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I hate this side of ‘smart tech’. Just have a bloody play button - a physical button - that makes it play. So much innovation in product design for ‘tech’ crap nowadays is just e-waste speed running
I don't even get WHY that's needed. Like I could imagine "oh, it's so if you take them off they won't kill the battery" but like, I'd rather deal with my dumb ass having to charge a battery, then it deciding "No no no, I am not mounted to a head and therefore will not work". Hell, they probably have the BEST indicator you forgot to turn off your headphones in the form of two damn vacuums blowing air.
@@NEEDbacon The thing I hate the most about that is like, whenever shit like this is also chewing through your battery. idk what they're using here but if you're using more power to check if it's on my head than I'd waste by forgetting to turn them off then like. Bruh?
Kind of, except they did come out fast enough in the USA. Fast enough to get sued for false advertising for heavily implying that they were N95 equivalent in the marketing when they aren't even in the same ballpark. 😂
@@TheRealNeoFrancois Ah, you're right. I got the two mixed up since they both had similar products. Looks like Dyson was smart enough to not make claims they couldn't back up. Lol
@@sacredeightLOOK, FELLOW PLEBEIAN. IT IS SOMEONE OF HIGH CLASS. LET US JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR PRESENCE, BUT WITHOUT PARTAKING IN MEANINGFUL CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
As someone who lived in Beijing during the 1600aqi days, then moved to Chiang Mai just to chew on the 500aqi air, it's moderately funny to see people are paying a great deal of money just to breathe factory air.
I was there for a study abroad program in the summer of 2013. Not sure how that compared on the grand scale of things, but visibility was about 100 meters on a good day before things just turned into a gray wall of smoke. I got home in the middle of the worst wildfire season on record where I live, when there were no crap "you shall stay indoors" statements getting passed around because of air quality, and my first reaction was to stand around breathing heavily because the air was the cleanest I had experienced for months.
and you can wear whatever headphones you want, too. It's like... I'm gonna make a pair of sunglasses that are also headphones. Why? Why would anyone think that's a good idea? Due to bad eyesight, I pretty much ALWAYS wear glasses, so one would think I'd be an edge case who wouldn't mind having a headphone-eyeglasses combo, but no. I sometimes take my glasses off when listening to music. It's a rare case that one gadget, one _device_ can provide the functionality of two fundamentally different devices (telephone, photo camera) without ruining the experience of BOTH functions. And even though some smartphones have ridiculously good cameras, they can still not beat even a half-decent *dedicated* compact, to say nothing of a dslr or some shit.
Hahahaha they were the window lickers Anyone who has robbed a jb before knows the iPhone is the gold prize even though it's basically a brick once it's out the door
I heard that they don't really work as advertised because the mask part doesn't seal against your mouth and nose, it just constantly blows air into them, so it doesn't stop you from inhaling polution but it does dry out the inside of your mouth and nose, which makes them less effective at rejecting particles in the air
-Huh?- I was planning on carrying an old CPAP machine (without its humidifier-sloshing around to upset the pressure sensor) to deal with unavoidable 2nd hand smoke, but hadn't identified that problem. I guess I'll have to make a passive inline humidifier out of flocked media or something.
Not got a set to test, but from what I can tell they work using positive pressure, so they don't need to form a seal for the job they're doing. Basically because they're activity pushing air into the mask part it forms a high pressure area with the air pushing out of the mask. A particularly strong wind at the right angle could possibly overcome it, and they're only small filters which I doubt have an ABEKP3 rating like general use gas mask filters, so it wouldn't be rated for use against anything dangerous like a CBRN scenario, but should be fine for anything you'd be willing to use an N95 mask for.
@@MrEsphoenix Nah. These things are snake oil. Watch MKBHD's video on them. He walked around New York and could still smell everything. Then he brought a doctor on to tear them apart.
@@LockedPotato yeah. MKBHD was right when he said they're an intentional marketing flop for us to remember the brand Dyson. He explained it better though
Honestly I think the most damning thing is we couldn't hear them on the Freakish ears on a stick. WHY does my head pony's need to decide they're on a head or not to work. JUST MAKE THE NOISE I TELL YOU TO IDIOTS! Especially if I have to go through a damn app just to make them work too. Like Wade said, they're a paperweight.
