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I still hope that one day, Wade will finally understand how windows drivers work, so that we can hear scarlet fire out of crappy early 2000's YEPP nuggets.
It irked me too. But I can understand it from the consumers perspective. The setup process isn't *that* straightforward. Even doing it correctly can result in failure back then (first-hand experience), it's how I got to be as good as I am today.
Yeah, one thing he’s missing from the “consumer’s perspective” is that people with old PCs were actually patient people who would spend copious amounts of time thoughtfully to get their product working. And now we have the luxury of Internet forums to check quickly which I bet he isn’t even doing.
@@PanoptesDreams "It irked me too. But I can understand it from the consumers perspective. The setup process isn't that straightforward. Even doing it correctly can result in failure back then (first-hand experience), it's how I got to be as good as I am today." But from the consumer's perspective Samsung are a Good Brand who make Quality Products that should Just Work. If they're upgrading from a SAOCHING that barely plays MP3s above 128KBPS to a "proper" Samsung and it was just a case of dragging tracks to their SAOCHING, they'd expect the same from their "proper" Samsung. They'd probably have the same expectation from their iPod, to not have to use iTunes, but iTunes Just Worked in ways that everyone else's proprietary client Just Didn't.
@@GeoNeilUK ..okay.. I am supporting his ineptitude. I do know these things. I just don't get your point to me. Someone else said what you're trying too better: "Why do they not just show up as generic storage devices to drag and drop onto" EDIT: It was literally you, LOL.
Yeah, old software never actually showed the nug. You just queued up what you wanted to transfer over and hit the button and hoped it work. Hell, even my Zune didn't show what was on there until like the third version of the software. And direct storage passthrough control was not a thing 20 years ago. The PC was only able to see the device, it was up to the software to communicate and send songs to the device, and then the device would write the song to the storage (which is why it took so damn long for songs to transfer)
I love their consistency. First it was "Yepp! Is the portable digital music player", then it went to "Yepp! Is the portable mp3 player" just for the last one go back to "Yepp! Is the portable mp3 player" xD Seriously, ipods are one thing and they were awesome for their times, but kids this days with iphones, media streaming and aalways-online are clueless on what we had to struggle if we hadn't have like rich parents who could buy us apple player or something with reputable brand (yes, we can shit on Sony or SE now, rightfully so, but they were doing good stuff back then) and instead we got from them or grandparents "mp3 player" or later mp4 for Christmas that were complete bootleg random madeups. Jezus, I remember having mp4 player I begged my parents to buy me one. 1 big (for their times) screen and 2 buttons on each side. In package there was some vague instruction in a form of microscopic booklet with font size like 1, minicd with obligatory bloatware (seriously, how is that possible no single piece of this software was good?), headphones that were never working properly, the connector was constantly disconnecting one earplug, even right after taking them out of the box and usb cable, miniusb but that's just standard for that times. And just like this yepp, uploading there anything was a fucking torture. This software was just fighting you with all its might- weird popups, errors, "media disconnected", hidden confirmation etc. And on top of that- let's say you somehow uploaded there your content, you charged built-in battery (yep, no AA/AAAs anymore, IT'S THE FUTURE NOW OLD MAN!)... this thing was draining power at random. You COULD have pleasant day and listen to music almost all day long OR it could die on you like half an hour after charging it to 100% and going out. I remember the buttons were in a form of "push down until the tiny dome makes contact to the pin" and you had to push it really hard for them to work. And guess what- the power button... died like not even full year after buying it, the only was to power it on by kind-of shot circuiting it to fife by connecting it to working PC like you wanted to upload something. It was complete garbage and just imagine- you're like 10-13 years this happens, you know why this happens and just go to dad or grandma and tell them that they bought piece or garbage and it's dead already. Sheeeesh....
The day dank realises that the samsung proprietary connectors were actually standard connectors in Korea will be a trip. LG, Samsung and others all used the same chargers lol
@@mromutt Can thank the EU for that, every phone with USB instead of every manufacturer with their own proprietary connector, some even more than one. And now they go for USB-C on everything.
I was going to bring that up, too, for why the buds worked but the speaker didn't on the Yepp ones. They only recognized certain banding on the jack, and the ones that are standard now, simply didn't work on them.
@@trayner As soon as we got to 2008 and he's using XP not connected to the internet I was like no way is any of this going to work. But that lil egg nugg was the only one that did!
We aren't mad at apple for *inventing* proprietary cables, it's just that everyone else stopped circa 2007 because they realized it was massively inconvenient. it's 2024 now and we have to drag Apple kicking and screaming into universal USB-C, and we could only do so through literal LEGISLATION lmao
12:20 Wade, you do remember that THE BRICK screams when you nudge the volume even a little right? Somethin's wrong with the Taledo m8, she's starting to cook.
