I Finally DRIVE the 2024 Chevy Silverado EV: Here's How It Compares to the Ford F-150 Lightning! 

I mean...everyone has the option of just not buying a new car. And I realize that implies "buy used", which would then drive up used prices (again). What I'm suggesting is people buy nothing, drive their cars until they break down for good, then stop going to work. That'll send the right message to the ownership class.

This one 100k +

Not an EV truck fan in general and yes this truck is expensive as hell but it may actually pay for itself when used as a fleet. Fleet trucks drive a lot of miles annually and typically sit idling for extensive periods of time. An ICE F-150 might pull 12-14mpg and drive 40-50k miles per year. That is about $14k per year in fuel alone. That savings would quickly offset the $40k difference in initial price.

@@JDC129Most people don’t realize the benefit of getting AC and power without idling!

@@JDC129 Now imagine the company has PV installed. Even more cost reduction. And now add the savings in service and maintenance. 50K miles will be about 1-2K each year. After 2 years the additional cost is egalized. After 3 years you are about 10-15K lower. 150K miles is about the limit of a modern truck before it becomes too expensive to maintain, for a company without repair shop anyway.

just stupid....

$80k for a massive electric battery. EV technology is still ridiculously expensive.

But still looks nice😅😅😅

@@David-t3u6wbull that truck ugly as hell

​@@David-t3u6wso does a Lambo but most people can't afford them

Aluminum body helps a lot. Batteries are heavy this has 75% more battery almost

GM hummer battery on Munro is built HEAVY. And not in a good way.

The next lighting is a 2025 so yeaaa

This is the hidden cost that EV pundits keep ignoring. Tires will get eaten up like crazy. It will be even worse for the mythical cyber truck

First produced in 2021? The lightning was announced for sale in July of 2021 and only came out in May of 2022. 👍🏻 I agree on the weight bit. I knew when the prototypes had 8 lug wheels this was gonna be a heavy pig&61psi in the tires? 😀

Geez, I wonder when you all will be done with the low blows. We've all ordered a vehicle and made a mistake. Mine was back in '98, I could have had power windows, locks, remote entry and upgraded 80 watt stereo with CD and cassette for only $400 more I believe.

​@@302Mustang13Not until he sells it. This is too funny!

Soon enough he will go get a 3rd party aftermarket cruise control kit and install it on his Chevy Colorado truck! The truck Andrey has IS GREAT! He just needs to add the cruise control, some Heavy Duty bumpers front and back with tow hooks, bush bars and WARN winches on-the-front-and-back, LED fog lamps, a full-bed canopy with lockable side-lockers and winter-rated and insulated extending roof-top tent plus a swing-out rear cage that lets him carry a 40 lbs propane tank, a 20 gallon water tank, and two extra 20 gallon Jerry Cans of fuel! Add in a front-console mounted combined VHF/FMRS/GPRS/CB/Shortwave radio tranceiver system and some roof-top fractal antennas PLUS a high-lumens roof-mounted LED light bar, extra front/back/both sides InfraRed Nightvision cameras and 20 terabyte disk recorders, a 120 litre combined Fridge/Freezer, 3000 watt power Li-Ion generator with roll-up solar panels, portable microwave oven and espresso/coffee maker, portable toilet tent and portable hot water shower along with a fully portable Coleman Kitchen with hot-water sink and extra shelving and he is SET for serious boondocking/overlanding off-road vacations! V

@@andreiionescu205 18:38 Apparently the best time to learn the functionalities of a new 9000 lbs truck is while you are driving it near pedestrians.

@@induction7895 Touch screens are going to be the death of many unsuspecting people.

​@@happycamper6352meanwhile the pillars gotta be so thick nowadays for safety so you cant see and run more people over but you will be fine when you roll over

Don’t be fooled, this is the most expensive version of their WT. Ask Ford Lightning owners how much their $40k trucks were after they added the *extended range battery.* This Silverado boasts over 400+ miles of range. The Lightning Pro can barely reach 300 miles.