A while back I was diagnosing my mom's Dyson hairdryer, and it turns out that the thing wasn't working because there was, like, three hairs wrapped around the inside of the filter cage and it thought it was overheating. This just solidified how Dyson designs all of their stuff to be ridiculously over-engineered crap with guts that think they're smarter than you and the same parts as their cheap counterparts.
@@PKai1Totally agree. Went over the same rug I had just vacuumed with our old vacuum and it pulled up a whole canister full of hair and dirt. Never realized how gross our house was before I got the Dyson.
@@PKai1cue the fanboys desperately trying to claim their anecdotal evidence changes the actual quality of their overpriced junk. Yeah, I’m sure there’s a few people who love their AliExpress phones too.
I find it dystopian to think that anyone would try and sell these expecting them to be an everyday item. These should only ever be expected to be a niche item meant for people in bad places, with health conditions or in dirty jobs, but the price kinda just ruins any thought of them being a professional or health item.
Bro Everytime I go outside I just smell gas and smoke and I live in oregon A GREEN AREA! Either we need to switch to EVs faster, ban smoking, ect or wear dumb thing like this later
There are entire countries with terrible air quality, kinda makes sense for those places (tho maybe it’s too expensive? Idk about the localised prices tho)
@@Arakus99 Its entirely useless for those countries as its far too expensive. We, who live in developed countries with currency far stronger than most of the ones with terrible air quality see this as an expensive item. So imagine how expensive it'd be for them.
Came to the comments say this. I could still hear the music in my head and he cuts away at exactly the same length of time he does in other videos. Brilliant!
From talking to a guy who works at Dyson, when I asked who these headphones were for, he said that they were aimed at the Asian market, where air quality is incredibly low due to the nature of their industry
I work at a JB Hi-Fi and we've had one of these on display for well over a year now; surprising noone, we're yet to sell a single set over in said store
tbh, i don't care which game it comes from, i only care that it's DEFINITELY not the second stage (unless austrialian Sonic 2 swaps Chemical Plant Zone with Oil Ocean Zone entirely)
Why would you say fifth-to-last? For anyone who doesn't know, the second stage might be the "fifth-to-last" stage, because they wouldn't know how many stages are in the game. Why not say "the seventh stage"?
Wade, important distinction: *SILICON,* like you said, is what are inside our electronics, as any sort of processor is made with it. It's a glass basically, and super rigid! *_SILICONE_* is the soft, rubbery stuff that a lot of things are made from or utilize, like that part on the breather!
James Dyson is a brilliant airflow engineer, has some amazing industrial designers on his team, his advertising is next-level - and is a total f-wit at everything else. These are stupid - just like his hand dryers. Sure - the air coming out of the outlets is clean, but that is not the problem. His devices use that clean, high velocity air to SPREAD germs and viruses in a MUCH wider area than if you used a mask or paper towel/ low velocity hand dryer. Oh - and don't get me started on the rechargeable batteries in his stick vacs - they die after about a year - my wife has gone through several of these highly expensive toys.
I'm surprised by the battery comment on the stick vacs. I've had my wireless vacuum cleaner for years and the battery is just fine. Then again, I live in a fairly small apartment so when I do use it to clean I don't need to run it long and hard.
Seconding amazement at the handheld vacuum batteries. Mine still works great on its originals from 10 years ago. But then I plug it in when it needs to, I’ve never used its “wall dock”. And it’s not like I’m using it every day, since it’s for small objects and hard to reach places.
