I Got A Philosophy Degree And Only Make $20,000 

LOL You made me break my 3 month streak of not commenting on RU-vid!

@@johannesrutherford422 Awww yeah!!!! 👍😉

justinredman haha good one.

justinredman I literally laughed out loud. Thanks for that..

Ha ha

Investing Hustler ain’t that the truth. 😬

"Don't follow your passion. Follow opportunity, and bring your passion with you." - Mike Rowe

Investing Hustler this degree let’s him pay his bills but only in his dreams

your advice only works if you're a meaning loser who's only purpose in life is to make the most money. sure, if you have no substance just do whatever pays best, but for a person with any charakter its just awful to lessen your purpose to doing just that, especially in times where there are so many possibilities for realizing your individualism and changing the world in your own way

@@trebmaster Opportunity is key, I´ve met many in university that dont take said opportunities when they were presented out of lazyness and those guys look aimless.

True, but a philosopher feeds your mind. LOL

@@christams8863 Lame joke

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@ Truth BOT THANK YOU for making me laugh :)

Yeah most of us learned that the hard way. :/

Absolutely true!!!! And even worse when you have parents who have never gone to college & know nothing about Financial Aid & Loans!!!!

My son is having this current issue. 18 years old, graduating senior and doesn’t know what he wants to major in or do at this moment. I’m suggesting to him to go to community college, save money, and not incur a lot or any debt at all.

@@ajbluebird7741 My parents pushed me to go into community college too at the time. Hated every minute I was there. If I could do it over, I'd rather go into a trade for a few years THEN go to college after maturing and having a better idea of what jobs/degrees are out there.

@@ajbluebird7741 If he doesn't know what he wants to do, don't put him in any college at all. Let him work and live and figure out what he wants to do. After a year or two he should be able to make a decision.

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Philosophy is actually pretty good degree for law majors, it's not too hard so you can keep your GPA high, and is good prep for the LSAT. And in law your GPA can determine what you make long term bc the better the school the better the pay.

K W.S yeah, but that’s contingent that you get into a good law school

@@blakeb4583 well with all the lack of stem classes you should have alot of time to study for the LSAT. And considering that the LSAT and ur GPA is the 2 major things they looks at I think any person who really applies themselves can get into a good lawschool. Ofc that won't be the case if you just strive to be mediocre

@@kaiw.s6053 I would actually say your major plays a bigger role than your GPA because a lot of law schools will weigh a lower GPA STEM major more than a higher GPA philosophy major, and generally the easier degree you have the higher you have to get on the LSAT. But your LSAT score is the most important thing.

@@blakeb4583 Law schools don't put that much stock into which major you pick as long as you did great in it. Sure a 3.6 in chemical engineering will be looked at slightly different than a 3.6 in English but at the end of the day that's not what they really care about. I would definitely agree that the Lsat is above all though

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Getting a “finance” degree won’t do well in finance either way.

@@tyjohn4779 elaborate please. I'm compsci major right now. Have been interested in finance for a little bit.

​@@bwilliams6755 You can take a chartered financial analyst (CFA) exam without a degree in finance, where as for accounting designations, there are pre-requisite courses. I hope that kinda explains the situation.

B Williams the best most lucrative jobs in finance away from executive level are in sales and tech fields lol a finance degree is pretty worthless , major in IT or Comp Sci if u can’t sell

Brilliant

Not 60 grand in debt for a 20k salary that's for sure

At least he utilized his degree

Very profound

A taco is a sandwich and all sandwiches are tacos.

t This is why the kid shouldn’t be picking and the parent should be picking 5 majors and they can pick from the list

Parents should help them pick it

Yep I encourage people to get through their gen eds while they really figure out and discover the other possibilities.

@@BigRed2 i would only agree with that if the parent was the one paying 100% of the tuition, and parents dont always understand the future of our economy, and might overlook CS degrees

@Kenfinex cs degree will be better, AI is going to take over engineering jobs, heck they already have robots that can take over trade jobs

Musa I of Mali and picked philosophy.

My grand parents have given me 50 cents (at most) till date

And he wasted it

Dumb grandparents. Grandpa should have told him no way he's paying for a philosophy degree

Ur grandparents maybe didnt have money. His had money. Mine paid for my engineering degree as well as 15k into my MBA and company i work for paid the rest They have money and they are awesome

Good to know, I intended to go to law school with a philosophy major.

if you are just ur average joe and have no other skills ya philosophy degree is pretty useless by it self

I hear there's big money in running a philosophy shop.