@@G-RatedYour not fooling anyone I paid 2k for my K1500 it’s 20 years old does gets 400 miles on one tank too. That truck isn’t get that range with the cold or a trailer behind it.

@@G-Rated GM had 2 years more to improve their tech VS the Lightning. Im not a truck guy but thats not a fair comparison.

@@RobbieFitzgerald wtf are you even talking about? 🤡

It’s hard to get excited about an $80,000 thousand dollar truck that doesn’t look much different from their gas trucks.

You can bet that GM will still be making ICEVs in 2035 and selling them in places like California.

Lol, Ultium is the biggest failure by GM since the bankruptcy.

@@user-tb7rn1il3q You can bet your a. or everything else. They will not. Government Motors maybe sells Wulings. But no fossil burners.

Ohio Ultium factory is basically still born.

You definitely will be able to charge it with standard outlet, it will just take a week to go 0-10%.

0-100%

The Pontiac Aztec, of course! 😁

@@alsnow3582 No one who saw a Pontiac Aztec will ever forget that.😂

It's not base. It's the higher optioned 4WT, as there will be a base 1WT for around $50,000.

Website says based is 40k

Time for new laws

Your city will assume it is less than that, unless they weigh all vehicles coming in.

The bed is on a unibody it’s not even a truck.

Being a WT doesn't make battery tech less expensive.

exactly.

* as long as you start at the top of a really huge hill and don't actually put anything in the truck and also never actually accelerate, just coast.

Several real live reviewers showed 485 miles of range in around town driving which is what a lot of fleets do. Even towing the 9k load it was getting over 1.2miles per kwh so 240-260 miles of range towing. I'd guess under 400 hwy though maybe as low as 350 if you are doing all 75-80mph. 🤔

@@4literv6 Even vehicles like the MG4 lose about 40% of their city range doing all highway driving, so 485 would drop to at least 290, but this is far less aerodynamic than an MG4. Add on towing and you're probably looking at stopping every 2 hours for nearly an hour of charging if going 75mph.

Battery technology for pick ups is still new, they're freaking heavy and delicate so they have to build literally bulletproof frames around them. Electric motors are also getting smaller and lighter. Batteries will also be much smaller and lighter and not as dangerous so i give them time.

NO THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE. I like _Silverado EV_ much better.

@@G-Rated meh. To each it’s own. I feel as though it’s an avalanche at heart

@@G-Rated or EV-lanche

I wonder if it would actually make that much more of a difference.

​@@LafemmebearMusicOn an EV aerodynamics is huge. That's why the Hummer EV is the least efficient EV the world has yet seen..

This truck is staying in the city/suburban areas. Nobody is going to be road tripping this truck but with a 450 mile range I could take this truck from Washington DC, where I work, to Philly, drive back & still have over 200 miles of range. You can also take this from DC to New York and get almost halfway back before having to charge. For what the work truck is designed for this has more than enough range because it's rarely going to go more than a couple of hundred miles in a day so depending on what the use case the space would be more important.

@@kenyattaclay7666the work trucks should have MORE range not less. Also your assumption that these are not leaving suburban areas is completely un founded and I have to assume is based on you living in Washington DC Philadelphia area. For example, Michigan and Ohio this thing could easily do 300+ miles as its average daily work commute. You then run the machines in tools on site with onboard power and suddenly you’re dead in an hour. Anyone that owns a business does not want the truck to be charging for hours daily potentially, so yes, aerodynamics are incredibly important and should be factored in. Especially if a useless “Frunk” is the reason this thing is as aerodynamic as possible

@@Swissk31300BO Once again, this truck isn't going on a cross country road trip & 99% of them are going to stay within the same 30-40 mile radius. There are several municipalities & companies that have already gotten work truck & cargo vans with far less range & they have all said that they don't even come close to running out of range in a day. Even if you take a most extreme example of where I live in the DMV/Baltimore area you could be a company based in Fredericksburg & have a job to do in Baltimore. You could leave at 100%, do your job & get back with about 250 miles of range left. The simple fact is it is COMPLETELY false that you need more range for a work truck.

wait until it catches on fire...look out...

