I hate MBT 

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Either ghostrick community member or altergeist fan club member 🤔

one of us, one of us

The Genex gang

I thought the Altergeist fans hated MBT too lol

Witness as true Draco wins yet another MBT

All I know what to do anymore is summon fibrax, it's been so long. I don't know what yugioh is anymore. The other day, I drew Veiler and tried to normal summon it. In Plant format. Everything has become fibrax to me. There are no other monsters, no spells other than tuning. The only trap i know how to activate is conquistador. Occasionally I add back a card with barricadeborg, and I cry a little. I attack for game but wish I was being gamed instead. It's become a joke of sorts, or maybe it's just my life. I can't go anywhere without seeing auroradon combos. I went to feed my dog the other night, but instead of eating she turned into a link 1 and summoned 2 tokens that can't be used for a link summon that turn. I had to put her down. I sit in the corner now counting down the days, the days where we shall see sweet release from this torment, the day when synchro summoning was about 2 monsters having a special bond and creating something beautiful. Those days are long gone. I have seen God, and I have seen the devil, but they are one and the same. I stared into the abyss and screamed, and it screamed back: "summon linkross effect”

@@KyunaCookies spoilers: it didn't

@@LostEndgame oh god I can't wait, no spoil. I'm guessing maybe uh Despia

(Looks at Djinn) "This alone doesn't break Drytron" Proceeds to unban Eva.

@@Supergupo herald build is way better than including djinn anyway

@@youngdoodle yeah, Drytron doesn't really synergizes with Djinn but it's terrible for future proofing

Procedes to unban master peace that ruined all of his tournaments. Way to go.

@@lorenzolombardi3369 dragon ruler lost round one 😂😂😂😂😂😂

A shame, because it used to be better, a thought out list of cards that could come back....now is indeed just 'cause.

@@jonatassilva2605 yeah I will agree, bringing back cards you know are only there for technical reasons rather than playability is pointless for an online tourney

Previous Moron Banlists were more thoughtful because they were made with the idea of actually releasing cards that don't need to be there. Last time MBT said himself that now that he has done that, the goal is just to release as many cards as possible, basically for the sake of it. If you want a more thoughtful Moron Banlist, watch previous videos where he did that. No point making the same video over and over again

@@TheSaicoKiller eh this is a bit silly as the meta changes and cards will interact with them differentky

@@geiseric222 A the point is to be silly B yes but realistically there has been little cards that changed because the cards he originally picked are just bad. There are exceptions like Time Seal, which sucks, might not suck as much since Labrynth is a thing. Surely he could make another more serious one but refer to point A

This, lmao

>Starts with Victory Dragon

ALSO im raging that they banned verte that was my whole joke, makeVerte :(

The question isn't "Is this good?", it's "Did Icarus really go high enough?"

I get the critique of master peace, that is a clearly broken piece he should know from his other mad science experiments

Farfa only knows 6 decks: Evilswarm, Infernity, BA, Ignister, Adamanciptaor and Draco Pals. So it's going to be alittle hard.

@@bl00by_ I have definitely seen him use more

@@bl00by_ I have seen farfa play infernoids and ligthsworn grass

@@saif19845 Have you seen him play them well?

Thats why its called the MASOCHIST banlist after all.

i find causing suffering to be fun :)

*THE PLEASURE OF PAIN*

Farfa is really hufing on that copium implying current YGO is fun even with all these cards banned, especially because most of the overpowered getting banned are a must of in rogue decks.

One man's pleasure is another man's suffering.

@@alexYu-gi-oh he literally put them all to three tho

@@alexYu-gi-oh He put the Exodia pieces to 3, though? They're on the last slide of cards to unlimit

@@TheMatt_SD yeah, he did.

@@pmrobin8 well yeah. What does putting every banned card to 1 even do? You get staples but that really all it is. It'd just be already existing decks running these one of staples and nothing else. When u unban cards to 3 then you introduce more decks that can be played so it's actually entertaining rather than watching normal yugioh with a strong card every now and then.

@@Unknownz000 what does putting every card to 1 do? Uh you get trad format

I think he believes (or chat told him) that this was MBT’s genuine banlist prediction/wishlist rather than a challenge to god to smite him for his hubris

doesn't he usually miss the point?

Is justa joke why hab to be mad?

Too late I'm already seething, boiling, malding and coping even

When the copium needs to huff copium to keep up

I'm still seething with rage. How dare.

@UC3y55kzpWt7Jty6PTP4SriA still a dumb concept

He even calls it "The Masochist Banlist"

Saying that Konami could unban these cards today and it wouldn't change anything implies otherwise.

@@Meanlucario by “it wouldn’t change anything” he meant “the current best decks would remain the best decks,” not that the game would be complete unaffected

@@UniGya He says as True Draco, Syncrons. and the latest tournament says otherwise.

He was obviously referring to extending the handshake for such an amazing match. :)

The card does read "you have infinite normal summons per turn", and can explicitly be used during your opponent's battle phase to normal summon any number of monsters. Are we pretending that special summons aren't good specifically because you can do as many as you want per turn?

