait for the 4090 titanium platinum extra super duper next year

@aquifer9480 5 месяцев назад

3 percent gains for the same price

@GK_Squid 5 месяцев назад

I hear the super cereal edition is the final form

@Foxy87 5 месяцев назад

which we have to plug right into the wall!

@Eli-zb2yj 5 месяцев назад

With 1 fps more

@AC3handle 5 месяцев назад

PLUS ULTRA!!!

@NotThatHomeless 5 месяцев назад

Loving the dots next to the GPU being talked about, makes it so much easier to track what is being talked about on the graph. I would always have to listen, pause to look over the graph, then continue the video. Huge improvement for these super info dense videos.

@nickadams3958 5 месяцев назад

Not having XTX graphs on this comparison was a huge miss

@David_Quinn_Photography 5 месяцев назад

or another move at doing what they did for the 4090 review.

@dieaking6475 5 месяцев назад

M having RX7800 nitro +

@eto1842 5 месяцев назад

and no data without DLSS on the chart of DLSS

@Clawthorne 5 месяцев назад

@@robnobertWhatever happened to her anyway? I haven't seen them show up in any video or even in the background for what seems like a good year or two now. Did they quit LTT?

@micsunday14 5 месяцев назад

Not on this list either lol. Like the latest steam survey

@beans2030 5 месяцев назад

Wow the 7900 XTX is literally off the charts!!!

@jGRite 5 месяцев назад

This comment needs more attention.

@TexasTimelapse 5 месяцев назад

🤣🤣 Top comment!

@beezle1976 5 месяцев назад

Im outraged at the lack of GT710 comparisons.

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

7900 XTX is way cheaper than RTX 4080 and provides similar performance. Most Nvidia cards are way overpriced for what you get, but their top cards really takes the cake. It's astonishing how they get people to buy them. 7900XTX provides better performance per dollar than 4080 (incl. SUPER) and usually beat Nvidia's significantly more expensive card in rasterization performance. Only in ray tracing is where Nvidia has an edge, sometimes, but the performance in ray tracing titles is so low it's kind of irrelevant. 7900XTX should be on the charts, period. They should also show prices and performance per dollar - to show where people should actually spend their money.

@Geniusinside2023 5 месяцев назад

That's why they are called SUPER lmao

@peterkafkias7282 5 месяцев назад

Where is RX 79000 XTX THOUGH?

@C0nfu510n 5 месяцев назад

Yeah seems like a big miss

@peterkafkias7282 5 месяцев назад

Only including with 2% better raster looks weird. Also in my country the rx 7900xtx is 800$ and the RTX 4080 super 1200$ so yeah

@jawohlbxb3534 5 месяцев назад

Whole video I was waiting to see how it compares to 7900XTX Its basically 4080 so I can just watch older video but it would be expected to be here as direct competition.

@Username_CC_ 5 месяцев назад

Fall

@or1on89 5 месяцев назад

@@jawohlbxb3534it would not be an apples to apples comparison. The 7900XTX is up to 18% better in raster vs the 4080 and the 4080 Super. AMD has released a lot of improvements, FSR3 exists and in the few games where is supported works almost as good as DLSS3 and no way in hell it’s just 2% better, otherwise here we are saying that internet is wrong and LMG is not. This review is, once again, bullshit. No sense in saying 20min of why Nvidia is releasing flawed products if you can’t bother showing the improvements of the others. Intel has made improvements, AMD has made improvements (even in RT, and not showing how AMD fares better with lumen is pure crap and not the full picture). I miss magazines, product coverage used to be slower but it was indeed thorough…

@rogerschutt3626 5 месяцев назад

Just a friendly correction: AFMF (AMD Fluid Motion Frames) is not the competitor to DLSS 3 Frame Generation. FSR 3 is. It is a very similar procedure. Both combine motion vectors (getting that from the game's engine) and optical flow compute (Nvidia has fixed function hardware for that - AMD does it via compute). Both have latency reduing procedures to compensate the added latency of compute and delaying a frame. Nvidia has reflex and FSR3 has a reflex equivalent baked in. Both require explicit implementation into the game by the developer. But both are so similar (as FSR2 and DLSS2 are very similar how they work) that modders had a easy time to inject FSR3 when DLSS3 Frame Generation is supported and likely vice versa. AFMF on the other hand is not reliant on implementation by the developer - it works transparent to the game. This procedure uses a similar optical flow procedure as in FSR3 but since it does not get motion vectors from the engine it is more limited in terms of stability. Also it does not have a lag reduction mechanism built in. Although both AFMF and FSR3 FG are somewhat similar those are not the same. DLSS 3 Frame Generation should be compared to FSR3. Also an unrelated question: why is there no Radeon 7900 XTX in the benchmarks? That is the competitor to the Geforce 4080 / 4080 Super...

@clark85 5 месяцев назад

are you serious they didnt fucking know that?

@greenking7390 5 месяцев назад

One thing to add, AMD does not have an equivalent to Reflex. Its the other way around. Reflex is an equivalent of Radeon Anti Lag. AMD was the first to add the anti lag features.

@leonro 5 месяцев назад

@@greenking7390I'm pretty sure that reflex is better than anti-lag, but AMD released anti-lag+ recently and it's about on par with reflex. The only issue was that they made it available at the driver level and it tripped anti-cheats, so a lot of players had problems and they took the feature out temporarily.

@greenking7390 5 месяцев назад

The reason for it being worse is the different approach to it. DLSS vs FSR is a good example. @@leonro

@ekay4495 5 месяцев назад

The whole cooling block scandal really a lot of peoples eyes, these guys are a content farm with little oversight for quality or sensibility or proffesionalism@@clark85

@ChristianGrams 5 месяцев назад

Please add the Intel Arc range to these comparrissions, even if it is only to show how far behind it is. Driver versions have been coming and usually always a good perfomance increase with them.

@shuppagail 5 месяцев назад

WHY is there no 7900XTX comparison, when it's the same or lightly lower price than that of the 4080 Super?

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

7900XTX is actually about 100 bucks cheaper than the 4080 SUPER and performs considerably better... Not including it in the review is poor journalism to be honest. It made AMD look unfairly worse, but still Nvidia managed to look bad. That says something about how overrated and overpriced team green's cards are. Nvidia COULD beat AMD if they want, but they'd rather trick customers into paying WAY more than the product is worse. Reviewers aren't really critical enough. Again, that's saying something as Nvidia is getting roasted for their SUPER release.

@spicywater1494 5 месяцев назад

@@gung-hochang9573 wrong and it's much wrost on vr

@TuanLe-gl4yt 5 месяцев назад

@@spicywater1494 so worse on VR then worse card. LOL how many pp play VR now aday :D

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

@@spicywater1494 It's not wrong. It's pretty simple, you take results from review and calculate it against the price. If you end up with more performance per dollar, that's the card you should buy. 7900 XTX provides more performance per dollar. Besides, saying it's worse because of VR is biased cherry picking. You have to look at the overall performance versus price. Also, when it comes to VR, that's something that can be improved upon in driver updates. Nvidia tends to improve less over time in driver updates because they're better optimized on launch. Meaning, over time, AMD tend to improve quite a lot compared to how it was in reviews.