Yep. Unless you actually want to teach it. Getting a PhD in philosophy and teaching it will get you 60,70,80k or 90k a yr but if you like it you could be happy. But a bachelors in philosophy is virtually useless

The Military will take him and give him a skill.

Can I BORROW like 4000...... I'm in law school too....help a fellow future lawyer out......ok??

@@percyastronautstatus.8780 Never EVER beg thats embarassing

@@piraat070 NEVER ever not do something because YOU FEEL that it's embarrassing, don't you think that this kind of mindset will massively hold you back long-term ? (I'd rather be a successful or rich embarrassment without regrets that at the very least tried, then a proud but unsuccessful old folk, that later regrets not having even tried because I was too afraid of being laughed at) Edit: just to note, I do somewhat agree with, don't beg, put in the work and use all the tools you have to earn it and then be proud of what you earned! Though I still hold firm on what I said about not letting potential embarrassment hold you back 💛

Still gotta study for that LSAT though, history major here going to law school, got an alright score first time around two weeks ago, now I'm gonna shoot for the 170 next test I take. Just gotta learn HOW to think

You cant just say go to law school, not everyone wants to be a lawyer, and not everyone has the money to pay for law school

Oof

Psychology with a minor in chemistry...also not so good.

Became a music teacher. Making $50k now. But working 70 hours a week to do it.

BassPlayer60134 what was your plan with the music degree? There are so many subjects I like but I know won’t get me too far financially lol. Philosophy being one of them.

I was a fool. Had no plan.

I am totally with you on this one. You have to make your luck. You can't just sit around, and be like I got a philosophy degree.

What’s his career in? Like specific job title cause I don’t know any that pay 6 figures to think unless it’s a think tank in DC but they usually want Political Science not philosophy

@@TheMarioMen1 *facepalm* I don't think he's emphasizing that he's getting paid to do Philosophy. He's showcasing an example of someone who was able to leverage their formal knowledge in Philosophy within the job market and do well.

@@_VISION. this is true. One if my friends did international relations for his undergrad and worked really hard to get into Yale and got a master's degree in philosophy and religion. He has been working for Google for about 3 years now. The point is that he was able to show he had a valuable set of skills that he could leverage and was simply smart.

@@muffinmixish That's awesome. What does he do at Google?

I agree -- you must be strategic and open. I double majored in Music and Spanish and when teaching in my field of studies didn't work out for me financially, I explored other industries. None of the jobs (or at least what I accepted) paid less than $15/hr. Within a few yrs, the jobs I qualify for now in the corporate law/contracts industry are in the 6-figure arena, even though I am not an attorney. That being said, if he is dead set on moving to finance, best of luck in his studies!

@TheLifeBidder not sure about the sales job...you don't need to have business acumen to sell....you need to have the courage to pick up the phone and cold call...if the company is any good they would provide the necessary sales training

@TheLifeBidder Really? I worked as an analyst in a post trade clearance and settlement firm and I didn't have a related major at all. It depends on who you work for.

Jason Taylor aaaaand that’s why sales people have such a bad reputation. Of course you need business acumen. If you want to sell cars no you won’t need much but let’s face it, you’re not getting into any coveted sales positions without a business background. Try telling that to salesforce, ibm, microsoft, adobe, etc etc

retail sales to customers perhaps. business to business, not so much the case, esp large businesses tend to be very conservative, risk averse, only wanting specific degrees without proven resume.

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@@tyson1chicken Oh! My bad, thank you so much!

@@johnhein2539 Thank you so much!

@love Dennis Thank you for this advice! I'll look into NP right now 😊

thechrisonater0514 did we watch different videos? In the one I watched the caller was able to answer all of Dave’s questions

Malcolm Joseph Salvador r/whooooosh

I laughed out loud!!!!

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Yeah that's how I felt

Tori Ellise. I have a history degree. I ended up monitoring clinical drug trials. I worked as a mental health worker and worked with a physician who did research. Now I would do it differently but no experience is wastedm

yes, he can actually turn his life around by the age of 30, instead of watching it go down the hill of poverty like most would do and blame the government or everything. with a new beginning you can be late ...but overtaking is allowed in life

@@crimsonite1524 exactly. I believe C.s Lewis said it best, "And if you have taken a wrong turning then to go forward does not get you any nearer. If you are on the wrong road progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive man. There is nothing progressive about being pig-headed and refusing to admit a mistake. And I think if you look at the present state of the world it's pretty plain that humanity has been making some big mistake. We're on the wrong road. And if that is so we must go back. Going back is the quickest way on."

