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@Noah Bryant I mean, it literally sents armed swat team to a house with thoughts that there are armed psycho murderers in the building. One wrong move from people inside will be their last
@Noah Bryant 1 out of 200 deaths by law enforcement (i.e. police fucking killing someone) are unarmed people. Yeah, this is attempted murder. If it's not, then it *absolutely* falls under one of the weird categories of, like, manslaughter, or something.
Ik this is pretty serious but imagine being a police officer and walking into a room turning to the right and seeing a $15000 life sized statue of Jackie chan
As an LA Officer today i'd propably be thinking "a streamer lives here" ... as an LA officer in the 90s i'd propably think: "a drug dealer lives here".
Im a deputy sheriff and I have walked into plenty of dark storage rooms at different retail businesses, with full sized mannequins in them. Scary as hell. “OH JESUS CHRIST WHAT IS THIS NAKED MAN DOING HIDING BACK HERE WTF” “oh whew it’s a plastic mannequin” lmao
@@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022 What police are you taking to? I have met dozens of officers and all of them have been great people, ESPECIALLY in areas with high crime rates like where I used to live. I’ve had my life saved by an officer and I hate it when people like you say shit like that about officers. 247 officers were killed in the line of duty last year, I wonder if the families of the officers killed would agree with what you said, I know that I don’t.
It took until the third officer to notice Jackie Chan standing there, if it was the real Jackie he could of done so much damage, they need to be retrained to check their corners.
@@flybasilisk7834 swatting has killed people before, as has many instances of sending armed police forces to people's homes. People have been arrested for it. You're an idiot if you think multiple people with guns isn't threat of violence. At best this is a death threat.
After watching the anthony padilla interview with QT, I'm shocked Ludwig was able to handle this so calmly. I hope both are okay and some real change actually gets done about this (although knowing the state of our world that's a fat no but hey i can dream)
I've been told several times to move/get another job because I was a victim of a crime. I got handcuffed for saying "how about I start doing crime?!" .. so don't ever go down that road lol
Just a reminder that Tyler Barriss is 3 years deep into his TWENTY YEAR SENTENCE for swatting. We really need to track down & persecute swatters more. Should be sent to prison at minimum for such gross misappropriation of first responder resources, and the danger you're attempting to put the victim in.
@@RevJ7 In 2017 Tyler swatted a guy he was playing COD against online and baited him to give his address. Except the guy tricked him and gave him his old address where he used to live. Tyler ended up swatted that address except he doesn't realize he's been given the wrong house. Some poor guy who had moved into this house a year ago and had no idea what was happening had a swat team arrive and unfortunately he was shot dead.
I would be annoyed (not mad) that the police failed to do their job. He’s already on their record of ppl that got swatted before. He’s supposed to get notified via phone like they told him he would. That’s how things are supposed to work based on what another streamer said (who’s also been swatted before)
Here after QT's interview with Anthony Padilla and honestly nods to you for handling this situation so calmly and with such ease. Swatting is such a serious thing and I'm so sorry you had and still have to go through this.
If you don't have a problem with flies getting swatted, u should not have a problem with humans getting swatted either. It is just a prank and there is no harm.
@@SoyAntonioGaming that's not from getting shot by the police because some weasel called from his mother's basement because the discord kitten hasn't been sending tits lately and he needs some attention
@@yeeyee2739 after they told him multiple times in the same previous situations that they would call him if it happened again and instead they give him a snarky response for not following through
You can register your address as a swatting risk with links to all possible streams for the house and phone numbers for them to check on them when they get a call. I don't know if it's a universal thing yet but I know it can be done in a lot of places
Yeah, reducing government access to private property is the solution. They wait an hour for kids' dire fates in a public school to play out but immediately break into your home without even knocking or ringing the door bell, for a mere call or message sent to them by a rando. And they have the connection data, so if the caller didn't use a burner phone they could easily pinpoint and sue them. But they clearly don't do that or it would be way less common.