@DragonKnightX12 5 месяцев назад

@@gung-hochang9573 If you look at overall performance they are very very close in most games. Especially once you add in ray tracing. As far as prices go it's $40 with the reference card at least. 3rd party.. yikes. Also depends what you already have. If you already invested in a nice G-sync monitor, might as well stick to Nivdia.

@Nethan10Troi 5 месяцев назад

missed the 7900XTX in the comparisons, sadly.

@SethanderWald 5 месяцев назад

Really appreciate the indicators on the graphs highlighting whatever card is currently being discussed. :) Props to the editors, as i imagine that was a bit tedious.

@ilikepie1974 5 месяцев назад

Appreciate the 3 in 1 video, and glad that the 7900XTX got a shout-out in the table later in the video, but if you ran the benchmarks to qualify it being a percentage faster, then you should have showed those benchmarks in the charts

@andrewwilliamson3513 5 месяцев назад

Then they'd have to talk about it being a direct competitor throughout the video, which would inconvenice the whole keeping the 4080s on top of the graphs thing

@Delta-it8ou 5 месяцев назад

They compared the 4080 super to the 7900 xtx on the gpu pricing, so where is the xtx on the graphs?

@Barrydick186 5 месяцев назад

That would upset the nvidia fanboys to no end.

@avonire 5 месяцев назад

Nvidia told this dude not to include it is my guess

@tankhistoryfordummies 3 месяца назад

7900 XTX is slightly more powerful in raw power but quite a bit worse in ray tracing. In raw power benchmarks, it beats out all Nvidia cards but the 4090.

@motopanda3741 5 месяцев назад

why do you not have a 7900xtx for comparison it retails for almost exactly the same price or cheaper than either 4080 option and should be significantly closer than the 7900xt

@audhen1 5 месяцев назад

because the 7900xt is even cheaper.

@mdoggie82 5 месяцев назад

I've wondered that about linus's videos. I get why you'd have the 7800's, but the 7900xtx seems like the one more people would own. Maybe not? Either way, it should be included.

@JohnnieButtersonline 5 месяцев назад

@@kilnerdynedoesn’t Linus and Luke both own that card? They trying to stay under the AMD money truck obviously!!!!

@johngaltline9933 5 месяцев назад

quick research shows the absolute cheapest 4080 (not super) sells for the same price as 7900xtx, with most 4080's being about $250 more for the same level of card. the 4080 supers look about $500 more expensive than a similar 7900xtx. Honestly not sure why the AMD card they chose to put up is one that competes with a 4070.

@audhen1 5 месяцев назад

@@mdoggie82 Why would you be interesting in a comparison with a product you already own? Would you switch your current hardware? Doubt it.

@dylannoack 5 месяцев назад

I notice a glaring hole in these graphs.... the 4080 super is MSRP at $999, the exact MSRP of the 7900 XTX yet the numbers for that card is nowhere to be seen on these charts. "Flagship" card or not, the XTX is the exact same price as the 4080 super and should be in these comparisons to show potential buyers all the options

@WhatWouldYouHaveYourArbiterDo 5 месяцев назад

In reality, the 7900 XTX is about 10% cheaper than the 4080 super.

@dylannoack 5 месяцев назад

@@WhatWouldYouHaveYourArbiterDo oh I know, I'm just using MSRP since that's the original price and they are using MSRP in the video

@Game_Crunch 5 месяцев назад

The 7900xtx vs 4080 comparison literally appears at 9:32

@estranhoobservador8709 5 месяцев назад

Tell me you didn't watched the video without telling me you didn't watched video

@dylannoack 5 месяцев назад

@@estranhoobservador8709 a single frame and a few short words doesn't show the average consumer. They state in that frame that the XTX now directly completes with the 4080 super but they chose NOT to include the XTX results in the actual results and graphs

@izik4035 5 месяцев назад

out of the 3 which is the best one in terms of value and performance? im building my pc soon and idk which one to get?

@hyperionphoenix6106 5 месяцев назад

How does the 7900 XTX compare, because thats really what Nvidia should have been tagretting with the 4080 SUPER rather than the 7900 XT

@henrik117 5 месяцев назад

amen!

@Healthy_Toki 5 месяцев назад

Just compare the 4080 to the 7900 xtx because the super is basically just a price drop on the 4080. Lots of reviews comparing them out there.

@Jimmy-uk8df 5 месяцев назад

@@kilnerdyne came here to say this. seems like their biggest competitor, especially if AMD drops the price further

@joee7452 5 месяцев назад

Not really a defense because I agree that it should have been on the slides, it probably boiled down to not a good video. I know people like to shout at the wind about numbers but the truth is that the xtx and 4080 were like within 5% of each other in the 95% percentile of games. The major knock on the 4080 was always the cost vs the XTX. Now that the Msrps are equal and the costs are so close together, the cards are again pretty much a full push (I mean the super per other reviewers only offered a 1 to 3% better performance then the 4080. So that isn't game changing, the price is the bigger change). If you don't need or expect to use any of the other features like dlss and crap, then the XTX is the better buy for a little cheaper. If you expect to use any of the features and crap then the 4080 super is the better buy for a little more money. Both cards are too expensive in my opinion so I am still not buying this gen, but it is what it is.

@philliprokkas195 5 месяцев назад

you sure are, Meg. Obviously xtx is the 80’s competitor, they just didn’t care to highlight how xtx is better in raster

@stevenl9461 5 месяцев назад

Why are you including the 7900xt instead of the 7900xtx, which is a significantly closer comparison to the 4080?

@PAINTnPONG 5 месяцев назад

He literally addressed why it isn’t included and plans to test that card further with its own videos. Watch before commenting.

@rockino2562 5 месяцев назад

Just watch the video kid

@WIP03 5 месяцев назад

@@PAINTnPONGthat was for AMD AFMF, not the xtx....

@CataclysmZA 5 месяцев назад

It wasn't included because Linus did not put his foot down and request its inclusion when he also asked where it was during a review of the video before publication.

@Ryan-om5yi 5 месяцев назад

@@PAINTnPONG Right, but you see how that makes this comparison incomplete, right? I dunno, I kind of want the full picture when I watch a review, but just some cherry picked metrics.

@iroony89 5 месяцев назад

Why not compare it to the XTX? Its main price point competitor

@marcelo.bassalo 5 месяцев назад

01:51 Where is the 7900XTX on that graph? For it's price it is the competitor and was excluded.

@ekay4495 5 месяцев назад

Seems intentional...

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

They compared the performance of the 4080 S to the 7900 XT... This is so bad...

@jamesstewart8663 5 месяцев назад

I find it odd the 7900 xtx was not added to these graphs. Maybe in the US you can't get that card below the cheapest 4080 Super, but here in Canada, where you guys are located (and similarly for most of the world) you can absolutely get a top of the line 7900 xtx for cheaper than the cheapest 4080 Super available...

@UKKNGaming 5 месяцев назад

Theirs no point the 7900XTX is faster and will always be faster it doesn't have to be in the charts for anyone to know this all the Nvidiots can't get it through their head Nvidia is selling you the same card for less that's it it's not faster 4080never came anywhere near a 7900XTX.

@SirBSpecial 5 месяцев назад

Germany too. The ceapest 7900XTX starts at 950€ while the 4080Super starts at 1100€.

@khirasier 5 месяцев назад

in australia a 7900xtx is anywhere between $300-$500 cheaper than a 4080 super

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

7900XTX is 100 bucks cheaper in the US. And performs better. It's beyond odd that it wasn't included, 4080 SUPER is presented without the competing card, 7900XT, which is a way better deal. LTT's reviews are still kinda meh.

