I Drive The Car BMW Were Too Scared To Sell: The 1M V8 

This is only a hope for some people. We all know the manufacturers give absolute 0 f*ck... 🤷‍♂

Yeah sadly true. They don't care what car people want anymore

Unfortunately manufacturers don’t care because a majority of the public don’t. With pcp most just want a reliable badge worthy car every 3-4 years. The enthusiast community demands a lot and then rarely buys the product when released or it’s vastly out of their price range. Very few will know the latest 1 series is front wheel drive for example, because they don’t care, feels the same and has the right badge

@@JayEmmOnCars The designs of the new bmw's are proof of that.

@@JayEmmOnCars That's very true. Although I find we have ourselves to blame in many instances. Only when a car enthusiast runs a company (Akio Toyoda for instance), do we get any form of tantalising inventory, and even then, only to a point. Dealer shenanigans serve as impenetrable barriers to mass market accessibility, that combined with a limited inventory of the good stuff ensures the average Joe is left stranded.

Sometimes you gotta pray that some underappreciated cars do not go up in value. It's nice to see that some underappreciated cars are getting some love but man. It hurts me when the prices of those cars go up in value LOL. I'm saving up for a C36 AMG and I'm hoping that it'll stay affordable when I'm able to afford it.

Yeah I do 2. Impulse bought an st220 start of lockdown after his video on it. Best £1900 I think I ever spent. Effectively Had 3 1/2 months full paid holiday and the empty roads of west Highlands to fire around. Helps fuel was £1 a litre at the time.

Even a run of the mill fiesta is 10k on Autotrader these days so i Don't bother. 🤣

I don't, I live in Italy so it's pointless to even think about it

I just checked 1M prices, anywhere from 70 to 90k AUD 😢😢😢

or Z4 with S85

@@GF-mf7mlI’ve seen that car in person- I’ve never wanted to drive a car so badly before or since 😂 Considering I’ve owned a xkr, z4m, alfa 156 GTAm 3.8 and so many rare cars. That car was that incredible

Z3M Coupe with S85 V10 💯

There’s a v10 e30 m3 manual doing the rounds in Sweden.

The S85 E30 M3 has been around since the E60 M5 was still on sale.

I remember the days when this car was developed, and there were polls on bimmerpost wich engine BMW should put in the 1M. I voted S54 😊

The n54 is a better engine end of story. V8 is cool but sooooo shit for reliability. An n54 will go 200k+ miles without being torn down to the block.

@@BumpTune8462 only thing good about the N54 is the internals. We won’t talk about injectors, turbos, water pumps, thermostats, VANOS solenoids, boost solenoids, chargepipe, boost leaks, or oil leaks

@@BumpTune8462 what are you on about? The s65 is the same story when it comes to reliability as most bmw engines. Maintain it well and it’ll treat you well.

@@brokeq50boi80 its more expensive to maintain by a lot. Rod bearings are not in the same ballpark as gaskets and water pumps.

No comparison.

​@@lesleyfernandez636 268bhp (with a 130i map) on skinny tyres is plenty. Still a lovely engine, arguably nicer than the turbo N54.

@@richardharrold9736hahahah let’s not get hasty, my n54 135i with a big single will burn those tires off in the first 4 gear and make this v8 look like a breadvan… n52 is a good daily driver, reliable with fuel mileage. S65 is for sound, clout, or lap after lap consistency on track. It is not wicked fast like tuned n54’s

@@fry.master and guess what. Nobody cares. If you do a burnout on public roads, you will lose your licence and your car - and rightly so. On twisty country roads like those in this video, a 130i is plenty quick, and the linear response of N/A is always preferable to the laggy, lumpy power delivery of turbocharging. The N54 is a horrid POS, no fun to drive and incredibly unreliable.

Glad to hear you enjoy your car the way you like it. Sounds like a fun ride, just like all the other cars these guys mentioned.

Interesting; do you know how the manual interacts with the V8? I'd be curious to know about that.

@Kyuzeth owner said it drives like a dream. Especially with the manual. Essentially the same 6 spd you got in the e90/92 m3 anyways

One of my friends has just finished the exact same build with a manual. It's such an epic car and works flawlessly

@@SpeedCafeGarageactually, the 6MT in the 1M is from a much newer N55 - its not the same box that went into the M3

I assumed that "illegal" in this case meant more like "frowned upon". Example: Preferring RHD over LHD in Germany is "illegal" and will get you in trouble.

Quite. Until recently there were tens of thousands of RHD UK forces cars registered and insured over in Germany.

@@jdo1014 I know, I worked a lot in Paderborn, so there were just a normal orrurence over there.

@@The.Jimmyboy People there would not choose a RHD over a LHD same as the UK would not normally choose a LHD over a RHD. But they are more uncommon to see over there, unless you lived in the areas where the forces were stationed. Some TÜV testers sometimes even thought that they were "illegal" when they saw my car, but upon further reading they would quickly change their mind :). So yes, it might be more frowned upon by some folks, but others who are into cars are fully aware that things like an old Nissan Skyline only exist as RHD, so would be open to compromise of course :).

