Good review. I started using Arccos this year, I have 21 rounds in so I’ve got some experience and I’ll add my 2 cents: - it will not register putts if you do a quick tap in. I’ve found that for short tap ins to register you need to line up like a regular putt so the sensor (microphone) can hear the putt. Otherwise just know you’ll need to click the + button to add a putt manually. - even in a fairway bunker it will assume you can take a normal swing and hit it flush so it may tell you to hit a fairway wood. You need to know if you’re capable of making that shot. - I use my laser range finder to set the pin location. That helps with the shot accuracy and also gives you more accurate numbers with how close your chips are and first put length. - the adjustments for conditions, especially wind has been a big help. Knowing that a 150 yard shot is playing like 135 has been eye opening.
I understood the Arccos "Smart Distance" was the distance you hit the club 70% of the time, not the average of all shots you hit with each club. I never adjust the App while I am playing, except perhaps checking that it picked up a short putt. The post game data has helped me improve by identifying my weak areas, hence where I need to practice. I like that it can compare your stats to a player of your own handicap.
70% of the time is probably a better stat. Most of us aren't professionals, we don't always flush our shots. So there might be bigger differences between shots giving a pretty flawed average.
Been using this system for 3 months and I love it. Wasn't thrilled with the screw caps, so I called them and they upgraded me to the grips no charge. The link is way better and highly recommended. In 3 months and 28 rounds, I have reduced my handicap from 10.1 to 6.3.
@@LetsPlayThru the data is amazing and the game improvement suggestions help you spend your practice time efficiently. Once you get 10-15 rounds you lose all of those bad shot outliers. Since you can't use it on the range, using all your clubs in your bag in the beginning really helps to level out your club distance data.
I will say, as a guy who works in golf course maintenance, you are the exception to the rule, making sure the guys saw you…most folks just hit into us without saying anything and then give us disgusted looks when they hit a bad shot. Have to keep your head on a swivel. Good video, thinking of trying them but not sure yet, not sure I want to have to edit app during the round etc…
Great review Gabe! I’ve been using Arccos for about 5 years now! I’ve never used the caddie function! I’ll have to try it. Glad you did a dive on it. A couple of additions. I still bring my range finder, which I use to mark the pin more accurately, but honestly, ams should just be aiming for the center of the green, or back of the green anyway. Second, I use an Apple Watch which can be used in place of the sensor on your belt. It’ll track your clubs. And, when you get to the green, you can just walk up to the flag and it’ll prompt you to mark the flag location, so it will be very accurate. But, in the alternative, I will have my phone on my push cart, and as long as you have your cart within a club length or two from you, it’ll pick up the shot, so you don’t need the belt sensor if you don’t want to pay the extra $$$. The best part of the app is all the post-round data you get. AND, before you play a round, you can hit the history button and it’ll overlay every round you’ve played on that hole (or maybe just the last 5) so you can see what strategy is the best. My ONLY nit picks on it…if you are putting from off the green, it’s technically a chip, not a putt. But, there is no way to indicate you’ve used a putter for a chip…bummer. And, it’s now a yearly subscription…I have both the grips and the screw ins…the grips with the built in sensors I find better for use, but I tend to swap clubs, grips, shafts a lot, so the screw ins are better for fiddlers like myself. My screw ins are 4 years old now and still working, so the battery life is long. For the ones built into the grips, you can change the batteries on them…I found that you can pry the sensor out and underneath is a standard CR battery…can’t remember if it’s a 2632…something like that…
Good job on the review. Having more data is never a bad thing, but I would be concerned with averages. Let’s say you hit your 6 iron 180 yards 5 times in a row, but you punch out with a 6 iron 100 yards, well that would adversely affect the average yardages. So the caddie would recommend your 6 iron be 150 yards or so. You listen to the caddie and use your 6 iron and hit a good shot and would blow that yardage away. To have the system relevant, I think it would require significant adjustments after every round. For some people, that may be fine, but likely too much work for me. Good job on the review Gabe.
I have the Arccos system and I can tell you it takes some time to figure out those things. I play a lot of bump and run chips with my 6 and 8 irons and once you’ve got enough shots into the system it automatically learns what your real shot is and doesn’t count the outliers.
Great review as always. I’ve been using ARCCOS for a few weeks now and I found it really helpful. It definitely help you focus on your practice strategy at the range, which mainly has helped me improved my scores. As you mentioned, I found that some of the clubs averages are skewed sometimes. I guess if you use a club to “punch” balls out of trouble, etc that will change the average distance for let’s say a 3 hybrid. I’ve also found that if there is a lot of background noise (for instance, if the maintenance crew is cutting grass) the system may not record the shot. Also, it is important to mention that the system will only record the last shot you made from a location. If you hit twice (maybe you went OB) the system will only record the second shot. You will need to edit and add the penalty manually. Thanks for the review.