Dyson hand dryers are great. You wash your hands clean, and after that the problem isn't germs, it's that they're wet. Here's a bit to ponder: if the germs in your hands (despite washing...) aren't spread by a slow dryer and the water instead is evaporated..... where did the germs go? :)
@@MadsterV Plenty of research that most people do not scrub their hands thoroughly enough, with soap for long enough and do not go between their fingers and around the nails. So your hands are both wet AND still covered in loads of bacteria like e.coli I never said that slow dryers don't spread water/germs - it is that the high velocity Dyson Air-Blades spread those droplets much further than the slow ones. And that My Dyson didn't listen to the experts that told him so. hence why paper towel was seen as the go-to during the pandemic as it should not spread water droplets at all and keeps them mostly confined to the bin afterwards. The action of air dryers is mostly to drive the water off your hands - then the small amount that remains is actually evaporated off. Small bit of trivia - we are both covered and saturated internally with bacteria - hopefully mostly good ones. They are a vital part of our bodily systems. The trick is to keep the good/vs bad in balance and not allow bacteria of both kinds to get where they shouldn't.
Welcome to the future, today! Featuring headphones that filter air pollutants that are so smart, they can refuse to play music! What a time to be alive.
Even though I don't own a pair, the fact that the headphones can just refuse to play makes me irrationally angry. You best believe if I were to pay 1,000 dollars for something it better work flawlessly.
In summary, if you're concerned about the purity of the air, you'd be better off purchasing a full room air purifier together with a pair of XM5 headphones.
i worked outside in wild fire season i can see how they would help because i put on a dusk mask on in wildfire season. but there's a point were nothing works and you have a blistering headache, plus not everyone in your crew will have this thing that cost a paycheck. so you'll probably have to shut down for health reasons anyways. and of course your managers that are 60+ and smoked 3 packs a day since high school doesn't know what everyone's complaining about.
According to Z reviews and some other people, the air filter part is trash and the headphones are some of the best bluetooth headphones on the market lol. Oh, the duality lmfao
There is no filtering it litterally just blows air into the "mask" because it doesn't seal over your face....And for over a grand I'd expect the sound to be good considering I can get professional studio headphones they use for making music.
I was at work during that Optus outage, and had sent a necessary text like 5 minutes prior. Had to basically guess that nothing was wrong from there. Worse still was the emergency services being lost. Bravo Optus, bravo.
One thing I genuinely appreciate about Dyson is that he's incredibly transparent with how he conducts engineering. He has photos of prototypes, how he got the idea, why he makes them, everything. As an engineer, it's a wonderful case study for any of his products, and if nothing else they are well engineered. Eccentric, but we'll engineered
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="148">2:28</a> "the second stage for sonic 2" *shows Oil Ocean Zone instead of Chemical Plant Zone, the Mania version no less*
I own an original Air Multiplier desk fan from Dyson. Although it looks super futuristic, it’s an actual nightmare to clean the impellers, especially for a 300$+ fan.
That's the point. The entire "why does BRAND sell weird and expensive thing that BRAND isn't known for" routine is meant to generate publicity through confusion, amusement, or controversy. Like the $600 Apple computer wheels that don't even have brakes and were mocked relentlessly: the primary goal is highly public reactions, the product itself is secondary. They played us like a damn fiddle.
as soon as i heard "I'll just have to substitute these for the only other Dyson product I have" i broke out into the stupidest smile because i knew what was gonna happen next. incredible.
I love how this man manages to pull of episode's like he hasn't used up all the idea's, Keep it up DankPod, your episode's through out these year's have been real amazing including the Lucky Nugget Dip.
I thought you were gonna pull out a Dyson vacuum when you were "comparing" the sound quality to the HD600 lol, so it would be this loud vacuum noise in the background 😂
if you want a respirator that doesn't swamp your sinuses and grow a moss beard on you, I'd really recommend the 3M ventilated welding helmets - they've got a small filter pack around your lower back, and pipe air into the helmet. There's no actual contact with your face (besides the headband which holds the helmet on), but no fumes reach you because of the positive pressure. You can also detach the tube and stick it down your pants or in your shirt for a short deodorize/dry. Actually a godsend for long days in the shop.
I had this on in the background, and the change from the HD600s to the Dyson fan was the weirdest thing i've ever experienced. I think my brain might be a bit too used to the headphone comparisons now.....
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="121">2:01</a> I sure love it when the iOS weather app tells me "get inside somewhere, it's stinky out here" right at the top... That's only the very worst places in Hamburg on bad days though. It could be much worse.