@deathtoinfidelsdeusvult2184 5 месяцев назад

@@gung-hochang9573 where can you find a 7900xtx that costs 899$? pretty sure they cost 930$~ while the 4080 super costs 999$, and they perform exactly the same.

@Thespectaro 5 месяцев назад

Wheres 7900 xtx in the charts?

@UKKNGaming 5 месяцев назад

@@kilnerdyneabove the charts lmfao 🤣

@kakashi99908 5 месяцев назад

@@UKKNGaming cuz it went to the after life trying to run cyberpunk with RT

@icy1007 5 месяцев назад

Not worth talking about.

@icy1007 5 месяцев назад

@@UKKNGaming 4080S outperforms the 7900XTX in most games.

@the_undead 5 месяцев назад

It likely has something to do with the fact that they're purchasing a bunch of them and doing the same thing that they did to that CPU, trying to find a couple that are practically identical for testing purposes

@TheRealFoxFire 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the power graphs! Really helps!

@DikaiaSam 5 месяцев назад

Was hoping to see the 7900 XTX in these graphs

@estranhoobservador8709 5 месяцев назад

8:20

@YUGOT 5 месяцев назад

Are you buying one ?

@sultanofsick 5 месяцев назад

@@YUGOT yes

@flerov01 5 месяцев назад

Love the straight to the point intro

@aquifer9480 5 месяцев назад

Same, actually. Would prefer this over a lame 4 minute skit followed by a Raid shadow legend ad.

@demonrock9269 5 месяцев назад

honestly confused me.

@marzeqpog 5 месяцев назад

i dont. i got really disorientated and it was hard for me to focus

@Eli-zb2yj 5 месяцев назад

And you know who else I love our video ? Our sponsor

@westonjones6670 5 месяцев назад

Came to find this comment lol. Agreed.

@4RILDIGITAL 5 месяцев назад

It points out that the marketing hoopla around new graphics card releases often overshadows the actual performance differences, which aren't always as significant as they're made out to be. Agreed about NVIDIA having to better cater to gamers on a tighter budget.

@Reac2 5 месяцев назад

They have to cater to gamers better ON ALL BUDGETS. At every performance to price point except ray tracing Nvidia loses. The only thing they have going for them is, IF you want the best of the best, they offer it. But at a steep price increase over second place

@Volker_A4 5 месяцев назад

Expectations were already low going in.

@YouTubetail 5 месяцев назад

😂

@K31TH3R 5 месяцев назад

I suspect nVidia is just reading the room. They know AMD is now on the socket (AM5) and node sizing that will finally enable them to completely obsolete entry level discrete GPUs with their future APUs. nVidia very likely won't be able to please investors with a profit margin large enough to bother creating low end discrete GPUs that can match the performance per dollar, footprint, or power efficiency of AMD APUs, so the logical pathway forward is to abandon the low end/low midrange and go full Apple style boutique and cater only to the people working with AI, or to gamers with far more money than sense.

@rajagam5325 5 месяцев назад

were 7900xtx? from what i am aware the 7900xtx is the same price as the 4080 super. i would appreciate if it were to be included!

@jebes909090 4 месяца назад

is there a review of the 4080 vs the xtx? because if there is its literally the same thing anyways.

@bugsam 5 месяцев назад

XTX omission from that charts is bizzare...

@robnobert 5 месяцев назад

Don't worry LTT promised us they'll improve their GPU reviews they totalllllly are on it

@unknowsisoi7866 5 месяцев назад

@@robnobertbut it is still a promise that they are not keeping

@UT_Alx 5 месяцев назад

Want them to test every single card in history? Like damn, it's not that big of a deal.

@unknowsisoi7866 5 месяцев назад

@@UT_Alx they are testing the 4080 super, but not the direct competition, which is the 7900 xtx, but they benchmarked the 7700 xt, the 4060 ti competition, its just pure logic

@UT_Alx 5 месяцев назад

@@unknowsisoi7866 They explained their logic behind that in LMG clips.

@omegaPhix 5 месяцев назад

Why isn't the 7900XTX in the test? Isn't that the 4080 (super) competitor?

@estranhoobservador8709 5 месяцев назад

Watch the video and you will see

@sultanofsick 5 месяцев назад

yes. yes it is. Apparently according to LTT the exact price and closest performance match isn't "relevant" (wan show). And we all know how expensive it is to pay employees to do testing.

@happily7514 5 месяцев назад

Not including the 4080 super's direct competitor, the 7900 xtx is kinda weird

@FactsDataTruth 5 месяцев назад

AMD drivers are crap so not even worth making a comparison.

@UKKNGaming 5 месяцев назад

It's slower theirs no need lmfaooooooo

@bmryner90 5 месяцев назад

@@FactsDataTruth this just isnt true lol

@JacobsKrąnųg 5 месяцев назад

@@FactsDataTruth yeah true words bro

@FactsDataTruth 5 месяцев назад

@@bmryner90 This is very much true. AMD drivers still have the same crashing behavior that it has had for over 10 years now. That is sad.

@freenando75 5 месяцев назад

@linus, @all most of this videos is about gaming. what about video edit, in resolve for example? i have a 1060, it does do the job, slowly, but surely. so, in a low budget scene, is the 4060ti enough and a reason to upgrade ( resolve studio and some simple Ai neuronal stuff like transcribing text) ? some of us do prowork in video, but because is eco-social video we dont make money, so, low budget is king. opinions on my question? ( have in mind that for upgrading from gtx1060 to 4060ti i need to upgrade motherboard and cpu.. here goes the money :-) thanks for any input

@drithen 5 месяцев назад

What would you recommend for 3x 2k screens for sim racing?

@Le-Vel 5 месяцев назад

Weird to not show 7900XTX benchmarks considering it's priced similarly to the 4080 Super.

@axiom1650 5 месяцев назад

They were too busy listening to viewer feedback.

@andreimelo135 5 месяцев назад

LOL

@andreimelo135 5 месяцев назад

This channel became a joke

@nahteno 5 месяцев назад

Yeah the 7900xtx is cheap then both 4080 in OZ . Should of bought one on special for $1399 AU$ last week

@plehis123 5 месяцев назад

What a dumb take.

@chipped 5 месяцев назад

Don’t understand why they haven’t included the 7900 XTX

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

Nobody understands. I fear they don't understand it themselves.

@rajagam5325 5 месяцев назад

@@gung-hochang9573 didnt include cuz its sponsored by nvidia, only mentioned the 7900xtx to bad mouth afmf, and compare it to dlss FG. (should have compared FSR 3 FG with DLSS FG)

@pseudomonarchiadaemonum4566 5 месяцев назад

Money. Obviously. Nvidia doesn't want to compare the 4080 Super to the faster RX 7900 XTX.

@MikkoRantalainen 5 месяцев назад

My guess is that their contract (embargo) with Nvidia prevented including 7900 XTX because Nvidia told them that 7900 XTX is a competitor to 4090 only and shouldn't be included in this review.

@skrumpf6793 5 месяцев назад

Could you point me to where it says this is sponsored? Because it kinda looks like you made it the fuck up @@rajagam5325

@battlefieldbetter100 5 месяцев назад

Does the VRAM for the 4080 Super change between different companies? The MSI GeForce RTX 4080 Super Ventus 3X OC has 16g VRAM

@nicholasferrari4187 5 месяцев назад

Why wasn't the 7900XTX included in this testing? The 4080 Super is directly in it's price bracket.

