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I HATE Mace Windu: Let Me Explain! 

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Mace windu in my opinion is the worst jedi EVER Let me explain!
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@Ichigo_Kurosaki27
@Ichigo_Kurosaki27 4 месяца назад
Or maybe he chose not to fully think about Anakin's thesis on The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
If only anakin had mentioned darth plagueis 😅
@undyne4032
@undyne4032 4 месяца назад
No, we don't want to hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise nor the thesis about the false dichotomy within said tale made by Anakin Skywalker
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 3 месяца назад
@@undyne4032 But, what about the Droid attack on the wookiees?
@user-rz3zx9yc8s
@user-rz3zx9yc8s 3 месяца назад
Anakin should have asked Windu how he knew of the tale years before it happened.
@DevonMcDonald1
@DevonMcDonald1 3 месяца назад
Loovveee this. That parody is the best
@soularprimestudios5930
@soularprimestudios5930 4 месяца назад
Mace is like that dad that just dose not show praise no matter what you do or accomplish...
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
What's bad is I honestly think mace could have trained anakin better than obi-wan. Baser on the sole fact that the council didn't see obiwan fit for jedi knight just yet
@soularprimestudios5930
@soularprimestudios5930 4 месяца назад
@@StarWarsNerd00 I think Anakin would have been even more prepared for Ahsoka if he was trained by Mace.In canon Anakin was cought off guard by Ahsoka coming out of nowhere lol.
@chaseharlee905
@chaseharlee905 4 месяца назад
All great points but… a purple lightsaber is so coool.🗿
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
That is a BFM saber....
@bpwaterguy5635
@bpwaterguy5635 4 месяца назад
You’ve got a point you’ve got a point
@moses9746
@moses9746 4 месяца назад
I admit, I like Mace based on some of character traits. However, I only have reasonable disdain for him for not giving Anakin the approval, encouragement, and support that he needed. But if there's anyone to blame, it would arguably be Yoda. What Yoda passed on to others was definitely passed on to Mace. Mace is merely an extension of Yoda's flawed teachings. But to end on a neutral note, nothing and no one is perfect.
@arcdraconis9579
@arcdraconis9579 4 месяца назад
Before Anakin was discovered Mace was considered the chosen one so he's always got a chip on his shoulder for Anakin showing up. In the recent shows it was shown he got his spot on the council by actively ignoring injustice and side with senate. Total dick he was.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
Was he really considered as the chosen one?
@undyne4032
@undyne4032 4 месяца назад
He thought of himself as chosen one if I remember correctly before Anakin showed up, it also gives even more hipocracy when he tells Dooku, that Jedi are guided by their Council and not by politics or ego.
@animemanXLK
@animemanXLK 4 месяца назад
If I remember right Mace Windu's fighting style is called vapaad. Which is basically supposed to be when a force user can keep the light and dark sides of the force in perfect balance but never falling to the dark side. For one thing it requires the user to enjoy the thrill of battle. The weird bit is the form is so difficult to master that every jedi that has used it barring Mace has fallen to dark side. Which means Mace must have either god tier mastery of the force or the writers give him way more credit than he might actually deserve
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
He gets more credit than he deserves in my opinion, but he does have some dope ass moments like crushing grevious and beating palpatine in their Duel in the office
@BladeEdge86
@BladeEdge86 Месяц назад
Mace Windu invented that lightsaber combat form, which is an impressive accomplishment. There is a strong irony is mr by the book inventing a lightsaber combat form which veers so closely to the dark side though. The theory behind it makes sense, but considering how everyone else who attempted to master it went to the dark side, it perhaps might have needed more fine tuning before being taught to anyone.
@animemanXLK
@animemanXLK Месяц назад
@@BladeEdge86 Dooku claims to have mastered the form and says the key is to fully commit to the dark side. Which again is kind of odd considering he seems to hold the dark side at arms length. He rarely uses his Sith title Darth tyrannus(I mean come on that's an awesome name why you not wanna use it?) and he never shows the sith eyes or grey skin. Unless he was wearing a force glamor like Sidious to disguise his Sith nature
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 Месяц назад
@@animemanXLK both are very interesting takes, I knew deppa fell but didn't know he taught other people about it! As for dooku.....that does seem odd since I agree with you he didn't really seem committed to the darkside, just irritated with how stuff was
@BladeEdge86
@BladeEdge86 Месяц назад
@@animemanXLK To be fair to Dooku he relied heavily on his public persona as leader of the CIS. Using his sith name publicly like that wouldn't have benefitted him or the plan.