@@outside8312 But it sounds like Ludwig did that already. But they don't check. Sounds to me like their actual IT solution doesn't display it properly to the 911 operators, so they don't check.
I feel like there should be an easier way to locate callers so that they can get prison time for this. It’s not fair for streamers to get swatted by trolls all the time.
For some reason, i have never heard of this being a normal thing for big streamers. I thought Lud was dodging the accusations but if there weren't any to begin with, it makes more sense if it's just trolls.
As someone who has been swatted myself, I agree greatly with your points as I wish there were a way for the police to determine these fake calls. Or atleast be able to tell if it's not from a real phone/VPN.
Its because police are there to protect and they want to get to the call as fast as possible and domestic disputes are one of the most dangerous calls a cop can go to so thats why they always take it super serious. especially if its in a big city like LA.
I actually think they know, but they still have to check it out, on the off chance ot is actually a crime, so when they get there and figure it is just a bunch of innocent guys, they take the opportunity to be in on the prank and terrorise them more for jollies and to pump their own egos.
I'm a 911 dispatcher, the problem with those special contact numbers like Lud is talking about is that we aren't allowed to use them in the scenarios that Lud would want us to. If the caller is reporting an immanent life safety issue to a third party, we have to send the response regardless. The whole emergency first responder system is set up first and foremost to minimize liability for the city/county/agency/whatever. We can see the flag on the address and know that there probably isn't really anything going on. But there's a 1 in a million chance that Lud finally snapped and is roasting Aiden over the firepit in the attic. And the city doesn't want to get sued by Aiden's parents for just calling Lud and accepting his word that "no really Aiden's totally fine and not cringe." So the number is always gonna get ignored. The only time we'd be able to use it is if the swatter was reporting that Lud himself was the victim of the crime. But swatters know that, so they don't do it.
So why not send just 2 cop cars to just check instead of a whole swat team BEFORE FINALLY SEEING IF ITS SOMETHING SERIOUS TO THEN SEND A SWAT TEAM. LIKE SERIOUSLY WHATS EVEN THE FUCKING POINT OF HAVING THE NUMBER. ACAB. JUST CALL THE PERSON, VERIFY, IF NOT DO THAT, SEND 2 COPS, HAVE THEM CHECK, IF IT IS INDEED SERIOUS THEN GET SWAT TEAM INVOLVED. ACAB ACAB ACAB FUCK U
Okay, but you could check the stream? If he's live then you don't have to send anybody. Also it's really a really idiotic system in general that there's not a way to identify the person calling. It should be the basis for any action take. Fricken ridiculous.
My gf is a dispatcher. I will say, a lot of what dispatchers tell officers is ignored. Officers also have a very bad habit of not sharing information. So if an officer told you they would call, they likely never told the dispatchers that or their fellow officers. The dissemination of information within law enforcement is extremely poor on all ends. She is constantly frustrated about it so it's not just you.
As an EMT, county dispatchers give a lot of info and my personal dispatch cant even give 1/4 of what they said to me. I'm lucky to get an exact address from my dispatch but the county will tell me 90% of what I need without issue.
@@cedricdavis513 Damn, what a coincidence that they gave a description of their local police department and didn't generalise. Obviously, since both their local office and Ludwig's local office have similar communication problems, this comment was centred around that similarity and not an attempt at implying that all departments are like this. But aye, focus in on the one thing that you can use as a justification to be angry instead of the rest of what was said, it definitely doesn't make you come across as overly defensive.
@@bunndumm yeah, I like how he throws subtle and not so subtle insults instead of getting actively mad. Sends the message that the loser failed the swatting, and they can't even respond and just have to take the insults since they can't really give any form of id. My guy became more of a loser, even AFTER swatting someone. That's a rough life. Lmao
I don’t understand how people get off to almost killing someone. like, I just can’t imagine the thought process to call the police and make them send the swat team to a guy on the family I pad.
