a variety of things actually, but windows 7-10 mainly depending along with a ton of linux and other custom things.. it really depends on what area of the government..
@@arg_mark Older versions of windows are only run on LAN networks due to security issues. A lot of surface level government agencies use win10 in the US now.
@@pileofboxes probably. Except they caused an internet epidemic lol these kids think they doing something by sprinkling some random shit in the text 😭🙏
I work for the Department of Defense. I can confirm the version of Windows we use on my work laptop doesn't have any of the annoying shit Microsoft tries to pedal at you. Then I get on my personal laptop and have to navigate through about 30 news articles about shit I don't care about an a notification to renew my McAfee subscription that I never had
I work for the DOD too, our computer do have bits of windows bloatware, some it works,some of it doesn't. Doesn't matter because there is about a dozen government bloatware apps on there to monitor usage or enable specific network access.
I work for the govt and "debloated" is not what I would call our OS. For every thing removed we got more security shit added to eat all our shitty CPU resources lol
@VincentvanFlow: Symantec Endpoint Security, probably some surveillance-ware on systems destined for NIPRNet that would dial back to “certain individuals”. Yeahhh, it doesn’t have much past basic security because that just gets provisioned in the imaging center anyhow, along with OS hardening and group policy modifications. Can’t even fart the wrong way without “certain individuals” notifying the brigade S1.
@@JuanPiece. don't hate on AUTTP. they're reminding people to not give the bot what it wants. i almost replied to the bot, before AUTTP reminded me not to do so.
@@JuanPiece. this is the first comment secction I've seen them on and it's the first one in wich the POS spammer didn't have a bunch of interaction. they seem to be doing quite a git of good.
I've got a horror story for you Mutahar that kinda relates to this: I work as a service technician on air compressors in Norway. Most of our customers have their compressors placed in a technical room along with servers, ventilation controls, building electrical controls and other miscellaneous equipment since the noise levels in those rooms are already high, and they always find it logical to place a compressor there as well since it's quite noisy and don't want to have it in their vicinity. My customers include (to name just a few) police stations, car repair shops, hospitals, fire stations, the army ( !! ) water treatment facilities and it even includes Norway's biggest producer of silica and microsilica. All of these have an enormous amount of personal data and valuable company data. I never get checked if I have anything with me that I'm not supposed to, I always work alone, I usually have my work-laptop with me, there are never any cameras around in there and I never get frisked or checked when my work is done. In the worst cases, the computers in the server-rooms are just sitting there logged in and running. I know this because I sometimes have to use their system (which I am allowed to do) to either shut something down, change something or check to see if everything is alright while I work on the compressor. There is absolutely nothing stopping me from bringing along a USB stick to either download, upload or do whatever I want to the servers. The amount of trust is baffling to me. As always; social engineering is by far the most effective way of getting hacked. But in my situation, if any person in my position had malicious intent, they wouldn't even need to do any social engineering. It's literally just walking in and do whatever you want. And this is probably not isolated to my profession and my country. Scary stuff. Just wanted to share.
I work for the union that services the server cooling systems in the Chicago metro. We are also not really frisked or anything. They just trust that the union would send trustworthy guys. Makes no sense.
As someone who works for the government, the network is absolute garbage and slow, the restrictions are heavy (understandably for security purposes), but you are able to bypass certain unclassified government websites or unique applications as long as you have the credentials for it. Separately, you cannot access certain secret/top secret information unless you have that specific network for it. And you have to work for the government for that
Interesting to see the lengths governments will go to ensure privacy and control over their operating systems. Sticking with well-known sources when downloading or getting OS's is a safe bet to avoid potential malware.
Because too many people complained that they "broke" things such as "my Phone" "Xbox" etc. There has also been revelations in that, stripping Windows down doesn't actually improve performance but can harm performance. Since it's entirely spaghetti code, dependencies etc. People have tested with benchmarking software + LDAT etc.
@@griffin1366 Yup, I stripped down Windows as much a possible, still kept working updates, major update woes don't effect me, telemetry is disabled. Options of whether I want updates or gaming Windows crap or not. An effort. 100% correct about the performance stuff. Even using ParkControl and Process Lasso Pro. Did a like for like benchmark with Geekbench on Windows 11 and CachyOS. Cachy obliterates a stripped down Win 11. Doesn't matter what you do to Windows, it's an unoptimized bloated horse of a thing at the very best.