@goatcheese4me
@goatcheese4me 4 месяца назад
Thank you Anakin for telling me the Senator is the Sith Lord. Even though you're by far one of the greatest jedi's around, I'm gonna have you sit here while me and these 3 worthless jedis go and try to take a powerful sith lord down. I mean, they can't die on me within the first 5 seconds; they're jedi's.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
Take a seat mace windu
@yesthisislyra
@yesthisislyra 4 месяца назад
Kit Fisto lasted like 6 seconds give him some credit 😭
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
@yesthisislyra In the deleted scene from that fight he was supposed to last like 3 minutes
@Lieutenantprism213
@Lieutenantprism213 9 дней назад
Windu literally said why Anakin should stay at the temple, they didn’t know how powerful palpatine really was, also saying Fisto, Kolar and Tin are worthless is dumb on you’re part also the force scream palpatine used was a main reason they died so early
@ChristianGibbons777
@ChristianGibbons777 4 месяца назад
Oh and he apparently uses and ability called Vapaad to use his own darkside energy into something positive when facing against Dark Side Users while using the Dark Side User’s dark energy against them mid Lightsaber clash. If only Mace taught this to Anakin and Obi Wan but, given his refusal to teach Quinlan Vis given how dangerously close to the Dark Side he was according to Mace. I’d imagine he’d be even less inclined to teach such an ability to Anakin and Oni Wan given Mace’s fear of bringing people to the Dark Side Witt such a technique.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
Yea I've known about vaapad, it's a super awesome feat he has but like you said and someone else commented it was dangerous for other people to learn it. It's also how I think he won against palpatine
@AgentAAARTS
@AgentAAARTS 4 месяца назад
to be fair to the guy, his success rate at accidentally creating Dark Jedi with the technique is 100% at this point. I think there's a point you have to decide to maybe not continue to decimate your own order teaching that lightsaber form. It's a credit to him that he can use it successfully, but he appears to be one in ten thousand, and I doubt Anakin would have been able to cope with it, while Obi-wan might refuse it entirely.
@Lieutenantprism213
@Lieutenantprism213 9 дней назад
Yes Windu didn’t want to teach Vos because of fear of Vos falling to the dark side like Depa and Sora bulq did teaching that to Anakin at his age were Anakins dark side and arrogance were high would be disastrous
@ChristianGibbons777
@ChristianGibbons777 4 месяца назад
0:10 Well to be fair, I kind of agree with him on that stuff. If you’re familiar with Mace Windu’s Shatter Point ability. He can definitely see bigger pictures to an extent; but, given the dogmatic views of the Jedi and his feelings for Dooku, which according to the books Windu could’ve killed to stop the war etc… He would’ve been more formidable. There’s even a What iF Mace Windu senses Anakin’s betrayal via his Shatter Point ability.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
I am not familiar with his shatter point ability, time to do some research!
@soularprimestudios5930
@soularprimestudios5930 4 месяца назад
Tarkin needs a video......Ahsoka literally saved him only for him to just believe Ahsoka bombed the temple when Ahsoka was not even there....
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
Oh, there are plenty of videos coming for this series. Trust me
@soularprimestudios5930
@soularprimestudios5930 4 месяца назад
@@StarWarsNerd00 When Tarkin blew up Lieas planet 😑 that's when the decline of the Empire started arguably because of how brash he was...the destruction of Alderaan made the rebels attack more quickly in response...The rebels spreaded out too making it hard for them all to be destroyed all at once like on Alderaan....Tarkins incompetence had the Empire doomed after that...