@josuoh9888 4 месяца назад

I think they deemed it as not necessary in their Nvidia card comparison video as it does not offer too much more than the 7900 XT in these charts. It'd only really be one or two places higher for a card that only compares with the 4800 Super for price point, which I think the 7900 XT is sufficient enough for. That said, AMD really makes bad office work chips.

@ReasonableLogic 4 месяца назад

@@josuoh9888 AMD is more suited for gamers and not everyday work tasks and it's obvious lmao. Also, the XTX is considerably better than the 4080/Super, so I'm not sure what you're on about. He probably didn't add it because he knew it'd out perform the 4080/Super.

@josuoh9888 4 месяца назад

@@ReasonableLogicFrom what I've seen in Benchmarks, FPS tests, and DLSS/FSR comparisons, they seem pretty neck and neck, with some games working better on the XTX and some working better on the 4080 S. That said, I do agree that it would've been a fine addition to the scores, but I think either they didn't add it, considering that they haven't done a review for the XTX (probably don't have one in their lab), nor does it give any comparisons that the 7900 XT doesn't already prove.

@stephanhart9941 5 месяцев назад

Where is the 7900XTX?

@Hallootjest3d 5 месяцев назад

@@kilnerdyne It's probably because the 4080 SUPER is basically just a 4080, so if you want to compare those two that data already exists.

@TheDanil044 5 месяцев назад

@@Hallootjest3d But I heard they retest every time they Benchmark 😂

@tonTeufel 5 месяцев назад

@@Hallootjest3dif you're referring to the reviews from when those cards came out initially, those test results are completely outdated. Those cards could compare very differently today with all the driver updates since launch.

@WhatWouldYouHaveYourArbiterDo 5 месяцев назад

@@Hallootjest3d By that logic, why include any cards on the chart that weren't the supers and the 4080?

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

@@Hallootjest3d No ,this is the SUPER lineup review, the direct competitor is relevant regardless. People searching up SUPER reviews likely won't see a point in watching a review for the 4080 as it's the older card. So they are likely to be left with the wrong impression by this review and the failure to provide the proper recommendation for what to buy. Remember that those who need the information are those who don't have it. They likely won't have full overview over AMD's and Nvidia's lineup, let alone half of it. And they need reviews to be properly informed, because most people aren't looking to do in-depth analysis. That's the job of the reviewer, and the reviewer didn't do that job.

@FSAPOJake 5 месяцев назад

Just an FYI, AMD Fluid Motion Frames is AMD's driver-level frame gen. Their DLSS 3 competitor is FSR 3 which has to be implemented in the game itself.

@jonevansauthor 5 месяцев назад

I mean, it's a competitor in the same way that a Porsche is a competitor for a Tesla. (for anyone who doesn't get it, the Teslas are technologically superior to Porsches just like Nvidia's solution is dramatically superior to AMDs - both are still better than having a Volkswagen which is the 1080 in this analogy)

@lennartmook9182 5 месяцев назад

@@jonevansauthorand the best thing is that there are all cars that can get you from a to b. None of this matters

@_Juke_ 5 месяцев назад

@@jonevansauthoryou don't seem to know much about cars

@dqpowered 5 месяцев назад

@@jonevansauthor That comparison is as shit as this product they are reviewing. xD How can you even compare something so glorious as Porsche to burrito sized panel gap Tesla?

@mjn5016 5 месяцев назад

@@jonevansauthor Tesla hasn't made a single good car, how can you call them the "Nvidia of cars"? And technologically superior to Porsche? In what way?

@boicutt 5 месяцев назад

If I was to upgrade from a 2060 now, what would you recommend? Wait for next gen?

@Krarilotus 5 месяцев назад

These graphs look slick, so nice! Thanks for the extra effort in testing and preparing this!

@macse7en 5 месяцев назад

Any particular reason the 7900XTX was left off the benchmark comparisons throughout the entire video, despite acknowledging it was the direct competitor to the 4080 Super at 9:33? Even compared the 4080 Super to the 7900XT instead in some graphs? Seems like a major oversight.

@evers6214 5 месяцев назад

I could accept an “oversight” from a small independent RU-vidr. Not from these guys. Everything they do is deliberate and validated.

@macse7en 5 месяцев назад

@@evers6214 right. I found it amusing they said Nvidia “won” the F1 2022 graph… while the XTX was absent from the graph lol.

@edwxx20001 5 месяцев назад

@@macse7en ya, Nvidia wins, when the xtx is not included, but then again nvidia wins every chart if you include the 4090. not the the 4090 and the xtx should be compared.

@SettlingAbyss96 5 месяцев назад

Nvidia reviewer guide said not to include the 7900xtx because it is a competitor to the 4090 not the 4080S.

@macse7en 5 месяцев назад

@@SettlingAbyss96 That can’t be true because every other reviewer compared it to the XTX in their benchmarks. Why would LTT be the only one to leave it out?

@misaelperez1077 5 месяцев назад

How disappointing it’s that you guys did not include the 7900XTX.

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

Very.

@steincaron 5 месяцев назад

“We will do better” yeah right… Literally not including the direct competitor of the 4080 Super…

@PAINTnPONG 5 месяцев назад

He literally addressed why it isn’t included and plans to test that card further with its own videos. Watch before commenting.

@andrewwilliamson3513 5 месяцев назад

@@PAINTnPONGthey referenced the performance in red dead to the 7900xt that's a full tier below. That's actively avoiding direct comparison

@misaelperez1077 5 месяцев назад

@@PAINTnPONG there is no excuse. If they got time to test the 7700XT they have time to do it right with the right card competitor.

@Rektlaundry 5 месяцев назад

Should I get the 7800xt or what in the price range is the best for 1440p ?

@wut30486 5 месяцев назад

What do you do with all of these wonderful builds that you put together?

@tonan8888 5 месяцев назад

Why would you skip the 7900XTX, which is exactly the same price and closest competitor from AMD?

@PAINTnPONG 5 месяцев назад

He literally addressed why it isn’t included and plans to test that card further with its own videos. Watch before commenting.

@bravethomasyt 5 месяцев назад

@@PAINTnPONG Not comparing it for this video is lazy, at best. "We'll do better" didn't last very long for LTT.

@hoofhearted4 4 месяца назад

@@PAINTnPONG why would i watch the video when the tests dont include the card that i most wanted to see in comparison? I just went to Gamers Nexus instead.

@EXiLExJD 5 месяцев назад

Why no 7900 XTX benchmark? Edit: Could've replaced the 7700XT with the 7900XTX for a much better comparison. Pretty funny how channels that only have 5-10 employees did a better job than LTT with their 100+. This channel is a fucking joke these days.

@zee-fr5kw 5 месяцев назад

why no 4090?

@Crecross 5 месяцев назад

@@kilnerdyneMake a tech channel and test it

@Cainny 5 месяцев назад

4090 costs £1700-2000 while the 7900 XTX costs £900-1200. The 4090 should never be included in this but the 7900 XTX definitely shoulda been.@@zee-fr5kw

@egocd 5 месяцев назад

@@zee-fr5kw Because the 4090 is $1500+ Why would you compare it to a product that's $500 less? LEaving the XTX out is silly though, as that costs the same, if not less than the 4080S.

