I HATE PRIDE FLAGS (so I fixed them)  

Easy. F tier for all of them

Funny you should mention “turning all existing Pride Flags into a new design without thinking about the people who are happy with the flags they identify with, and the cultural impact they have had until now”, because that’s exactly what they did when they replaced the rainbow flag with the regressive “Progress” flag.

exactly

I for one would not like to use a flag created by an underwear fetishist who admits to have stolen her mother’s underwear, then escalating to random women’s at the laundromat. It’s also infantilizing that she chose baby pink and baby blue to stand for baby girls and baby boys. If lesbians can change a flag because of personal distaste for the creator, I can too.

The trans flag goes so hard I wanna use it but I feel like I shouldn't because I'm not trans 😔 changing it would be a sin.

@@oopsallchromosomes8994 I give you permission to use these flags as long as you pledge never to subject LGBT people to the Q-slur nonconsensually.

@@haleyhalcyon underwear fetishist? girl what are you talking about 😭😭😭😭

Look up “Monica Helms”. She’s the one who created the trans flag, and she also admits to stealing her mom’s underwear as a child and random people’s panties at the laundromat as an adult.

It's very extensively documented that the Q-slur is a slur, and continues to be for many. The activists of yesteryear specifically chose it for its offensive and provocative nature. Oft-overlooked, denying that the Q-slur is a slur is tantamount to denying the history of LGBT people before us and the oppression and hurt that they have surmounted to bring forth the rights and protection we enjoy today.

*Bisexual sub-labels:* The problem with those sub-labels is that they are born out of the biphobic assumption that “bisexuals only love binary gender”, which not only is inaccurate to how bisexuals are, but also denies the history or bisexual activism. “Pansexual” is at this point more often used than “bisexual”, and it’s like they think it’s a dirty word. Bi people already face so much erasure from non-LGBT people; I don’t want to encourage erasure from LGBT people too by legitimizing those labels. *color order:* The United States’ flag also has no color order and has a complicated design that isn’t all horizontal stripes. Yet there is no shortage of Stars and Stripes merch, like hats and cutlery and everything. “It’s harder to adapt to merchandise” is a moot point, and it just tells me that the flag is more creative and artistic than the horizontal stripe flags. *LGBT flag:* The LGBT flag is for lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, and trans people. The extra labels tacked on after the T have been campaigned for, often in very toxic ways, but it only server to make the campaign and mission of LGBT rights more scattered and defocused. Not every minority needs to be LGBT to be taken seriously. Not every label is about sexual orientation or gender identity. “Asexuality is a sexuality” like irreligiousness is a religion and celibacy is a sex position. There is no place on Earth where it is legal to be asexual, nor you are at a systemic disadvantage simply for being asexual (and not for being single for life). *nonbinary:* I find it much less “binary” to have a cut off-center, but it’s not really a cut if you look at the middle stripe that connects the two. *the Q-slur:* The Q-slur is an offensive and highly charged anti-gay slur. The loudest activists have rallied for “reclaiming” it, but they ignore or flat-out deny that it continues to be a slur that is used to hurt LGBT people to this day. I say f**k that. “Q***r” is also linked to a well-documented history of advocating for pedophilia. Q***r theory first broadened the idea of “q***r” away from just homosexual, to include any sexual behavior deemed socially unacceptable. Unfortunately, that was done in order to include pedophilia. Prominent q***r theorist authors such as Michel Foucault, Judith Butler, Pat Califia, and Gayle Rubin have all advocated for the rights of “boylovers” and/or the lowering or abolition of the age of consent. The Q-slur is so loaded with past and present baggage, that I believe the best course of action is to keep it taboo and forgotten, and turn it into a thing of the past, not keep the wounds open and freshly vinegared, as well as inject new political and exclusive connotations to it, further confusing the question of what “q***r” even means.

That's the intent. That is not the actual result. On the contrary, it's more racist to make people replace the rainbow flag with the additions, because it implies that those black LGBT people WEREN'T represented by the rainbow flag. You're saying that those weird black LGBT people aren't included by default, so you have to pander to them and add them in where they weren't before. In fact, adding the black stripe implies that black cishets belong in the LGBT community, which is a clearly ridiculous take. It's much more ridiculous with transgender people, who are represented by the T in LGBT already. Ever wonder why you've been seeing "#LGBdroptheTQ" way more in recent years? That's right, the "Progress" flag is driving this regression, because it expresses that the trans colors are butting into the rainbow where it didn't belong. Both of these prejudices are, of course, false; anyone who is gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender is included and represented by the rainbow flag. The "Progress" flag does not serve to promote unity, but only serves to cleave trans people and LGBT people fo color from their own flag.

@@haleyhalcyonrespectfully, please stop speaking for black people. I found this video from your Twitter, thought the overall idea was nice, then was disappointed by your constant need to speak for black people and how we feel. We don’t need others telling us how to feel about our culture, nor do we need non black LGBT telling us black LGBT how to feel about our oppression.