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
@soularprimestudios5930 I can buy that cause she told him the rebel base was on dantooine and he blew up aldeeran, as a response since dantooine was too remote and stated that they'll deal with the rebels soon enough
@HamnerdGaming
@HamnerdGaming 4 месяца назад
Baris is a good crook
@trigger0403
@trigger0403 4 месяца назад
He did know palpatine was the sith he just wasn't sure. When anikan told him it just all made sense
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
"If what you told me is true, you'll have gained my trust" sounds an awful lot like "I have no idea what the hell he's getting me into now"🤣
@trigger0403
@trigger0403 4 месяца назад
@StarWarsNerd00 well anikan found out for sure before anyone else the confirmation came from him so 🤷 the thing with mace is he's the only jedi to use a little bit of the dark side that's why he's a lil arrogant. the man was a beast
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
@trigger0403 anakin saved mace from fully falling to the darkside by showing up and betraying him, imagine full darkside mace (I haven't read alot of the books so no spoilers if thats happened)
@trigger0403
@trigger0403 4 месяца назад
@StarWarsNerd00 nah nah he wouldn't of fallen to the dark side as I said he flirts with it quite alot. He would of saved the galaxy 😂😂
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
@trigger0403 only one way to settle this. You, me and a 10 round Duel on the 2005 movie tie in game for Revenge of The Sith 🤣
@dmacus68
@dmacus68 3 месяца назад
Yoda AND Mace are the reason the chosen one went to the dark side damaged as hell They where supposed to be his teachers not obi-wan. Anikan tried to do everything right even proved his loyalty telling them palpatine was the Sith Lord.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 3 месяца назад
Obi wan did the best he could, but Anakin needed a father figure (yes I know in AOTC he says obi is the closest thing he has to a father) but Plo Koon, Kit Fisto Mace and Yoda would have been the best substitute for Qui-Gon Jin
@constantinebodien1887
@constantinebodien1887 2 месяца назад
The best possible father figure and teacher for Anakin would have been Count Dooku.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 2 месяца назад
@@constantinebodien1887 you're on to something there
@BladeEdge86
@BladeEdge86 Месяц назад
@@constantinebodien1887 Dooku would have been the 2nd best master for Anakin, the first being Qui Gon. But, Qui Gon died and Dooku turned to the dark side. Plo Koon also would have been a good choice though.
@carverlabarberaofficial
@carverlabarberaofficial 3 месяца назад
Watching ROTS now, Palpatine was right. The Jedi were dogmatic and did hold the Chosen One back from fulfilling the prophecy. If only The Council listened to Master Jinn and many other Jedi who supported Anakin.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 3 месяца назад
After my first watch of the clone wars I remember saying "I see why and how the order fell now"
@Lieutenantprism213
@Lieutenantprism213 9 дней назад
The thing with fans is that they only watch the shows and movies but don’t go in depth with characters, yes Windu distrusts Anakin because Anakin shows signs of the dark side Windu was also a skeptic of prophecies so yes he doubt Anakin might be the chosen one, he ignites his saber against Jango and Dooku because I’d be foolish to not have your weapon ready plus Jango already proved himself to be dangerous and against Palpatine because he was the Sith, sure he didn’t share info with Ahsoka but that’s because he’s a citizen something even ahsoka called herself in the scene, he had no faith in R2 yes who wouldn’t you barely knew anything about R2, he didn’t deny Dooku a spot on the council Windu wasn’t even on the council, also remeber not giving Anakin the rank of master is a council decision Windu was just the one to say it, also the council didn’t send Qui Gon to fight a Sith and Windu said he doesn’t believe Dooku would kill because he held high respect for Dooku and him igniting his saber against palpatine you gotta remeber the council was already getting suspicious of palpatine Anakin revealing palpatine as a Sith was the nail in the coffin, the actions Windu had always had reason behind them when Anakin told him about palpatine in the novel for ROTS Windu realized at that moment everything they fought for was for nothing and with Windu before hand saying he senses a plot to destroy the Jedi he had to act fast if the Sith finally revealed himself
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 9 дней назад
@Lieutenantprism213 don't go in depth? Homie every time I make one of these I do like 3 days worth of research on the topic lol. You're right about mace not denying the spot to dooku upon rewatch I misinterpreted the scene, mace just made the argument he was following orders. It still doesn't make sense that any of the jedi held the chosen one back in any capacity. As mundi said in the 03 micro series "why do we hold back the chosen one in these times of need" so not everyone on the council was skeptical of anakin, most were but he had his fair share of supporters. As for the rank of master for anakin, why wouldn't the grand master deny anakin? Yoda wasn't off world yet. And mace still tried to take the prophecy of the chosen one into his own hands
@soularprimestudios5930
@soularprimestudios5930 4 месяца назад
He was not fair to Ahsoka at all...