3 years in. Just replaced two dead sensors. Great data. One complaint, the clip on your belt LINK can be a pain when getting in and out of a a golf cart. Falling off and getting lost=😢$$$! I drilled a small hole in the CLIP portion, added a casino curly lanyard. Works great. It’s proven several times🎉
I’ve been playing with the system this summer and love it so far. I have had to override several club suggestions, but for the first time in my life, I have data on my clubs which gives me confidence when I’m about to hit. Good review!
I am on my third round with Arccos. I’m trying to use it with my series 6 GPS Apple Watch instead of my iPhone. Have the screw in sensors. First the green band and the red colored Winn DriTac grip caps make my clubs look like a Christmas tree. Apple Watch not working with iPhone app, got an undated course. 45 day trial is not long enough 😂
Great review, Gabe. I feel like I have a really good understanding of the Arccos system and how it performs in real life. You gave a very clear and concise explanation of the pros and cons, and a wrap up that hit on all the important points. Well done.
The rough is a tough one because you might have a bad lie but it may come out an absolute flier. It would be cool if they had an option to select some usual options like: flier, plugged, etc. Then it could have one more layer of automation and just take direct info from the user. Just got this for my dad though, time to see how he likes it next year.
@@LetsPlayThru I just watched Bryson Dechambeau's video on chipping and it doesn't take much to know that you'll have a lot of grass between club and ball or a little. I'm sure the super nerds could go out with a robot or even just ask your players and get some nice approximations! But I think he's going to love the interface more than GolfPad and the caddie will be there for him when I can't. I also think it'll tear down any preconceived ideals about your own game. Like when you "swear" you hit X club X distance and the app is saying "look, you've hit it no where near that distance the last 8 times. Take X club" 🤣
Great piece of kit and the sensors come with 2 year warranty and they have a great customer service. I have had a few sensors which have failed and they have sent me replacement immediately.
Appreciate the review. My new Cobra LTDX 3 Wood and King Stingray putter came with the Arccos sensors and I was able to get the Cobra completion kit for free through the Arccos app for the rest of my clubs. Looking forward to playing my first round with them now that I better know what to expect. First time watching one of your videos. Definitely will check out more.
Another great video. Didn't think I wanted anything like this, but now I'm definitely having second thoughts. Any follow-up videos on if it's still tracking and getting to know your game would be great! Or even comments if you don't want to do another video on it. Thanks!
Thanks for this great review Gabe. I've been using the Arccos driver sensor for about five years, and I'm with you, using the phone the sensor is a pain - for me it's a nuisance in my pocket, and doesn't always register my swing. With Ping, and Cobra incorporating the Arrcos sensors this grips as an option, I'm curious how that works when it's time to change grips, and the player wants grips not made for Arrcos sensors.
I have these on my new Pings but have not yet activated them. I can just feel the pressure of those both around me and behind on the golf course while Im punching in the data. Multiply that by a 4 ball if we all had them and its just too much stress! great video though.
I just came upon your channel and really enjoy your content and videos. It's nice to have reviews from a golfer that hits the ball like most of all of the people on here looking for advice and clubs. (i.e. 5 to 10ish handicappers). It is appreciated and keep up the great work!
Good review Gabe. But honestly the real power of the Arccos system is looking at the data after a round and learning what you’re doing well and where you can improve. The Caddie is nice but not the real draw to the system IMO.
I was thinking about getting the newest sensors a while back but decided to get a rangefinder instead. I've heard from more than a few people that when it works it's great, but it would probably be better to let the technology get a bit better. I was so excited about it, and I'm sure the vast majority of the time it's accurate and useful. Another great review, Gabe.
I’ve been using them for over 5 years now and they are great. I’ve had a few missed shots every once in a while, but they are very easy to put in either at the moment, or after the round. Otherwise, I’ve had no issues.
Nice review, Gabe. And nice shot under pressure there. Lol. With the exception of your good score, that’s quite typical of how my Arccos Caddie system performs. I often don’t use the club recommendations though, because my distances are weird from being so inconsistent. For me, the Caddie should just show a 🤷♂️😂. But it is definitely a great product. 👊
Gabe...first off Happy Fourth of July!!! I actually own the Gen 1 Arrcos. I didn't enjoy it cause I found it very inaccurate and cumbersome. Possible that the Gen 3 is better but I am unwilling to put out $300 on a possibility. I actually use the TM myroundpro with my Galaxy Watch 3. Very convenient and easy to use. I have found it to be accurate to within 3 yards. Which at my game level is perfect for me
This is a great video. It's difficult to find lengthy, educational videos on the system for some reason, especially by the company itself I've use this so far with two rounds I am brand new at golfing may be eight months, and it is measuring most of my clubs, pretty accurately as far as yardage, but my 54° wedge for whatever reason it is marking the club extremely wrong and I don't know if it's because of the way I might be carrying the club around when I take it out of my bag if that impacts anything but if anybody has any suggestions, I would love to hear it because I've tried to call the company cannot get through and I've emailed them with no response for the price of this gadget. I would hope that Customer Service was much better sadly.
