It’s fair to say that if you have an Xmaxx and want a stock motor performance with a better built motor, this is the combo. I personally though thing the 5690 is ideal for the Xmaxx/xrt. Mild power boost so the diffs aren’t getting shredded, but still noticeably better than stock.
I have to disagree. I think you're going to get way above stock performance with this combo. The car I was testing this in weighs about 50% more than an X-Max and with the system has better performance than the stock X-Max. The original Max 6 gives you better performance than the stock system. This is significantly more powerful than the original Max 6.
a very good overview mate.... i like it.... my only concern is the bluetooth only programing. The reviews on the google play store are not good, (allot of connectivity issues with newer android devices) it was the reason i decided not to get the OTA for the Max 8 G2.
@@DoRC I don’t plan on running 8s too often unless it’s on beach runs or dirt drags. General bashing 6s is plenty. I wanted the best for it w/o wanting at any given moment and at a price way less than the Castle combo I started to get. 1520-1650kv motor.
I will replace all my esc with built in blue tooth if i could. that seems awsome. i have never had an issue with blue tooth module myself except hooking it into port
That's cool. I've had a few problems myself but for the most part it's been okay. Anything that's 100% reliant on an app just makes me nervous. What if the app stops working with some phone update or hobbywing decides to stop supporting that version two years from now or something like that. It would just be nice to have some sort of backup method to program the ESC.
@@DoRC we all have days like those, but glad you were still able to get some running video. I ordered the 5690 combo, but not sure what I’ll put it in just yet.
@@dgitalchaos 5690 is a really good motor. That being said I really was surprised with how well the little 4990 handled that truck. I was not expecting almost 50 miles an hour out of it
@dgitalchaos That combo was tailor made for the XMaxx, man. My XMaxx has the g1 5687 Max5 combo, and it's pretty great. I'm considering putting the g2 version in it, but I'll only pull the trigger when I have something to put the existing combo into.
It's really good to hear. I've had mostly okay results with the external module but not 100% and that makes me a little nervous when it's literally the only option. Personally I would have been more comfortable if they had left the programming port.
Love your vids !!!! What gearing were you using . I have the g2 combo but with the 1250kv going in a 8s Kraton what a good bashing gearing would be good ? Thanks brother keep it going with those great vids .
I think I was using 16/35 with this but I don't exactly remember as the gear broke and I ended up tossing it. I don't actually have a ton of experience with gearing on these so it might be better to ask in one of the Arrma Facebook groups for gearing suggestions.
Surprised no fan, i got a dual fan for mine it does get hot free standing unloaded during brief test. The programing is a little lame not many options.
My dude please don’t say that’s a good solder. You need to fill the cup and rest the wire in a bed of solder, completely filling the connector brass. Otherwise love it! Can’t wait for a max 6g2!
Going to have to disagree with you there. Any solder that isn't directly attaching the wire to the connector is just excess solder. As long as the strands of the wire are completely embedded in the solder and that solder is completely attached to the connector it's a good connection. I've been doing this for many many years and have never had a problem with any of my solder connections.
@@DoRC to each their own! Amperage is limited by the thickness of the wire. Without proper solder the amperage level decreases, especially continuous. Also need to tin completely around the wires, not just the top before soldering them. If you haven’t had any fail you don’t push the rigs. My 2 cents
@@brokenmanmx The wires were tinned from the factory. I was just mixing a little bit of leaded solder in with the solder that was already there to make it flow better. I push my stuff hard. As long as the wire is fully penetrated with solder and the connection around It makes full contact with that solder around the connector you're good. Putting a bunch of excess solder in there isn't going to hurt but it also really doesn't do much.
@vitodambra72 Yeah people think that the only way to get a good connection is get every possible drop of solder you can in the connector but especially with these QS8s where the connector is so much larger than the wire It's really just not necessary.
It’s odd how the quick run series uses laminations on the rotors but the new max series is kevlar wrapped. Just wondering if you know why they chose to give the fancy rotor to the budget series and not the max g2?