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
No he wasn't. I feel his hatred for anakin projected onto ahsoka
@dmacus68
@dmacus68 3 месяца назад
Made her not even want to be a Jedi anymore.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 3 месяца назад
@@dmacus68 that and th3 hypocrisy of the order
@trepathy1
@trepathy1 2 месяца назад
I never understood what the hype was around Windu. I only know him from the prequel movies. He seemed to have this aura of intensly suppressed anger around him... Maybe it was just RBF. Also, I don't think SL.J was the right casting for that roll. I think playing a calm, stoic space monk is quite a bit to far out of his range.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 2 месяца назад
He had the darkside within in, he developed a form of lightsaber combat called vaapad where he could tap into the darkside and reciprocate it upon another darkside user so that probably explains why he was always angry but in the rots novel anakin and obi wan talk about him and he says maybe mace is jealous because until I came around he was the youngest person on the council
@heisenberg1681
@heisenberg1681 Месяц назад
Also funny that Windu pushes the fact that a Jedi should be emotionless and should suppress emotional attachments When he literally uses the dark side as a way to fight opponents, which by the way, requires one to tap into their emotions deeply Just found that kind of ironic that’s all
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 Месяц назад
@@heisenberg1681 dude.....I never thought about that!
@heisenberg1681
@heisenberg1681 Месяц назад
@@StarWarsNerd00which is why this further leads me to believe that his vapaad ability is in legends and not canon in my opinion What really happened is Palpatine let Windu win in order to manipulate Anakin to the dark side and make it look like the Jedi were evil and are afraid to lose their power. As for the purple saber, Samuel Jackson just wanted a purple saber 😂
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 Месяц назад
@heisenberg1681 dude, I think the same thing! I'm sorry george there's no way palpatine was bested by mace, he definitely threw that duel just to get to anakin more! As for the purple saber.....the back story is hilarious 😂 but I like the idea of certain jedi being within both sides of the force and obtaining a purple crystal
@Lieutenantprism213
@Lieutenantprism213 9 дней назад
Windu doesn’t believe that Jedi should be emotionless the whole point was so the Jedi can control their emotions, Windu doesn’t use the dark side Vaapad isn’t the user using the dark side it brings them so close to the dark side but never touches it
@kiplutu
@kiplutu 3 месяца назад
Mace is such a great build skill, story and physically plus purple 💜 problem is he's just that azz who f's everything up. Hes like the perfect guard dog but you cant have friends over and he eats your house when you're at work. Lol
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 3 месяца назад
Mace does have some credibility , his arrogance gets in the way (darth windu?)
@rifter0x0000
@rifter0x0000 Месяц назад
Mace believes that *he* is the chosen one and Anakin is a false interpretation of the prophecy. If they had listened to Mace, Siddious would be dead, but Anakin saved Siddious from Mace Windu.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 Месяц назад
@rifter0x0000 wouldn't have mace fallen to the darkside after? I mean "I am going to end this once and for all" and that look in his eye screams revenge and vengeance so either way someone's still falling
@technologic21
@technologic21 4 месяца назад
He wasn't a very good Jedi master ('good' in the sense that he wasn't good at being a Jedi, let alone a master). He was not measured or thoughtful, was a brute during the Clone Wars, and was willing to break with the Jedi way by not detaining Sidious and opting to execute him on the spot. It's almost like he had a chip on his shoulder against Anakin, which fueled the young Jedi's animosity towards him, and the Jedi. His padawan, Depa Billaba, believed that the Jedi Order made a crucial error in taking military titles during the Clone Wars, Windu didn't agree with her. Billaba protested to Windu the irony that a noble, peace-loving order like the Jedi were now military leaders in a galaxy-wide conflict. He would have none of it. In short, Windu was a dick. At the battle of Geonosis, he killed Jango in front of his son. Yes, there were Jedi that were bad at being Jedi. Along with several other bad Jedi, (looking at you, Bariss) he contributed to the Order's downfall.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
Yooooo I didn't know that about him and Depa! (I'm in the middle of a clone wars rewatch to see things I missed) that's wild!
@technologic21
@technologic21 4 месяца назад
@@StarWarsNerd00 Yup, and he's a real a** in the comics too!
