The 4070Ti Super has a major problem! And that problem is the 7900XT 

Plot twist jay is going to benchmark himself

@@esrtradajessehe’ll need some custom cooling or there is sure to be some throttling haha

What's happened to him🇮🇳🙏?

@@chappanagentpossibly cancer

@@stevieC11Hanworth😢

Or they wanted to make the 50 Series look more better. (Was my Guess a Year ago when those GPUs came out)

Well - at least we know now they will not sell their 5000 cards well if they try the same tactics.

marketing..games.... oh im sorry I mean practices :)

They wanted to make the Super Duper TiSuper

@@ChristianHeid7 Well just because it doesnt work anymore doesnt mean a RTX 5070 that is 40% better wont sell for 600 (or even 700) Dollars next Gen in about 3/4 Year.

I mean he still needs to pay those medical bills so...

4080S is not gonna be between lol. Gonna be barely better.

@@uskiuski7863 bruh thats what between means... "barely better than a 4080" means 4080s is between a 4080 and a 4090...

@@XxAtomic646xX yes 1% between is literally 'between' but thats genuinely not what people are expecting so... wow. You thought you were making a real strong point here didnt you.

@@uskiuski7863relax. I doubt they trynna defend the card or the brand lmao. Probably just being pedantic, in which case, yes being 1% better than the lower limit of a range qualifies as being between the lower and upper limits of the range haha

I'm kind of disappointed there wasn't at *LEAST* a $50 price cut on the 7800XT. If they cut the price of the 7800XT to $449 and the 7700XT for $399 they'd sell like hotcakes.

Waiting for Battlemage to come out 😂easily a 4080 for $450.

I'm still on the 2080 super 😂 still fine keeping it until its dead

One of my buddies was coming from a GTX 1070 and it was doing fine but he wanted to upgrade and another buddy was trying to upsell him on an RTX 3070 which was gonna cost around $450 then and it would have been hard for him to spend that much on a GPU with all the other upgrades as well so I suggested the 6700 XT and he hasnt looked back, its been flawless for him the whole time

I'll take your 4080 lol.

Everyone saying its overrated and that it sucks… No it just does not. The power demand is lower than 4080, it still has a big enough cache, plenty of cuda cores and a huge one for me 2 media encoders… where can you get all of that and not run 400w on a gpu?

@@YAXHY Simpe. RX 7900XT

And I'm hoping for a holodeck.

​@@GamesFromSpace😂. I'll settle for a decent pair of VR gloves.

I believe the last leak i saw.. and again it was a leak of a card still some time away.. so take that as u will, but it basically showed intels flagship gpu having same performance as an rtx 4070-4070 ti area.. now if the that is correct when it does come out, that will be good because im sure intel is gonna release it at a competitive price, but again if thats true, it means no one is tryna go after nvidia’s top gpu’s as of right now, which means nvidia still has free reign at the higher tier market (7900xt is competing against a “70” class card and the xtx is competing against the “80” class but will start loosing once the 4080 super releases)

Battlemage is at most being expected to hit a 4070 ti for 400ish dollars. Which I will totally pick up coming from a 5700xt

​@@slite3276 4080s is not the huge increase you think it is. Noone NEEDS to go after the 4090. Let them. Most of the market is stacked around 60 and 70 series anyways. If AMD can dominate price to performance at the 70-80 level and intel starts pushing into the 50-60 level nvidia will be forced to change their whole price sku because they wont go. 5060-300, 5070-500, 5080-800, 5090-1400 Though hobestly let them milk the whales. Thats fine with me.

Really nice card, got the exact same one myself. My desk setup has the 7900 xtx with a 1440p 240hz monitor, great with reaching higher FPS especially in Multiplayer games. My main has a RTX 4080 paired with a 4K 120hz TV, I Feel the 4080 does better at 4K especially with DLSS (No image quality loss) and its good to have Ray tracing for single player games.

I bought a 7800 and I'm completely happy with the performance

I’m doing a new build and going from a 3070 to a 7900xt and 7800x3d. It’s been 3 years since I did a new build. This will b-e my first time using AMD.

@@Nate-lp2cu You'll love it mate :D Just make sure to use a GPU bracket/support, they're heavy things!