@leonro 5 месяцев назад

@@zee-fr5kw4090 is still at a scalper premium right now and in a much higher price bracket than the rest even at MSRP, so I get why its inclusion could be omitted. 7900 XTX has no reason to be missing, however.

@GlarialsTombMossGiant 5 месяцев назад

hey I think you might have missed including the 7900 XTX which is the most relevant competitor to the 4080 Super, thanks!

@dbagdi1998 5 месяцев назад

They also missed the 4090, I wanted to see how close the 4080s was to the 4090

@toxicturkeyy 5 месяцев назад

They literally mentioned it at 9:30 in. Embarrassing.

@dbagdi1998 5 месяцев назад

@@toxicturkeyy It was mentioned in a through away comment saying it’s 2% better. People wanted to see this on a performance chart not an overall summary. Not embarrassing at all

@ignfan4life 5 месяцев назад

So which AMD card is the competitor to the 4090?

@jebes909090 5 месяцев назад

@@ignfan4life none really. they didnt even bother. they just went for the 4080. to be fair though, theres not much that needs the power of the 4090.

@johnnyblaze8439 8 дней назад

Just got my first computer, it's a skytax Shiva 2 with the 4070 super when I run in 4K, the CPU temperature gets to 74C that's on war zone. Is that bad

@krilektahn8861 5 месяцев назад

Odd that you'd show a 7900XT, but not an XTX. You' ve got $1k cards in the chart. So why not the amd one?

@audhen1 5 месяцев назад

Because the 7900XT costs 400$ less than the 4080 Shitster

@AL5520 5 месяцев назад

It would've been odd if they did. This is a review on the new variants of the 4070 and 4080 so it should be compared to the equivalent models of AMD. The 7900XTX is the equivalent of the 4090. The 7900XT is on the same level of the 4080 super both on it's position in the series and the price.

@arghpee 5 месяцев назад

sponsored by nvidia

@johngaltline9933 5 месяцев назад

@@AL5520 AMD doesn't have a 4090 level card. the XTX ought to be in the lineup, being $300-$500 cheaper than a 4080 Super By price, the XT is a competitor to the 4070... The very cheapest 4080s (not super) I can find start at the same price as an XTX, but most are $200 or more higher. There's no reason not to put a less expensive competing card on the list.

@chrisalmere20 5 месяцев назад

@@AL5520 No not at all, the 7900xtx was never meant to compete with the 4090. it was designed (and marketed) to take on the 4080. and it does so quite well for a lot cheaper! I mean if you can release a 1000 dollar card that goes on par with a 2000 dollar one, nvidia will be ruined. BUT, looking at those graphs nows the 7900XT holds its own against the 4080 now aswell, It didnt do that half a year ago. fine wine indeed.

@chaikachan5820 5 месяцев назад

Interesting that there's no 7900XTX in these charts as it's the direct competitor for the 4080 Super.

@JeoDestra 5 месяцев назад

Nvidia Does not want it here

@ThePhoenixdive 5 месяцев назад

I hadn't watched a single LTT vid since the gamernexus debacle. Interesting to see how they haven't upped their game in the least even after that rug pull. Between botching the charts by not showing the direct competitor and claiming AFMF is the direct competitor to DLSS 3, everyone should be getting their tech reviews literally anywhere else.

@beefwantko7269 5 месяцев назад

but for some reason you're Still watching this video all the way through.. and probably his other videos.. and commenting on why people shouldn't be watching them.. classic troll behavior. not having AMD's 7900xtx as a comparison is a shame... but maybe that's because they want to solely focus on the failure of Nvidia's products stacked up against each other, and adding in another card would provide more room for error and thus more room for people to criticise Linus, also ive seen this kind of thing on Jays two cents recently and other channels people, we just live in an outrage culture, and your perpetuating it. @@ThePhoenixdive

@Lyxro 5 месяцев назад

He mentioned it around 3.50 seconds.

@wetdon591 5 месяцев назад

@@ThePhoenixdive yet you found your way here lmao

@sparky6757 4 месяца назад

So if my GTX 970's 4gb of vram isn't a _big_ issue for my use in 2024, could I reasonably expect the 12gb that the 4070 Super has to perform to my standards until 2034 or so? Basically, how much is 12gb of vram (relative to 2024 standards) compared to 4gb of vram (relative to 2014 standards)?

@sfortt5023 5 месяцев назад

Labs couldn't manage to test the 7900XTX? It's the 4080 Supers direct competiton.

@TexasTimelapse 5 месяцев назад

LABS fail! I thought LTT was supposed to do better?

@rajagam5325 5 месяцев назад

they only mentioned the 7900xtx when they wanted to badmouth FSR FG, seems like an nvidia sponsored review to me

@Lombo991 5 месяцев назад

This channel got so bad...

@SH4D0SKU11 4 месяца назад

Isnt that the one that uses twice as much power for the same games? Its a card for the people who dont pay a lot for their electricity :|

@ripvanwinkle3432 3 месяца назад

I've seen this on a few reviews already. They don't put the xtx because it does better. I use mine for productivity work and can't rely on amd for that. If I only gamed I would get the xtx.

@saidalamry125 5 месяцев назад

Having graphs with no 7900xtx to compare the 4080super to is a pretty weird choice if not stupid at this point given they are the same price and are direct competitors.

@johngaltline9933 5 месяцев назад

Maybe same price MSRP. in real life the 7900XTX is about $500 less expensive.

@saidalamry125 5 месяцев назад

@@kilnerdyne 4090 is maybe reasonable as it is more expensive than the 4080 super by a lot and this is a review of the (4080/4070ti/4070) super but the 7900xtx is literally the direct competitor

@animefreak5757 5 месяцев назад

@@johngaltline9933 depends where you live. Here i canada the 4080s and 7900xtx were within 10-20 bucks of eachother. I snagged a 4080s for 1369 canadian rupies, i think there was a listing from pcpartpicker that showed a 7900xtx for 1355$ or so? the xfx speedster card i had my eye on was 1369$ I wanted to go AMD, but given the benchmarks I found comparing the 7900xtx and 4080 all had the 7900xfx only slightly ahead in raster, and FAR behind in dlss ay tracing, I just couldn't justify it. Nvidia's software and features are just better\better supported. As a consumer, I go for what i think is the best value, and the tiny advantages off the AMD card just don't outweigh the downsides. If the xfx was 100-150 bucks cheaper, i would have absolutely gone for it.

@imellor711 4 месяца назад

Intresting results in a good video. My question is, is it worth upgrading to a RTX 4070 ti or super from a MSI RTX3070 std with 8Gb VRAM, for playing games on a Samsung UHD wide screen at 2k 3440 x1440, 75hz, with DvI cable output for MSFS2020. Is there enough performance increase for forking out £530?

@tehf00n 5 месяцев назад

Im still using my 1080ti and its still running great. I don't get RT or DLSS but I do get 60fps in pretty much all games at 1440p which is perfectly fine and barely a difference to 4K.