@@lazynow1 Thats why i would wait for the 3rd generation of any product. Just wait till it goes up in flames twice. Smartphone, TV, car, plane - does not matter.

Being a work truck doesn't make batteries less expensive.

Rightfully so with the weight of the battery alone. However on the flip side, (no pun intended) with the weight of the battery it should be much more difficult to see it on its roof.

Great point!

Right?!! It’s becoming so hard to watch with Roman in the picture. He’s constantly talking over & interrupting everyone like he doesn’t trust them to give the proper details. Roman: we get it. You’re the boss. Quit micromanaging and let your crew do their jobs.

He’s the only reason I watch.

@@carminered ya same

Agreed. I wish Andre was doing this alone. @@jaadamoo

bUt iNFLAtION gUyS!

Only initially. All trims will be available to everyone next year.

@@bahamatodd Riiiiiggggghhhhhtttttttt!!! That is what they say, but functionally, I highly doubt it. Much like the Pro Lighting.

@@bahamatodd they also said this was going to start at 40K and that was a giant lie.

Might as well say hopefully the fuel refinery doesn’t go down, or the truck that is needed to ship your gasoline thousands of miles breaks down. Internal combustion is only viable due to massively inefficient infrastructure built up for it. And the grid is getting greener and greener every day, with better redundancy built in to reduce or eliminate down time. Hating on EVs now is like hating on cars in general 100 years ago. Certainly not everyone or every place is ready for them now, but will be before too long.

also burns a lot faster and hotter

The WT trim will be available to everyone next year

@@bahamatodd Nice. Thanks for the info!

Just bought a Silverado ZR2 because I got tired of waiting for a new Avalanche. My 2005 Avalanche has 230K on it with no problems. I will keep it until they no longer make pars for it. Most functional truck ever made!

Yea, it should be standard....but at least optional on all trimsm

The "unibody" is ugly in my opinion anyway... It doesn't even look like a truck, it looks like an avalanche, which was ugly as well. I'm not a Ford person, but that is one thing I am glad Ford did and am glad Ram is doing is sticking with the classic truck look.

Yeah not a fan of the unibody at all.

Ford is still body on frame, as is Rivian, and maybe Ram will do that, too. Advancements with body-on-frame construction and the nature of EV batteries complements the body-on-frame construction.

@@unconventionalideas5683rivians are body on frame only from a pedantic standpoint. u can't replace the bed on a rivian separate from the cab. rich rebuilds has multiple vids detailing how much a chore it is repairing rear-end damage on a rivian, and what a manufacturer approved repair would entail... and its an expensive and extensive process.

​@@Cal94so only the Ford then

Virtue signaling is all that matters

@DonnieDarko727 Exactly what it is. If they were serious, GM wouldn't be making 2 Hummer EVs a month 1.5 yrs after launch, and Ford wouldn't just be making 1500 Lightnings a month compared to 60,000 ICE versions. They've made their EVs structurally unprofitable, and now refuse to scale because they'll burn more money.

@@MADMAX7330 people are silly

Thats because Ford doesn't have its own battery factory yet. GM does.

How does one lose 25k on the batrery when it only 10k to build it? For those who don't know EV batteries cost companies about 75$ per kilowatt. Fords battery is 98 and 132 I believe

Definitely need lighter battery tech.

Its not "EVs" its Government Motors.

@@wolfgangpreier9160 Ford and Rivian aren’t exactly light either. I will agree not nearly as heavy as these GM offerings.

Real question here, how can they get more efficient motors without making a lot of evs first? This is 63-67mpge at 8,500#+ so 3x the efficiency of an equivelant gasser easily. 🤔 Batteries I agree on after watching the munro live teardown of the hummev pack. Based on rivian lucid and tesla pack weights&capacities? This pack isn't even as weight efficient as a 2017 model s p100d pack was. So they've got some learning to do imo. And gm found out pouch cells are not the answer. Prismatic or cylindrical are the way forward. Either of those would've produced a lighter more energy dense setup for sure. Still considering this was likely one of the 8 ultium platforms approved by barra&reuss back in late 2017? It's right about where anyone should expect gm to be.