I find it kind of hilarious that Microsoft basically said "trust me bro, there's no telemetry" to the chinese government and that the chinese government believed them.
The Chinese government isn't stupid, they have security researchers who could analyze the system and verify. And they probably don't use it for anything too important, because there probably is a secret backdoor after all to be used only on a rainy day as its use would expose the backdoor's existence
they probably reverse-engineered it and reconstructed it themselves using this as the base or used linux and a ton of drivers they had to write or something
Windows 11 Enterprise G is simply skeleton Windows with a few bones missing. By "few bones missing," I meant take out the toe bones, the fingertips (keep the whole thumb), 3 rows of ribs, and the nasal bone.
No need to install a backdoor for a government version. They're all going to have security software installed on top of it which is going to include monitoring systems. Everything you do on a government system can be audited and tracked for the most part.
Basically they take all the tracking microsoft has in there and redirect it back to the 3 letter agencies instead of microsoft. I would imagine every country ( mine included ) has similar rebuilding happening to windows
It was meant for governments which aren't in great relations with US, such as the Chinese government. They clearly don't want a backdoor for NSA or other US agency. Of course, I doubt Microsoft bothered to remove that.
This video so reminded me of the incident with the USS Yorktown in the 1990s. The ship had to be towed back to port because Windows crashed. At the time, Yorktown was the most advanced warship in its class.
Blame the clueless youtubers doing those stupid performance videos changing a few settings, ive been debloating for years, check sophia script does more than the one he showed
I work for a state government. We still use DOS for certain applications. There’s a mainframe that my mom used before I was born that is still in use. Attempts to modernize have ended in disaster.
Damn. DOS. Question is, is this the DOS running on default in windows 95 and 98 or the one before that didn't come with a graphic interface beforehand?
What you saw (not just sog) was reconstruction from legit files (custom iso to be clear and entg to be specific) + filler (for edition manifest catalog) from previous windows build. how did it spread. The edition manifest catalog is from 10.0.19041.1 (may 2020 update). oh, there is no produced by info (that you saw) after reconstruction, right, unchanged, like i don't remember if produced by and entg exclusive stuff are like this, but iirc they are empty.
Idk about the entire DoD, but this isn't what is used in my experience. What you're looking for is called "Standard Desktop Configuration", a modified version of Windows that doesn't really touch features but rather hardens the operating system via Security Technical Implementation Guides (STIGs). Most STIGs are just registry edits or Group Policy changes aimed at securing the system.
Government personnel here, most of our PCs run slow as can be still with the special version of windows, most of our stuff does NOT run windows XP rather 10 or 11, still runs awfully for our PCs having like 32gb of ram.
Could the slowness be on purpose? Like maybe they dont want you doing things too fast so that they can more easily track what youre doing? Likely not but still 😅
@@bypell It is on purpose, but only because of all the security they add to the OS. If they have to accept slower computers to prevent ol' China or Russia from hacking into their system, then they'll accept it.
@@XBluDiamondX if their computers have 32gb of ram, I doubt buying a better cpu to run all their security stuff without hurting performance too much is out of their budget. Its probable that they just dont care or (unlikely) the slowness benefits them in some way.
The elite / upper class benefit from the lower / middle class suffering. There's also the the theory of other world domination that I can't talk about here.
4:36 yes, because it's an old feature of Windows 7 that they never updated to the new Win 11 UI. From normal Windows 10 and 11 (maybe 8 also), it will say that. Most stuff in the old control panel will forward you to the current settings app, they want to get rid of the control center and made it nearly completely unusable. The thing you actually wanted was "Winver"
@@conspiringcolton He made a few videos a couple years ago going over different government operating systems, and recently there's been a few more. In terms of the debloat software, he's been talking about it for awhile now as far as I remember
Regarding debloat scripts, I think that was described in a misleading way. As far as I know a lot of stuff _cannot_ be removed with just debloat scripts. You would have to edit a Windows install to create a custom one (which I hear is mostly legal/legal if you have and use own purchased install media). I remember doing this back for Windows 7, but teams release this stuff too. At best the scripts probably only _disable_ most stuff, but they probably don't even get everything possible. an edited install will have the components stripped out to begin with, making virtually anything removable (albeit with the potential to cause unstable, broken, or even corrupt systems if too much is removed), and fully removed such that it takes up less space rather than still taking up storage space.