I know. Most people get in denial and try to be positive about the stupid decisions they make rather than taking responsibility for the problem they put themselves into.

clericstorm2009 Good point!

I am surprised Dave did not bring that up. I’m afraid this guy will get another degree without a goal in mind.

Vintage Swiss Also, he didn’t seem totally versed on undergraduate curriculum. At least in my engineering program the first year was largely the same for STEM majors- but the second year was all major specific.

Good point. I just don't know how the guy could possibly work 40 hours a week, plus a side gig that will pay $1.5k, plus being a full time student. Who does that?

Yea I agree 12 credit hrs + 40 hr job + 30 hr uber/delivery ? = death

The dude was a philosophy major. He could start doing freelance writing gigs. I made $400 my first month as a freelance proof reader.

@@bucketrance 😂😂

I wouldn't even call it a "mistake", philosophy is an extremely good thing to understand in order to develop a deeper understanding of the world. However, yeah it's not very smart to study philosophy to earn a good income and pay bills.

@Josh S True.

First of all there are no mistakes, only lessons. Second of all, you need an English course. "You won't regret it one day"

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Not true. The median income of a philosophy degree is 45.000$. Thats a good average. According to glassdoor this is better paid even than degrees like chemistry, public relations or even psychology. And there are a lot of rich people that have studied philosophy. Peter Thiel for example studied philosophy (yea amongst others, but still).

Juan T 🙄😂

That is my reaction when I hear someone majoring in a useless major.

@@infamouscrusader3363 like psychology

@@kevin1seven923 Exactly. That is one example.

@@timo.10 Currently, I am majoring in English. I know, it was a pretty stupid idea but now I am half way int the program I feel like I might as well finish. If I could switch majors, I'd more likely switch to Computer Science or Information Technology, especially now since I am looking into Technical Writing. Right now, I am teaching myself some Programming Languages and Software Tools. I'm also thinking about taking some Computer Science courses in the future and possibly a minor but I'm not sure because most people in the subject who I spoke to said it can all be taught online and courses in websites like Git Hub. If I can't get into Technical Writing, my next plan is go to a Trade School or Community College and learn Web Design so I can get into Web Development while writing novels on the side (the real reason I majored in English and then I realized that was not such a good idea).

I was making more than you as an illegal immigrant fresh out of the border stfu

What and where do you work? Is it computer science?

I am glad that things have worked out well for you, but you must concede that in many other cases, students have not had the same fortune.

Yea, he should go to law school.

most people are shallow.

are you the Chris from Delaware?

Dave Odd Exactly. He could even get his teachers certificate and make an instant 37,000 a year

He’s clearly a lazy idiot

You could make more working at papa Johns. They hand out promotions like candy and the job itself is easy. I don’t know anyone making 20k anymore unless they seriously lack some motivation

1st year apprentices make mostly 10k more than that lol

I have a GED and clear 50K; in Tennessee.

Very expensive to do and very limited job market, unless you can get into a top school but after the University of Delaware that may be unlikely.

@@Gamenetreviews lol yeah if you don't go to a known law school you will end up as a public defender

Litigation, contracts, business/transactional, estate planning, insurance law etc pay very well and you don’t need to go to a private law school to get a good paying job as a lawyer. Nebraska College of Law and Creighton graduated most of the lawyers in Nebraska and they’re doing well with less debt. Even JD preferred jobs like compliance and lobbyist/analyst pay well depending on your experience. I’m glad I went to Nebraska rather than American George Washington - an expensive private school I also got a scholarship for. DC was way too expensive and it wouldn’t have been worth it. Anyway, my fav professor taught at UCLA and George Washington. So I got private school level professor paying a quarter of the cost.

@@schuylergeery-zink1923 you went to Nebraska? Haha my older brother is going there

Yep, I have a philosophy degree and went to law school, that was the plan from freshman year. Most people in my major had the same path, or wanted to go to graduate schools for similar reasons. It's not necessarily dumb to major in philosophy, it's dumb to not have a plan after graduation.

@TheLifeBidder Yep, thank you for saying exactly what I said, but with more passion.