Thats one of my major gripes with todays cars that have infotainment touchscreens. The screens always look tacked on like an afterthought. I still don't understand this design mentality when they could easily design a dash around them.

Nothing in the EV market is driven by customer demands, it is driven by government regulation and subsidy.

​@@josiahwyncott7519underrated comment

They look nice in person. Not sold on the price though 😮

@@dji1tommy29 ain't that the truth! I'll just keep my 2004 until it pukes its guts out on the highway.

If it ever comes out LOL

No, that's like saying put an electric fan on a sailboat to make it go. You don't understand physics.

​@@rudyyarbrough5122Don't be obtuse, he said "motor". It would give you more towing torque and regenerative braking. Ease off the spice, it is a fair idea, not sure how practical. You would have to have the need to tow very heavy quite a bit to be worth the extra cost. This is a work truck so ...

@@rudyyarbrough5122 you don't understand the comment. They are not suggesting perpetual motion! The post is about the need for trailer braking regardless of your tow vehicle. In other words, even with a current EV truck, when towing large loads, there would necessarily be a mechanical braking system on the trailer; basic physics.

Same… I happened to drive past Eagle Crest that day and I saw two of those Silverados pulling out of the parking lot as I drove by. I had no idea GM was doing a press event for them.

@@thenutsonyourchin who tows anything with an EV truck? That's like saying people towed with the El Camino.

@@nytridr you do realize that the intention to make a EV truck is to replace gas/diesel truck.

@@leeg5678 Holy shit, really? Lol

@@nytridr imagine towing your mother, how you gonna plug it in? She is taking all the back space, cord not long enough to back it in, so would it be logical to place the charging at the front? Or even better have one in the front and back for an additional 100k.

@@leeg5678 I'm guessing English is your second language? Nobody tows with an EV. It's a grocery getter like an El Camino.

Yes, Roman says he was a reporter for WIFR the CBS affiliate in Rockford.

Funny...

My Decked drawer system does not extend to the very last inch of the bed. So that won't likely be a problem.

Any one who slides stuff in the bed will likely rip those plastic caps off and destroy/lose them pretty damn quick

Realistically I doubt dealers will do that. Ford cracked down hard on that and GM is going to want to avoid repeating that mistake. Also, dealers are realizing that their prices need to be adjusted downwards because everyone who could afford expensive cars bought them.

I also think there will be a cheaper, shorter range version available as well.

Probably 1/2. Range in extreme conditions; get in the wilderness & let it brick it self

Nope. The Range goes to crap once you tow. Just like all EV trucks. Lighting will be dead in about 140 miles. If your lucky. So you want to tow a camper to California and drive for 8-10 hours? Maybe this one can go 200 while towing but that ain't going to cut it. You will still be looking for a charge station in 3 hours times LOL. That's going to be a PITA full stop. Hummer is total crap as well. And the fact that these trucks weigh 9000 lbs does not help. Sure they might have a ton of torque but that is negated with all the battery weight. Which also takes away from load capacity. EV trucks are a complete joke/gimmick. Complete total waste of money. And GM/Ford are loosing so much money making this crap. So much that they have to charge way too much for their ICE trucks to make up for it. Basically they have been running in circles with Li-on battery tech. In this application they have hit a wall. I'm hoping that Toyota's hydrogen works out. I know Toyota is very reluctant to get into EV and for good reason. They know its crap.

@@HiPlains1 yup, that’s why you need a bigger battery. There is no way my bladder is going to make it 3 hours without stopping. The Cybertruck is going to make things vary interesting. For one the battery is going to be way more efficient equally less weight. Charging is not a problem on main highways. The charge will be fast (15 -20 minutes).

​@@chrisroberts3963and the grid would support millions of them? Pigs can fly too

@@andrewdonohue1853 definitely not now but I bet in the future it will. We are only in the beginning stages of a massive shift.