I work for the government, so I use this version. It's great there is no bloat. However, agencies have to load the systems with so many of their applications and the security is so strict that everything takes forever to load. When I need to google something, I usually just use my home desktop because I will randomly be asked my password if I search the weather on my work PC.
I can't even search the weather on my work PC and it's not even a government job! 😭 Fintech might just give the CIA a run for it's lockdown all the things money.
@@AUTTP564 they replied to every single comment. I have no idea what they're hoping for. No one is gonna click their profile to watch their videos from a comment like that.
@@theangrycynic4389 I know it's A bot. I just don't get what they're hoping to achieve with it other than making youtube worse. The ones that have sexual PFPs or names that get you to click on them, I can see achieving the goal of getting people to click their scam link. They seem to be making things worse just to make things worse.
11:40 there has to be some file of spyware for the United States government to someone watch what someone does with this windows program. Again I have no clue how I would find it but there has to be something on here
It isn't "government edition" it is just one of those custom debloated images. How do I know they are fake? Because everyone I have seen is preauthorized with a KMS key. Key Management Server is how corporations manage their licenses and none come preauthorized. It has to connect to your KMS server to authorize. Microsoft doesn't hand out preauthorized anything.
As a government contractor, that is the primary for image creation and deployment in multiple environments and contracts, there's nothing special about this edition. This is literately just an enterprise version that has gone through something like the script shown or the VMWare Optimization Tool, or some stripped down enterprise AMI images from AWS. It's the most base you can get before doing anything like group policy changes (Which most people forget you can also do locally too, not just on a domain thing). This is all just standard practice. None of this is news. It's been a thing for over a decade. P.S. - Micro$oft does spy on you in any way it can and about the only way you can stop it from doing so is pretty much setting up port blocking and ACLs from your router/modem/external network device. Otherwise Micro$oft will try to phone home, even on these stripped down versions.
I enjoy all of your content but this shit is so interesting to me... I'm a 29-year-old DevOps engineer but from like age 11 I loved pulling weird images off the internet and virtualizing them. This is so my jam.
I used to work for the UK Government and they had the same with Windows XP. It was on a intranet with absolutely nothing on it except the application required to do the job. It was the most boring PC I have ever used in my life, I have had more fun with an ATM machine than that piece of $hit. I resigned in the end it was that fukin depressing. 😧☹
0:09 yo there is another channel that is doing like some deep web diving videos that kind of remind me of this channel very interesting he went into a bunch of chat rooms. I felt like I was cheating on Muta
In case some ppls are interested about installing this version, I just wanted to make a quick note, I have tested a lot of versions of Windows 11, and especially the LTSC and LTSC Iot versions, you will get disappointed when you will experience regular crashes or even some games that doesn't even launch due to Nvidia/AMD drivers not supporting properly this versions of Windows. I had to restore my Windows 11 Pro to get a stable experience back, bcs LTSC are only okay if you don't do graphics stuff, everything that don't require the latest Nvidia drivers will be fine, once you need gaming or do some render in Blenders, or whatever related to graphics... Forget about this versions, they run pretty stable most of the times but sometimes apps or games just crash ! So about this "Government Edition" it's probably the same regarding stability with Nvidia/AMD drivers, that's to say probably crap !
You can turn off telemetry in group policy on enterprise based systems already, consumers versions like home and pro can only disable until "required only", not fully.
Depending on what part of the government you're talking will determine which system is used. The government system I used close to four decades ago was text based and was its own operating system called SIDPERS. You can look it up online actually if you want to know more about it. I used that system to communicate with places like the White House. SIDPERS was eventually deactivated and replaced with another operating system later. The government, in general, may seem stupid at times, but is not stupid enough to use Windows as its operating system to run its military operations or security. They have their own systems. Thank goodness for that much. 😂
Just double checked on my current installation of Windows 11 Pro, the "Backup and Restore (Windows 7)" also exists in the Control Panel of the "normal" version of Windows 11. You still can invoke it via running control.exe, but some functionality doesn't work any more and redirects straight to the mess that is the Settings app, which then in turn potentially redirects to the old dialogs which haven't been changed since Windows XP or even longer (Sound dialog for instance). And Minesweeper and Pinball (IIRC) haven't been part of Windows since I believe Windows 8 or something along those lines.