@@Mu-vm4ij I am not telling any minority how to feel. I am simply stating that singling them out only makes them MORE isolated and excluded, not less.

@@haleyhalcyon "Ever wonder why you've been seeing "#LGBdroptheTQ" way more in recent years? That's right, the "Progress" flag is driving this regression, because it expresses that the trans colors are butting into the rainbow where it didn't belong." The idea that the progress flag is the driving force behind the exclusion of trans people from the LGBT is a bad take. The driving force is not a flag, it's hatred and failure to understand that we're still worthy of love, dignity, and respect. The progress flag was designed that way to push back against the idea that we aren't part of the community, not a subtle way to create division in an attempt to eventually excise us from the community as a whole. (Also, IIRC the black stripe on the progress flag is also for those that died during the AIDS epidemic and those that still living with it and the social stigma of it today. A group of people that even within the community is oft forgotten and overlooked, case in point.) Quasar plays with the idea of a diverse community, and states that the fight for inclusivity needs to come from both within and outside the LGBTQ community - from all spheres of society: "This new design forces the viewer to reflect on their own feelings towards the original Pride flag and its meaning, as well as the differing opinions on who that flag really represents, while also bringing into clear focus the current needs within our community". -Daniel Quasar, designer of the progress flag I think that taking an explicit reiteration of a fact to push a point home as instead an admission (implied or otherwise) that certain groups weren't part of the community before, is a misstep. It was less a "THESE THINGS ARE CLEARLY SEPARATE AND FORCING THEIR WAY INTO THE GROUP" and more "There are serious problems facing these parts of our community today, from both within and without, that need a focused effort from the group as a whole if we're going to see everyone safe in being who they are, as openly as they want." All this to say, your interpretation isn't invalid, symbolism is by nature mutable and very much subject to the context in which it exists, but I think it might be running away with the plot a bit.

@@haleyhalcyon”I’m not telling them how to feel, I’m telling you how they DO feel according to me” Telling someone they’re excluded is contributing to the exclusion actually

Bc not everyone has to transition to be trans

There’s no real consensus on whether that’s the definition. Others have told me that “bisexual means just two genders, pansexual means all genders”, and “pansexuals are attracted to parts, not hearts” (which is just biphobic af tbh), and “bisexuals aren’t attracted to trans/nonbinary people, pansexuals are” (which is both biphobic and transphobic because it posits that trans people aren’t the gender that their gender identity says they are).

@@haleyhalcyon ah maybe I hadn’t really thought about pansexuals that way I guess about only being attracted to parts but that’s probably because I’m pan romantic I know I personally don’t really care about gender or like sexual stuff but that’s just me

Thank you! I briefly touched on the MOGAI cesspit at 3:24, and I doubt that I’ll do a “Jacksfilms’ Fix Your Flags Series” video on them, seeing as I think they’re pointless... But I’ll consider it.

@@haleyhalcyon If you really think about it, it is pretty pointless to try and fix a couple MOGAI flags, considering how many are pumped out by the numbers. XD

Damn y'all are sad

Both!

Nearly nonexistent in mainstream culture, really. Occasionally there’s discussion on Twitter about some bad stuff some politician said about LGBT people, but it doesn’t seem to be a big concern for most content creators or media owners.

I don’t plan to do a “Fix Your Flags” thing (at least not unironically). Do you not like the new bisexual flag?

@@haleyhalcyon I love your designs, they're very pleasing to the eyes

Just a bit of a heads up as someone thats part of the community and not a Loli defender like this person is, these flags are not it. They ignore the meaning and history the real flags have and don't look good. The flags are the way they are for a reason and they work, there was never a need for a redesign, especially one made by someone like this person.

“loli defender” Why yes, I defend an art form that has been legally ruled to not hurt anyone, what of it? 🙃

it's just a nice thing to have to show pride with your community.

just like country flags, pride flags are for people to show who they are

I’m genuinely confused about this. Living in North America, some people might use Queer as a slur but the majority of LGBT people are reclaiming it. Personally reclaiming a slur is more effective than trying to ban the use of it, because banning anything has never worked before in human history. I don’t understand why you and OP are so against reclaiming a slur. My understanding is you are not familiar with the concept

It's very extensively documented that the Q-slur is a slur, and continues to be today for many. The activists of yesteryear specifically chose it for its offensive and provocative nature. Oft-overlooked, denying that the Q-slur is a slur is tantamount to denying the history of LGBT people before us and the oppression and hurt that they have surmounted to bring forth the rights and protection we enjoy today. Nobody is entitled to decide that someone is q***r against their will.

@@yl6467 My experience is that I get called the Q slur in an offensive way whenever I choose to dress how I want or love who I love, in the same tone that people call me the F slur.

They defend loli. They are definitely not a person we want more off