@Blob2099 5 месяцев назад

"I dont know what to say" ok linus, explain the 13 minute long video then

@j0pey 5 месяцев назад

LMAO

@AlaqmarMustafa 5 месяцев назад

lol

@suhit.m 5 месяцев назад

Lol😂😂

@Joanlow1440p 5 месяцев назад

😂😂😂

@johngunter4590 5 месяцев назад

They turned on his teleprompter

@Forfeit_The_Game 5 месяцев назад

8:25 is not the magic timestamp to say why the 7900 XTX was not included. This is only to discuss why FSR was not included in the tests to compare with Nvidia's DLSS and fram gen.

@shelveDEMO 5 месяцев назад

10:00 i cannot for the life of me make sense of this thermal chart. Why do the lines on the graph not correspond at all to the avg/max values?

@Ylinga 5 месяцев назад

Random but can you do a new and updated video of gaming servers what’s required/needed, what to expect, how to setup and build process? And startup set up process of setting up a game server to host? Is that too much to ask??

@joshuadelaughter7968 5 месяцев назад

Guess I'll buy the 7900 XTX once it gets a price drop.

@steel5897 5 месяцев назад

No you won't.

@Stricklinator 5 месяцев назад

I am happy with mine!

@dssd7685 5 месяцев назад

same i will buy it by end of the year

@dssd7685 5 месяцев назад

for now rx6600 satisfy me haha

@joshuadelaughter7968 5 месяцев назад

@@steel5897 Uh, okay.

@LegendaryKira 5 месяцев назад

Why is there no 7900XTX comparison that supposedly is competing against 4080 (and super)?

@Jj82op 5 месяцев назад

@@YesItsAimbot did you not listen to a single word in the video?

@killzone866 5 месяцев назад

the point of this is to compare to the non supers to the supers. The XTX OG comparison to the 4080 doesnt really change here with the Super variant.

@LegendaryKira 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the info! @@killzone866

@DeadPhoenix86DP 5 месяцев назад

Because the 4080 Super is not an upgrade. Its more of a replacement for the original.

@or1on89 5 месяцев назад

@@killzone866the XTX performs a lot better in many games with the new drivers though…

@Stpakos 5 месяцев назад

Hello,should i go for 7900xtx or 4080 super?

@shadamethyst1258 5 месяцев назад

I would love to see performance comparisons on OpenCL between GPUs - there is very little information on that online

@AJCrowley0153 5 месяцев назад

How come the XTX isn't on the graphs?

@philliprokkas195 5 месяцев назад

Because they don’t want people overlooking how minuscule the differences are between the 4080 and 4080 super. Nvidia being bastards is more the focus 😉

@damiansad8685 5 месяцев назад

All dope but why there isn't 7900xtx?

@Gregarproto 5 месяцев назад

I like that this video was pretty quick and to the point with minimal fluff and no reading the graph line by line force feeding me the results. Almost perfect for me personally. I know some people want to hear far more details and want longer videos with reviews like this, but I hate video for long data presentation. If it's too long and just data presentation of something "routine" like this GPU release has turned out to be, just give it to me in a written article so I can read it myself. 7900 XTX is missing from most of the benchmarks though. I get the 7900 XT has fallen in price and gotten to be a good deal, especially in comparison to the 4080 and 4080 Super. But the 7900 XTX is the price competitor. And Microcenter, my preferred retailer, only ever really has one SKU of 7900 XT at a time with limited stock, 7900 XTX is way easier to find.

@lex0266 5 месяцев назад

i have a rtx 2070 super and im thinking about getting an upgrade in my next pc.. what is my best option in the current market?

@RIP_Day 5 месяцев назад

I feal like the RX 7900 XTX is missing hear. It would have made a lot more sence for comparing 4080 / 4080Super Performence. Also I feal like AMDs best card is often missing from your charts, is there a reasen for that?

@monkhm 5 месяцев назад

I really like the little indicators showing which GPU is currently being referenced (the little flashing purple blobs) please more of this in the future!

@ivofernandes88 5 месяцев назад

Yeah it was super cool

@Willsalmon96 2 месяца назад

Looking to buy my first pc for gaming what should I get

@complimentaryrandomnessinc3137 5 месяцев назад

8:35 "we wanted to be as apples to apples as possible" Doesn't include XTX benchmarks

@Jack-bg5bb 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for keeping it simple and short, maybe a bit too short since 4080 super vs 7900 XTX with current drivers is a serious debate for people wanting to upgrade right now, like me.

@killzone866 5 месяцев назад

i would go with the XTX honestly regardless if they are same price (or cheaper)

@gerhardaryawardana72 5 месяцев назад

It's simple. Go with XTX if you don't care about RT. It's generally around 3-5% better for cheaper (source: LTT data in this video and Daniel Owen's benchmarking videos). If you want to play RT, then go 4080S since the XTX loses pretty hard on that front.

@huh0123 5 месяцев назад

What a terrible time to upgrade.

@emoluv54865 5 месяцев назад

Just dont Upgrade. I have been sitting on my 9900K and 2080ti since 2019 if the big bump of the 3000 series didnt sway me this wont either, until something massive actually Happens. Or this rig Gives up the Ghost haha. Wait for uplift on both ends , CPU and GPU..

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

The 7900 XTX is cheaper and is still better than the 4080 SUPER. Ray tracing is the only area where Nvidia has a real advantage, but the performance isn't good enough for it to matter much, really. And RT titles are the vast minority of games. Besides, AMD keep up okay in RT anyway, to the point where it's not really worth it paying more for team green and get worse rasterization performance, where most gaming is. So, get yourself a 7900XTX. The drivers are fine, it's just people repeating old stuff without actually having any experience with it themselves.

@victord343 5 месяцев назад

hello , if i have a 5000 x 1440 4k widescreen monitor with a i9-9900k which gpu would fit best/ have least bottleneck?

@mikul2646 5 месяцев назад

I'm curious why the 7900 XTX wasn't included in the comparisons? It's the same price as the RTX 4080 Super at MSRP and is nowadays actually a bit lower at retailers.

@everlastingsolace188 5 месяцев назад

Needs a 7900xtx comparison

@robnobert 5 месяцев назад

LTT cares about GPU review quality!? Didn't we just go over this?

@Barrydick186 5 месяцев назад

This video needs to be shelved and redone properly. I thought Gamers nexus slapped this out of LTT

@YUGOT 5 месяцев назад

Why don't you just Google it ? Find a picture of graphs with them in ? Like why watch a video about graphs?

@sultanofsick 5 месяцев назад

@@Barrydick186 well he gave it a good shot, but unfortunately there's just too many linus simps who will tell him he did nothing wrong (and he shadowbans the rest).

@theofficialemball 5 месяцев назад

thats literally just not even true. @@sultanofsick

@SAFFY7411 5 месяцев назад

Great delivery, review and all but the 7900XTX, the biggest competitor to the 4080S needs to be on the list. I would advise to redo it for the sake of being fair.

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, LTT's reviews are still kinda meh. I was hoping the Lab would improve on this a lot (more than this). Not even geometric mean vs price is included.

@kl0ness 5 месяцев назад

Watch the video.

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

@@kl0ness You watch the video. :) Nowhere is the lack of 7900 XTX justified or even addressed. In the video they talk about why they didn't include FSR + frame interpolation results (for all AMD cards, regardless of 7900 XTX). There is a very basic and limited summary page where they acknowledge that the 7900 XTX is the competitor to 4080 S. This does in no way account for 7900 XTX missing from all charts! For all we know the figures they quote are old numbers as other review outlets get higher percentage improvements from 7900 XTX vs 4080 S. If there's a 5 % improvement and 9 % price difference, then that translates into 13 % better performance per dollar for the 7900 XTX. That's how much the price makes a difference so many fail to realize this.