Sounds kind of like LTSC. Its great in theory, but eventually you will come across some software that relies on some of the new MS bloat that is gone. I've made that mistake already, which is why I deploy the more weak kneed Education Edition. No Disney, or 365 Trial, but still Xbox Game Bar and the horrendous search bar. The bloat you're deleting is only on the user profile, it will all come back again when someone else logs in or a service pack hits, not even worth fighting it.
I do use LTSC privately and for my business. So far, i have not run into any issue. I use engineering software, CAD/CAM and privately i play games sometimes and even newer titles work as intended.
The Windows 11 reminds me of Windows 10 for government version. Where the user can work with sensitive information (in Microsoft Office 365) and does not have access to the Internet and mail, which is most important not to have access. There is nothing new, about Windows 11 Enterprise G version.
I just wished the vendors could respect that not all “end users” want products for “end users” but enterprise the “consumer” even if they’re a small market. I don’t need it to do gaming. I want to connect it to my own cloud where I have enterprise class software. Not all of us are LGR, the computer clan fanboys we despise them.
These barebones images are a base image that actual work desktop images are built on top of. Although you're right about "calling home," the telemetry is still present.
I do think there's something funny in the irony if a ton of people download this thinking they're going to be super private without looking into anything and them missing that whole "China controls the the telemetry" if this is the Chinese version that leaked lol
I was hoping you’d cover this. Thank you for sharing! There’s also a security compliance toolkit that does something to a similar effect with customizability for your current install.
The sheer fact that US users install Chinese government Windows and consider the threat of the Chinese government spying on them less serious than Microsoft ruining their day and productivity with their bloatware and needless telemetry is hillarious by itself. Have been a user of nLite versions of Windows since Windows XP. Windows 98 'stripped-down' look is what suits my needs. This is a goddamn operating system, not Fortnite. I use it to run stuff not watch advertisements and enjoy the view while waiting for another 'important update' to install.
It's like MS brought back Windows 2000...... It IS possible to make a clean unbloated OS they just choose not to for the rest of us ! I have a machine with 10 Enterprise LTSC and it's a dream !
@@griffin1366 please don't tell me that "system timers" is something like useplatformclock/tick and 0.5ms timer resolution, bc they are complete bs and don't work or make performance worse
@@griffin1366 my comment disappeared, but when I hear about tweaks you mentioned I remember so many placebo tweaks... I was in this rabbit hole for some time and tried many of them, now my windows is almost stock
@@0ka354 You inspired me to do a fresh install! Oh my lord the input latency is awful! I applied some basic tweaks one by one, restarting inbetween and it feels better every time. Definitely not placebo!
So they have this so whoever owns it can apply their own OS Encryption Key. Got it. But, can the Founding Governments break that themselves from an outside view like if a citizen got ahold of one & encrypted the whole thing? 🤨 Also, you can’t minimise or maximise because your window sizes can get you tracked. It’s kinda insane they legit forced that as a rule, I wonder exactly how severe that “vulnerability” is for them to force it onto that type of a degree. 🤨 Bet if you look it up it wont have nothing about it. 😉 Edit: Yep, I can’t find anything about that. 💀
4:36 - That's been there since Windows 8. Microsoft changed how PC backups work, but has left the legacy way of doing it there too. As for this version of Windows... It just sounds like a royal pain in the ass for a consumer. Even if you don't realize it, there's tons of stuff missing which the average users would need.
I would pay double the price for a version of Windows straight from Microsoft (not some unknown anonymous third party) with all the useless garbage and telemetry cut out of it. All I want is an operating system. That is it. I use Linux at home, but an officially debloated version of Windows is something many businesses would jump at, even for a higher price.
I was about to say, I've worked for a government agency, and our copy of Windows still had the fucking bloat, there was just slightly less of it, at least where it mattered the most. It was nowhere near as baren as this.