Thats good you're happy with your card, I think that's the single most important part. But I haven't seen a single DLSS artifact with my 4070 ti super. If you were trying to play 4K with a 3070 I could see that. Also DLSS has gotten pretty damn good the last 6 months. Btw I love my C2!!! OLED screens really do take advantage of 4K gaming

I do still like DLSS make no mistake, and if Nvidia's cards weren't outragreously, greedily priced, I would have upgraded to a 40 series card. But at 4k 120, I have everything max on absolutely everything, and as a multiplayer gamer, pathtracing while cool is something im happy to wait for etc

What psu are you using? Any regrets on buying 7900?

Don’t be scared, turn on rt

I didn't even use RT with my old 3080 super pointless imo

@@bigbo1764 raytracing is basically pointless on every card besides a 4090.

​@@Alborahit's pointless on a 4090 too.

@@Alborah Even the 4090 is slow with path tracing.

that's true, and now we can actually have benchmarks that take AFMF into account, since DLSS 3 frame gen isn't available in every dx11/12 game.

Sure, if you can get Adrenalin to work correctly without bugging out.

Does AMD have something like NVIDIA shadow play and the NVIDIA game filters?

@@taekwoncrawfish9418 Adrenalin has been more stable than my nVidia drivers as of late. You all really need to stop trotting out a trope from 10 years ago that isn't applicable any more.

​@@taekwoncrawfish94187000 series dont suffer from driver issues that 5000 series did. Stop it

Hey, what model did you get, and what's the hot spot temp. Going to get one next week

@@IngeniousReaper i got the hellhound one. It was newegg. For 720 after a coupon discount plus avatar frontier of pandora promo code

I got the ASRock Phantom Gaming one and i love it.

@@Frashsibit what's the hotspot temp on it?

@@IngeniousReaper I have not checked yet, i will now.

Yeah! So you can make its already overheating even HOTTER! lol

Yup SAM and OC and you have a whole different ball game.

What, I have a 7900xt reference card, on a small case with cheap fans, never experienced a crash and Hotspot temps never pass from 82°C and avg temp in the 70's °C it's really an amazing card.

5600g (yes I know), and I play a lot of stuff, recently palworld, cp2077, rdr2, cod warzone, sea of thieves, re4 remake, rainbow six, battlefield 2042, some emulators like yuzu, psx2, cs go 2, pubg, forza horizon 5, dome eternal and again never a crash and always update the drivers without any fear of random stuff

@@anthonylong5870 You have no idea what you're talking about. The reference card doesn't even run that much hotter than the 40 series and AIB models are in the 60s.

Yes but now it seems like its a great deal.

Yes but now it seems like its a great deal.

Yes but now it seems like its a great deal.

I'd wait until the end of the year for the new cards if you can or get a 4070 Super. This card is very disappoint. BTW, the 12VHPWR issues haven't been solved, just mitigated a bit.

@@aapjeDoes 12V 2x6 has any safety issues

I'd either wait for the 4080 Super or get a 4070 Super. Both are amazing prices for their shear insane power.

@@alecshoemaker5908 you mean 6+2 pice? I am running 2x 6+2 so no, no safety issues {12vhpwr was an issue with 4090s and sometimes 4080}

@@alecshoemaker5908yes it does, it’s a really badly designed connector as it’s good for 51 Amps at the absolute max but runs at up to 50 Amps under load, a friends 4090 caught on fire recently and took almost his entire pc with it

Exactly why I went with Intel Arc A770, like you said, ray tracing is a feature, not a need, and like you, I generally just turn it off. I was waiting to upgrade from my GTX1060 for a while, but once covid happened, along with the crypto mining stuff, and the prices shot up, as well as cards making it to miners, but never to gamers, I decided that i'd give Intel a go, bit risky being the early adopter as it's my main gpu, but so far, no issues other than one or two minor things that got sorted quickly anyway. Nvidia are just way too greedy.

Dlss is worth it

I got the 4070 ti 12 gb for less than 750$. Got lucky towards end of year.

There's nothing lucky about a 4070 Ti for $750. You could have had a superior 7900XT for that

he's lucky that he wasn't scammed for more​. A fool and his money are easily parted. @@rustler08

@@rustler08Nothing superior about AMD. Until they catch up with ray tracing, and constant crashing from only their cards, that’s a no from me. That’s not even starting on software compatibility.

Been daily driving a 7900 XTX in my rig and a 7800 XT in my wife's for a bit now, longer on mine than hers, and honestly, I never understand comments like this as we have had ZERO issues with either card. My kids PC's on the other hand, I cant say the same thing. One 4070, and two 4060 Ti's ---- Each have had either heating issues or driver problems. It could just be a bad run of luck with those three, but to completely dismiss a brand, assuming all have the same issues (that you've probably only read about, not experienced personally), is just blind preaching. @@You_Do_Care

I’m waiting for the ti super duper pooper ultra nitro cards tbh 🤷‍♂️

the 7800 XT is about $550

@@Awoken69_ ya in uk its $500 to £550 convert that to us dollers. Still it would have been good to see where it falls in that list.