More so, don’t hinge your undergraduate degree on going to grad school. You may not get in, you may get in and fail, you may get in and realize you hate the profession you anticipated entering...if your undergraduate degree is worthless, you’ve squandered your opportunity.

Agreed or I knew some that were doing that business. It's all how you plan it.

That is a very good idea; wish I'd done that.

Even active duty guys recommend going Guard but they’re really not advertised as well, only portrayed as “weekend soldiers” but they get literally all the benefits of AD while living in your home state, not having to move every 3 to 4 years, etc

I have taken 3 philosophy courses. So I must be part of that 1%.

Taking philosophy 101 on the way to an engineering degree is fine, but don't major in philosophy.

@@libertarian4323 Funny you mention engineering. My friend did mechanical engineering... currently unemployed for the past 2 years.

Never have. But I retired at 52 so now I have time to ponder things.

@@Pcarnevaaa Mechanical engineering is trash. Software engineering is where its at 😎

Exactly, he can get an MBA in about the same amount of time

@Brandon Juber true. good luck bro. keep it up

@Brandon Juber what do you do now and how was it?

RealLife Money - Weekly Financial Videos That’s EXACTLY what caught my attention!!

Hey, he got a free education and a degree (he will never be like others -- changed forever) so he _hardly_ messed up.

Nick, he fell for one scam and wants to sign up for yet another.

Did you get the degree because you liked the subject or was there another reason?

@@kuhataparunks Yeah I transferred from Risk Management (where the average salary out of college is $75k/year) to Philosophy because I started studying apologetics and wanted to learn how to think more clearly to ground my faith (I had just become a Christian a year before). So I went into Philosophy because of how it was shaping me as a person, which I think is more important than your "career." I'm not saying everyone should do it, but I really just made my comment above to demonstrate that you can create a "career" with a philosophy degree. It's just a more challenging and indirect path.

I think the problem is that people want to get rich quick. I am doing a liberal studies degree and plan on following in your steps.

This is what I was thinking to. I was like a BA isn't going to have a huge crossover with a BS or BBA in finance because the first 2 years in fact aren't copy in paste when there's that much of a change.

I was just saying this very thing.... could’ve save me some typing if I’d have scrolled down more. Except for math, we did have to take Finite, Calculus, and business statistics as pre-reqs during years 1-2 and there wasn’t a bypass for those.... but every school is different I guess! I agree that he should think about just getting the MBA. The work experience might still be a problem when he gets out, but at least he wouldn’t have wasted 3 years on another bachelors degree!

Yeah, my wife has a philosophy degree as her only degree and she makes a lot more money than I do as a software engineer. The degree isn't directly related to her work (which isn't uncommon at all), but the skills she picked up are relevant.

@@cubicle47 if you don't mind sharing sir, what is your wife job title and what is her job needing her to do?

Well known i mean prostitution fits that criteria

@@techmedia1360 One criterion, two criteria.

I grew up in NJ. University of DE was known as the "University of Drunkenness" and was where you went if you want to go to college to party and not study. (

Nah

@@dtulip58 Good refutation, you'd do well in phil class XD.

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It’s not like you can study whatever you want in college. You won’t be allowed to take STEM courses unless you were good at math in high school. And schools don’t have enough space for everyone in certain courses.

@@theunitedworldofworkers7274 Anything in community college would still be better

Wasted...

@@theunitedworldofworkers7274 did you go to college? Who told you you can’t take a STEM course? You can you just have to work on your math skills

@@cptfreeman8966 I’m currently a computer science major. So my math skills are pretty sharpened. But apparently only 27% of the US population is proficient at math. So I’m not going to sit here and say that everyone should be forced to do something that doesn’t naturally fit their personality. A lot of people wouldn’t be able to excel at Calculus and my major goes beyond to differential equations.

What about now? Status update please 🙏

It's not a scam. It's a hugely overpriced bubble

Not me. I think it is a scam for most because they major in subjects that lead to low paying jobs and can be easily self-taught. I suggest most people to do other options such as Trade School, Community College, and depending on their plans in life, go into Business themselves. There are other options.

@@abec8211 That's what a scam is. Most degrees are not worthwhile.

It’s a scam when you get a philo degree

Hate to say it, but it is a scam in general. Only go to college if you're trying to become a doctor, lawyer, engineer, scientist, etc.

Yeah, he should just get the MBA. Lots of opportunities there.