It's the same as kids who edit their YT comments when the get a lot of likes "Look mom im famous" "OmG 2000 likes!" Why? why do that? Attention. They crave Attention. I'd cringe out if my skin begging for attention that hard.
Swatting is disgusting especially when it ends in a life lost. Very happy that nothing bad happened in this swat. Keep up the good content Ludwig we all support you!
Excuse me? Some officers might be racist but that doesn't mean all are. I do feel bad for the blacks who have been killed on purpose but its not all police officers. How do you know that those officers that walked through the door were racist?
"I can't believe the childish actions of the guy who did this". It's not "childish actions". It's literally attempted murder of everyone you suspect may be home at the time. Including the little kitty. Hope the guy rots in prison for the full 55.
@@olmcskrtskrt8245 Exactly, so why should they get 55 years in prison for one mistake they made when they were underage. I will never understand how unsympathetic people are towards criminals.
@@dylancarlson9902 because someone did this on purpose with the intent to be malicious and cause trauma, they deserve to go to prison, they need to be somewhere where they can't hurt others and they can try and learn from their mistakes. there is absolutely no way you can call this just a silly lil mistake, that's a very common abusive mindset to have, for one person it's just a little mistake they made but for the other person it can give them horrible trauma and ptsd for the rest of their life
@@dylancarlson9902 lol what kind of take is this? Just criminals as a fucking whole? Yeah man, people are way too hard on murder and rapists. It's disgusting.
As a 911 dispatcher of 9 years (yes... I'm a boomer Ludbud, I know), they should have access to priors at any address in their jurisdiction. This information should also be broadcast when dispatching units. I'm sure Lud's probably at a different address from the previous swatting but hopefully they'll take this information into account if someone tries this BS again. Sorry this happened and I'm glad everyone's okay.
Problem with that is if you wanted to do some hella illegal shit, you'd just need to get the address swatted a few times and it would be safer for you to then do the illegal stuff.
@@anonimase4315 From my understanding it doesn't stop them from investigating, it just changes how they approach the investigation. They're less likely to shoot you I would think.
They more than likely do not check. Same thing as not verifying addresses on a warrant and then raid the wrong house/apartment and make a big enough scene that the person they are supposed to be raiding bounce.
"You can literally go to my stream and see a camera that displays what I'm doing, and what you'll find out is: "Most times, it's not murder."" Bwhahahahahahaha cracked me up!
Those cops that had to respond to that fake call could have been doing so much more important things as well. Honestly extremely disappointing that people still do this and it's just sad
@@cagethelonewolf Normally its to get the fbi to shoot their pets or fuck shit up in their house that swat went horribly for the guy that swatted ludwig
Not only that, it’s a criminal misuse of emergency services. All emergency calls have to be taken seriously, and bs like this is just horrendously dangerous and unfair to people who actually need the help
I was thinking the exact same thing. A sign on the door that reads "A RU-vidR LIVES HERE. IF YOU ARE A SWAT TEAM OR POLICE I MAY BE A VICTIM OF "SWATTING". YOU ARE WELCOME TO ENTER, BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND WE ARE NOT A THREAT. ALSO PLEASE DON'T LET THE CAT OUT".
I’m so infuriated for you hearing this story. What the hell is wrong with people?!?! But, you burned em good with the 55 minutes vs 55 years thing. Very true. Only a pathetic fool with no life ahead of them would do such a thing. I TRULY HOPE they never find the cold side of their pillow. EVER!!! (Those are some FIGHTING words btw) Love ya Lud.
@@macbookfatty281 I made the name Dan Fart as a joke. But ever since then, I just haven’t stopped farting. It’s a curse/blessing. Depending on if I’m in the mood to pass gas.