My theory on the ambiguous packaging state of the *yepp!* is that the nugg was removed from the box and placed in a Dixons (or similar non UK Chain) display cabinet, where it lived undisturbed for between 6 and 36 months, before being reboxed when the store closed, and picked up for £5 by one of the now jobless team members. Edit: I'm referring to the first nugg, didn't realise there were many yepps. My source for the above is that i worked at Dixons from 1998 to 2005, and was one of the few who didn’t get an ipod. I instead got a Creative Zen which lasted for over a decade, after sitting in a display case for years until the branch i worked at closed, and the display nugs were sold off to us staff for less than the cost of a beer in London.
Bold of you to assume the staff paid for anything when the shop closed. When the shop I worked at (not Dixons) went into administration the staff just grabbed whatever they wanted when management wasn't looking
@@HMJ66 in our case the store was closing, not the whole company. Much of the inventory was sent to other locations, but the display items were sold for peanuts to the staff- only some of whom were given positions at other stores.
that silver yepp (yp-700) has an INTERNAL BATTERY THAT NEEDED TO CHARGE BEFORE YOU CAN USE IT. it was charging off the new batt you put in you just needed to wait. old tech couldn't run off dual power sources, the external batt charges the internal batt then it would work. patience bruv. that being said... if the internal rechargeable batt was dead dead,,, then yeah she dead.
The ultimate DANKPODS LORE video here and it has everything - the EEE PEE CEE, all the SMASNUG nugs, the sexy speaker slowly dying again, and a reminder of how crap eBay can be.
About half of the "problems" with these nuggets is Wade's inability to get a proper PC-setup and/or to use XP-era software. Dude was actually surprised when he did what softwarwe asked for and it worked (when he selected driver for the first player). Because of that, these nugget-dips always sound like Apple butt-licking marathon, even though iPods had all the same problems on Windows in early days.
I think it's the disconnect between assuming that the CD will be automatically installing the drivers for the device it's sold with. But the CD is just installing the generic software suite with a folder of drivers for all relevant devices, which are not installed until that very screen asks for where they are located. Also if he connected to the internet it probably would have done that automatically.
@@AfferbeckBeats It really doesn't help that many of the installers don't just install the fitting driver. The whole "manually search for the driver" part is basically the worst installation design for a mainstream consumer device. Better installers will ask to plug in the device at some point during the installation, so that the installer can identify them and install the drivers. Or they just throw all drivers on the disc and install the needed one once the device is plugged in. Think about how graphics cards drivers do it. You install the driver package, it checks which card you have, and installs the driver needed. And hardware identifiers aren't new.
My personal highlight list - 1: Smasnug. 2: RealPlayer. 3: DivX. 4: The woman in a white shirt and glasses judging you from the package that was mandatory on _all_ 2000's-era packaging and advertisements. 5: Adorable Yepp mini-CD (I call it the Yip Disc).
We arent mad at Apple for proprietary at the beginning of the Iproducts, we are mad that they kept doing it when everyone else standardized. Then they take away your home button and sold it back to you, then they took your wires and sold them back to you.
Fuckin exactly. I don't mind proprietary for a portable game console, don't mind the barrel jack on laptops. What I do mind is proprietary on a damn phone, so annoying
"This is the worst episode I've ever done." No, this is one of your best episodes ever. Fucking incredible, I'm dying from laughter at how bad these nugs are
I think the biggest issue by far was that it required proprietary shit, and even then, it didn't even work properly. Double whammy in the shit MP3 player category there.
I've never used the Yepp software, but I know that a lot of software for peripherals at the time required you to "search" for the device _inside_ the software after the computer recognizes that its plugged in. Stuff didn't just pop up automatically. So maybe try playing around with the menus in Yepp and see if there's a "find device" or "import" or something like that.
I'd be willing to bet very large amounts of money that most people could get the software working in no time just by uninstalling the old crap and spending a solid 20 seconds reading the manual
And many early players didn't just show up as drive and needed to be synced with proprietary software. One reason those thumbdrive style players became popular is that you could just plug them in and drag your music on the drive. You could even do it on your buddies computer for totally legit sharing ;)
Wade, you may not believe me, but after enough of your Aussie ramblings, I actually went and had some Tim Tams shipped to me so I could actually try them; I was saving them for a special occasion. 30+ minutes of nuggs? THIS IS THAT SPECIAL OCCASION!
Next time brew some chai tea (or other hot beverage. I suppose coffee and hot chocolate are traditional) and use the tim tams as a straw. (Google Tim Tam Slams if you think I'm trolling.)