​@@dontmisunderstand6041 The problem is that since it's a trap card, the earliest you could use it is during your opponents battle phase, and at that point it's definitely going to get either destroyed or negated.

@@agushernandezquiroga9064 Baiting a negate sounds good enough to make it in a deck to me.

@@dontmisunderstand6041 I mean, if baiting a negate or destruction on a card that can only be activated in the battle phase is good enough, might as well be playing Drowning Mirror Force. Mass, non-targetting, banishing removal for no cost or need to have normal summonable monsters in hand to activate and is searchable with trap trick. But nobody plays it because the opponents battle phase is too late to activate trap cards.

I think i saw you in duel links Reddit

Yeah but his reasoning is still bad

@@fukou_da Yeah, but in practice said cards aren't broken anymore or only broken in pretty specific situations.

@@Machiroable It's still pretty silly to say something like "making Verte is better than activating Fusion Destiny from the hand"

You are a big fucking dumb dumb just as MBT. He is not trying to make a point, he is just an "entertainer" doing "entertaining" things for his stupid audience.

@@fukou_da Which is more likely to happen in a game, you summon 2 monsters? Or you hard draw FD? I'm pretty sure that was his point and not literally that if you have FD in hand already you should make verte instead cause thats better.

The idea is stupid itself since it’s not accurate this format is just for one event a realistic format is many events over many months where innovation happens.

Projection

MBT - Prefers chaos

@@ashikjaman1940 theduellogs: gimmick decks and Akiza memes

Uhm, isn't having more cards available more fun? "Oh but other decks will be broken and stronger" spoken by the people that play some of the topping decks

Farfa cries about everything from the state of us politics to really anything and everything under the sun. His entire channel is false outrage.

Oroboros once again

Yea that's the real flaw with these banlists. Ideally he'd give at least a week or so for people to lab stuff

He knows but the "rage" clickbait is ez content for him.

@@ZelniteMH Imagine you're so desperate for clicks that you have to do something like this, meanwhile most other yugitubers put out quality content.

You wan't to Engage! banned? I can support that.

I think the logic is, Harp at 1 is Harp at 7 for Orcust due to Girsu and Scars. Where as Engage is maybe at 2 on any specific turn. I would love to be able to have Harp Horror back just because the deck really hurts without it, but that might be the logic.

@@Tanka036 i know what you mean but yeah the deck is really crippled still

@@Rastaboulotte not that but want one horror

@@hyperion1644 true, I want to play Orcust as well, gonna buy max rarity and cope/wait for horror back

Yes, he was :)

Doesn't mean he's good at it. There's sovereign citizens who studied law

Didn't Farfa LITERALLY commentate one of these tournaments too?

But the point of the list is not just nerfing powerful archetypes, but we also want to get rid of obnoxious cards. We are 100% sure plant ftk or "solemn cards+ last turn+ barrier statues" lists won't be any near to competitive, but boy if they can be ridiculous to play against. Farfa argument is not so weak and I believe the masochistic tournament while fun it doesn't prove at all if some cards could or couldn't come out from the list safely.

The power of verte is any two monsters do it, in most cases you've already checked for ash before hard activating FD unless your hand is bad and you were gonna do DPE pass or something.

It’s really not, if your opponent saved an Ash for the final play then they already lost lol

But if you ban FD, guess what happens, you can't neither hard draw it, nor use It with verte. But i guess It doesn't matter because verte Is now banned anyway, but still

@@blinktwice296 One month later, guess I was right. Nobody except HERO is playing DPE after Verte got banned and Ash is still the most popular handtrap. Decks are now much more diverse now. Obviously there's still problems but we have Despia, Swordsoul, Flundereeze, Therion PUNK, Dragon Link, etc. as the top decks. Verte was "the problem" of the package.

@@Boristien405 ngl idk what I was on with that comment lol. I feel like I always knew Verte was the problem, but maybe it’s cause I was salty that so many people in the past did hard draw FD against me despise me negating Verte lol

How is that "funny"? I swear mbt's community calls everything funny just because. Like how is it a fun experience for you to go to a tournament just to play against some dumb player who plays last turn or victory dragon and u have to waste 20 minutes on judge calls instead of just playing the game

@@alexYu-gi-oh Because the tournament you're going to is against other MBT viewers (hand-picked by MBT) and the point is to make the most of this banlist and so nobody will play Victory Dragon anyway?

Mass driver is also absolutely awful. We have 3x cannon soldier who is infinitely more searchable and summonable than a continuous spell that isnt part of an archetype. Also as MBT said if you can summon 20 times you can make a billion negates or have already gotten nibiru'd. Pay offs are hardly ever the issue. Game is all about how consistent your engine is and how well it plays through handtraps.

@@livingbeing4517 he said victory dragon is "funny" so im trying to understand where the fun in that card. Please dont try to be a smartass

@@luminous3558 this. Back in Danger! Darkworld FTK that deck would've ran soldier over driver due to how flexible the card is over a continuous spell especially since if you discarded it you just went with plan B of 5000 negates and used the potential extra dark in grave for cards like beginning of the end.