I think a RU-vidr SunnyV2 made a really good point about swatting through his IcePoseidon swatting video, by giving swatters no attention, they will give up eventually
This really really really just shows how 0 to 100 the police force in America responds to situations. A domestic abuse tip? Ignored! Sexual assault report? Ignored! A concerned parent calling about their missing child? Probably just ran away, who cares! Let’s wait more than 48 hours to really minimize their chances of returning home alive. Oh, but a random phone number from Minnesota or Wisconsin or England or the fucking middle of the ocean is giving an anonymous tip about a double suicide murder sexual assault incident in Los Angeles at this suspiciously famous individual’s home who they have been reported about several times in the past as false alarms? It’s fucking disgusting.
This actually sucks. And its crazy how a few years ago anyone's reaction would be "WHAT" but now it's so old and known about that all you think is "not again." Glad everyone is safe and no one was hurt, sorry to the officer that fell through the floor, must of wanted to do to a backwards Jump King.
Literally feels like no one really "cares" about swatting. People used to be crazy shocked about it and get a big reaction. Now, it seems to happen so often no one really cares so not only does Ludwig have an "eh" reaction to it so does majority of chat. The person who called the swatting got like no reaction. It feels like it's just some person be like "oh yea this gon be funny everyone gonna be 'omg that's crazy' ", then everyone be like 🥱
I mean can you blame people??? It goes from a rare event to redundant it's reduced to underwhelming everyday occurrence. Kinda like an over used joke except this one can actually kill someone.
Honestly dude I was terrified for you when you said coots got out... my cat got out a year ago when there was a crack in the door with no one home. We looked for weeks day and night, set up trail cams, put out traps crawled under everything that was there to be crawled under and still didnt find her. Didnt think I would ever get that attached to an animal but that was a devastating loss to me. Glad you only lost time and not your life or your cat.
Something similar happened with my cat Phoenix. But *5 months later* I unexpectedly heard meowing coming from the bushes in the backyard through an open window. Went outside to check, and lo and behold Phoenix was back and totally fine. It was wild. I’m shocked he was still alive tbh. We have a bald eagle family that has their nest in our backyard, and they’ve eaten many pets in the neighborhood. We are near a forest/nature preserve so coyotes are also a big problem for local pets. I was devastated because I was convinced he was gone for good. Sorry to hear about your cat. Hopefully she just found a new home and is doing totally fine.
@@princessariamine went missing for a month. Fell out of window when roommates' dog knocked out screen. I searched everywhere. Shelters, posted online, signs in neighborhood, went door to door nothing. Then one night I came home and it was pouring rain. Something told me to check by the dumpsters because if animal needed place to get out of rain that would be place to hide. I got out of car. Went by dumpster calling for her. Nothing. I turned around to go back to car and heard a meow. She came running to me and was such a mess. Fur all dirty and matted. I brought her in cleaned her up took her to vet. Good as mew.
I was afraid for a moment when you said Coots got out. Glad to hear the situation ended well and Coots didn’t get far, and sorry to hear about your attic (I hope it’s enough money to get it fixed up).
@@eyeclipper True, but it never hurts to have some extra money. I was definitely worried about Coots though; a high school friend of mine had a Boston Terrier that got out. She was looking for him for nearly a week before the poor puppy was found after getting hit by a train. My dog also has a habit of running off when we’re not looking, so we keep him on leash at all times outside the house, except when we’re at the dog park; it’s a terrible feeling when you don’t know where your fur baby is.
Nah cops have a couple months of training. Mind you, going through some weeks of training for a job that requires an immense amount of knowledge and patience is kinda crazy low, but no let's not increase the training let's remove police 💀
Hey ludwig! You’re 100% not going to see this but I am a 911 dispatcher (for an area MUCH MUCH smaller than LA) but I would recommend you maybe see about calling a nonemergency number for the area. You could likely speak with a dispatcher directly about this, just explain what has been happening and you could probably request that they put your number in with the address file. This way if they get any calls at that address something may flag before they even send any officers out. This also prevents you from having to deal with the middle man (aka the police). Once again I have absolutely no clue how a place such as LAs 911 dispatching works but just a thought.