Neither is it illegal, nor is it frowned upon. To the contrary, if you drive classic or more modern English RHD cars, most people admire them more than their "boring" LHD counterparts. It is exotic over here to have a RHD car, and to some extent impractical (overtaking...), but I would just not want an English car (like my Chimaera 500) to be anything but RHD. (Sry, in my first version of this I had LHD and RHD mixed up 😊)

Powerflex Black Series. 😁

Black series fixed my turbo e39

I suspect spring rates need looking at too. V8 is heavier as is the m diff setup at the rear.

@@TML34 only a stop gap... They still have the ability to flex, whereas solid mounts eradicate any movement...

@@nickholbrook3454 Do you think the heavier diff at the rear would balance the added weight from the V8 up front?

Just beautiful!

The vents on the M3 bonnet are for cooling, the engine takes its air from a scoop in the front grille.

@@BigUriel You sure about that? Cooling what exactly? One is blocked off by a rubber cap and the other is an inlet that allows air flow directly into/out of the enclosed air box…which is fed from not only the grilles but also largely from the opening in the lower left opening in the bumper (on the M3)

@@mullner88 I see what you mean the airbox has an extra inlet fed by that vent. Kind of a weird solution because it also has the front inlet same as all other E90s and a top intake will be sucking in air at low pressure.

@@mullner88 yes, on my E92 M3 I remember driving after rain and water flicking up from one side

Also horribly unreliable, with multiple serious common failure issues that can destroy the engine without notice.

not that uneconomical, easy to get 20mpg consistently. The sound is something else, has the V8 note but like you say, a technical, mechanical, metallic sound too

OG M2 is just awesome.

Do it.

Do it. Don’t let your dreams be dreams.

@@augustortiz just doooo ittttt *sells kidney*

nothing what a compressor wouldn't fix

I'm not a fan of this modern trend amongst crossplane V8s having a kind of dull, buzzy sound. The firing order of the S65 is mirrored from the usual BMW V8 order, so that doesn't help. It's not quite LS bad, but it surely has the potential to be better.

Yeah noticed that, too late...

You're complaining about plastics, I don't give a toss about that - I wouldn't buy a BMW for luxury but for the driving experience. Sure BMW has made great luxury cars - the E39 was amazing for it's time, and it still is today - same with the E38 and even the E65 - but I'm not in the market for a luxury car - lots of companies make those, but very few make good sports cars. From my point of view, they can stick as much plastic in their cars as they want, IF it will drive like a BMW. Problem is, post 2009-2010 cars do not. They're too soft, too assisted, too unresponsive. I don't like the electric steering racks - even the ones on the E90 facelift, I don't like the electrically assisted brake booster, I don't like the newer chassis - they're too soft and TOO BLOODY HEAVY. I feel newer BMWs feel like rear-wheel drive volkswagens. Seriously, I owned a passat W8 10 or so years ago - newer BMWs drive and feel just like that. Good power, comfortable, but soft, heavy, and a mere shadow of their former glory. Designed not for enthusiasts, but for the average joe to go to work in and show off. I'd love to buy a plasticky, basic BMW that is just a good chassis, good suspension and brakes, manual gearbox (no clutch no sale) and a good tunable engine for a reasonable price. The only options I care about are air conditioning and cruise control. I don't care about nav or entertainment system - just stick a 2din bay in the dash and I'll find something to install in there. Parking sensors and reverse cameras? I don't really care about those - and they're something I could fit myself if I really wanted to. Lane control? LCD screens everywhere? Touch controls? Lane assist? Pass - I don't want any of that. Those are luxury car options and I just want a good sports car. I hate how BMW has pushed luxury options onto the 3 series and compensated the price with cheap interiors. Those options should be reserved for the 7 or even 5 series. They ruined the 3 series - fine, we still had the 1 and 2 series. Now they ruined the 2 series as well by making it FWD. What's left? They could have the 1 series alone as a basic sports or at least sporty car with few options but no, they had to fatten and soften those up as well... But I understand why they did all this. People are not buying sports cars anymore. There's to many cars on the streets, city's are too crowded, and everyone is too busy to drive. End even if you can make the time there's noware left to drive to. Trucks Everyware, grandpa going 50kph on a 100kph road, rush hour, traffic jams and so on. The era of the sports car is gone.

For E81/87 yes they don't have much weight in the back. E82 feels completely different!

@@kaneCVR yeah to all that but it didn't add up with all the down time and staggering maintenance costs as far as we were concerned.

@@kaneCVR A lot of fair points there, especially about the sportiness. My concern with the plastics though, in my E87 1 series, yes there were plastics, but it was solid and well made. In the F20 I had later, I literally had a bag for keeping the bits that kept falling off or breaking off. Plus with the F20 the bloody engine management light would come on whenever I gave it the beans.

@@ZoomStranger maintenence cost is only high at the dealership. If you know a reputable indy shop, bmw parts are cheap and common compared to other manufacturers, at least in eastern europe. I do my own repairs, anything but paint, so stealership prices don't impact my ownership experience. There's plenty of documantation and guides especially for older BMW's. Last week I upgraded the ABS pump on my wife's grocery getter from the rare and failiure prone 2001 unit to a later reliable 2002 unit - hardware, wiring and reprograming, with the help of the e46fanatics community. Posted a how to guide on the forums as well.