@abaruktumringworm2010 5 месяцев назад

i realy try to follow in this video but i guess im to old. I need a new grafic card but cant aford to put to mutsh money in to one. Any rekomandations whot grafic card thats worth the most. But dont cost to mutsh?

@cszulu2000 5 месяцев назад

Given the 5000 series is coming out soon, how would you build your ai and gaming pc today give that you will most likely want to upgrade when the 5000 comes out and I would pass down my card to a family member who currently has a 3080.

@rightwingsafetysquad9872 5 месяцев назад

It would have been better to have the 7900 XTX on the charts. I understand it's time consuming to include everything, so perhaps drop the 7700 XT?

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

Having the 7700 XT there is useful. They should simply have included the 7900 XTX.

@CoccoBello666 5 месяцев назад

Missed opportunity to say " we combined everything into a super-video, or as Nvidia would say: video SUPER". 0:50

@gorkskoal9315 5 месяцев назад

seems like: bad choice for fonts, color, and meh graphs. Either way: blurry.

@Kaenguruu 5 месяцев назад

@@gorkskoal9315you should check your settings then cause it's perfectly clear for me everywhere. (1440p)

@KamielDV2 5 месяцев назад

More like video TI Super

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

Problem is, though, that the video was not super at all. There are errors in the thermal graph (look at the 4070 Ti SUPER) and the lack of 7900XTX which is cheaper and better performing. Now the 4080 SUPER has no competitor presented in the review and most people come here for knowledge, not because they already know this stuff. Those people won't be sufficiently informed and LTT fails to do what a reviewer should do, putting similarly priced products against each other and awarding the best buys.

@IvanMaslov20 5 месяцев назад

informative video, but after watching I still struggle to understand if its reasonable to buy one of the new super cards... I have a 3060 and am looking to upgrade and i was looking at the 4070 super in particular, since it would bring a BIG boost in performance for the "lowest" price tag, but now idk if the 4070 ti super would be better... help

@fc196mega 5 месяцев назад

Idk why, but the pacing of the video felt sped up like the first 2 minutes of the video was missing.

@jaegren553 5 месяцев назад

Why did you guys leave out the 7900XTX? Are you afraid that the card will look good or something?

@Hathos9 5 месяцев назад

Did you watch the video? It was incredibly negative towards the 4XXX cards.

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

@@Hathos9 Doesn't matter. Nvidia actually came out a lot better than they should. The 4080 SUPER had no competitor in the charts. It would've looked quite differently with 7900XTX at the top of the charts, when it's a cheaper card. Now it just looks like AMD can't compete with the 4080 series. Those who lack knowledge (the ones actually looking to this video for information) are the ones who will not know this and are likely to not know about the different models in the lineup of AMD and Nvidia. That's what reviews are supposed to inform people about. Alternatives, better products at a better price.

@Hathos9 5 месяцев назад

@@gung-hochang9573 Only LTT can release a video saying that the Nvidia cards suck and people still accuse them of helping Nvidia.

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

@@Hathos9 Hey, please let's not delve into stereotypes and clichés. I never accused them of "helping Nvidia". My point was never about the reason 7900 XTX was omitted or whether LTT is "helping Nvidia". You don't know what I believe, so I'd appreciate if you'd ask instead of putting words in my mouth. I genuinely think that LTT is a neutral party, at least to a fair degree. I can only speculate, but my guess for the omission would be that it was related to poor prioritization, time-constraints and misjudgement rather than along the lines of what you "suggested" that I believe. Nonetheless, it doesn't matter in terms of my previous statements. The point still stands, no matter the reason for omission. And if your only takeaway from my comment is that you think I hate Nvidia and think LTT are helping them, you should read it again with the knowledge that your interpretation and assumption is incorrect. If you disagree with my statements (without putting assumptions to it), I'd be happy to hear your arguments to why you think I'm wrong. However, the anti-Nvidia narrative you claim I have is both unfair and inaccurate. I'd say the same if the brands were to be reversed. However, they are not. I am obligated to adhere to objective facts and data and unless you disagree that reviews should provide comparison of competing products in order to inform the user about the current product situation - then I don't see any compelling reason that the directly competing product should not be included.

@TechArc_ 5 месяцев назад

To be clear, FSR 3 and the driver Fluid Motion Frames are different implementations, as FSR 3 uses temporal information from the game to generate frames and requires game integration, while the driver Fluid Motion Frames adds frames after the fact outside of the game without this temporal information. These are two different things, so why show the AMD FSR 3 demo video? Also at 9:03, you showed the in-game FPS and the captured FPS by AMD's overlay. The difference in FPS would not be representative of what it actually is using AFMF, as fluid motion frames would be using part of the GPU for frame generation, reducing the'real FPS' that the in-game counter tracked. Also, why didn't you compare an RX 7900 XTX?

@domeberlin4480 5 месяцев назад

because its meh linus explained it

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

@@domeberlin4480 7900XTX is not meh, it's a great card compared to Nvidia's offering. Besides, it doesn't matter, it's the competitor to 4080 SUPER, it should be included regardless.

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

You bring up some very good points and I agree.

@domeberlin4480 5 месяцев назад

@@gung-hochang9573 no amd is not good i want to give amd a real chance this time but nothing as problems with this as card and now i am back on nvidia no such things

@mjn5016 5 месяцев назад

@@domeberlin4480 which card?

@joelgermain1988 5 месяцев назад

their 7800xt runs at 85°c? Mine, with an overclock, and fan at 40% runs at only 48°c at 100% usage. Can someone tell me how their could run that high?

@GlarialsTombMossGiant 5 месяцев назад

hi Linus big fan! where is the 7900 XTX in the graphs?

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

LTT really doesn't put up the best reviews. It's better than it was before, though.

@PAINTnPONG 5 месяцев назад

He literally addressed why it isn’t included and plans to test that card further with its own videos. Watch before commenting.

@andrewwilliamson3513 5 месяцев назад

@@PAINTnPONGbro quit lying to everyone 😂 His comment was about why they didn't use FMF, not the 7900XTX. Go listen to it again.

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

@@PAINTnPONG No, he absolutely did not... You didn't listen to what he said (or you didn't understand). He was talking about AMD's driver-level frame interpolation technology by itself and why it was not included on the charts (where only Nvidia's equivalent was listed). Not a single graphics card was mentioned to be put off for a later review. You are the one who should watch before commenting: 8:22 What they actually said was that they "couldn't get a consistent outputs such that we would be confident putting them on our graphs". They are referring to AMD's equivalent of DLSS + driver-level frame interpolation, it should be very obvious as they even show the option in the control panel and talk about AMD's release of the technology, never mentioning 7900XTX once while doing it! You just assume that it was somehow related to 7900 XTX because they showed a video clip of AMD's video of the release of FSR 3 and 7900 XTX is used by AMD in their benchmark. So you probably saw that while not actually paying attention to what was said. Besides, there are no good reason 7900 XTX shouldn't be included if other 7000 series AMD cards are. The point you seem to miss is that the results from 4080 S was presented without comparison results from the competing product. That should never happen in a review. Please be more mindful of the accuracy of your statements. Having that said, it's not the end of the world to make a mistake, just try to be more mindful of it next time. :)

@UrAveragePlayer0 5 месяцев назад

You guys obviously don’t listen to the WAN show

@TeMeRolEee 5 месяцев назад

7900XTX would have been nice to include

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

You mean the direct price for price competitor to 4080 SUPER? Even being cheaper. A review comparing alternatives and competitors is too much to ask. Say sorry.