I'm guessing the sound isn't working because they've got a non-standard layout on the 3.5mm jack. Started this trend and Apple has kept it going to this day, but Samsung joined in for a bit too. Since it's early MP3 it's probably mono sound to save space and then playing that one channel of sound right into the mic channel. And that's why the Samsung dirty buds work, cause they've got the matching non-standard 3.5mm plug to the non-standard 3.5mm jack.
I feel like im stuck in a time loop of Wade loading up the EEEPEECEE with Yepp CDs, trying to play MP3s in auxiliary mode, and the same earbuds every single time.
OH MY GOSH I OWN THAT ORBULAR LOOKIN NUGG AT THE END It's actually just a really strange shuffle, the dorkus at the end of the headphone jack clips into a small dent on top of the mp3 player so it doesn't fall off when you wear it around your neck Besides the lack of screen, and a light that only blinked to indicate if it was playing normally or shuffle (it had NO battery indicator, so it would die on me randomly) it was actually surprisingly nice? 2 gigs was a decent amount of memory back then and the bloatware was provided, but I just never used it lol. that little dingus 3.5 to USB converter was just permanently in my pencase making it so my mp3 was also just a flashdrive for school All in all I rate it
Me when I don't know that Windows XP doesn't come with preloaded USB drivers and doesn't install them automatically when you plug stuff in, then all my nuggets don't work but it's Windows XP's fault, not the nuggs' fault...
I recently gave CDs another try. I have to say, I forgot how much I liked the spontaneity of walking into a used shop and just kind of grabbing whatever stood out. How easy it was to try something new was one of the few things I missed after getting my first iPod Nano in, like, middle school.
@@PEPSIMaxMusicYes and no... Wade obviously has an Apple bias from his experience and preference, but Apple really did put a lot of work into making the experience 'just work' compared to a lot of MP3 players of the time. It's not like the phones of today where they work basically the same and it's just preference. I was an Apple hater at the time and still had to admit that the iPod/iTunes experience was better. (I do not believe that that is still the case.)
IIRC Japanese companies like Yamaha and Mitsubishi have their fingers in all the pots because during the occupation only a few companies were allowed to own any of the heavy manufacturing equipment. so they bought up everything from laythes to looms.
What happened is that Japan used to be run by ~dozen multinational conglomerate monopolies called zaibatsu (analogous to the Korean chaebol like Samsung, guess where they got the idea from). The majority of zaibatsu were trustbusted during the occupation. A few like Mitsubishi, Toyota, Kawasaki, Nissan, and Mitsui were allowed to stay.
Fun fact: the soundtrack on Conker's Bad Fur Day, which is in your "2001!!" graphical masterpiece was all MP3 files. Rare managed to make the N64, which came out in 1995, play MP3s...WHILE ALSO PLAYING THE ACTUAL GAME ITSELF
30:05 Mate, that was my MP3 for so freaking long, mine was white though. It carried me through college, it didn't needed software, worked just like an USB, drag and play. I carried my investigation papers and notes in that nugg, I loved it. The "extendy bit" was the best part. Headphones were cromulent too, same with the microphone... I even recorded whole interviews with it. Only reason I gave up on it was the dawn of Android phones, that was it.
Oh man I had that blue YEPP in 2002, felt like a goddamn astronaut, listening to them INTERNET MUSIC on the go, so cool. It was built like a brick, indestructible nugget, too bad it was only 32MB, too early into the MP3 players market
I lived out of that last nugg you tested. Loaded it up a 100 (!) free MP3s on its internal storage (!!) with Skype notification sounds in the background which I'd listen to while waiting for the bus after school. It's shuffle mode was deterministic and seedless, as in whenever you started it up it would always play the songs in the same "random" order, even if you put more tracks in. Because of that I have a particular order of five or so songs in my head where if I hear any one of them, my brain is expecting the next one that would come on after it on that thing. The headphones on that would go on to live in my ears for many players after that, becvause they were "better" than the other ones I would come across. I'm old enough to realise that ALL of them were crummy but quality is perspective to what you were exposed to at the time. The LCD screen was bright but it would wrap song titles frequently; it also had only ASCII format support so if your song's metadata had any special characters in it then the whole screen would display gibberish. It was great. I actually found it a few years ago when doing some cleaning and it STILL had some battery power left. What a nugg.
Pitney Bowes recently did me dirty. The laptop dock I bought had been taken out thrown onto the ground and then put back in the box. It still works and was cheap so I started laughing
GE makes random things that don’t connect with other things way cooler than Yamaha or Samsung. Need a new refrigerator? GE has you covered, need a commercial jet engine? GE has it, you need a 4,500 horsepower locomotive? GE has it, you need a 30mm rotary auto cannon for your A-10 attack jet? GE has it.