@@Awoken69_ You can readily get 7800 XTs for $500 direct from AMD with AIB models not much more.

I have the XFX card and it's been fantastic. I've had sapphire cards in the past that are great as well.

I have a 2080 (non super) but still trying to decide what I want. Power usage is actually important to me with my high energy prices so Nvidia is still better then AMD, but 7900xt just sits in such a good position right now it is very hard to ignore. At the least the 4070 TI Super didn't get worse or appear to have crazy downsides (ignoring the price of everything) and with the 16gb of ram is the only video card I would pick in their lineup (4080 is too much money for me). I won't go to 12gb as I want to keep it for 5 years or more.

@@Bag_Town Me too zero issues and it eats up games especially at 1440p great card!

@@Bag_TownOverall the best 7900XT in terms of cooling performance is the Asus TUF version, it is literally the second largest Air breathing GPU you buy, it dwarfs most 4090’s including the Strix one, it is much thicker and 5mm shorter

XT has always been the good version, at least with AMD, although they would occasionally throw out some even higher one (but usually just a slight overclock), like XTX or XT PE, but yeah, Nvidia used it for a weaker version, at least that one time. GS is a weird one, it used to mean "golden sample", but later it was used for weaker cards (e.g. 8800 GS).

Back in those days there're only 3 model numbers on the product stack each generation at the given time for both green and red team. And they've used entirely different GPU for each model number so they set suffixes to indicate that the given GPU model is a full version, normally cut down version, or severely cut down version of the same GPU. Normally there're only class 8 for high end, 6 for mid end, and whatever indicated the low end class that can either be 2 3 or 4 according to that generation; class 9 7 and 5 will only appear in mid-gen update to replace 8 6 and 2/3/4 in their place with slightly better specs; and all of these will also have suffix to indicated the more proper or lesser model on the same chip as well. It take to only as late as 2009, the generation of Radeon HD 4000 and Geforce 200 series, that both company seems to decide to move the "severely cut down" version of each class to new stack, from that point onward class 7 stand for mid-high end and 5 stand for mid-low end and 9 only reserved for ultra high end that is dual GPU; though soon AMD reshuffle it to make class 9 an high end single chip and then move the rest of the lineup one step down the stack. Since then things become more simpler as there're always at least 5 classes of products but only 2 products of the same class at most each generation, the one for each class and the other for in between the class that is a step better from a class lower so it's that class with Ti in case of Nvidia, confusion solved. On AMD side it's just have a pro chip and XT chip with XT have more core open for the same class of chip as non XT aka "pro" if not have the chip fully opened, last two digit in model number that are 50 and 70 in Radeon HD era and model without and with X in Radeon R200 and R300 era mean the same thing as non-XT and XT, the cutdown and the full product of the same class and the even more cutdown version of the chip will be put in lower class instead, so they have only 2 products in a class the same way as Nvidia. Then the problem will appear if they want to refresh the product lineup mid-generation, after they simplified product stack so 9 7 5 become their own classes, usually they just tossed number 5 after the product class number (which is the last digit of model number or if the product model end with 00 it will be 50 in the mid-gen refresh); however, in case of Nvidia they used Ti instead since Geforce 500 Series in order to make the mid-gen product fall in between each class that has been released before, and most of the time Ti isn't exised throughout the entire lineup so it never has a problem but then the time when they need to refresh the lineup mid gen come and they have to replace some product that already have Ti in its model or decide to replace it with new stack entirely and not slide in between the existing stack, so they have to come up with Super and Super model replaced the non-Super model in its place. I don't think all of this is confusing at all. And It's much better than the day when suffixes indicated the severely cut down version of a chip of a certain class still a thing.

Or when they did GTX, GTS, GT

@@ocudagledam The Golden Sample thing was only one brand though wasnt it? Gainward i think. But yeah, Ati using XT for good cards while nvidia had the 6800XT was weird

the difference between similar performing gpus crossing amd and nvidia is often per-game, i bought the 4080 only to find that the xtx performs better in almost all of the games i actually play, and i bought the 4080 because i thought it was just all around better in general than the xtx so make sure you research per-game before you buy. it wasnt a subtle difference either, i wouldve gained 10-20fps in every game i play if i went with the cheaper amd card instead

@@Dizzeke The way I see it, with Nvidia you basically pay for a fuller set of features. If you value ray tracing, frame generation and upscaling, Nvidia is the much better choice. If all you care about is rasterisation then AMD is better value. I am on the fence, but leaning slightly towards Nvidia for the extra features.