This is a good suggestion

@@bsca1956 Yes Im A finance Manger for amazon in seattle

MUCH better plan. I doubt you worked 2 FT while you did it

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It'll take philosophers generations to answer that question. Anyone who's learned how to run a cost benefit analysis can answer that question pretty quickly.

Me too. It'll be hard but he definitely has the attitude to do this

It's a good degree. What kind of philosophy did you major in?

What school, if you don't mind sharing? How much did you make year one? What field are you in, did you have established connections prior to getting in it? How long did it take to make 85K?

Useless degree unless you teach

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Herbert Scott I went to UC Berkeley. I spent my first year out of school making about $50k and about 2.5 years make $85k.

Do you mean pell grants? 1. You only get your income counted as an independent at age 26, the caller is only 25 otherwise they count your parents income. 2. The caller already has his bachelors and aside from graduate plus loans for graduate school, the federal government does not give financial aid past your bachelor's degree.

Ashley Rahn you are right. I totally missed that. Funny story: because I graduated with a semi useless degree, I asked my school to rescind my bachelors degree so I could qualify for pull grants. They said no.

@@ashleyrahn2776 I am 24 and was now considered independent so my parent's income wasnt required anymore for the Pell Grant. Also, the new maximum for Pell Grant is just above $6k/year. The duration if being given the grant is only for a duration of 150% of time required for your degree and it isn't availabme for post graduates so you're right on him not being able to receive anymore.

Grants are for ppl w/o degrees

You dont qualify for Pell Grant after completing your first bachelor's degree

Philip Patek Did four in the corps and now I don’t have to worry about college “money-wise” one bit. Best investment I’ve ever done. Rah

that guy would do air force or army NG. marine benefits are the shittiest.

Any major will do for law school.

Hope you don't find it too miserable.

According to some studies I’ve read, physics and math majors do best on the LSAT. However, it’s hard to deny that a philosophy background is helpful, especially since logical reasoning is the majority of the exam.

No, you silly person. Studies conducted by law schools that I read when I took the LSAT years ago. No need to be so defensive.

oh god. Law school is a bigger scam than undergrad.

College as a whole boosts your average income up about 10k from someone who doesn't have one. That is on average and it depends on what you major in, and if someone can get into a good trade that's an awesome option, but a 10k boost per year for life on average is pretty major when you multiply that over the 40-50 years people generally work. Just if you're gonna do philosophy do a double major or do it as a minor and choose a viable career too.

It's a scam when your parents and or guardians allow you to major is a completely useless degree.

That’s a false generalized statement. College opens a lot of doors to higher paying careers. Certain majors are a waste of time, and if you go into a ton of debt...that’s not smart. But go to a cheap school and it’s highly beneficial.

Josh agreed

Not a scam if you don't let it scam you. Me friends and family all engineers, nurses, physician assistants, nurse practitioners, etc. All make 60-150k salary. The key is a job in demand

What do you do for a living?

I like your approach. I'm in a similar boat with a math degree. The degree is pretty much just a label, it matters "who" holds the degree.

What is your job ? 🤔 how much do you make? I'm thinking of doing a philosophy major but every philosophy major says it's a good major but they don't say what they work in and how much they make

@@Cristian-ks3hy I also had a minor in psychology.

@@talyahr3302 So how much of your success can be attributed to the arguably more marketable psychology minor?

Absolutely. I enlisted and retired after 23 years. Its not an easy life because the military is more than a job which is why people don't go in but I sure am glad I did and stuck with it. Unfortunately they don't offer the 20 yr high 3 retirement plan anymore but its still a decent job opportunity.

To shoot or not to shoot...

He didn't need to. The caller already saw his mistake.

Cute words, but clueless. If you find yourself in a career trying to undercut Guatemalans for jobs, you've ruined your life.

I think a good compromise: kids should minor if it’s a soft degree, like a combo would be Accounting + music, computer science + philo, that way their “dreams” aren’t crushed (kids get bitter if you force them into anything) they realize music might not be feasible from courses & they’ll still have a practical degree to fall back on

chris King Sometimes you’re not aware until it’s too late.

@@noogerbenaffleckisanokayac3628 Why not just have them learn subjects like Music and Philosophy on their own and not waste a lot of time and money for a minor instead? That can teach them that they don't have to spend a lot of money on things the would like to do.

chris King you never know what major pays off. I’m receiving a stem degree soon, and I’m still looking for offers

@@Superpaul205 So what? Obviously the job offers won't come easy but it doesn't change the fact that one pays off more than the other.