One of the best videos I have ever seen regarding arccos I have been so frustrated with mine and sometimes it doesn’t register. But your demeanor on just editing the shot and adding it or editing your shot…and how you split the screen to show your work was a lot of work for you. Thank you so much I think I will continue to use it but it is annoying using the phone in my pocket instead of using the arccos clip you have. Thanks again for your help. One question where’s the MGI buggy? Or were you using it?
I am looking at this and the Shot Scope V3. I wish Arccos had gone with a watch versus the link device. I like being able to just look at my wrist versus having to carry my phone. Although the phone does at least show you your score which you do not get with the V3. Well at least I think it shows your score as you progress through the round...not sure?Good demo of the features.
I agree, on wrist is very easy. As you said though, there's def more screen real estate on the phone which makes some operations a bit easier. I guess it's 6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other sort of thing.
Bought these and the Link last week. Can't wait to build up some data and get those Strokes Gained details. Will still be using the Bushnell for pin distances tho
It takes 5 rounds before the caddie option is activated, based on my info it seems like the average now 7 rounds in for me are extremely accurate. One thing is it doesn't know land versus total distance. Not that it matters for most average golfers.
@@tweedl347 np! I have arccos and honestly I came back after a long break and it helped me concentrate on the areas of my game before the next round. So happy to share the knowledge around. Happy golfing!
i have these on the way and wondering how they know what distance you hit each club or if you manually enter what yardage you hit with each club and then it averages it out to give you a number for each club?
I have been using it for a couple months and love the data. Have those issues though where it suggests a 5h to do a pitch shot because I used it to punch out under some trees from 88 yards a couple times and I have not used that club much. Also was a little disappointed I couldn't do a screen recording like your doing while using it, but I guess if you have the link device, you can. And I have had 5 sensors stopped working but they have a two year warranty and you can request replacements for no extra charge. BTW, try the 3w out of the bunker. You might be surprised!
Great video, Gabe! I use Swing U, and I tend to remember every shot so I can easily do the editing after the round. Of course I'm in Florida as well, and I carry four or five gloves in the summertime, which stinks because I hate to use a glove. But in summertime Florida you have to or you won't be able to hang on to a club. Anyway, happy 4th of July and as you always say, if golf was easy it wouldn't be any fun. Truer words I've never been spoken.
Yeah I think I want one just started playing a month ago but I'm addicted to this game like a drug addict on Crack lol 😆 but this is not gonna make me do stupid stuff or hurt anyone else I definitely wanna get one though I think it would improve my game for sure gotta get that caddie
Gabe, after watching both of your Arccos videos as well as multiple others, I see a very mixed bag on the system. Some think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Others think it's far from worth the money. With other options like the Garmin S62 with it's virtual caddie, I'm wondering what's the best option. The S62 is $500 and the Arccos is $310 for the sensors and link plus $99 for the second year subscription. Knowing the sensors will need to be replaced around 2 years after opening, the price point says S62. What is your opinion between the two if someone can only look at one? Thanks.
Great video. I've enjoyed several that you've posted up. Quick question: how did arccos measure the 4 iron punch shot against a normal 4 iron? Did you need to edit the distance out? Thanks.
Hi Gabe, how are you able to always play solo? I’m a beginner and get nervous playing in a group of randoms and would like to be able to go at my own pace
It detects 98% of my shots I'd say. That said, are you putting the phone in your leading pocket? i.e. - left for right handed player or right pocket for left handed player? That may be the culprit if not.
@@LetsPlayThru Yeah i have it in my pocket. Tried many things allready. I am in contact with their support. Monday it didn't move a hole and counted all shot on hole 1. Just got home and it only registered one shot .... hole 1, hole in one with a put :D.
I don't see this being much help honestly. It's kind of nice that it stores your rounds but a regular gps. This a "neat" thing but telling you a 50° from 110 out in the sand is no bueno for me lol. I'm play a flat wedge or a 9 iron lol.
Eh. I sort of don't get it. Shouldn't you know your individual club length already? Seems like, with this, you'll constantly be looking at your phone the whole round. No fun. I play golf to get away from my phone lol.
There is no way on god's green earth I would pay $200 for something and then have $150+ subscription...even with a free year. If I opt out of the subscription, I have a useless $200 toy. I have the first gen of the arccos sensors...I don't recall them having a subscription.
Your positivity and enthusiasm is commendable but this system honestly seems pretty basic at best and I think you`re perhaps being a little to overbearing with it. Fails te register every third shot or so and gives you wrong club advice every fifth shot or so. That`s not very good