Really not sure what caused them to do that. It's possible that whatever ODM there getting motors from just makes them that way but it's also possible that the steel encasement around the magnets reduces magnetic flux a little which would cause the motors to be slightly weaker and they want the G2 motors to be as strong as possible. That's really just a guess though.
The 6s drivetrain isn't particularly week and The Big Rock has the EXB differentials but This combo has an awful lot of power. Honestly I would consider putting a G1 Max 6 combo in. It's still going to be ridiculous amount of power but not quite as much as the G2. The G2 Max 6 has the same output power as the G1 Max 5. That's a lot for a stock 6s drivetrain
I think on 4S you struggle to get the gearing right for the KV of the motor. 6S should be okay though you might end up having to upgrade something if it breaks. I definitely would not do 8s without significant upgrades.
Sad about the motor shaft, I might get one of these Max 6 G2\4990 1,650KV combos for my future Limitless V2 or XO-1 i hear you about the Bluetooth only programming i've never used Bluetooth to program an ESC before so this will be a first when i get mine. Hobbywing is definitely killing it with these new G2 systems Castle better watch out.
Yeah I'm bummed about the shaft too. Especially since it's completely my fault. The gear was damaged to begin with and was giving me every warning sign that it was unhappy. It was the only gear I had though for the task And I thought I could get away with it. I was wrong.
It depends on what your goals are. If you are just planning on having some fun and doing some reasonably casual speedruns then this will be plenty. If you're trying to go all out and break records the XLX2 systems from Castle seem to be the way to go
Overkill yes. Good? I'm not sure. It might be a little too much. The G1 Max 6 combo is already way overkill and the G2 is significantly stronger. Honestly I'd recommend finding a good deal on a G1 system and using that instead.
@DoRC i just bought the 1650KV max6 g2 combo for my xmaxx? did i mess up and should return and get the bigger moter or will i be ok? info on this is hard to find. wish i would have seen this befor i made my purchase. thanks lovin the videos
No I think it will be okay. It has the same size shaft as the stock motor. Mine broke because my gears were junk. I knew they were junk and I chose to ignore it so I could get the video out.
@@DoRC thanks for responding.. The 5mm shaft is why i chose the 4990 so i can still use all of my mod1 pinions. They are all tekno RC mod1 pinons with a m5 set screw. If anyone hasn't tried them yet for the xmaxx they actually stay on the shaft of the stock motor. again thanks for replying so fast appreciate it!
Hey I love you’re videos! I hoop you see this I’m wondering if the max5 g2 or the max 6g2 for the 5690 motor is there a better choice between the too of them? Thanks in advance!
@uuldriks1 I think it depends on what your goals are. The max 6G2 is basically the same power as the original Max 5G1 so it's plenty powerful enough with the 5690 but If you want maximum power the Max 5 G2 will definitely give you that.
Really not good this move into Bluetooth programming..too much tech ,all that sensored stuff takes away the purity of bashing.Middle off nowhere , RC,controller and less worry.✌️
Yeah I definitely don't blame the motor for that one. The gear was giving me every sign that it was unhappy. Screaming like a banshee and getting very hot. I just chose to ignore it and paid the price. Thanks for watching!
I'm thinking about pairing the Max 6 G2 with hobbywings 4278 G2 motor mainly for low temps both motor and ESC have same size bullets and as far as I'm a ware the same sensor wire
Great review! We put this in our 6s Kraton (aka Krator) and it is amazing! No issues with the bluetooth. It connects every time to my Samsung android phone. It is bigger than the stock motor and esc, but it just fits. I was also worried about fitting a heat sink and fans on the motor, but so far the motor seems to run pretty cool without! Hobbywing must have some magical wizardry going on in there! This is a great system so far. We need to get more packs through it, but it is very impressive!
Nice! Really good temps as well. I have used the max8 linebup with really good success. FYI they do make an adapter cable so you can run any sensored motor with the ESC.