"You might as well while your here do something effective with your time, make an imprint, be a positive impact, change the lives of those around you." We only have so much time and we might as well make it better for others around you and for those to come after you. Thanks for the inspiration lud
And technically it is at the very least assault, and at the worst attempted murder. Not to mention full on fraud, since it is bald face lie! Like it breaks several laws it should be hunted down and properly processed.
Man my blood ran cold when I saw the cops and the stream ended, it was fucking scary. Appreciate you coming back and talking about it, and posting this vid. Wish you the best Lud
Reminds me of how when some babies discover their hands they flail them around wildly in front of their face. It's the same part of the brain that likes seeing a big sheet of ice break on the ground. These first two examples of "oh I do this and this happens" are harmless. Swatting is not harmless
I get luds point, but him saying “it’s only 55 minutes” as opposed to the truth which is that there is a risk to his life and waste of hundreds to thousands of dollars. Ice Poseidon used to challenge his viewers and it’s part of the many reasons he was removed from twitch. Lud has been traditionally good about not talking about it, but he talked recently about the ishowspeed swatting and suddenly he gets fully swatted live a few weeks later. It’s unfortunately a dangerous thing to talk about
Cops are freaking garbage and the dispatcher is stupid because they couldn't tell the caller was full of shit. How did the idiot get his address anyway I hope they catch him and make an example of him 75 years in prison i dont care if he's only 12 years old either
@@absolutelyfailz4480 nah yeah its 100% discouragement. if he showed that he was legitimately affected it would send a message to the swatter that they won/got what they wanted. this was the right move showing just how insignificant the ppl who do these things are
@@sedmidivka well the alternative is the shit is real and literally everyone in the house dies, this shit happens to European streamers too, and there isn't really a way to prevent it.
@@sedmidivka someone will call in something absolutely outrageous, like hes killed 3 has 3 hostages and will kill more blah blah. it makes the police mobilize in force immediately and due to "anonymous" tip lines, basically untraceable calls. CPS is the same way. you can call CPS on anyone for anything and nothing, and CPS has to go to that house and pick everything apart looking for abuse.
The police that show up are generally missing a lot of info and show up with so much adrenaline with stuff like this, which is usually because the dispatcher can only go off of what the caller tells them
Yeah that seems like a massive problem. Surely they have databases and need to locate the address through a program anyways. All they need is a note that this person gets swatted to pop up. And “showing up with adrenaline” is poor training. That leads to mistakes
@@ViennaDarlingvd yeah a lot of police are terribly trained, but I don't know if they will have a system for false swatting until more tech savvy people are in the field.
@@dr_phils_ranch_9751 so its police fault? they have to take it seriosly every call even if its streamers adress lol? what if call its real and now police are thinking "no its fake again look its on streamers adress" what kinda logic is that.
I'm so happy that Coots is all fine! I remember when my cat run out of the house while we were moving in furniture and we couldn't find her for a week. Finally my mom found her in some random basement in another block, thin, terrified and dehydrated.
@@otherorange1876 She was calling her and she heard a weak meow in an another building's basement so she asked someone there to let her check. The cat actually ended up being pregnant but her single baby was born with severe breathing issues, so we had to put the baby down unfortunately.
“According to WGRZ, if someone is hurt or killed because of swatting there are laws in place to bring those people to justice. People who make these fake 911 calls can be charged with manslaughter and, in New York State, that person could be charged with murder. This is due to a state law that refers to reckless actions and depraved indifference to human life.” And yet despite this, they still do it.
It's like criminals have no regard for laws. EDIT: I re-read this and thought I may come across as being snarky. I didn't mean to be towards you, but towards governments and police forces. They say that "policy and procedures" are in place to stop this from happening, but they refuse to accept that people will keep on doing this without fear of repercussion. If they are truly against this happening, then they should treat every call as important as manslaughter rather than only chase it up if someone gets hurt.