I live in Southeast Washington state and for about 2 weeks every year we average the worst quality in the world during wildfire season but most of the time its some of the best in the world.
I straight up saw an old man wearing these, with the air filter thing on his face and everything, in a shopping centre here in Melbourne the other week. I had to do a double take and my fiance did not quite understand my astounded reaction.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="501">8:21</a> I like how you made sure to time the Dyson fan’s duration exactly to the length of the music for the bit
Paint masks are for paint and dust, they are held to a standard of 94% filtration for particles .3 microns in size. Active air filtering gets finer particles in addition to that, which is better for treating air quality issues like smog. Dyson claims on their website that these headphones get 99.95% of particles as small as .1 microns. With that being said, these are still garb
I wasn't aware that bass was more difficult for ANC--during band practice my skullcrushers seem to do great with everything except high end. But I guess that makes sense eh cause the crushers are busy churning out that stinky bass 🫠
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="211">3:31</a> It's from a vacuum cleaner company, of course it sucks! *insert two drums and a cymbal fall off a cliff*
I fully expected the music to cut to an actual vacuum at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="507">8:27</a> and was a little disappointed when it didn't.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="563">9:23</a> sorry mate but that is incorrect... It's actually the other way around! The way noise canceling works is that the chip inside matches a negative sound wave to an incoming one to try and cancel it. The thing is, it has to do so very precisely which is really hard on high frequency soundwaves! Bass is canceled out really easily which you can test if you put on some bassy music and put in some good noise canceling ear/headphones!
This feels like a proof of concept more than a product. You can see that in the fact of how the vents snap together; one magnet under the vent hole, rather than two opposed magnets or a recessed mating with a ring of magnets, etc. You can have a strong connection here and still be flexible, they just chose not to do that and instead rush an aesthetically okay looking prototype to market. I almost want to see a second generation of these, but with how hard these flopped. Honestly I don't even know how you would make this idea work in the first place, fans are just loud as all hell and have a wide range in their noise spectrum, the style of fan is quite easily worse for this as well, and you can't just strap them onto the back of some cans and expect them to work. Headbands move too much and that would just complicate things, though this would be an interesting approach; maybe have one of those multi-part bands where the frame itself is rigid as all hell with a fabric band that straddles your dome. I think the ultimate solution would be offsetting the fan portion, you know how cooling/heating neckbands exist with their stupid little fans, something like that, but have them tie up into the headset and the mouthpiece; human movement makes this difficult, but following the neck before teeing off into the sides of the face would work best, we all know how bad neckband earbuds are even with extra slack in their wires. Stemming from the previous, could just have a back of the head strap that houses the fans, an ear-level one would cause issues with head movement, but offsetting it upwards to where head straps naturally exist would work, tying the ducting between low mouth, mid ear, and high fan/filter set would result in a _/‾ shape that is also more aerodynamic internally, which would reduce wind noise; the only problem here is that you'd have a torque on the ears where the two ends want to equalize with gravity, a typical mid-head band won't fix this, you'd need a forward-slanting headband that sits where the forehead crests into your dome, and there can't be anything opposing this due to skull-neck movement- alternatively, something that sits on your dome fully with a chinstrap, like the Trend AirShield, but instead of a full face capsule it'd just be a mouthpiece. The issue with actively ventilated PPE stuff is that it very quickly devolves into full helmets, the previous example of the AirShield is one of the better non-mask solutions, but it also fully seals around your head where a helmet chin strap would be, anything beyond this would be a visorless moto helmet with proper face sealing. And that's the major issue with these kinds of things, active ventilation or not, you need a proper seal around your blowholes for it to actually work, elsewise you get all of the nasty shit you're wanting to filter out re-entering the airstream. The idea of actively forcing air onto yourself in an open manner just does not work, and given enough of an open gap and enough air particulate it might actually exacerbate the issue due to how particulate moves. Any solution would need a seal, and that immediately kills the product for the wider consumer base, where only professionals who need PPE while also having the convenience of things like headphones would buy into