Yeah and they actually have an adapter that I'm not sure if it's available quite yet that will allow you to run there sensored motor with any standard sensored ESC. Nice of them to do that! Thanks for watching :-)
That's going to be an insane amount of power. The G1 Max 6 is too much power I can't imagine the G2 in something like that. It'll definitely run cool though!
@@kaiarneberg9203 That is something I've noticed with some of these G2 ESCs. I don't know what it is but you're not the first person that's reported that. It hasn't been consistent enough for me to be actually be able to pin it down to anything but there's definitely something weird about them.
@kaiarneberg9203 Yeah I think it's the ESC itself. I had one of mine do it and one Max 10 G2 do it. Problem is none of the other ones I've had have done it. I think there's something in that you are fees that resets when they take a heavy shock.
@wallacengineering8096 It's completely my fault. I could hear that the gear was not happy, it was a previously damaged gear and The gear was also getting really hot. I should have stopped but it was the only appropriate gear I had at the time.
@@victorevan7893 ouch. The X-Max does have a lot of flex in the chassis so the gears can bang into each other pretty hard too depending on what kind of mount you're running and what gears you have. What mount did you have?
@DoRC yes that is what when I multiplicate the kv with the 8s voltage but I do not know why the maker does not mention it anywhere! Neither that mention the highest torque value at a specified rpm so one could know how much he need to turn the motor to get the best performance from the motor without over revving it, that could also damage the motor!
Yes but I sent them couple of emails because I wish to know which is the optimum rpm because they stated that it the new esc and motor are up to 20% stronger from the previous version, so I think that they had made some tests to calculate the outcome and difference so I would like to know if it is for example at 40,000rpm or higher!
Yeah I think removing the ability to use a regular programmer was a silly thing to do. I can't imagine it really saved them any money and giving people options for programming is a good thing. I have personally experienced issues with their Bluetooth programmer in the past and given that there are a million different varieties of devices out there I'm sure other people will too.
Could I use the Max6 G2 or Max8 G2 paired with the EZRUN 4278 SD (2250KV) motor on a 1/10 car for speedruns and maybe somewhat bashing (I mean drift attempts or something)?
Sure. The motor will only draw as much current as it is capable of regardless of how large of an ESC you put behind it. That being said you need to make sure that you take care not to exceed the maximum RPM of the motor by putting to higher voltage to it as that could physically blow it apart. The Max 5 G2 also has 8 mm terminals on it for the motor so you would have to swap out the stock 6.5 mm terminals on the 4278 if you're going to use that. I'm not sure how much advantage you would get out of them on such a small motor though cuz again it's the motor that determines the ultimate power output and once you reach that limit on the motor you're not going to get anything out of a larger ESC unless of course you're going higher voltage which again runs into that potential physical RPM limit though.
@@DoRC I want to go fast haha. So in a 1/10 scale car, that's why I'm thinking using a big motor and ESC comparatively would help me get to high top speeds. I would like to use 6S lipo power, btw.
@RiverTheNerd I would consider starting with a Max 8 G2 combo and going from there. Ultimately even with that you're probably going to end up traction limited before you end up power limited so that might be a good starting point.
@@DoRC alright, thank you. I've been trying to keep the price as low as I can with good performance, and the Max6 G2 was the same price, so I was like "eh maybe I'll go for it." I haven't bought anything yet as this hobby is becoming more expensive the more I research.
I disagree. When a gear breaks the teeth can get jammed between the two gears and it puts a ton of force on the shaft. I really don't blame the shaft for this. It's pretty much completely my fault. The gear sounded terrible and was getting really hot. I should have known it was going to fail.
@user-ig1tt1jq9n the gear was damaged previously and I had ground the damaged parts of the teeth off that I could see but that doesn't mean they weren't still damaged. The gear was also making terrible noises and getting very hot Even though it was meshed properly. It's one of the pitfalls of making videos. My drive to release the video tends to make me ignore things like that. It was the only gear I had that was appropriate so it was the gear I was using.
That motor owed him nothing. Everyone I know with a 8s exb runs motors with 8mm shafts. That's a 30 plus pound truck. If that gear broke and jammed while tumbling that 5mm shaft absolutely should break.