Hurt or killed is all thats taken into consideration sadly. Property damage, emotional damage/distress, and a waste of police force money (which honestly doesnt matter as they are over funded as fuck and have monthly quotas of tickets to give lmao) are not mentioned. Not to say harm or murder arent legitimate concerns as well, but when only the worst case scenario is being accounted for, a LOT flies under the radar. (Sorry for late comment just RU-vid auto play sending me here and my impulsiveness fueling the comment lmao)
When Ludwig got told be the police to "get a different job", best comeback after they kept not sending anything to his phone would be: "Maybe you should too".
Insane how normalized its become. People have died, and you can do actual jail time which could pretty much ruin your life. Won't stop until the mandatory minimums are increased and enforced. A $100k fine and 5 years in prison would get people's attention.
@@alekhinesgun9997 I wish that was the case. It's just a complaint and a statement to whoever considers doing it, but it's just one comment out of thousands of others. :(
People who does these things to streamers should be charged some jail time or hell actually be rotting in jail, cuz those officers could've been actually needed somewhere important but instead they're given false info just so the one who gave it can have some "entertainment" watching an innocent streamer get raided by the police department
@@dustyfox6511 not american so idk, but i did read that the telecom companies have the info. idk how hard it would be to get that info, but since false swatting is prolly a crime im guessing they have solid grounds to ask for the caller info
This is fucking awful and I'm so sorry that this continues to happen. Finding and prosecuting those who do this should be more of a priority. That being said, I think it's hilarious that the cop fell through the ceiling, would've paid to watch that. Hopefully you guys get it repaired soon though.
@@gu244 Ludwig tried so hard to keep it low key. ...pity a drama kitten ruined that for him...😸 She really appreciates him coming back on to assure and comfort her that he is alive and well. That makes her feel safe, and in absolutely no danger of any Juliet type shenanigans. Really if Romeo had been this considerate and communicative in Shakespeare's time that tragic ending would have been completely avoided. Looks like someone paid attention in English class. 😸
Gladly QT wasn't there with swift and ders, considering how she said recently that she is traumatized and has ptsd from previous one that was it the middle of the night
Man.............there's gotta be something that can be done about these. Every time I'm reminded of that Wichita incident where that man died and his niece who witnessed the whole thing killed herself a year later.
The niece's boyfriend killed himself too after her death. Basically three deaths from swatting. The brother lost a father figure and his own sister, he said he was close to killing himself too.
I’m not going to take a political stance in this chat, but that was a really strong statement to just slide in there regardless of your political stance.
I saw this live , it was honestly so scary. Everyone in chat wondering if you and your roommates we’re okay. This is sick and I’m sorry that this continues to happen to streamers .
@@Lumbago_47 it's a common practice for viewers to call the authorities and send a swat team to a streamers' house because it's "funny". It's messed up.
You’d think people would learn after the case where someone called and swatted a streamer and they were killed. They sent the one who called to jail. I need the police to take this stuff seriously and find people who think its okay to do this
Would love if the dumbasses who fell for those calls got persecuted too while they're at it, because at this rate swatting is about as good as attempted murder
in my experience they literally just shoot every dog over 40 pounds even if it’s just sitting there cuz it could be a “threat.” even if no crime is being committed. even if they don’t find any illegal substances. the most you’ll get is a computer generated apology letter for it
This is ABSOLUTELY disgusting and unforgivable. This is traumatizing and I cannot imagine how violated the whole house has to feel. This HAS to be criminalized. People DIE from shit like this.
Nobody in my family is any type of streamer or anything, but a few months ago in the middle of the night my house was swatted by some guy that decided to pull a silly little prank on my brother, who he met on the app wizz. So be careful guys, be careful what information you give out, what apps you're using, who you're talking to in the internet etc bc it can literally happen to anyone, and it's horrifying.