this stuff; case in point is something like ISOtunes, which puts a can into typical hearing protection muffs. What ISOtunes is doing with music in muffs is what the future of an active ventilation PPE set of cans will have to be. Dyson targeted the wrong market with a bad product, and banked off of what the pandemic was causing to gain traction in the incorrect market. Funnily enough, the Trend AirShield does have a clip-on attachment for muffs, so this solution is essentially compatible with cans, you just have to put the work into converting a set to the clip system and making them fully wireless, unless you want a mess of wires running across the helmet alla the DeLorean time machine. This kind of solution is the way forward for what this product is trying to do, you will always have some amount of helmet to it, you need to offset the fan/filter pack, you need sealing on the face, the least would be open upper face with an open lower back of the head with some weird forward head strap or dome cap, any other lesser solution introduces major hinderances in various aspects. Though at this point just make a full ass helmet. The same kind of tech bro that would invest into this is also the kind that wears an XR headset out in public. Just give them the damn thing with the headset built in, digitize the visor, have enough field of view for people to be happy with VR, built that into the ventilation helmet. The non-techbro alternative would be to have a fully separate mouthpiece that actively moves air, but then you look like a freak that's into gas masks; this would also be the proper PPE solution that workers that need said PPE would use, by the way. There's just no market for any of this, you either have shameless people with more money than brains or you have the common public that shames those people, then you have a narrow gap of where someone wants PPE and needs enclosed comfort of their own music whereas most jobsites will just have a radio blaring whatever music is put on; there's just no place where this reasonably exists outside of two hyper niche areas on the opposing sides of the spectrum. And honestly, if one of the Asian countries that has mask wearers pre and post pandemic hasn't attempted to produce something like this, I have no hope for the concept. You know one of those countries would be the first to jump on the concept and do it well as a consumer product. Yet, we don't see this. It's a flawed idea. Again, you have two hyper niche use cases at completely opposite ends of the use spectrum that would even touch something like this, it makes no marketable sense, just use separate pieces of gear if you fit into either niche. And the further issue with this is that these only used carbon filters, not filters you'd realistically use anywhere. Haha no more smelly, but anything else will still rip you a new one. Concept is flawed, execution is flawed, there's no point to this product, there's no point to this product category, again just use separate pieces of gear if you really need the niche combinations of things.
If your ear cups are deep and wide enough, they sit on your skull rather than your ears. Smaller ones that press directly on the ear can be uncomfortable if they don't swivel.
@@OtakuUnitedStudiopeople wear headphones ON their ears? The ear cups are supposed to surround your ear and seat to your head. My head is so big I actually can't wear hats and still wear headphones right
@@no-replies On-ear vs over-ear. On-ears have small earpads which sit directly on your ears. Over-ears have big ones that eat up your ears and sit on your skull. Both exist.
can we have a video called "getting into the dyson zone" with you exploring a boatload of random freaky dyson products. would be cool to see as they are basically the apple of random home devices. i kinda misread the title as that and it seems like a fun thing to watch
I loved the video and the fact that you mentioned the off gases, the new carpets in the early 80’s would give me migraines, the only times I ever had migraines... lol
All the reports from the smart people that I have seen suggest that these are unlikely to help much at all when it comes to the effects of pollutants being in the air around you. You really cannot get away from having a sealed system if you want to take the outside air out of the equation. Which then leaves you with the moisture problem, as you pointed out. There are two basic solutions to that issue, either you can have some kind of desiccant which absorbs the moisture and will need to be replaced, this could theoretically be integrated into a mask. Or you can have some other system that takes that moisture and condenses it away from you, in that sort of system you are basically looking at a space suit type of deal, and even then you may need a desiccant depending on design. Personally I'm all for people wearing basically unpressurised spacesuits, if we build them right they can keep you cool *and* give you enough air for 8 hours+, just like actual suits for space do right now. The only issue is getting them to weigh...less than 310 lbs (and given that the suit itself is only 110 lbs that may be a problem). Still given we don't have the needs of literally space I'm sure you could come up with something practical that weighs in at 50lbs or less, and at that point it's tolerable