They would in an actual tournament setting and time to do proper testing, but the point is to have a funny draw droll or lose tournament so we don't care about that

You literally have to play Droll at 3 to have any chance of seeing turn 2

@@masterduelzero1795 But then they draw one of their three called by and three crossout anyway so it doesn't matter

@@joshleake3517 You also play 3 if just to guarantee you draw the out.

well unlimit all draw card lead one ppl to play floodgate masterpeace and win the tournament soooo

Play IO turn 1 win the game

So verte can't be ashed but can be hit by 3 other commonly played hand traps Also that's the point, you use verte for when you don't open fd and make something better than verte when you do open it

I guess I'm missing something. How can verte dodge ash?

@@zacharycannaday6075 first off, sending the fusion card to the graveyard is part of verte's cost rather than effect, so you can't ash that. But what about verte's actual effect? Well verde's effect reads "this effect becomes that Spell's effect when that card is activated, also, you cannot special summon..." so verte's effect is "copy the fusion cards effect", which is not something ash can negate, even if she would've been able to negate the copied effect

Exactly. Everyone is on Droll in every one of these tournaments. It is frustrating. It is always "See, FTKs and endless draw power doesn't work. Just draw Droll." Like... hello? lol. Nobody like formats where you either play Droll or lose.

@@orga7777 but the point isn't to make a good format the point is to unban 90 cards

@@Trojanexe-gk8kf That is fine and all, but that isn't what Joseph says in the videos. He honestly thinks it changes nothing in the format.... Except now everyone is forced to main deck Droll and Lock Bird or lose in seconds.

@@orga7777 He doesn’t genuinely think removing all these cards won’t have ANY impact. He’s just trying to prove the point that the banlist should be more lenient by taking it to extrema. And if he’s sorta wishy-washy ab his argument, it weakens it (tho I will admit his rushed arguments for each card and curating which decks can be allowed in the tournament also weakens his argument but really it’s about clickbait and about getting his point across about how stingy the banlist is currently)

Its funny how the winner of the tourney was:.... Infernoble.

The issue with the "See how it goes" approach is that Konami is very inconsistent with their speed at removing problem cards. If they did shift to this experimental phase with the banlist. They'd have to be much more on top of what is becoming a clear problem and dealing with it.

This isn't a banlist prediction or wishlist, it's a specific unbanlist for a "Moron Banlist Tournament" to try to get the most cards off the banlist as possible before the game breaks. This has happened over time and he's inching up more and more cards unbanned.

@@ballom101 Konami is normally pretty quick with rebanning cards if they are really big problems. The only time they take forever to hit problem cards is with stuff like Firewall, Verte, Sky Striker Engage, etc when they are still making money off it and refuse to ban it until its been reprinted.

COH is just a weird unban from Konami. Just put Mind Control to 2 and you have the exact same thing as now but not as strong.

No

It's a series of tournaments over time that are trying to see how many can be unbanned before the game stops being playable

The problem with master peace (or any true draco cards back at 3, really) is that the card makes ppl play floodgate.dek, it's not only about the master peace. True draco can have all their stuffs back at 3 except master peace and the deck will still be a pain in the ass

@@dhanyl2725 Isn't this the same argument people have against Guru, Altergeist and Eldlich players?

Let's see,unaffected by card effects,pops a card every turn,and us backed up by shit like monarchs erupt. And the ONLY real out is a kaiju. Yea okay boss you keep thinking this cards somehow worse than the shit you listed.

@@dhanyl2725 and yet true draco deck need tons generic draw engine to make it work and tcg banlist already killed tons generic draw not to mention the Advanture engine gonna kill those Skill drain/monarch erupt anyway, so idk man imo masterpeace would mid at the best in current tcg format warping meta? sure on early few week before ppl realize how outdated true draco engine but i'm still willing to proven wrong tho

@@KingLIFEDRAIN despia literally just summons Guardian Chimera and smacks over it.

or Block Dragon

Not that easy

Yeah with all the going second cards that exist currently, I agree the solution isn’t always a nuclear banlist. We did need certain cards to go this format, just for the health of the game though.

Wait, a reasonable comment? On a Farfa video? Did I enter an alternate universe somehow?

in a game about back and forth plays the mentality that you need to ban strong cards instead of making other cards good/better is very ironic.

I didn't realize anyone had even responded to me but cool Also real quick Verte is better than Fusion Destiny because the likelihood of you having two monsters left to make verte is higher than the chance that you naturally drew fusion destiny Fusion Destiny costs less to activate but can also brick your hand with multiple copies. A card's versatility and accessibility is sometimes more important than its stated effects.

@@LilyApus To be fair there are lots of situations where the solution of "make stronger card" causes even more problems. We don't need a card that can out rhongo. That way you just end up creating cards that blanket out everything. Not that konami isn't already playing whack a mole with powercreep on bosses and outs, thats how we ended up with DRNM and Droplet.

There are much stronger turn 3 plays if you get to resolve nibiru and your opponent has an empty field It's basically impossible to lose if you do that anyway

Thanks for making it clear for the people who don't get it