@@Dizzeke imo its less about the specific games but more about if you want Raytracing or not. If you dont care about RT go with AMD, more Power for less money, but if you want RT NV cards always perform better.

​@@Badtzismbetter drivers for NVIDIA

And it has more RAM too

Only get the Ti Super if it's a lot cheaper. As it is, it's beaten often by the 7900 XT, which is around $100 cheaper.

7900 xt is better price per dollar don't let the nVida fanboys tell you about the drivers

get the 7900xt. I own one. The thing has crashed in a game once in 7 months. Not a big enough problem to put another 100$ in NVIDIAs pocket.

​@@lemonshark7280Nah Nvidia spoiled me with dlss and raytracing something lacking hard on AMD

I also went with a 7900xtx. My 2nd Amd gpu in over 10 years of pcgaming has been great got it at an awesome price and outperforms the 4080 which costs ~250$ more almost everywhere

They aren't 100% price gouging, AMD has so many software/firmware ect. issues meanwhile nvida is far more reliable. I will never buy or recommend amd to a non-power/savvy user because of that.

​@@Casualfieldyou know, I also thought the same thing. Kept hearing people comment about driver problems. But I thought screw it, it can't be that bad. I'll save myself the $300 or $400 CAD and see how it goes. It's been many months and so far zero issues. Maybe back in the day AMD had issues, but they've been ironed out. This is coming from a Nvidia user for the last decade. The 4090 is just too far out of reach for me. Ridiculous price. The 7900 XTX is faster than the 4080 and several hundred cheaper. Oh and I should add, AMD's adrenaline software is much better than Nvidia's GeForce experience.

(OC)

You forgot the "EX Plus Dash".

Import costs plus VAT : comparing US prices and EU prices cannot be done directly.

I know that but how can the 4070 ti super replace the 4070 ti if its like 300€ more expensive.

Glad you enjoy your card but it's such a shame that you got ripped off essentially. You could have had a 7900 XTX for around $300 less and it beats the 4080 much of the time.

​​​@@ObakuZenCenterI mean it doesn't get beat out by that much plus if ray tracing is their thing then the 4080 is better in ray tracing compared to the xtx plus the efficiency of the 4080 makes it better then the xtx in the long run. Both cards have their pros and cons

@@ObakuZenCenter couldent go passed that dlss 3 and superior ray tracing personally 👍

@@AssassinIsAfk 💯 agree I couldent go passed the efficiency and feature set especially paired with a 7800x3d

​​@@ObakuZenCenterhe knows what he was getting, he doesn't need you to tell him if it was worth it or not

Not really, it's still $600 for a mid range GPU. The 7800 XT offers similar value, if not better.

Well if we're including AMD then yeah, those two are the best mid range value however you lose out on nvidia select software like dlss, fg etc obviously. I was strictly speaking amongst nvidia cards.@@Son37Lumiere

Eh if the 4070 super had more vram like the 7800xt that would have made it so much better!

Not really the same here but the 4080 is basically low stock everywhere here.

Double the price as well ☺🤭🤭

@@steviewonder0850 right almost near double but can't help. that's cheapest GPU wd 16gb vram and i was waiting since months for this refresh.. it will cost me 1000 bucks in india which is equal to 83k rupees. i bought my 3070 at 60k 3yrs back at 800 bucks when US dollar was 73 RS. now its at 83Rs

Netherlands same the 4070 ti super and 7900xtx about the same price point here

Might want to wait for 8800x3d at this point

me too aha

Nvidia has already elevated they have the better around cards on top of that, They have 2 of top cards which will be the 4080 super & 4090 that amd cannot beat with they too 2 cards.Even Nvidia lowers end cards beat all of amd cards feature wise & in Raytracing so it seems like to me Amd needs to elevate there the ones behind the 8 ball!😂😂

I would definitely wait a month after 4080 super and Intel Battlemage launches.

@@rdnowlin1206 Why? Pricedrop?

@@bartmerken1844 I would think so

@@rdnowlin1206 battlemage is like half a year away at least lol

@William._._. even better. Primeday will be around then.

Trust Australia to release the 4070 super $200 more then the 4070 😂😂 utter bull crap, you can get some 4070ti’s cheaper then a 4070 super