@@chrisroberts3963 don't buy the cool aide, our country is being ran by deranged oligarchs. Electric will never, ever replace gas and diesel. Toyota has their finger on the pulse, hydrogen may one day replace current means. May, someday. 30-40 years maybe. EVs create more problems then they solve. Grid dependence, poor winter battery performance, battery disposal, rare earth mineral dependent, cost of initial purchase and future battery replacement. It's all a bunch of nonsense

While jacking up this heavy vehicle. Off road the jack will get pushed down in mud and dirt

Just do what every truck has done for decades and stick your lumber out the back of the truck

Cus the cyber truck is gonna fuffil all your missed needs lol😂😂😂 good luck

@@LafemmebearMusic we’ll have to wait and see. I encourage more manufacturers to make their best attempts and then make a fully informed decision, the best kind ! I applaud the good and point out the weaknesses in my opinion. This truck may be perfect for you, enjoy! Nothing personal.

EVs always seem expensive until you calculate the actual cost of ownership.

a very different audience than Rivian buyers...

Same here, trucks I've owned all had column shifters. 👍🏻 Oh and yes to regular old door handles that will basically always work as intended. 😀

It looks to me as though they could even remove the center console if so desired. I would appreciate getting rid of the "elbow knocker" between the seats.

I think right front corner or grill would make more sense for a work truck. Imagine trying to load the truck while charging, which is probably very likely when in the corporate yard. Access to the left rear of the truck would be blocked by the cord and the bed/tailgate would likely be partially blocked by the charger.

I have a feeling they are doing that because of switching to the Tesla connector next year, and all of their cords on their superchargers are short and you have to back in... I agree though, it will make it a challenge if you are towing. It would be nice if they make some stations that you can pull in next to, more like a parallel type parking for those few people needing to charge with a trailer connected. I'm sure there are chargers that are in parking lots that have plenty of room to implement this, maybe not all locations but I would think some of the ones in areas such as walmart parking lots would be able to set this up...

Its game over for the Cybertruck!Its a clowntruck anyway!

EVs suck give me a real truck

100% stuffing bigger and bigger batteries into EVs is not the best approach. Focus on efficiency and get range that way

@@andreiionescu205 uh no ice car can function without a battery made of lead acid and cobalt under it's hood now. And the average ice car has 21 electric motors spread throughout to operate everything. 👍🏻

Make V8s Great Again!

Lower trim levels are coming.

You wouldn't want to off-road it. Recovering it will be almost impossible. No tow hooks and the thread in tow hook is only to be used to load it on a flat bed, not recovering it from whatever it's stuck in.

It's 5'11" not 6.5' as stated in the video

"charge faster" argument for a smaller battery doesn't make sense to me. Isn't it like wishing a car had a smaller gas tank so that it refueled faster? Sure, it may hit "100%" faster, but you can always leave before you hit 100% in the larger battery, with the same range.

@@necrojoe my assumption is that with the weight savings there will be an improvement in energy efficiency (kWh per mile). So for a given charging power the lighter vehicle will gain more distance per unit time charging. And even though the smaller battery may not be able to accept as high peak charging power as the big battery, many charging locations will continue to be limited in output, which means the more efficient vehicle will have an even higher distance per charging time advantage. That advantage may diminish if / when ultra-fast chargers become the norm, but it hasn’t happened yet - Tesla still has a lot of V2 superchargers that are limited to 150kW shared between two stalls. Many EA chargers rated at 350kW are limited to less than 200kW or lower.

@@boostav too small.

If they really do go down in price by then like all the experts seem to claim. I wouldn't hold my breath.

I mean that isn't far off from a busy day at the gas pump

200k escalade iq ev first. 😀

GM will be in Bankruptcy first before the release of the Yukon

100% right, 2 doors is all we need

I'm guessing you've never been in a Tesla. You sit down , press brake and put it in gear. It's "on" when you sit down.

No chance. A non-EV LT crew cab starts at $55k with the 4 turbo