@JaswantSolanki 5 месяцев назад

I like this format. Straight to the point without any filler content in between. Really prefer this for product reviews that don't need useless skits.

@eldukedrino 5 месяцев назад

it's mainly because graphic card launches are becoming boring. really not that much more to say.

@thewebcamboyz 5 месяцев назад

That makes one of us. to each, his own.

@PLKxR 5 месяцев назад

So....the way Nvidia works is they design the silicon and then manufacture it. The chips that are "B" tier and have flaws they'll sell at a series launch with the flawed cores disabled and the "A" tier chips they save to make Supers. Or you can buy a titanium card that has an "A" tier chip. They never actually changed the manufacturing process. Just saved the better silicon to be rereleased later. 5% more cores? They never actually changed nm or nodes and the gddr actually got cheaper so you're really just paying extra for what they could've sold a year ago. They'll also take "B" tier top class card silicon and put it in a mid grade card with the bad cores disabled and run a slightly higher power consumption to push a couple of MHz out of it and attach a better heat sink. Hence the "Redux" comment. Since you like straight to the point and I'm not legally bound with NDA and advertising.

@JaswantSolanki 5 месяцев назад

@@PLKxR buyers only care about getting a better product with significant performance increase. Mega corporations like NVIDIA will keep doing their thing to maximize profit, thats how they work. If they can circumvent policies that restrict shipping their AI specific chips to China, then what you mentioned isn't really a big deal for them.

@PLKxR 5 месяцев назад

@@JaswantSolankiI completely agree. It's literally all just giant corporative marketing schemes and loopholes

@whereto74 2 месяца назад

are the mode and median more relevant in this analysis?

@dr.chimpanz.1324 5 месяцев назад

real quick, in the comparison graphs an increase in power draw was in green signaling that it was an improvement even though generally more power usage is bad. small nitpick but could be better

@k-d-n 5 месяцев назад

Guess we have to go somewhere else, to see how the 4080 Super comperes to the RX 7900 XTX???

@Montyh7 5 месяцев назад

It's performs the same doesn't it? Don't we all know that, just with no DLSS and meh RT performance - therefore your choice will come down to which team you bat for (apparently that matters looking at the comments) and the price.

@bot_tay 5 месяцев назад

As others have mentioned, really missing the 7900xtx in these comparisons. For a non-sponsored video, just doesn't make sense not to compare apples to apples. I could see spinning a sponsored segment making the shiny new things top the charts in most cases, not for a true review however.

@olotocolo 5 месяцев назад

"not sponsored video" saying bs like "dlss3 introduces some input lag, but outside professional gamers..." some lag. It literally double the input lag, it how it works. It has to delay frame and wait for another frame to then interpolate between them and display them. It HAS TO delay one frame ahead making it show on screen exactly twice as later than it could. It's marginal input lag, when base fps is like 120. But then it doesnt make much sense to use it. If your fps is 30, you will get "displayed" 60fps with latency of 25 fps. yeah, really something only professional gamers can detect. Disaster that is 4080 super is also mentioned but swept under the rug. One in long tradition of ltt "we dont want to make them sad" materials

@PAINTnPONG 5 месяцев назад

He literally addressed why it isn’t included and plans to test that card further with its own videos. Watch before commenting.

@andrewwilliamson3513 5 месяцев назад

@@PAINTnPONGare you going to go through and make excuses for them on every comment? If they had the data to compare the averages at the chart near the end, they ran the tests, so it should have been on the graphs and written into the script as the direct competitor. The entire tone of the video would be different...the XTX is $50+ cheaper with similar raster performance, and better 4k raster. Any review of the 4080s without having it in the comparison is only serving to compare the new card to the old version of itself, that performs exactly the same. If this wasn't completely intentional, it was incompetent and negligent.

@CanIHasThisName 5 месяцев назад

It's a review, not a comparison video.

@bot_tay 5 месяцев назад

@@PAINTnPONG They only addressed that part as comparing DLSS vs FSR3, not the 7900xtx itself. The 7900xtx should have been included on the non DLSS comparisons, ie 1080p, 1440p, 4k, but not the DLSS vs RT as of its current state. But I guess to some the details do not matter..

@cassiomontijo327 5 месяцев назад

LINUS - IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE LINUX COMPIZ FUSION RUNING ON WINDOWS 11?

@Aeternita 5 месяцев назад

How did you guys seriously manage to not put the 7900 XTX on the charts? It's really feeling like nothing has changed lol

@micsunday14 5 месяцев назад

It's like the steam survey. It's not on that list either lol

@benjaminbeck5516 5 месяцев назад

And where is the 4090?

@envyhysteria 5 месяцев назад

Pushing 300 FPS somewhere else@@benjaminbeck5516

@moodlethenoodle 5 месяцев назад

@@benjaminbeck5516 4090 is too flagship for the purpose of this video, I presume

@benjaminbeck5516 5 месяцев назад

@@moodlethenoodle it still would have been interesting to see how those new cards perform compared to the flagship without having to look for the stats of the 4090

@Dulkh4n 5 месяцев назад

I wonder why the 7900xtx was left out T_T

@iBLgames 5 месяцев назад

What happened to AMD's RX 7900 XTX benchmarks?

@daggerissavirgin 5 месяцев назад

does anyone know if the 4070 super has LED lighting on the name?

@DomeskiX 5 месяцев назад

I don't normally comment but the exclusion of the 7900 XTX from the charts is really a problem with this review. It is THE direct competitor to the 4080 Super (you even say this in the video at 9:33.) You also say the 4080 Super has "slightly better raster" performance than the XTX, which contradicts your own graphic you're showing at that moment. I'm seeing some people comment "he addressed why the 7900 XTX wasn't included" which is wrong. He addressed why they excluded AMDs frame generation from the charts, which is a totally separate issue from the 7900 XTX. I love LTT and will keep watching, but the XTX needed to be on the charts in this video.

@nisargpatel8096 5 месяцев назад

Why no 7900xtx on the comparisons? Curious about 7900xtx vs 4080S with the new prices.

@gung-hochang9573 5 месяцев назад

Spoiler alert: 7900XTX is still cheaper and performs better. 7900XTX is the obvious buy if you like to spend money wisely. The funny part is that AMD had a price drop before the Nvidia SUPER launch and they reverted back to normal prices when SUPER lineup was launched. Then the AMD sale went up. xD If that's not telling, I don't know. Nvidia will always try to charge a lot more if they can get away with it. Unfortunately, they do get away with it because of how many uneducated people there are. Even this review doesn't present AMD's deserved win against the 4080 SUPER. Nvidia could compete on performance per dollar if they wanted, but they don't want that. They want marketing to inflate prices.

@fouadnajjar4912 5 месяцев назад

Y is there no Rex 7900xtx in your benchmarks

@UKKNGaming 5 месяцев назад

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN THE SAME LEAGUE. 4080 Super is dogshit what don't y'all understand the 4080 can't compete with it what made you think the GPU that's 3 percent faster than the 4080 is going to touch the 7900xtx