Need a skyscraper? Samsung has you covered. Need a power plant? Samsung has you covered. Need a car? Samsung had you covered. And what is still true for GE was true for Siemens 20 years ago but nowadays it's all different companies.
Good video but I would recommend reading up on how USB, PnP, and driver installation works on Windows XP. Several of your devices were only like a step or two away from working before you gave up. Also, you should get a regular PC and set up virtual machines (VM) for different versions of Windows instead of using that crappy Eee PC, so that way if you have troubles getting something to work in XP, you can just switch to a Vista or Win 7 virtual machine
As much as I enjoy Wade's videos, it was frustrating to see him almost get to the point of getting the device installed and giving up. The early generation of ipods weren't much better, the 1st gen wouldn't even work with Windows. ITunes for Windows was a pile of shit that crashed constantly. Also Apple are the king of the proprietary connector. Honestly if it was anyone but Apple their 20 pin connector would of died well before their switch to Lightning. They may finally have USB C on their phones, but that's because they were forced to.
@@HZLTS Honestly, I think he probably does know how it works but playing it up for laughs, which is fine. The content he churns out isn't for journalistic accuracy, it is information with silly humour. Also, Wade's experiences are similar to some peoples. For those that do remember the time of the MP3 shovelware, how many of us helped others install the crappy software that people were forced to use. I suspect with the Yapp's, they most likely wouldn't of needed the software at all once the drivers had been installed properly. The driver was most likely a USB interface chip that Windows XP didn't know about.
No it's actually better he does it with real hardware that's somewhat period appropriate (yes I know that an early 2000s desktop/laptop and late 2000s netbook are very different), it'd be better if he used some laptop with a dvd drive instead of relying on an external dvd drive. Point is not to get the stuff working but to see whether it'd be frustrating or not to get working.
@@HZLTSis it the end users job to know how to “install USB devices”? Or is it the job of the system and the software applications? How many Windows users even know what the device manager is? By the mid-2000s, everything should’ve been as plug and play as possible. The software should’ve installed the correct driver for the device so the wizard knew exactly where to find the driver files. Maybe using a newer OS would’ve helped (?) but blaming the user instead of the bad design on behalf of Samsung is only rewarding bad software. It was a bad software experience. Only once or twice did the “Your hardware is ready to use” pop up come up, meaning of all of his attempts, only a few of them were able to get drivers installed, and even then only one of them communicated to the software.
Let me guess, it was a video you got off some random corner of the internet in some weird format? You also don’t need iTunes to play videos on an iPad.
For videos on iPad, if you really want to get them on there, all you have to do is convert them. iTunes has a built in conversion tool that’s really easy to use. I hope that helps anyone else who might run into that problem.
This video is so weirdly nostalgic. When I was in school, I had the YP-U2R and the YP-U7 as my first and second mp3-player. I actually still use them as flash drives to this day, even though they haven't been able to play music in years.
the funny thing is it was actually working almost instantly once the drivers were installed from the disk, if you looked at the bottom left corner of the yepp software, it was doing things, and had connected to the YEPP!, it's just as per usual, wade is very impatient
@@sayocean86 I like wade and watching his videos but that can get very frustrating to watch lol XD makes me want to pull out my hair, well whats left of it haha
For the first time ever, watching Wade "Dankmus" Nixon torture himself over a bunch of Yepp MP3 players made me uncomfortable, especially for a whole 30 minutes.
That Samsung Pebble brings back memories! I love that nugget so much. I had one in green and wearing it on my neck during work runs in 2012-2013 was fun. Didn't use the software CD installer to transfer music if I remembered correctly. The headphones broke, which eventually made me stop using it and went back to using my old BlackBerry as my music player.
I remember having that Digital Audio Player at the end (in Shrek Green of course!) and it was super easy to use if you ignored the bloatware and just loaded it up through Windows Media Player
18:28 - Wade, I know you love using 'Pukcells', but, those older devices were power hungry, so, to get ANY life out of a AAA, you'd NEED a Duracell as they have a higher power output compared to 'Regular' batteries... 😏 😎🇬🇧
I had one of those lil usb stick samsungs featured at the end and i LOVED that thing. My idiot ADHD riddled brain played with the switch blade USB action for days. At one point it went through the wash after sitting in my school trousers for too long and the screen refused to work on it. STILL WORKED THOUGH and i learnt how to use it without a screen and kept it going for a solid year before it finally died on me. I miss mp3s