@Lieutenantprism213
@Lieutenantprism213 9 дней назад
When it comes to Windu wanting to kill palpatine remeber Windu was there to arrest palpatine but guess what palpatine did he attacked Windu and killed 3 of Windus friend in front of him even after defeating palpatine he was still willing to arrest him but palatine yet again attacked Windu so why would Windu try to arrest him a third time Windu wasn’t a dick people believe he is because they like Jedi like Anakin Plo and ahsoka more and whenever they but heads it nature to side with the one you like more
@edwardbloecher4563
@edwardbloecher4563 4 месяца назад
SPOT ON BROTHER!!!!
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
We are Anakin stans here 🤝
@timothyvanhoeck233
@timothyvanhoeck233 3 месяца назад
10:53 You do realize that image could have been in error (miscoloring a lightsaber or two), right? After all, there are 12 Jedi in that circle (13 if you include Anakin), and I'm pretty sure that non-council members wouldn't be allowed in said knighting ceremony with the sole exception of the jedi who was being promoted to knighthood. Sure Mace was an asshole in many respects, but a lot of your arguments seem to be rather nitpicky. And no, just letting Anakin "be Anakin" would NOT have ended well for anyone. In fact, it likely would have resulted in things escalating even faster and worse than they already were.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 3 месяца назад
I have seen the comments about it being an error lolol, and yea most of my points are nitpicking (still working on my style for these videos) even if letting anakin be anakin escalated things mace still didn't have to put him down for 13 years. I'm loving everyone's take on this ! May the force be with you
@tropical_george666
@tropical_george666 4 месяца назад
you forgot ki adi mundi
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
Cone head will be 3rd in this series
@cam_the_movie_man
@cam_the_movie_man Месяц назад
Dude this video was great! I was dying. Mace is kind of a dick of a Jedi
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 Месяц назад
@@cam_the_movie_man HES THE WORST!
@emme12345654321
@emme12345654321 3 месяца назад
Alright he looked at Obie like that because Obie straight up lied Anakin never followed orders and just did what he thought was best which in Maces eyes is failing. I'm not an Anakin supporter but every character is flawed they all agree'd with Mace and let everything that happened happen he was just the one put in the front.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 3 месяца назад
Anakin has never let obi wan down, tho (Haven't read Old Legends books or comics just going off of what I've seen) sure he didn't follow every order if any but do you follow everything by the book?
@emme12345654321
@emme12345654321 3 месяца назад
@StarWarsNerd00 I'm just talking about from the point of view from the Judi. The Judi are strict, no nonsense kinda group if they say do something this way and you do it another they'll be mad even if it works. Anakin might not have disappointed Obie himself, but in maces eyes, he does because he never listened or acted like a jedi. Jedi are supposed to be without emotion and act purely on logic, though even the jedi don't follow their own orders because they're complacent hypocrites, which is fine for realistic characters. I say this because a logical person knows you can't remove all emotions and still consider yourself logical because without emotion, you lose drive like they did, and without emotions, you lack understanding of those you're protecting and those you could save. Aka Anakin, if they just understood where he's coming from and listened, instead of trying to change him and suppress not only his fear of losing a loved one they could of saved his mother and his wife, they could have avoided this problem altogether but they tried to be Emotionless zombies and now they're actually dead.
@masterofdisguise1112
@masterofdisguise1112 12 дней назад
I mean, in the end, he was right, and Anakin turned to the dark side should have never trained him. Anakin murdered children should have never trained him. Anakin stood by and watching an entire planet get blown up, should have never trained him!!!
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 11 дней назад
@masterofdisguise1112 but why? If literally anyone had shown anakin the same respect qui gon did, things would have been so different. Mace just had a chip on his shoulder because before anakin he was the top dog once anakin came and questioned authority is when he got worse towards him
@ChristianGibbons777
@ChristianGibbons777 4 месяца назад
#NewViewer here BTW💙💚♥️🖤😎
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
Hello there, on the last Sunday of the month we have cookies
@gregorytucker6921
@gregorytucker6921 4 месяца назад
I’m going to hear you out before I dislike the vid
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
I prolly went off on some unrelated things 🤣🤣
@trigger0403
@trigger0403 4 месяца назад
😂😂
@Makise3
@Makise3 4 месяца назад
It’s about time someone made a video like this and called Mace Windu out on what he really is. Great job man! I couldn’t agree more. Mace Windu is the absolute worst.
@StarWarsNerd00
@StarWarsNerd00 4 месяца назад
Thanks! He certainly has his moments of greatness (both from the micro series and the 08 clone wars) but overall he's my least favorite jedi and as I stated "the worst"
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